The bucket list

Robin Brownlee
January 29 2009 03:51PM

The morning after the night before at Rexall Place didn't provide the puke-inducing bag skate many fans of the Edmonton Oilers, not to mention some players, expected from coach Craig MacTavish today.

In that regard, the Oilers -- still shame-faced after the humiliating stain on the franchise that was a 10-2 loss to the 1957 Montreal Canadiens, I mean the 2009 Buffalo Sabres -- were spared the need to reach for the bucket, even if those who pay the freight weren't afforded the same courtesy Tuesday.

What MacTavish didn't do in rehashing the worst home defeat in franchise history with a stench still hanging in the air was sugar-coat the abomination or take issue with fans who jeered his team.

At least the Sabres gave the faithful what they wanted, answering chants of "We want 10, We want 10 " by putting up double digits, capping 60 minutes of buffing their boots on Oiler backsides with a shorty.

Got a problem with that, MacT?

"Our fans, I give them a lot of credit," said MacTavish. "They're very appropriate in their reactions. When they're unhappy, they're good hockey fans, they know the game and they know the expectations.

"They don't fly off the handle prematurely. I thought last night, they weren't bad. They weren't as bad as what it could have been. We deserved it all."

But coach, "We want 10?"

"We would have joined in the chorus, too," MacTavish said of the coaching staff, trying to lighten things a bit. "We were disappointed, too. They were very appropriate in their commentary."

The saying goes that the first step in solving a problem is admitting there is one. Maybe so, but I'm not sure the Oilers deserve that much credit, given how the Chicago Blackhawks waltzed into town not so long ago and drubbed them 9-2. That said, MacTavish faced every question.

"I don't feel compelled to say anything, other than we'll be better, which isn't a stretch," said MacTavish when asked what he'd like to say to fans.

Revenge of the nerds

Tuesday's "debacle of monumental proportions" was like watching a schoolyard bully yank a kid out of algebra class by the pocket protector, drag him down the hall to the boys washroom, shove his head in the toilet and flush until his arm got tired.

At some point, even the nerd decides he's had enough and fights back, even if it's to no avail and the bully throws in a Stanfield's-stretching wedgie for good measure. Where was the fight from the Oilers? And, no, Craig Rivet accidentally getting kicked in the groin by Dustin Penner doesn't count.

What part of getting embarrassed by the Blackhawks Dec. 16 didn't the Oilers understand? I know it wouldn't have changed anything, but, failing salvaging some pride by coming out and winning the third period, doesn't somebody have to get punched in the mouth or two-handed?

At some point, doesn't somebody, anybody, say, "I'm not going to take this. I've had enough?" Apparently not.

"At that point, what's it going to prove?" said Sheldon Souray. "You're already getting embarrassed. We don't need to embarrass ourselves further. We were getting beat fair and square on the score board."

I've got all the respect in the world for Souray, who at least took a hack at a Buffalo forward in front of clay pigeon Jeff Deslauriers in frustration, but I disagree.

Until last night, it was fair to argue Chicago was a one-off, but to sit back and watch the Sabres light it up virtually unmolested?

Sorry, call me Scribe-osaurus-Rex, but somebody needs to get poked in the nose when it's 7-1 or 8-1 or 10-2.

"We were getting humbled and humiliated by that team," Souray said. "I think we would've embarrassed ourselves had we taken the game to a different landscape. I just don't think it would have served a purpose."

Now what?

  • With a three-game winning streak and their tidy 5-1 roll done, the Oilers have to gather themselves and face the Minnesota Wild, who'll arrive Friday eyeball-to-eyeball in Western Conference standings. Both teams are 24-20-3 for 51 points, but Minnesota sits seventh and the Oilers eighth based on goal-differential. Not to worry, the Oilers always light up Nicklas Backstrom like a cheap cigar...
  • Expect MacTavish to go back to Dwayne Roloson against the Wild despite his shaky start against Buffalo (three goals on eight shots).
  • GM Steve Tambellini and president of hockey operations Kevin Lowe took in today's marathon practice, which ran about one hour and 45 minutes and included a break to re-flood the ice. Both looked on for most of the session, with each stepping out occasionally to answer the phone -- no doubt lots of GMs out there are calling to help them out.
  • The next six games are particularly important to the Oilers playoff hopes. In order, they'll face Minnesota, Nashville, Chicago, St. Louis, Detroit and the Wild again.

