Game Day B*tches 3: The perfect storm

Wanye
October 17 2008 01:29PM

Are the Gods of liquor poisoning kidding us? Back to back Fri-Sat night games against Calgary? Someone call the liver replacement clinic – we will need to book a 7 AM appointment on Monday morning.

There is only one thing we like better than hockey. Beer. Well hold up, include women in that. And automatic weapons. Yeah, that works. There are only three things we like better than hockey: beer, the ladies and automatic weapons. And 17th century harpsichord rhapsodies.

Back to back weekend games? This is big. Bigger than Hasselhoff in Germany big. Bigger than a Tupac "I'm not dead Tour" being announced. Bigger than ... well you get the picture.

Game time work

These Justice League Meetings on the Nation during the games are becoming a double edged sword. On the one hand we can’t leave OilersNation HQ and hit the streets of E-Town to interact with the party people during the game. On the other hand we can slam beers in our authentic 1991 Bill Ranford Jersey and scream at the top of our lungs at the powerplay without bothering the waitress.

Speaking of the waitress - we'd like to order a double head stomping of the Flames. And something with coconut on it. Thanks darlin'.

See you online at game time. What a weekend it is going to be.

- You can catch Wanye Gretz in your sister's room at exactly 1:15 AM tonight.

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#151 Lubo71
October 17 2008, 09:30PM
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Who picked these stars?? What the hell?

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#152 Travis Dakin
October 17 2008, 09:32PM
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Oh man I hope he isn't injured bad. I'm hearing knee?

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#153 Gord
October 17 2008, 09:36PM
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That's what Spector is reporting at the moment

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#154 Smokin' Ray Burnt
October 17 2008, 09:37PM
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Kings sign Matt Greene to a 5 year extension... as per Sportsnet ticker

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#155 Travis Dakin
October 17 2008, 09:38PM
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For the record I've been to 3 Oil games in Calgary Wanye and the are 2-1. I got tickets to the home and home at the end of the season. It's going to be huge.

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#156 The Towel Boy
October 17 2008, 09:46PM
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baaaaaaah

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#157 Wanye Gretz
October 17 2008, 09:47PM
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I'm trying to find out what has happened to Souray. I have only heard knee too.

If I am ever lucky enough to see a win in Calgary I will punch the oldest, frailest Flames fan I can find directly in the face as celebration

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#158 Wanye Gretz
October 17 2008, 09:51PM
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Everyone should read this article. We are working on a piece of our own on the topic but in the meantime:

http://coveredinoil.blogspot.com/2008/10/it-ends.html

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#159 Travis Dakin
October 17 2008, 09:52PM
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I was in right below the Sportcheck section when they won in a shootout a couple of years ago. My girlfriend and I in our Oiler jerseys in a sea of Angry red. Scariest moment of my life but We stayed strong. I had two half drank beers thrown at me. and lots of ice cubes. Ahh memories...

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#160 Lubo71
October 17 2008, 09:55PM
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Another fun chat.

See you next game!!

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#161 New GUy
October 17 2008, 09:56PM
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Yeah see you guys tomorrow!!!

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#162 Travis Dakin
October 17 2008, 09:59PM
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Wanye Gretz Says: October 17th, 2008 at 9:51 pm Everyone should read this article. We are working on a piece of our own on the topic but in the meantime:

http://coveredinoil.blogspot.com/2008/10/it-ends.html

Oh man that is really disheartening. Looking forward to your guys' take on it.

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#163 1011011
October 17 2008, 10:00PM
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That is another good win by the Oilers. They are still not firing on all cylinders, but wins are wins and going 3-0 to start may be of help in April

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#164 Smokin' Ray Burnt
October 17 2008, 10:07PM
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What a rat. Whatever... who needs a guy like that reporting on the Oilers.

I was going to write something dumb on his comments but I can't be bothered to get a google account.

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#165 Travis Dakin
October 17 2008, 10:09PM
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http://hot-oil.blogspot.com/2008/10/fuck-you-edmonton-oilers-organization.html

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#166 David S
October 17 2008, 10:16PM
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Rat? Dude.

Is Cal Nichols your dad or something?

