Deep Thoughts V

Robin Brownlee
January 12 2009 11:33AM

In the real world and in real life, there are times when honesty is not always the best policy.

Like when your wife asks you, "Do these jeans make me look fat?" And you say, "No honey. Those jeans don't make you look fat. Your big ass makes you look fat."

Like when you're a hockey coach with absolutely no intention of giving a particular player a chance as long as you're calling the shots because you don't like the way he plays and you'd rather see him traded -- or just go away -- so you don't have to think about him any more.

And you say: "I guess every time we call somebody up, we've got to defend it, why it's not Robbie. I think the bottom line is it's up to Robbie to be a decent player down there.

"We all know what he can do. He's got decent hands. He can work a power play OK. But he's slow. He's not a physical player. He's soft at this level. There are a lot of things in the game he needs to address to be that guy who gets called up. It's getting to the point where, I've got to be honest, he's not helping them, particularly, down there right now. There's no reason to think he's going to come up here and help us, given those circumstances."

The truth hurts

As everybody has heard by now, so said Oilers coach Craig MacTavish about Rob Schremp Sunday when Chris Cuthbert of TSN asked why Ryan Potulny and not Schremp had been promoted from Springfield of the AHL.

Now, contrary to what some fervent backers of Captain America believe, I can't say with a straight face that much of what MacTavish said isn't true. It is true of course, but that, like telling your better half she has a bum as big as bus, probably isn't very smart.

It's abundantly clear, if it wasn't before, that no matter what Schremp does, he's not going to make it with the Oilers while MacTavish is the coach. Not his kind of player. Not his kind of personality. We get it.

But instead of pointing out Schremp's flaws publicly and diminishing what little value he has as an asset, MacTavish should have played it smart and fibbed a little bit.

"Robbie's made a lot of progress and we liked what we saw when he was up here in December, but we're a little bit small up front right now, so we'd like to add a bit more size. Besides, Potulny has done everything we've asked of him and he's earned a look-see."

How difficult would that have been? MacTavish is a sharp guy and he usually plays it smart. For whatever reason -- maybe he's feeling the heat of what's been a disappointing first half -- he played this one like a, well, big ass.

Are we there yet?

As always in any edition of DT, some random thoughts and questions rattling around that spacious cranium of mine:

  • Did Gilbert Brule show enough in Sunday's 2-1 win over St. Louis to start in Washington Tuesday with somebody other than Kyle Brodziak and Steve MacIntyre? Of course he did. Fact is, MacTavish should end his infatuation with Liam Reddox and start Brule alongside Shawn Horcoff and Dustin Penner for as long as Ales Hemsky is out. ??The Oilers have eight games to make a definitive call on Brule. Once he hit’s the 160-game mark in the NHL, he needs waivers to be demoted or recalled.
  • Pucker up all of you whose lips were stained with copper-coloured Kool-Aid during the pre-season. At 20-18-3 for 43 points at the halfway mark of the schedule, you can kiss a Northwest Division title goodbye.
  • Nice home record, fellas. The Oilers are 9-8-3 at home and 11-10-0 on the road through 41 games. After surviving a brutal road schedule, they've piddled away too many points at Rexall Place. Now, they've got 20 games on the road and 21 at home in the second half.

And...

  • Schremp has "decent hands" and can work a power play "OK?" Schremp has amazing hands. What grates me about what MacTavish said isn't that he showed up Schremp by pointing out his weaknesses, he also downplayed his strengths.?? Would MacTavish ever dissect the shortcomings of, say, Ethan Moreau, Steve Staios or Sheldon Souray in the same fashion? Uh, no.
  • With Jeff Deslauriers due back from his "We-can't-make-up-our-minds-on-which-two-goaltenders-we-want-to-keep stint in Springfield, can we expect GM Steve Tambellini to make a move this week?
  • Does my mug shot make me look pissed off and balding?

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#1 baggedmilk
January 12 2009, 11:46AM
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Robin, I'm starting to get a man crush on you for these Deep Thoughts articles. Bang on, sir.

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#2 J-Bird
January 12 2009, 11:47AM
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First things first obviously. That mug shot does make one look like a grump!

As for the Oilers, has this not been the same for far too long already? I really don't get calling out a minor league playing Schremp in the NHL media? I mean get mad at the media for asking the question all the time, but what has Schremp done to diserve a tongue lashing like that? Pretty un professional at best, and does a wonderful job devalueing an asset at worst. Which is exactly what Mac did here.

