GDB 45: Vincent Lecavalier

Jonathan Willis
January 18 2009 01:04PM

As we wait for the game against the Coyotes to begin, let’s consider two players over the past two seasons. Both are gritty, have good size, and are well-known and often mentioned as Top-10 players. Here are the numbers:

Player A

2008-09: 45GP – 28G – 21A – 59 PTS, +10

2007-08: 82GP – 40G – 66A – 106 PTS, -8

2006-07: 82GP – 56G – 54A – 100 PTS, +23

Player B

2008-09: 45GP – 15G – 22A – 37 PTS, +4

2007-08: 82GP – 41G – 44A – 85 PTS, -23

2006-07: 82GP – 49G – 57A – 106 PTS, -11

Player A is clearly superior to Player B. Outside of a slight difference in one season, he’s been a far better offensive performer, and his +/- totals are well ahead of Player B. Yet everybody, bizarrely enough, thinks that these two players are identical in ability, despite the fact that the statistics don’t support it at all.

The reason that everybody regards these two players as identical talents is because they are one player. Player A is Vincent Lecavalier, specifically his point totals against his own division, pro-rated over full seasons. Player B is Vincent Lecavalier against the rest of the NHL, pro-rated over an entire season.

I haven’t gotten into the effect of the various divisions on player performance, but it is something that we as Oilers fans should be wise to. We’ve seen the effect on Erik Cole, and it isn’t an illusion. The Southeast is the worst division in the NHL, by far, and it isn’t surprising that some of the league’s top goal- and point- scorers can be found there. It’s something that GM’s should keep in mind before making trades, at any rate.

It's something Oilers fans should keep in the back of their mind as they watch their team play the Coyotes and fantasize about what a new addition to the lineup could do to help the cause.

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Jonathan Willis is Managing Editor of the Nation Network. He also currently writes for the Edmonton Journal's Cult of Hockey, Grantland, and Hockey Prospectus. His work has appeared at theScore, ESPN and Puck Daddy. He was previously founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue. Contact him at jonathan (dot) willis (at) live (dot) ca.
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#201 Amber
January 18 2009, 08:13PM
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@ Travis Dakin: I had a great time. The boys were very kind. Except for Baggedmilk, he's a molester!

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#202 Travis Dakin
January 18 2009, 08:14PM
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Amber wrote:

@ Travis Dakin: I had a great time. The boys were very kind. Except for Baggedmilk, he’s a molester!

good.

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#203 Wanye Gretz
January 18 2009, 08:14PM
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@ Travis Dakin:

There will be more for certain. We want to try and be active charitable donation types. It will counterbalance the bad karma of calling Penner a 'tubby clown' if we give money to different charities we hope.

@ Hockey Gods:

Thanks dude. Actually the party was nice and tame. An Oilers victory, some beers, some laughs. An unrelated knife fight in the parking lot after.

You know. The usual.

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#204 Hockey Gods
January 18 2009, 08:14PM
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Hockey Gods wrote: did bagged get loser drunk and try to make out Gregor? I hear Amber got a taste of the sweet nectar. And by sweet nectar I mean baggedmilk’s cold sore infested lips.

Thats sh1t I wanted to hear... no wonder she won't give me a lap dance. She is going to marry baggedmilk.

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#205 Travis Dakin
January 18 2009, 08:15PM
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@ Wanye Gretz:

Sweet. So did everybody unmask themselves?

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#206 Hockey Gods
January 18 2009, 08:17PM
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Travis Dakin wrote:

@ Wanye Gretz: Sweet. So did everybody unmask themselves?

Yeah other than me, who is the best looking commenter?

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#207 Travis Dakin
January 18 2009, 08:17PM
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Can someone tell me why MacT has Gagner out on the 1st PP while Hemsky is back? and yet when he was gone not so much?

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#208 Wanye Gretz
January 18 2009, 08:17PM
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Oh great.