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#167 Smokin' Ray Burnt
October 17 2008, 10:25PM
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Why would he point out Brownlee and Gregor?

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#168 David S
October 17 2008, 10:38PM
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READ HIS POST. All of it. Maybe twice.

Then respond.

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#169 Daniel
October 17 2008, 10:40PM
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^^ Because it's a really good point?

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#170 Smokin' Ray Burnt
October 17 2008, 10:42PM
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Did you read the line that says " (and, for my own interest, I got two concrete examples, including screen shots). I pointed this out to the PR guy in another e-mail,"

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#171 Smokin' Ray Burnt
October 17 2008, 10:44PM
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Take your own licks and don't bring other with you.

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#172 David S
October 17 2008, 11:05PM
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*sigh*

Dave was talking about two other reporters doing the same thing he was doing while also using their press passes - and pointed out the double standard to the goon by getting "...two concrete examples, including screen shots). I pointed this out to the PR guy in another e-mail,”

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#173 Daniel
October 17 2008, 11:06PM
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Come on Ray, you don't have a case here. They booted him for something other guys had been doing with impunity. They hadn't even made it known that they consider it verboten.

If just you were tossed from a game for cheering something they didn't like, wouldn't you want to point out that your whole section was shouting it?

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#174 Travis Dakin
October 17 2008, 11:09PM
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Either way, this is really disturbing.

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#175 Smokin' Ray Burnt
October 17 2008, 11:33PM
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Look. I am not here to argue. But sometimes life isn't fair. The system isn't fair. If life was like "well Johnny gets a lollipop, why don't I?". The world would be a great place. Yeah it sucks for the guy I get that. But oh well. You don't bring down your comrades in the process. It was wrong.

Besides... you can blog the game from home or pay for the 1/2 price single seats and use your blackberry and blog your butt off from your seat. They can't really do much then can they? That's all I am getting at.

The Oilers are a business. Last I checked blogs were for fun. They (the Oilers) don't make much, if anything, so what do they care. As a business owner myself I get it. There was no blogs not that long ago and the fan base did just fine.

At the end of the day I come here to be entertained.

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#176 Mike A
October 17 2008, 11:37PM
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Travis et al,

Disturbing???

Please. This is hilarious. My brother has been a reporter for over 15 years and he has had many run-ins with different PR guys in his time. Do they rap your knuckles from time-to-time, of course, but you have to have a thick skin.

I find it funny how a guy who writes nameless for years, and mocks players, their looks, families and the management with no recourse, finally gets challenged and he puts his tail between his legs and goes home. What a baby.

They said you could write again, and you quit. You are a soft skinned cry baby, who loves to dish it out to people and the first time some one gives it back you run away.

What's even more funny is that some of you think he is the victim. You all think the Oilers control the media because you would somehow write the truth. Give me a break. I wonder what Dave would do the minute he had to face a player or coach the next day after writing a scathing article. Clearly we know the answer. He would quit.

I'm sure there are some in the media that get influenced and there are many who don't.

I do know that reporters have to abide by a certain code of conduct. I wonder what Dave wrote in his blog. Was it filled with the usual cursing and such. If so, that wouldn't be allowed. I know you think that freedom of speech allows you to write what you want, but in a true PROFESSIONAL setting it doesn't work that way.

I can't comment on why Brownlee and Gregor can write, but I would guess they don't do live game blogs, and the fact they are accredited media. Brownlee writes for various outlets and Gregor has a show, which I'm sure they use the same stuff on. The difference seems obvious to me but maybe I'm wrong on this part.

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#177 David S
October 17 2008, 11:43PM
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"They (the Oilers) don’t make much, if anything, so what do they care."

I suspect this is going to be like arguing with a Jehovah's Witness, so I'm not going to say more than this.

Suffice it to say that you are grossly mistaken if you truly believe what you just wrote. Either that or you actually bought all that stuff the EIG has been spewing the last few years.

Lets just make the assumption that a guy like Darryl Katz doesn't buy losing propositions. You can figure out the rest by going through those bothersome blogs that didn't exist that long ago.