I just bothers me that guys like Schremp are held accountable for his actions, and guys like Mac aren't. Guys like Lowe aren't. Guys like Moreau, Staois, Horcoff aren't. Schremp may or may not be an NHLer someday, but to take verbal jabs at a guy not even on your roster is pretty bush league.

They "work hard" I guess? Block shots. Stuff like that. Results be damned.

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#3 Darcy
January 12 2009, 12:00PM
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Good stuff Robin, but I disagree with you need to see Brule with 10 & 27.

MacTavish started 67 with those two against the Sharks and he didn't look good there because those are the toughest minutes on team.

10 & 27 are going to play against Ovechkin. 10 can't do all the backchecking himself, so 85 needs to be on that line in order to not to get bulldozered by Ovechkin's line.

Would love to see 67 play with 13 & 78, but that involves moving Captain useless to the 4th line, and that ain't happening.

This isn't training cap, MacTavish is trying (in his own, oh so unique way) to win games, and that doesn't include 67 playing the hardest minutes on the team.

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#4 smytty777
January 12 2009, 12:07PM
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It seems odd to me that a coach that is obviously struggling and does not appear to be doing much to help the Oilers win would criticize anyone else for doing the exact same thing.

@MacT

“We all know what he can do. He’s got decent hair. He can work a media conference OK. But his team is underperforming. He’s not supportive of his players. He’s outcoached at this level. There are a lot of things in the game he needs to address to be that guy who gets a Jack Adams. It’s getting to the point where, I’ve got to be honest, he’s not helping the Oilers, particularly, in making the playoffs right now. There’s no reason to think he’s going to help us win a Cup, given those circumstances.”

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#5 baggedmilk
January 12 2009, 12:09PM
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smytty777 wrote:

“We all know what he can do. He’s got decent hair. He can work a media conference OK. But his team is underperforming. He’s not supportive of his players. He’s outcoached at this level. There are a lot of things in the game he needs to address to be that guy who gets a Jack Adams. It’s getting to the point where, I’ve got to be honest, he’s not helping the Oilers, particularly, in making the playoffs right now. There’s no reason to think he’s going to help us win a Cup, given those circumstances.”

ahahah CLASSIC!

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#6 Steele
January 12 2009, 12:27PM
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Dear Brownlee,

Your mugshot: Yeah, you do look pissed, Dude. Balding? That was a joke, right?

McTavish: Although I see your point that McTavish should have "white lied with marketing sensibilities," I sure do like his candor. Here in America, hardly anyone is a "straight shooter." They all talk around issues, tell you they will send you an e-amil about "that" and never do, all the passive agressive poor communication crud that tows the company line without comitting. Mac T may be on the Hot Seat, but he's no B.S. & I like it.

May get himself fired for it, but I like it.

~Steele

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#7 Soup
January 12 2009, 12:33PM
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Funny. When I played hockey a million years ago, the third line was the one a coach trotted out against the other team's first line. Third line was the checking line (first line was top offense, second was half a step back, third checking and fourth for piss and vinegar). When did that change? Everytime I hear about Toby Reddox on the 'first line' because they play the hardest minutes against other team's top lines, what that tells me is that the first line is really the third line - which actually explains the Oil pretty well. One really good third line, 3 4th lines.

I'm certainly no expert - just a fan. I'd sure like to watch a team that puts its talents together and lets them fly. Take the offense rather than slowing up each line so they are defensively responsible. Remember when the Oil used to win games 7 - 6? Even loose 6 - 7? Wasn't that fun way back then? I mean, does everyone have to wear #14 to play on this team?

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#8 Chris
January 12 2009, 12:36PM
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Steele wrote:

May get himself fired for it, but I like it

I'd like it if he gets himself fired for it.

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#9 baggedmilk
January 12 2009, 12:38PM
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Did anyone read Gene Principe's worthless crap blog on Sportsnet? You would think that the Oilers are signing his cheques rather than Sportsnet.

@ RobinB:

Would it be completely inappropriate to tell your fellow media personalities to stop acting like complete pussies? Is it not their job to question the coach when he makes a poor decision rather than offering to shovel is drive way and tickle his love nuggets?

Brownlee, I want to hear your voice in the next scrum asking a question to MacFail exactly as you put them on this website. Thank God you actually have an opinion that coincides with the fan base that actually knows something about hockey.