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#209 bingofuel
January 18 2009, 08:18PM
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Just spoke with BUCK75 over Twitter... He's at the game, sporting his Nation T-shirt, and telling people how awesome we are. <3

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#210 Smokin' Ray
January 18 2009, 08:18PM
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Travis Dakin wrote:

Can someone tell me why MacT has Gagner out on the 1st PP while Hemsky is back? and yet when he was gone not so much?

He's resting Reddox.

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#211 Amber
January 18 2009, 08:19PM
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bingofuel wrote:

Just spoke with BUCK75 over Twitter… He’s at the game, sporting his Nation T-shirt, and telling people how awesome we are. <3

Of course he is... cause it's true. We're kind of a big deal.

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#212 Hockey Gods
January 18 2009, 08:19PM
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EFF tie game... we are fighting 2 curses tonight. Retro Jersey Curse and Number Retirement Curse. I am going to sacrifice a virgin chinese food delivery boy to break this curse.

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#213 Amber
January 18 2009, 08:20PM
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Hockey Gods wrote:

EFF tie game… we are fighting 2 curses tonight. Retro Jersey Curse and Number Retirement Curse. I am going to sacrifice a virgin chinese food delivery boy to break this curse.

Before oyu do, will you order me some Kung-Pow chicken?

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#214 Travis Dakin
January 18 2009, 08:20PM
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bingofuel wrote:

Just spoke with BUCK75 over Twitter… He’s at the game, sporting his Nation T-shirt, and telling people how awesome we are. <3

Whats a twitter?

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#215 deep oil
January 18 2009, 08:20PM
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@ Wanye Gretz: I am very thankful to have Mr. Katz’s deep pocket books in control of the ship. There is some scary sh*t going down.

has katz proven to anyone has cash or just cash flow - andy the name is kates not cats

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#216 Smokin' Ray
January 18 2009, 08:20PM
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I changed my underwear. We should start scoring now...

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#217 Amber
January 18 2009, 08:22PM
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@ Hockey Gods: Inappropriate!!!! WAYNE ALERT WAYNE ALERT!!!!

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#218 Hockey Gods
January 18 2009, 08:23PM
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@ Amber: Oh yeah I forgot, you are a taken woman. Sorry bagged.

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#219 Wanye Gretz
January 18 2009, 08:25PM
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Ron Jeremy scores!

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#220 Travis Dakin
January 18 2009, 08:25PM
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That was a first line. Wow.

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#221 jeanshorts
January 18 2009, 08:25PM
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You could almost ice the entire 1986 Edmonton Oilers team with all the boys in the building tonight.

MUSTACHE!

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#222 deep oil
January 18 2009, 08:26PM
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Hockey Gods wrote:

Travis Dakin wrote: @ Wanye Gretz: Sweet. So did everybody unmask themselves? Yeah other than me, who is the best looking commenter?

i would of went but I am at the DR Mansion - I have a feeling that everyone would of yelled at me for my punctuation - but I would of made friends with free crown royal (flask) for everyone

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#223 Wanye Gretz
January 18 2009, 08:26PM
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Winner: Smid

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#224 Hockey Gods
January 18 2009, 08:27PM
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Smider, nice tilt against a tough customer.

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#225 deep oil
January 18 2009, 08:27PM
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jeanshorts wrote:

You could almost ice the entire 1986 Edmonton Oilers team with all the boys in the building tonight. MUSTACHE!

linseman has the gregor look going

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#226 Dropping Deuces
January 18 2009, 08:27PM
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Smid the new Oiler Heavy weight

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#227 Amber
January 18 2009, 08:27PM
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NICE PENNER!!!!

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#228 jeanshorts
January 18 2009, 08:27PM
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Where the hell did all the angry come from lately with Smid? He's trying to take Stortini's job!

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#229 Travis Dakin
January 18 2009, 08:29PM
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Dropping Deuces wrote:

Smid the new Oiler Heavy weight

I refer you to Mr. Sexy's last two tilts...

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#230 Travis Dakin
January 18 2009, 08:30PM
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Where the hell did all the angry come from lately with Smid? He’s trying to take Stortini’s job!