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#178 David S
October 17 2008, 11:51PM
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"I can’t comment on why Brownlee and Gregor can write, but I would guess they don’t do live game blogs..."

http://www.oilersnation.com/index2.php/2008/09/22/contest-plus-a-game-day-preview/

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#179 Doogie2K
October 18 2008, 01:38AM
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Never in my life have I seen a coach not deliver a speech in intermission. That ad is lame!

That ad is accurate. Sometimes you don't need to scream at the boys to make the point that they're playing like dog shit. Sometimes, they're perfectly good at feeling shame on their own.

Focus less on the Oilers Sportsnet. Geez

I saw this complaint elsewhere (LT's?) and I don't get it. For Flames home games, they use the Flames crew and have a Flames focus. For Oilers home games, it's the Oil crew and focus. Seems pretty obvious to me.

Did you giys hear the Oiler chant?

Sure did. Participated in one when I was at the preseason game. The Saddledome nosebleeds are both horrible and awesome.

I had two half drank beers thrown at me. and lots of ice cubes.

Shit, really? I've been to at least four Oilers games at the 'Dome in the last five years, and I've never had an issue.

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#180 Travis Dakin
October 18 2008, 02:19AM
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That was only at the one game and I was sitting in the Rowdy cheaper section. It was just a couple of guys I assume because the other two times I was in the Dome for an oil game were two of the best times I have ever had at a game. The fans there treated us great. When the Oilers lost we were teased pretty hard and when we won it was pretty fun to give it back. It's such a neat experience to be cheering for the visitors at a game and the flames fans were very great to us. That is why I am going back again for the home and home at the end of the season.

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#181 Big Bro
October 18 2008, 07:46AM
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Wanye, my little sis said you forgot your panties when you left last night. Where can I drop them off?

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#182 Mike A
October 18 2008, 09:43AM
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David,

That was a preseason game and Gregor stated he wouldn't do regular games. And if you notice, there was a professional tone to the the piece. Point is Dave whines when someone challenges him, clearly he isn't cut out to be a media guy.

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#183 David S
October 18 2008, 10:20AM
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Mike,

Fair enough then about Gregor. On another blog, I mentioned that I thought Dave quitting was the wrong thing to do do. You are also right in your assertion of "professionalism", although many of us might take that definition to be awfully close to censorship in this case.

Problem is, very rarely is there such a thing as access AND complete freedom of speech in pro sports. I think it must be a hard pill to swallow for independents and new-age bloggers who are used to saying whatever they want. You just know that more clashes of this type are inevitable going forward. However, it makes it a whole lot easier to suck up the abuse if you're getting a paycheque at the end of the day.

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#184 Doogie2K
October 18 2008, 11:20AM
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@Travis: Yeah, sounds like an isolated thing. I was in the nosebleeds for two of those four games, and it wasn't a problem.

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#185 Tikked
October 18 2008, 01:16PM
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I wonder who riled up the press guys. It must be someone who a.) knows a little about what goes on in the oilers blogs and b.) has a vested interest in no one -or no one else?- blogging on the oilers with an inside scoop.

Hmmm..., seems to me there are two prime candidates...

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#186 Antony Ta
October 18 2008, 02:36PM
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GOILERS!

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#187 RobinB
October 18 2008, 03:14PM
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Tikked: And who would that be? Got something to say, then say it.

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#188 charlie
October 18 2008, 03:25PM
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Happy 26th anniversary of the aquisition of Dr. Randy Gregg!!!

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#189 David S
October 18 2008, 04:25PM
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Tikked,

Lets be fair here. This has nothing to do with any "prime candidates". Despite what many might think, the Oilers are very aware of what goes down online. Not to mention that Dave tipped his hat in advance by saying he was going to live blog. No doubt he was being shadowed the moment he plugged in his 'puter in the PB.

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#190 N00b1anPr1n(355
October 18 2008, 04:49PM
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Yo motherF'n Wanye!!

Get off your ass and update this website; Im F'n Fiending for your S. Its BOA numero dos tonight and your probably drunk banging hookers. Im proud and devastated at the same time.