Good Lord, all this agreeing with Brownlee is starting to make me feel dirty.

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#10 Rick
January 12 2009, 12:41PM
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Regarding MacT's comments, if they are accurate than I am fine with it. I would rather hear what they actually think rather than continually get fed the company line. That seems to happen way to often as it is.

As for the goaltending, why didn't Tambellini unload Garon to Vancouver when they were looking and ended up with Labarbera?

If the three goalie situation is as bad as they suggest it is then surely such a deal would outway dealing with a division rival and low return.

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#11 Rob
January 12 2009, 12:56PM
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If I were Tambellini I wouldn't appreciate that a desperate and panicky head coach just depreciated a team asset to the point of being almost worthless in terms of trade return.

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#12 CurtisS
January 12 2009, 12:57PM
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Well Brule will not get a chance on the first line.

After I heard Macdumb say

"If Reddox's last name was Brule everyone would be excited about him"

If that doesnt make it clear that Macdumb loves Reddox and Reddox is staying the whole year nothing else does.

Anyways, great read. I sure wish some media members would ask Mact some tougher questions.

This team is nothing about lies, lies and lies. Like: We are sending down JDD for 2 weeks so we can clear a spot for him when he comes back up. Lie

This team will contend for the NW title this year. Lie

Im going to stop there because im getting to mad typing.

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#13 Darcy
January 12 2009, 12:57PM
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@ Soup:

"what that tells me is that the first line is really the third line - which actually explains the Oil pretty well. One really good third line, 3 4th lines. "

Pretty much until the kids get another year or two under their belt and Hemsky comes back.

Thanks to Mr. Lowe.

Mr. Lowe made a great trade for Vishnosky, he just forgot to replace the 3rd line center, and MacTavish if forced to play 10 in the tough minutes.

I'm not a MacTavish fan, but this is what he has to work with. Why do you think he tried to make 34 his 3rd line center? Because he doesn't have a 3rd line shutdown center and doesn't want to have to burn 10,27,83 on the toughest minutes.......but he has too.

Along this line...why doesn't MacTavish play 51 as his 3rd line center?

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#14 Maverick
January 12 2009, 01:11PM
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MacT is a complete idiot and how he has been the coach of the ever changing roster of crap is beyond me.

Anyone notice that until last night the Oilers were the only team in the WC that were not over 500 at home.

Didn’t MacT say at one point that once they were back on home ice things would change?

Didn’t MacT say this was the most talented team he’s ever coached? Oh yes and what did you do with that talent MacT? Oh of course turn it into lack of.

KATZ step up, did you really spend 200,000,000.00 to watch this crap? I thought you were a “fan”, but maybe you’re just part of the club now.

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#15 Jack Bauer
January 12 2009, 01:18PM
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@ baggedmilk:

I thought Gene's blog was on the money. Poultony has earned this shot by playing exceptionally well on an absolute garbage AHL team.

Maccrappish is an idiot. Although I appreciate his candor, I dont appreciate the constant burying of his own team.

What I read into that though is a guy who is not in any danger of losing his job. Not to mention Craig Simpon and Louie Deb. have both said hes safe, Maccrappish isnt going anywhere. Were not going to make the playoffs this year, and next year we will go through this all over again.

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#16 BUCK75
January 12 2009, 01:29PM
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MacT isn't going to get fired, but quit. He is starting to remind me of DUBYA (thank-you for pointing out the obvious Wanye), regretfull but unappologetic.

I really wish he would get fired, but I just can't see it happening.

The people steering this ship have to stop trying to be good enough to make it into the play-offs. We have Hemsky & Souray for a few more years. Develop & make a run next year or 2 years. I have been watching the same $hit for 10+ years, even the year I spent thousands of dollars chasing this team to Carolina. If the players that are here don't have what it takes, find some or make some that do...

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#17 karim
January 12 2009, 01:30PM
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MacT is so frustrated that he is trying to get fired...and even this won't get him fired!

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#18 RobinB
January 12 2009, 01:39PM
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@ baggedmilk: Gene is paid to package and sell Oilers hockey on Sportnet. Same with Kevin Quinn and Louie DeBrusk. Same with the radio rightsholders.

While it's good fun to poke at them as butt-kissers and fartcatchers, and that happens a lot, they aren't putting themselves out there as critical voices or objective journalists. It's not their gig. It's not realistic, if you know how it works and the pecking order involved, to expect them to lead the critical charge.