-- Listen to Robin Brownlee every Thursday from 4 to 6pm on Just A Game with Jason Gregor on TEAM 1260.

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#1 The Towel Boy
January 28 2009, 03:59PM
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Certainly not the bag skate I was hoping for.

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#2 APE
January 28 2009, 04:10PM
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I would've donated 23 buckets. I'm with you Brownlee. Nobody said they had to run around and try get someone but Jesus don't be scared to get pissed off and slash someone or hit someone.

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#3 swany
January 28 2009, 04:25PM
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Was at the practice and I thought they would be puking there brains out, that was a bad D game last night but I thought the offence created chances, but just couldn't finish. When it was 3 zip Penner missed an open net and so did Redoxx make it 3-2 and the game could have been diffrent, and Robin thanks for the invite to the practice my kids had a ball, it was worth the drive.

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#4 RobinB
January 28 2009, 04:26PM
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@ APE: I didn't sense a lot of piss and vinegar in the dressing room today. I can understand being stunned and somewhat reserved the first time you get spanked that badly, but I expected a little more "we're not going to take this and it isn't going to happen again" after the second time.

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#5 swany
January 28 2009, 04:42PM
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RobinB wrote:

@ APE: I didn’t sense a lot of piss and vinegar in the dressing room today. I can understand being stunned and somewhat reserved the first time you get spanked that badly, but I expected a little more “we’re not going to take this and it isn’t going to happen again” after the second time.

Iagree wjth that but we aren't the only team to get spanked in sports the yankies get spanked, the raptors and so on I want this team to play harder and more aggressive but they did win5 of 6 and I am hoping they WIN Friday, Igot interviewed by ctv and they asked if I was at the game if I would want my money back NO we pay vto see them play win big or lose big it's sports craap happens and it happened last night shake it off and put in a good effort and win friday and all is forgotten.

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#6 Jack "slacking off at work" Bauer
January 28 2009, 04:44PM
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RobinB wrote:

@ APE: I didn’t sense a lot of piss and vinegar in the dressing room today. I can understand being stunned and somewhat reserved the first time you get spanked that badly, but I expected a little more “we’re not going to take this and it isn’t going to happen again” after the second time.

Thats a problem with this team that has been missing for a few years. The attitude should have been, "Were going to anilihate them one way or another on Friday"

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#7 RobinB
January 28 2009, 04:49PM
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@ swany All is forgotten? Taking that kind of beating twice in a month at home isn't something you can just write-off as "sh*t happens."

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#8 Wanye Gretz
January 28 2009, 04:56PM
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RobinB wrote:

@ swany All is forgotten? Taking that kind of beating twice in a month at home isn’t something you can just write-off as “sh*t happens.”

Straight up. It's puzzling to see how little pride in the uniform some of these guys had. The Jason Smiths and the Ryan Smyths of the world would rather take an AM-RAM missile to the nuts than see the team disrespected.

Nilsson (for example) - not so much.

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#9 swany
January 28 2009, 04:56PM
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RobinB wrote:

@ swany All is forgotten? Taking that kind of beating twice in a month at home isn’t something you can just write-off as “sh*t happens.”

I guess I don't know what to say about that getting mad wanting Mact's head or wanting them to trade this guy or that guy isn't going to change the fact that they got smoked. Sure I thought Storts or ANYBODY should have grabbed someone and laid a beating on them but they didn't I don't want an appology, I want them to come out and make ammends on the ice that game is over it was bad, but it's a small thing in life, my kids are healthy, I have a good life now if the Oilers could win every game, it would be perfect, but if they win 3 out of 4 that's great to.