Your friend, n00BpR1n

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#191 wang
October 18 2008, 05:14PM
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i am offended with you wayner

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#192 Tikked
October 18 2008, 05:20PM
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David S:

Fair enough. But how do you know that the organization wasn't informed by someone? I mean, aren't you just guessing here? And even if the organaization knew what Dave was doing, why did they care, if it wasn't to protect more established media people like Robin and Jason?

Robin B:

Of course, I've heard of no evidence suggesting you're involved at all.

But do you support 'coveredinoil"? Or do you support the team media guys? I'm interested and I think everyone else is too. After all, the team has treated you with a different standard. Don't you feel like you should stand up for Dave, given that it's possible they were picking on him on your behalf?

Moreover, I would guess you know all of the parties involved. Who do you think is responsible? Or would you rather not say for fear of offending the team?

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#193 RobinB
October 18 2008, 05:44PM
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Tikked: So, after implying Gregor and I are petty enough to cause trouble for a blogger I'd never heard of before Friday by calling us the "two prime candidates" in riling up the press guys, you want to know what I think?

And do I think I should stand up for Dave, given it's possible they were "picking on him" on my behalf?

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#194 Jason Gregor
October 18 2008, 06:01PM
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Tikked,

Why I'm even responding to you boggles my mind. You don't post your real name so your opinion means absolutely nothing to me.

I have no idea who the guy was. He was actually sitting beside me and JJ asked me who he was and I said I have no idea. Then JJ proceded to introduce himself. I'm sure you can ask the guy and he will tell you. Why would I care who the guy is? It sounds like they had a run in and after it was all said and done he could have come back, but chose not to.

What is the story??? That he can't handle a bit of criticism? Well get used to it. It is my job to critique people so it would be pretty hypocritical if I couldn't take some here and there. Clearly he can't so what do you want me to do about it. IF he can't take criticism it is best he gets out now. No one really likes it, but if you give it out, you better be prepared to back up your beliefs or at least take the heat when it comes your way.

Why don't you ask the guy why he never said which outlet he was working for? Why would that have to be kept a secret? If he was a good employee I'm sure they would have went to bat for him don't you think??

I will say this, over the years I have had a few encounters with PR guys, because that is their job. I've had private meetings with them and even coaches. They have their stance I have mine. We agree to disagree and move on. I'm sure Robin and every other media guy in any city with a pro team has had the same encounter. That is part of the job. Nothing more nothing less.

If you think I actually worry about what a blogger writes you are kidding yourself. I respect their views, but I'm not that insecure to have to try to get them in trouble. Give me a break. Maybe you should learn how it works in an adult world Tikked.

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#195 Smokin' Ray Burnt
October 18 2008, 06:12PM
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Well said...

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#196 The Towel Boy
October 18 2008, 06:19PM
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Sure can't wait until the game starts.

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#197 Mike W
October 18 2008, 06:31PM
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"What is the story??? That he can’t handle a bit of criticism?"

No, the story is that they wanted to kick him out of the building for "abusing" his press pass the same way you guys have (using access for material on a separate blog). "Abusing" is obviously the Oilers' PR term.

Not that it's in any way laying blame on Oilers Nation or finger pointing at you and Brownlee at all, as I think it's absurdly paranoid of the Oilers.

If you read David's post, it's really more about how he's moving on from blogging, and not a rant, nor whining about not being able to take criticism.

Naturally, a lot of things get said in the comments, but not all are the views of Covered in Oil.

~Mike Winters

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#198 neil wang
October 18 2008, 06:43PM
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dear jason gregor,

you sound like a real pompous ass. get over yourself.

neil

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#199 Antony Ta
October 18 2008, 06:49PM
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RobinB:

I remember once that you said that once a team has a good PP they don't need a physical enforcer, and vice versa. Now that we have both a good PP and a physical enforcer... what do we need next on the team?

A faceoff taking 3rd line centerman? Or are we starting to feel good about keeping Pisani there?

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#200 RobinB
October 18 2008, 07:14PM
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Anthony: I think I'd wait more than three games to pass judgment on the PP, especially if you're contemplating making roster moves based on very limited results.

As for what's needed, it's my opinion the most pressing issue is to stop using three roster spots for goaltenders. Of course, changing that is easier said than done.

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