Fans are, however, supposed to get the straight goods on things from the beat writers at the newspapers -- Ireland and Matheson at the Journal and Tychkowski and VanDiest at The Sun.

The voice I trust the most is Dan Barnes at the Journal. The columnists can wade in and let it fly, if they choose, even more so than the beat guys because opinion is their business and there's not the same "familiarity" involved.

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#19 Jack Bauer
January 12 2009, 01:42PM
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Robin what paper do you work for?

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#20 Eric V.
January 12 2009, 01:48PM
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@ RobinB :

Hi Robin

I normally don't write in but I read this site every day.

The only people I now trust to deliver anything resembling the truth is the folks writing on this website (except wanye ha ha)

seriously the only place I am seeing that is even bothering to write anything against the status quo.

keep it up Robin and Gregor!! If i only had the papers and TV i would have stopped paying attention a long time ago.

Oilernation forever!!

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#21 RobinB
January 12 2009, 01:50PM
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@ Jack Bauer:

Since making the brutal decision to leave the Journal after 11 years to go to The Sun for six years until January 2007, I'm not a staffer with any paper.

I freelance for Canadian Press, which means my stuff appears in newspapers and websites across the country -- Globe and Mail, TSN, NHL.com etc -- and for Metro Edmonton, the new daily with the little green boxes you see around town.

And I am Sam's dad.

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#22 Zamboni Driver
January 12 2009, 01:53PM
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A) Where IS Barnes in all this anyway? Hell, Macocia already hates him, so what's the difference in MacTavish and Lowe do too? He's a columnist anyway, so doesn't really need to get into the locker room like JoJo gets to.

B) MacTavish AGAIN going to the media to air dirty laundry is yet more evidence that this is the dumbest team in the NHL. Dumb as in not intelligent.

Players (can't figure that winning games THROUGHOUT the year is the same as busting balls to maybe squeak into the playoffs); Coaches (MacTavish obviously, Huddy and Buchberger who just look happy to have jobs...and should be - and Moores who you gotta know is responsible for keeping the coffee hot); and Management - who overpay 'good guys' to the point where they can't be moved. Ever.

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#23 CurtisS
January 12 2009, 01:56PM
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So Robin.......When does Katz step in? You did suggest in your last DT blog that he might after the home games were played and if there was no improvment.

Not till the end of the season I can guess. I understand that. Just wanted to see what you know.

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#24 baggedmilk
January 12 2009, 01:57PM
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@ RobinB:

Good answer, Robin. I should have known better than to expect anything resembling unbiased journalism from Gene Principe. How that guy even got THAT gig is unfathomable to me. He's not funny and he can't write worth two shits.

Not to pump your tires too much, Brownlee, but you should be writing the beat any day over Tychkowski. He's terrible. Doesn't proof read, reports that wrong players are playing. Reading his articles makes me feel like Hemmingway.

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#25 Deep Oil
January 12 2009, 01:58PM
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Jack Bauer wrote:

Robin what paper do you work for?

Robin has credentials for Canadian Press - I believe - I could be wrong - Allan Watt is not a fan of bloggers and Oiler Nation (Gregor misbehaving) - have to protect the intellectual property at all CORUS $$$ costs....... heat was on Stauffer from a caller after post game on Friday - calling him out that he was the MOST CRITICAL of MacT in the past two years and no he awfully quiet since his paycheques come from the team - Stauffer then replied that was still stating the players have to improve, coaches have to improve, trainers? have to improve, and that he was saying the same message with different words since he was employed by the club. Speaking of holding back your words - MACT's minor brain fart on a minor player speaks loudly to future RFA's that consider all items of professional treatment / handling when it comes to hearing the truth - sometimes you can say these things - but behind closed doors or off the record to your media serfs. I would be very depressed if I was MacT right now - not fearing for my job, just my sanity as the performance of the team, as a team is showing the cracks as the veterans vs sophmores is leaking out onto the Team 1260 little by little. Here is some discussion showing that all is not well in Oilerland - on the fan 590 hockeycentral - 18 minute mark http://www.fan590.com/onair/hockeycentral/media.jsp?content=20090112_132124_38332

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#26 Travis Dakin
January 12 2009, 02:01PM
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Here - we - go

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#27 JMann
January 12 2009, 02:02PM
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Robin

I would rather he speak the truth than, as you would say, "fib" just a little. He expressed a candid appraisal of Schremp after being asked the same question repeatedly when there is a call up. Frustration at the question and he finally tells it like it is. What is wrong with that? As far a devaluing an asset, how much lower did Schremp drop? If other teams have an interest in Schremp, you would think they already know what Schremp can and cannot do and are interested in him for other reasons, despite MacT's assessment.