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#10 RobinB
January 28 2009, 05:06PM
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@ Wanye Gretz: Remember how a lot of people portrayed the slugfest against the Canucks in Vancouver last season as one of those swing games when the Oilers came together? Look at Sam Gagner fight, blah, blah blah. Fair enough. But you can't hold up that kind of performance as a character-builder without wondering if a total no-show like Tuesday shows a lack of the very same qualities. Win or lose, you don't lay down like the Oilers did against Buffalo when it's already happened once before.

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#11 David S
January 28 2009, 05:10PM
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Wanye Gretz wrote:

RobinB wrote: Nilsson (for example) - not so much.

Robin - I thought Nilsson was one of the few last night that made a personal statement that he wasn't going to go down without having something to say about it. I mean, his goal busting to the net was a rare moment of redemption in 60 minutes of crap.

That's what I was looking for. Guys knowing that they were screwed but still having the guts to face the man and give it their best shot in a losing cause. The fighting stuff - well Souray was right. The only thing it would have proven was that we're a bunch of sore losers.

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#12 David S
January 28 2009, 05:12PM
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Uhhh...I was replying to Wanye.

Sorry Robin. I messed up with the quote app.

*Preview function* would dearly be appreciated.

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#13 Wanye Gretz
January 28 2009, 05:18PM
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David S wrote:

Uhhh…I was replying to Wanye. Sorry Robin. I messed up with the quote app. *Preview function* would dearly be appreciated.

Preview function, edit button, self aware umbrella cyborgs. What is this google?

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#14 Jack "slacking off at work" Bauer
January 28 2009, 05:25PM
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If the Flames beat us 10-2, do you guys think there would be line brawls? You can bet your ass there would be. There is no point doing that in a game where your not going to see that team again. There are other ways they could have played without going head hunting. Columbus didnt do it to us, and they are turning out alright.

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#15 Ender the Dragon
January 28 2009, 05:26PM
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Anyone who has kids has experienced a situation similar to the following; you walk into the house and your child is standing in the kitchen in middle of the a pile of broken glass, holding a long stick in one hand and a skipping rope in the other. At that point, not not 100% sure what has happened, but you're reasonably sure you're not going to like the answer.

At this point, you have several options. Some of them will will make your kid dislike you, some of them will provide a teaching opportunity, and a few might even land your kid in foster care. The difference between them all is how you handle your emotions initially. While it's perfectly natural to be angry and want to beat the child with the blunt end of the refridgerator, that's not the correct answer. You may well decide that the child is going to get a spanking but if that is your choice, logic dictates that you should cool off before proceeding with such a plan. Failure to do so can lead to unforseen and unfortunate events as a result.

What does all of this have to do with the Oilers? It's a question of maturity and emotional control; if they didn't respond last night because they just didn't give a damn, then I agree that there's a serious problem in the room and some trades and/or demotions are in order. If, however, the Oilers were angry on the inside but holding themselves in check, then I am onside with their actions. Jason already pointed out that we challenged their guys to fight. When they don't oblige, letting your emotions get the better of you and hauling off and sucker punching someone may not be the wisest course of action. Sure, it feels good at the time; venting your rage on someone who's just royally pissed you off usually does. The misconduct and the league review that go with it, however, aren't as easy to accept. Ask Todd Bertuzzi if he would do anything differently in his life given a do-over. Yeah, we lost 10-2 last night, but no one did anything stupid, no one got hurt, no one got suspended for 18 games, you get the idea. I think maybe it all worked out as best as could be hoped for, given the score.

Friday, we'll find out whether it was emotional maturity that kept the fight out of the boys or a complete void of character. I sure hope it's the former.

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#16 Jack "slacking off at work" Bauer
January 28 2009, 05:29PM
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What a great post. There is no question what a piece of suman scum Bertuzzi is. He should be in jail, not playing in the NHL. Im glad we dont have one of those kinds of shît on our team.

