It began with hand bells

Wanye
December 17 2008 10:00AM

Q: What is the worst Oilers game you have ever seen live?

A: December 16, 2008 -- 9-2 vs the Hawks. And this is amazing remembering we had season tickets with Grandma Gretz during the dark years. The really truly dark years circa 1992-1998. In those days the Oil would get blown out most nights. But to be fair they sucked.

These Oilers? We don't even know what they are anymore. We even felt for MacT after the game. There isn't a bag skate hard enough to fix this squad. If you're him and you've walked around the dressing room screaming and yelling, you have punched every Oiler directly in the face (Garon twice) then what? It doesn't really matter how the Oil bounce back tonight against the Canucks. The Oil need a heart transplant, mass firings, mass hirings, every single player mentally reprogrammed, a new arena, a new coach, a new GM, new training staff and a mascot.

You know what we love?

Being point night for the friggin' Chicago Blackhawks. Not the Red Wings. The Blackhawks. Not a team like San Jose filled with wily veterans and big ol' goons. The Blackhawks -- a fellow squad also filled with punk assed 19-to-21 year olds. Thing is, the punks in Hawks jerseys were laughing and celebrating after every goal like it was a WHL intrasquad scrimmage, while our little friends in Copper and Blue were thinking only of getting in to Diesel Ultra Lounge later in the night. 

Well done Oilers you have truly embarrassed yourselves. And on Handbell Anthem Night to boot.

To be fair

To be fair the first seven goals were suspect. Really they could have gone either way. Right.

To be fair most fans really aren't that upset this morning. See everyone had cleared the hell out of Dodge as soon as the 50-50 was announced. Like seriously everyone. And the millions watching at home were probably long gone by the time the score was in the books too. Only the JL kept 'er goin all night long. Bless their hearts.

To be fair Liam Reddox had an assist. You'll forgive us if we wouldn't give two shits if Liam Reddox woke up this morning and decided to never play another game of hockey ever again. There is nothing more heart breaking than listening to the remaining 45 per cent of the RX1 crowd cheering their hearts out for the 9-2 goal.

Only bright spots

The pictures from the game last night are pouring in from Citizens of the Nation. Apparently there were some folks that managed to keep their eyes open and dinners in their stomachs long enough to send their ol' pal Wanye some great snaps. Keep them comin' to oilersnation@gmail.com. We will have some up later in the day.

The most interesting thing on the whole night was finding out a friend of our co-worker once hooked up with 50 Cent.  Something about living in Washington and something something 50 Cent met her and bingo bango. Normally we would lead with news of this magnitude but today, well we just don't have it in us.

There. You finally broke us Oilers. Thanks.

Game tonight.

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#51 Jonathan Willis
December 17 2008, 04:38PM
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@ Gord:

It's 33 million over 6 years. I can't remember how it breaks down, but the numbers you're quoting are wrong.

Also, I seem to recall that Jarret Stoll couldn't get it done with Hemsky and Penner, and Cole couldn't get it done with Horcoff and Hemsky, and Moreau couldn't get it done with Horcoff and Hemsky, so it's hardly automatic.

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#52 Cam
December 17 2008, 04:40PM
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Excuse the multiple posts, but I just gotta say it again.

Lines 2, 3, and 4 blow.

They just suck this year. It's gross. Is it any surprise that our PK is sucking too, since the specialists come from those three lines.

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#53 Jonathan Willis
December 17 2008, 04:43PM
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Gord wrote:

After Horc’s new contract kicks in, he makes $7M next season, $6.5M for the next 2 seasons and $6M for the final year - that averages out to a $6.5M cap hit by my math, but if I am wrong please explain why.

I see where the confusion lies - you're looking at NHL numbers.com, which doesn't show the last two years of his contract, which are worth a combined 7 million, for a 5.5M cap hit per season.

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#54 Jonathan Willis
December 17 2008, 04:43PM
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Try this link, Gord.

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#55 BUCK75
December 17 2008, 04:54PM
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Trevor Linden retirement night in Vancouver tonight...ceremony before the game, hopefully they come out on fire after the ceremony!

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2008/12/17/linden_ceremony_sportsnet/

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#56 Dennis
December 17 2008, 04:55PM
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Gregor or Brownlee:

Either of you guys want to dig and found out why we don't block shots anymore on the PK? Or why we stopped pressuring down-ice? Or why they keep employing the same stupid strategy every game?

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#57 OilFan in Calgary
December 17 2008, 06:21PM
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Why doesn't the Oilers' record on the home page update?

Also, other websites that show the Oilers' schedule have a adopted a neat colour coding feature that helps differentiate between home and away games - have you ever considered using this technology?

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#58 Gord
December 17 2008, 07:03PM
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JW - thanks - I was using this http://www.nhlnumbers.com/overview.php?team=EDM&season=0809

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#59 RobinB
December 17 2008, 07:30PM
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@ Cam:

Horcoff is a .9 player? You mean he's been a .9 player in two of his eight seasons, right? You're massaging the numbers big time.

00-01 16 in 49 .32 01-02 22 in 61 .36 02-03 33 in 78 .42 03-04 40 in 80 .50 05-06 73 in 79 .92 06-07 51 in 80 .63 07-08 50 in 53 .94 08-09 22 in 29 .73 career 307 in 509 .60

I've danced the polka twice, it doesn't make me a polka dancer. I've played darts twice. It doesn't make me a dart player. Horcoff is a handy, versatile player who has worked hard to accomplish what he has, but let's not toss out numbers that don't accurately reflect his offensive production.

What does .60 net you "all by it's lonesome?" You and anybody else who chooses to can justify his contract if you must, but it's an overpay that's going to get worse rather than better two years from now.

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#60 Cam
December 17 2008, 10:13PM
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@RobinB

Do you really think he will only get 0.6 PPG for the remainder of his contract? If so then of course he is an overpay.

I think he was given those kinds of bucks this summer because he is expected to be a 0.9+ PPG a season player, which he has done for two of the last three years. I expect that of him, and if he doesn't deliver then I will concede that it wasn't a bargain, but if he does deliver then I am sure you will be happy to eat your words. Unfortunately in five years we will both probably have forgotten them.

I should add that IMO any stat that includes pre-lockout Horcoff will not be a very good indicator of the Horcoff on the ice today. It is like watching a different player. It's only since he played in Europe that Horcoff really got his O-game.

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#61 RobinB
December 17 2008, 10:27PM
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@ Cam: Now, you're tap dancing. Like I said, the Oilers overpaid and it'll get worse as the deal goes along. And, no, I won't forget. I never do.

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#62 Jonathan Willis
December 17 2008, 11:12PM
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I don't think Horcoff's contract is a bargain, but I do think he would have got more money if he had hit unrestricted free agency.

Fun comparison: which long-term contract would have been worse at 5.5M/season for the Oilers - Smyth's or Horcoff's?

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#63 Cam
December 18 2008, 09:54AM
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If I am tap dancing it is only cause I need new hobbies since watching Oilers games lately has been hard on my spirit.

Seriously though RobinB, I was curious as to whether you really think Horc will be a 0.6 PPG player for the duration of this contract? Forget the overpayment underpayment since that is a more subjective conversation, but I would like to know where you think his PPG will end up at for the duration of the agreement.

JW... Horc or Smyth... I think my head is going to pop open like a big zit trying to answer that one. If both were guaranteed healthy I would probably pick Smyth, but I get the feeling Horcoff is going to age better than Smyth so he is probably the better choice.

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