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#28 RobinB
January 12 2009, 02:08PM
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This is like Groundhog Day . . . For me, the halfway mark of the season has always signalled the time when teams have had plenty of time to assess their situations. It follows, then, that the possiblity for trades opens up once everybody knows what they need.

As far as Katz "stepping in," it's more a case of GM Steve Tambellini making the moves he deems necessary. What happens now is a hockey operations situation, not a case of the boss kicking the furniture around in Kevin Lowe's office and demanding that "something" be done.

I don't see a coaching change until the end of the season and until Tambellini makes a trade or two to get everybody's attention. Let's not forget, the Oilers weren't going anywhere fast in 2006 until they got Roloson and Samsonov at the trade deadline. Not saying this team can do that, but they'll be close enough to a playoff spot the rest of the way that making the right player move could bump them into the top eight.

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#29 Rick
January 12 2009, 02:08PM
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Deep Oil wrote:

Jack Bauer wrote: .... as a team is showing the cracks as the veterans vs sophmores is leaking out onto the Team 1260 little by little. Here is some discussion showing that all is not well in Oilerland - on the fan 590 hockeycentral - 18 minute mark http://www.fan590.com/onair/hockeycentral/media.jsp?content=20090112_132124_38332

I was wondering about this possible divide in the room. Last week someone seemed to touch on it which left me with the impression that there was a rift between the vets and the kids where the kids seemed to be feeling a little to important in teh pecking order and yet after reading Gagner's quotes in the paper today I got the sense that this isn't the case at all and that the vets were encouraging the kids to take a bigger role in the room.

Can anyone summarize what is said on the Fan590 link. The problem with goofing off at work is that it is tough to listen to those kinds of links.

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#30 Travis Dakin
January 12 2009, 02:10PM
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RobinB wrote:

Let’s not forget, the Oilers weren’t going anywhere fast in 2006 until they got Roloson and Samsonov at the trade deadline

And Spacek. Him an CFP were money together.

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#31 RobinB
January 12 2009, 02:18PM
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@ baggedmilk: Thanks for the kind words. Until 2007, I was writing the beat with Tychkowski at The Sun as the senior hockey writer.

Originally, I was at the Journal writing the beat with Jim Matheson. In 2000, the Sun was pushing hard to compete and improve its hockey coverage, so they approached both Matty and I to see if we were interested in crossing the street. I went.

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#32 Little Fury
January 12 2009, 02:21PM
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But instead of pointing out Schremp’s flaws publicly and diminishing what little value he has as an asset, MacTavish should have played it smart and fibbed a little bit.

Sounds like he's as sick of the Schremp Army as the rest of us. As for devaluing Schremp as an asset: onoz. WThe return on Robbie just dropped from a fifth rounder to a seventh.

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#33 RobinB
January 12 2009, 02:22PM
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Travis Dakin wrote:

RobinB wrote: Let’s not forget, the Oilers weren’t going anywhere fast in 2006 until they got Roloson and Samsonov at the trade deadline And Spacek. Him an CFP were money together.

They got Spacek and Tarnstrom in January. They weren't deadline acquisitions.

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#34 Travis Dakin
January 12 2009, 02:23PM
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@ RobinB:

Shut your mouth with your knowledge. Semantics! haha

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#35 RobinB
January 12 2009, 02:24PM
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@ Little Fury: So, what's your point? Better to get a seventh-rounder than a fifth?

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#36 Dropping Deuces
January 12 2009, 02:25PM
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The picture doesn't make you look grumpy, it makes you look like count Dracula, all you need is the cape.

Does anyone remember 2002-03 when the Oilers had a young prospect MacT didn't really care for. He played him sparingly and in the press box quite often. MacT claimed he needed to be more physical and defensively responsible. That player was Ales Hemsky. He developed despite Mactarded not because of him. MacT would be a great coach for the 2003-04 Maple Leafs. All veterans who can plumb.

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#37 Travis Dakin
January 12 2009, 02:27PM
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RobinB wrote:

They got Spacek and Tarnstrom in January. They weren’t deadline acquisitions.