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#17 KayleW
January 28 2009, 05:34PM
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It's kinda hard to play the body and get anything going if the other team is skating circles around you! If that had been the Okotoks Oilers out there I don't think the score would have been any worse!

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#18 swany
January 28 2009, 05:35PM
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Robin I heard some intresting things going around the rink today, did you hear anything of NEWS regarding trades?

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#19 Jack "slacking off at work" Bauer
January 28 2009, 05:47PM
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Apparantly Boston wants Cole. Probably a lot of teams want Cole.

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#20 freeze
January 28 2009, 05:48PM
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David S wrote:

Uhhh…I was replying to Wanye. Sorry Robin. I messed up with the quote app. *Preview function* would dearly be appreciated.

they are too busy making a Flames site so they can jump the bandwagon come spring. ;)

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#21 APE
January 28 2009, 05:52PM
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I was at the game last night and nobody except Struds asked anyone to fight and he asked earlier in the game. It's not a matter of getting into a brawl it's a matter of saying hey, you can't just walk all over us and we don't give a shit.

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#22 Chris
January 28 2009, 06:07PM
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Jayman Master Builders only had to pay out on 11 hits... BRUTAL!

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#23 David S
January 28 2009, 06:14PM
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Chris wrote:

Jayman Master Builders only had to pay out on 11 hits… BRUTAL!

Yeah. I saw that too. Talk about rubbing salt into the wounds.

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#24 Mike
January 28 2009, 06:26PM
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swany wrote:

Robin I heard some intresting things going around the rink today, did you hear anything of NEWS regarding trades?

Hey man, that is the third lame attempt by you to state you were at the rink and on CITY. Show us the clip and then we can ask Gregor and Brownlee if they saw you there. If you were there why didn't you say hi to either or them, especially Brownlee since you ask him lots of questions.

Me get it...you are a wannabee..but prove it or zip it...no one cares you were at practice...and I thought practices were closed to the public? Gregor or Brownlee is that true?

And Nilsson was the best of a bad bunch...but sadly that isn't saying much

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#25 Darcy
January 28 2009, 06:26PM
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Chris wrote:

Jayman Master Builders only had to pay out on 11 hits… BRUTAL!

Given the state of Jayman's finances, they might not even be able to afford 11.

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#26 RobinB
January 28 2009, 06:29PM
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@ Ender the Dragon: Hey, I don't even spank my son. Not even when he tried to throw his Sam Gagner puck through the glass door of the display cabinet in my office we keep our hockey stuff in, so I get the analogy you're making.

There's a time for counting to 10 -- but it's not when you're keeping track of how many goals the other team is scoring. The Bertuzzi case stood on its own because threats were made after one game -- after the hit on Markus Naslund -- that carried over to another game. That's a far cry from hitting everything that moves and getting in the faces of the Sabres in the third period and showing you've got some jam.

It's not so much about sending the Sabres a message, because we're not going to see them again for a long time. It's about letting every team know the welcome mat isn't out at Rexall Place. Their record at home isn't nearly good enough.

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#27 RobinB
January 28 2009, 06:31PM
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@ Mike: Take it easy on Swany. He's telling the truth. He was at the practice.

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#28 Chris
January 28 2009, 06:33PM
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@ Ender the Dragon: Nice apologist post. The Oilers threw 11 measly hits and surrendered 10 goals. That has got to be an NHL record. Oiler fans don't want to see a "Bertuzzi"... but we all deserve to see SOME emotion. Do you think if the Oilers had started taking the body (clean checks)after falling behind two or three goals the "debauchle" could have been avoided? I do! The Oilers didn't take the high road. The Oilers didn't succeed in managing their emotions... They simply didn't have any.

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#29 Fiveandagame
January 28 2009, 06:57PM
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It's not about fisticuffs it's about being hard to play against, finishing your checks, being hard on the puck and forechecking like a mother trucker.