I just don't understand what people don't like about Smid. He's golden.

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#231 Hockey Gods
January 18 2009, 08:31PM
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Big Sexy may have one of the most devistating punches in the league. And when he does it, it makes my (good grief - WG)

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#232 Dropping Deuces
January 18 2009, 08:31PM
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@ Travis Dakin

Touche

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#233 deep oil
January 18 2009, 08:31PM
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Wanye Gretz wrote:

Travis Dakin wrote: @ Wanye Gretz: Ha yeah I didn’t want to say anything but I have been waiting patiently and I did find it quite interesting. To be totally honest my day job is becoming infinitely more complex because of the economy and most of my days are still spent trying to make sense the economic landscape. When I come on to the nation I want to get away from all that. Covering such an inspirational and positive Oilers season wisks me away to a land OF EVEN MORE DOOM AND GLOOM *single tear rolls down cheek*

a media friend told me 99 left his keys in all his fords at the compound and in his gated community - one left the home without permission (stolen).... not to worry when 99 allegedly buys - sponsor donation the whole training staff fords - losing one or two is not a big deal

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#234 R-DAWG
January 18 2009, 08:31PM
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penner isn't sucking as bad tonite

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#235 Hockey Gods
January 18 2009, 08:33PM
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@ Amber: Me or Sheldon?

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#236 Amber
January 18 2009, 08:33PM
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I wonder if Penner got a black van, candy and a puppy to go with the new mustache.

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#237 deep oil
January 18 2009, 08:33PM
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Travis Dakin wrote:

bingofuel wrote: Just spoke with BUCK75 over Twitter… He’s at the game, sporting his Nation T-shirt, and telling people how awesome we are. <3 Whats a twitter?

facebook for people on the go - basement dwellers

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#238 Wanye Gretz
January 18 2009, 08:34PM
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BILL RANFORD!!!!

Favorite Oiler ever

*giggles like a 5 year old*

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#239 Travis Dakin
January 18 2009, 08:34PM
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I gotta get on face book.

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#240 Hockey Gods
January 18 2009, 08:34PM
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Amber wrote:

I wonder if Penner got a black van, candy and a puppy to go with the new mustache.

I sold him mine.

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#241 Travis Dakin
January 18 2009, 08:36PM
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Wanye Gretz wrote:

BILL RANFORD!!!! Favorite Oiler ever *giggles like a 5 year old*

He was my brothers favorite player too. I used to love that puck flip on the glove thing he did.

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#242 Hockey Gods
January 18 2009, 08:36PM
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They couldn't get Glen a suite to enjoy the game from?

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#243 Amber
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Hockey Gods wrote:

Amber wrote: I wonder if Penner got a black van, candy and a puppy to go with the new mustache. I sold him mine.

Now how are you going to meet boys?

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#244 Hockey Gods
January 18 2009, 08:38PM
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I have enough locked up to last a little while.

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#245 Travis Dakin
January 18 2009, 08:41PM
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I like Penner. He is funny.

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#246 jeanshorts
January 18 2009, 08:41PM
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BAHAHAA look at that mustache! Beautiful!

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#247 Wanye Gretz
January 18 2009, 08:42PM
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Penner: 1 Principe: 0

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#248 Travis Dakin
January 18 2009, 08:42PM
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Bah the plugs!

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#249 deep oil
January 18 2009, 08:42PM
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Travis Dakin wrote:

I gotta get on face book.

it only works if you have friends and people like me - i had over 3000 friends with a fake name and facebook DEACTIVATED my friend page- damm - had quite of few hotties that just graduated from high school wanting to friend me because of my hollywood and playboy mansion connections and anything goes at the palms LV

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#250 Travis Dakin
January 18 2009, 08:44PM
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deep oil wrote:

Travis Dakin wrote: I gotta get on face book. it only works if you have friends and people like me - i had over 3000 friends with a fake name and facebook DEACTIVATED my friend page- damm - had quite of few hotties that just graduated from high school wanting to friend me because of my hollywood and playboy mansion connections and anything goes at the palms LV

What?

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