I really hope they don't wait util the deadline to do deals like that again. They only got in because Vancouver s*it the bed. I'm sick of the stress on my soul. You're absolutely right in terms of timing. They know what they need now, hell everyone on the hockey world knows what the need (it's called heart). Now is the time to get it. Move some of these so called assets. Shake up that room.

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#38 Deep Oil
January 12 2009, 02:30PM
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CurtisS wrote:

So Robin…….When does Katz step in? You did suggest in your last DT blog that he might after the home games were played and if there was no improvment. Not till the end of the season I can guess. I understand that. Just wanted to see what you know.

Katz will not step in (not his style or mantra) do not upset Rexall head office in NJ-NY.... - he may send in his father Barry with permission from the "Rexall Family Board" to make some changes - DK is always unavailable - while away on a rented yacht and his timeshare jet shared with other Edmonton elite good guy(RG)from PCL. Bottom line - Katz dropped $200mm on this team and does not have his own guy watching the cookie jar on the business side (Laforge-Nicholls still there) and is still a fan loving the boys on the bus a few decades ago - letting KLOWE have a Sather like dictatorship with no accountability in terms of drunken sailor signing syndrome (DSSS) for Horcoff, Penner, Nillson, 3 headed goalie and so on.... whats changed - we are still a dollar short when it comes to the playoffs - only the Oiler heart is really missing right now - someone needs to start taking names and kicking ass - on and off the ice - this new owner is very REMOVED philosophically from the team and may show up for press conferences via still photo and satelite audio feed - creepy - how many public appearances has Katz made this year - if any..... but as devil's advocate you can run some businesses with a phone, blackberry, and a credit card from Palm Springs or Vancouver condo - we all know that in Oilers past Barry Fraser was scouting for the oilers via television in Mexico - and missed drafting Scot Gomez but then Scotty was in Alaska and only from Mexican background - Slats also had some mystery person on payroll pulling down interesting consulting fees out of Banff - that no one had a clue on what relevancy it had to scouting as well - have times changed - maybe - have the results - NO - still mediocre - just that KLOWE is playing on equal footing now - no more $80mm leafs or rangers payroll.

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#39 Dana @ AgileStyle
January 12 2009, 02:32PM
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@ Deep Oil: It is a great gimmick you have going on there

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#40 Jack Bauer
January 12 2009, 02:35PM
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Wasnt Henrik Zetterberg a 5th rounder?

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#41 Deep Oil
January 12 2009, 02:35PM
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@ Rick: This link at the 18 minute mark was media observation about MACT making negative but possibly true comments Re: Schremp

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#42 RobinB
January 12 2009, 02:36PM
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@ Deep Oil: That's essentially what I said, without your flare for punctuation and getting sidetracked, in comment 28.

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#43 Travis Dakin
January 12 2009, 02:36PM
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@ Dana @ AgileStyle:

Don't encourage. ha

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#44 Jack Bauer
January 12 2009, 02:36PM
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NO i stand corrected, he was a 7th round pick ahaha

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#45 Deep Oil
January 12 2009, 02:37PM
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Dana @ AgileStyle wrote:

@ Deep Oil: It is a great gimmick you have going on there

Gimmick - ????

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#46 Travis Dakin
January 12 2009, 02:39PM
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crazy is not a gimmick... it's a condition

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#47 Colin
January 12 2009, 02:39PM
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Wouldn't it be better if they fired MacT now and hired a new coach now, so they had some extra time to get used to the new coach's systems(since it's not MacT I'll assume he has a system) before next season(when they might actually have a shot).

@ Robin: I see a lot of names thrown around as possible coaching candidates for our (hopefully) vacancy, but a name I rarely see mentioned is Rob Daum. He seemed to do a pretty good job last year,can clearly coach youngsters and knows how to win. Do you think he would have a shot at the job or not and what would your position on him being the head coach be?

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#48 Deep Oil
January 12 2009, 02:40PM
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@ RobinB: so we are on the same page - hmmmm what is your email address so I can let you in on some off the record rumors

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#49 Deep Oil
January 12 2009, 02:41PM
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Travis Dakin wrote:

crazy is not a gimmick… it’s a condition

just because your paranoid doesn't mean their not after you...

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#50 Travis Dakin
January 12 2009, 02:42PM
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Deep Oil wrote:

@ RobinB: so we are on the same page - hmmmm what is your email address so I can let you in on some off the record rumors

No secrets here bro. I took the red pill remember? Enlighten us all some more. Seriously.

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