That would be playing with pride. Regardless of the score you could cheer for that team and al least know they went down swinging.

This is the same issue we've had with the team all year. They aren't hard to play against. Sure they have skill, but other than Souray , Strudwick, Storts and Cole (who at least will body check, it would be great if he learned to stay on his feet after though) this team is soft. Mr. Heart and Soul Staios has been easy to play against.

The reason I don't put Moreau up with them is he takes to many retarded penalties. Sure he plays tough, but he repeatedly hand cuffs his team with a bad slashing or hooking penalty.

I would rather see Pekham get beat wide every other game then watch Staios be soft in his own end and give up a goal at the net. At least Pekham plays with an edge and has the size to handle the leagues forwards.

I hate this roller coaster and I want off....

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#30 Rick
January 28 2009, 07:46PM
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Robin or Jason, were either of you guys in the scrum that CTV used of Moreau?

I was wondering if you guys could shed some light on the context surrounding his comment when asked about the fans. It seems that it could be taken a couple different ways. First one being that the fans pay their dollars so all is fair and the other basically suggesting that the Oilers are the only game in town so tough luck.

The second comment was when he was asked if they were prepared for the opening face off. Souray says no and Moreau says yeah. How can he possibly suggest with a straight face that they were ready to go?

I am Moreau fan in general but holy cow what the hell?

Anyways, I was just hoping one of you guys could clarify or expand on what not only seems like stupid comments but frankly pretty damaging with the fans in the case of the first one.

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#31 RobinB
January 28 2009, 07:48PM
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@ Rick: I didn't go near Ethan today because I was talking with Souray and Staios. I did see the comment you're talking about on the evening news, but I can't lend any context to it.

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#32 swany
January 28 2009, 08:10PM
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Mike wrote:

swany wrote: Robin I heard some intresting things going around the rink today, did you hear anything of NEWS regarding trades? Hey man, that is the third lame attempt by you to state you were at the rink and on CITY. Show us the clip and then we can ask Gregor and Brownlee if they saw you there. If you were there why didn’t you say hi to either or them, especially Brownlee since you ask him lots of questions. Me get it…you are a wannabee..but prove it or zip it…no one cares you were at practice…and I thought practices were closed to the public? Gregor or Brownlee is that true? And Nilsson was the best of a bad bunch…but sadly that isn’t saying much

What the hell is your problem, I am not a wannabee, my KIDS had the time of the lives there, I don't know you and you don't know me so what's with the personal attacks, all I said was I heard somethings while I was there and if Robin has heard anything new on the trade front, and I did say hi to Robin. Sorry to piss you off, man if that's all it takes you must be a blast at parties

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#33 Sing A Song For SingSing
January 28 2009, 08:11PM
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I was never convinced this team turned a corner. I'm still barely convinced they'll be a playoff team.

The Hemsky story is a nice little piece over the past week or so, got everyone excited and gave them something to write about with his coming back from injury and contributing in marvelous fashion. We'll see how long he lasts, and how consistent he is with his play.

At this rate they're going to need Hemmer to play like a superstar virtually every night if they want to have a legit shot at the post season, cuz the rest of the forwards on this team - aside from maybe Cole - are passengers.

Goaltending = suspect.

Defense... well, I'm happy with it overall. But they're going to have to be lights out in the second less-than-half as well. Souray has to play like he was in the first 30 games, he's dropped off quite a bit IMO.

Realistically dwelling on the playoffs though... I just don't think they have the horses, don't have the talent to do it. And even if they did sneak in with the 7 or 8 seed, they'd be easily disposed of by SJ or DET. It would be embarrassingly easy. Same could be said with CGY, and don't think it would be any different just cuz it's CALGARY.

Edmonton plays with virtually zero heart, zero pride and zero determination. They're not physical enough to hang with Calgary, the Flamers have developed into a well oiled machine.

Back 2 the upcoming sked over the next 5 or 6 games...

