GDB 45: Vincent Lecavalier
Jonathan Willis
January 18 2009 01:04PM
As we wait for the game against the Coyotes to begin, let’s consider two players over the past two seasons. Both are gritty, have good size, and are well-known and often mentioned as Top-10 players. Here are the numbers:
Player A
2008-09: 45GP – 28G – 21A – 59 PTS, +10
2007-08: 82GP – 40G – 66A – 106 PTS, -8
2006-07: 82GP – 56G – 54A – 100 PTS, +23
Player B
2008-09: 45GP – 15G – 22A – 37 PTS, +4
2007-08: 82GP – 41G – 44A – 85 PTS, -23
2006-07: 82GP – 49G – 57A – 106 PTS, -11
Player A is clearly superior to Player B. Outside of a slight difference in one season, he’s been a far better offensive performer, and his +/- totals are well ahead of Player B. Yet everybody, bizarrely enough, thinks that these two players are identical in ability, despite the fact that the statistics don’t support it at all.
The reason that everybody regards these two players as identical talents is because they are one player. Player A is Vincent Lecavalier, specifically his point totals against his own division, pro-rated over full seasons. Player B is Vincent Lecavalier against the rest of the NHL, pro-rated over an entire season.
I haven’t gotten into the effect of the various divisions on player performance, but it is something that we as Oilers fans should be wise to. We’ve seen the effect on Erik Cole, and it isn’t an illusion. The Southeast is the worst division in the NHL, by far, and it isn’t surprising that some of the league’s top goal- and point- scorers can be found there. It’s something that GM’s should keep in mind before making trades, at any rate.
It's something Oilers fans should keep in the back of their mind as they watch their team play the Coyotes and fantasize about what a new addition to the lineup could do to help the cause.
Glenn Anderson is watching the game in his PJ's. Thats old school.
Travis Dakin wrote:
Do go on....
Hockey Gods wrote:
Good call
Wanye Gretz wrote:
If your hair is that far gone then the plugs will never cut it. He should have let it be. It's so sad.
deep oil wrote:
Seems fair - he is the only one with any real sizzle in the Desert these days. He is more valuable to the franchise than any of the players - that's for sure.
deep oil wrote:
Provide a link, or some sort of proof of this...
Wanye Gretz wrote:
i used dr. vance macdonlad for $8k per session double transfer - located in sherwood park - saved me from looking like brown - a plan like quikcard (lyle best chair) can get back 60% after taxes
I was really smart and didn't buy the PPV until 650 so I missed the ceremony....
Wanye Gretz wrote:
Unless I missed something between the 89 page refreshes a day, I believe there is a missing part to a four part story no?
Wanye Gretz wrote:
The Oilers web site said 7! Dammit I missed it to.
Penner is on 2 lines
Speaking of missing parts, where is the JSBM Sunday RSB. Last time they missed one they said it woldn't happen again.
Travis Dakin wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAH I just literally asked myself 10 seconds ago "Did I ever finish that piece?"
When I wrote this on Oct 22 I didn't know the Coyotes were in trouble. I looked at NHL owners and picked the guy I thought most likely to have issues. Sorry Jerry for the Wanye Jinx.
If Swift Transportation — the largest trucking company in the US—goes into the toilet, the Coyotes could go 82–0 and the owner Jerry Moyes would have bigger problems that would affect the Coyotes ability to make payroll.
R-DAWG wrote:
lose 7 pounds a week with no carbs - apples chicken fish water, b6 and b12 with vegatable thins - otherwise called bernstein - dont pay just avoid bread, booze, milk and anything else that tastes sinful - really - I was 206 and dropped to 175 in 3 weeks
Oops it was from here:
http://www.oilersnation.com/2008/10/financial-analysis-and-rick-ross/
"How you like me now Garon Fans?" - Dwayne Roloson right now
@ Wanye Gretz:
Ha yeah I didn't want to say anything but I have been waiting patiently and I did find it quite interesting.
Wanye Gretz wrote:
My GF's favorite player was Garon.
My kid wanted a Garon jersey for Xmas. Good thing Santa gave him that lump of coal
Travis Dakin wrote:
To be totally honest my day job is becoming infinitely more complex because of the economy and most of my days are still spent trying to make sense the economic landscape. When I come on to the nation I want to get away from all that. Covering such an inspirational and positive Oilers season wisks me away to a land
OF EVEN MORE DOOM AND GLOOM
*single tear rolls down cheek*
Hockey Gods wrote:
look above idiot - http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/Page/document/v5/content/subscribe?user_URL=http://www.theglobeandmail.com%2Fservlet%2Fstory%2FLAC.20090109.COYTOTES09%2FTPStory%2FTPSports%2F&ord=83198050&brand=theglobeandmail&force_login=true
lets have a countdown to the next 4 teams to move or go bankrupt and the hanging of GB by the owners with JIM B from hamilton saving the league
Dropping Deuces wrote:
Excellent move. Santa also saw fit to deliver loss after loss Chez Oilers during the holiday season which was nice.
Great
Travis Dakin wrote:
Well as a true Oiler fan you now have no choice. Trade her for a late round pick (That means post last call pick up on a bar star) a prospect (Jouniro High Graduate) and veteran back up (Wiley old cougar who is well aware you are in a relationship)
It's fate man.
@ Wanye Gretz:
I will accept that
Hockey Gods wrote:
She read that and said it was a good deal!
wayne overland mentioned this months ago on total sports - i have not been to scottsdale lately so my pipeline is dry - but i have seen (like I can let that be on here. Come on - WG)
That trade would be harder to make than Reddox for Lecavallier.
POULIOT!!!
wooooo!
I mean YAY
YAY Moreau!!!!!!
@ Travis Dakin: Really, she sounds like a cool chick. Turns out I have pick, prospect and back up I would be willing to move. You interested in making a deal TD?
WOOO!, That will buy him 2 undisaplined penaltys later.
HA no its good.
Great, they day a bunch of us question Moreau role on this team, not 100 comments north, the prick goes and opens the scoring.
Hockey Gods wrote:
He would be the best player on the ice so far
WELCOME BACK HEMSKY
I like the #9 on the right chest
I just made a serious mess.
deep oil wrote:
I can tell you that on the list of food and beverage and what not that the Coyotes demanded on their charter flight between Calgary and Edmonton that (Gentlemen - please. Not Gretzky. I won't have him beesmirched. Anyone else is fair game but not 99. - WG)
Ales Hemsky came back, and I, JIZZED, IN MY PANTS!
Penner was seriously strong as an ox to keep control of that puck
Brilliant!!!! Hemsky's getting a lapdance!!!!!!
Man, he can break a game can't he.
hemmer, NICE!
Wanye Gretz wrote:
if real estate goes into the toilet - and len barrie has trouble at bear mountain - many NHL players will go head hunting prior to Len Barrie giving the keys back to the NHL or Davidson from Palace Entertainment who lent money to these two yahoos (khoules - barrie) to run a fantasy team with an ESPN coach - next up to bat boots del baggio - using the shell game like Bruce McNall to acquire money, he is going to jail now and have a roommate with Anaheim owner Frank Samueli - is the nhl full of bankrupt land developers and jailhouse rock......
Amber wrote:
He, I scored the winner in my beer league game last night.
You can tell when the Oil are feeling good,they have wicked good breakouts...WOOOOO Hemmer!!
Is there a delay on some peoples telecast?