I can see the Oilers dropping the game on Friday (unless Hemmer has another dominating game and Roli stops at least 2 sure goals), losing to Nashville on Sunday then getting destroyed by Chicago on Tuesday - all games on home ice - and getting the train(wreck) right back on track.

They COULD win 2/6 with W's against St.Louis and MTL the following week on the 11th. They play Detroit and Minny again leading up to that.

Could potentially be disastrous and the end of the season if they don't get their shit together ASAP.

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#34 Sing A Song For SingSing
January 28 2009, 08:23PM
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Ender the Dragon wrote:

Anyone who has kids has experienced a situation similar to the following; you walk into the house and your child is standing in the kitchen in middle of the a pile of broken glass, holding a long stick in one hand and a skipping rope in the other. At that point, not not 100% sure what has happened, but you’re reasonably sure you’re not going to like the answer. At this point, you have several options. Some of them will will make your kid dislike you, some of them will provide a teaching opportunity, and a few might even land your kid in foster care. The difference between them all is how you handle your emotions initially. While it’s perfectly natural to be angry and want to beat the child with the blunt end of the refridgerator, that’s not the correct answer. You may well decide that the child is going to get a spanking but if that is your choice, logic dictates that you should cool off before proceeding with such a plan. Failure to do so can lead to unforseen and unfortunate events as a result. What does all of this have to do with the Oilers? It’s a question of maturity and emotional control; if they didn’t respond last night because they just didn’t give a damn, then I agree that there’s a serious problem in the room and some trades and/or demotions are in order. If, however, the Oilers were angry on the inside but holding themselves in check, then I am onside with their actions. Jason already pointed out that we challenged their guys to fight. When they don’t oblige, letting your emotions get the better of you and hauling off and sucker punching someone may not be the wisest course of action. Sure, it feels good at the time; venting your rage on someone who’s just royally pissed you off usually does. The misconduct and the league review that go with it, however, aren’t as easy to accept. Ask Todd Bertuzzi if he would do anything differently in his life given a do-over. Yeah, we lost 10-2 last night, but no one did anything stupid, no one got hurt, no one got suspended for 18 games, you get the idea. I think maybe it all worked out as best as could be hoped for, given the score. Friday, we’ll find out whether it was emotional maturity that kept the fight out of the boys or a complete void of character. I sure hope it’s the former.

Prepare yourself for sheer and utter disappointment haha. That's what I like to call a guaranteed L-Burna

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#35 freeze
January 28 2009, 08:41PM
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and to top it all off, Calgary does them in 5-2. Cammalleri has 4 goals. shat.

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#36 Deans
January 28 2009, 09:25PM
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We really need to stop using the phrase unmolosted when talking hockey. Other than that another great column

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#37 David S
January 28 2009, 09:48PM
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Deans - give it a rest.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/unmolested

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#38 rindog
January 28 2009, 10:22PM
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@ RobinB:

I heard that today's practice could be classified as a "back to the basics" practice???

If that is true, how sad is it that our coach has to run a "back to basics" practice at this point in the season? Aren't most teams fine tuning and tweaking their systems for a big playoff push? It speaks volumes as to the direction this team is (or isn't) headed on the ice....

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#39 Hockey Gods
January 28 2009, 11:00PM
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@ rindog: After last nights performance I think they need to go back to the basic's. They were clueless with the d-zone coverage.

Mind you I am with the rest of you, a bag skate was in order. One hour bag skate, flood the ice then go out and do total back to basic's, treat them like atoms practice.

I hope today they all feel like Corky from Life Goes On, b/c thats what they looked like last night.

I am trying stay positive, and last night was a just a bump in the road... right... they win the next 2 and they are 7 - 2 in their last nine... please??

I would have an easier time believing that had showed at least one ounce of pride last night. Arrrggghhh you would think us Oil fans would be used to the inconsitancy.

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#40 RobinB
January 28 2009, 11:00PM
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@ rindog: Not so much back to basics as reinforcing what's already in place. Lots of repetition of drills they've done before. It's the longest practice I can recall under MacTavish. Ron Low had a couple as long during his tenure.

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#41 rindog
January 28 2009, 11:12PM
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@ RobinB:

Then I guess my real question is:

What kind of team needs reinforcing at this time of the year? Especially when this coach is the only one most of the players really know at the NHL level??

I don't want to use the "tune out" phrase - but if the players have been using the system and actually bought into it -would they really need reinforcement now?

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#42 rindog
January 28 2009, 11:21PM
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@ Hockey Gods:

I guess that is my point. We only really have two new impact players on our team this year. Why is this team still struggling with the simple things?

Is the system not working or are the players not playing the system?

If it is the latter - we have to ask the question; why?

Do the players not believe in the system the coach is implementing?

Maybe we don't have the right players to play the system being asked of them?

Either way, it seems very odd that we would need to be addressing these types of things at this point in the season???

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#43 Hockey Gods
January 28 2009, 11:29PM
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Hey Robin and/or Gregor maybe you guys might have some insight on a pipe dream I am having. Darren Dreger's (who seems to be a pretty well conected guy) blog on tsn.ca cited some players he predicted to move before the deadline. The one that really made my tighty whities rise was Colby Armstrong.

I see his game as something the Oilers could really use. He has that sandpaper high energy style who is defensively aware (Career plus player), can pot the odd goal, or drop the gloves and stick up for his teammates. I have always seen him as a born leader.

Now my hard-on aside, I don't want to become a rumour monger, as Dregor states in his article there are no garantees; he is just hearing this list of names mentioned. But if he were availible, do you guys see him as fit here, would Tambo has as much interest as me, and what do you guys think it would take get him?

*** Again it may be pipe dream, but play along fantacy's are fun ***

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#44 Hockey Gods
January 28 2009, 11:32PM
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rindog wrote:

Either way, it seems very odd that we would need to be addressing these types of things at this point in the season???

The thing is a week and a half ago they didn't need to address these things. That is is most frustrating thing as a fan, the inconsistancy makes you want to punch nun.

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#45 The Leaker
January 29 2009, 12:21AM
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Mike Gillis and Pat Quinn are talking , watch for something to happen to the canuckle heads

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#46 Deans
January 29 2009, 12:24AM
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@ David S: I'm not a PC nut or anything I've just been hearing that phrase pop up alot in hockey talk. I think it was one of the third string CBC hacks who used that phrase while I was watching a game with a group of friends. The whole room went silent and everyone had a disturbed WTF look on their face. While the lexical definition is harmless, for my generation at least, the word unmolested conjures negative images that have nothing to do with hockey. Ok now Im officially going to give it a rest.

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#47 Antony Ta
January 29 2009, 01:40AM
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At least MacTavish can man-it-up.

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#48 RobinB
January 29 2009, 07:47AM
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@ Hockey Gods: Interesting with Armstrong. He does have some qualities that make him a useful guy (although it sounds like you were describing Moreau when listing his attributes).

I'll tell you this, although it doesn't necessarily apply now: as part of draft previews I used to to do at the Journal and Sun, I'd make up an Oilers wish list of players they wanted. I asked the Oilers specifically about Armstrong because I thought he might go as high as 13th, where they picked. They weren't nearly as impressed with him as I was at the time. The Oilers took Hemsky 13th and Pittsburgh took Armstrong 21st.

Anyway, the Oilers have a couple of immediate needs that are different from what Armstrong brings. I don't see a real need for him right now.

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#49 OB
January 29 2009, 08:00AM
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Until fans stand up by not showing up to games, we will continue to watch subpar play, horrible coaching, and laughable management.

This team is a pretender. I guess that stands to reason when the Captain is a smug, arrogant washed up third liner. As a long time season ticket holder, I was very disappointed in Moreau's comments yesterday. Maybe the players should donate their pay from that game to the hospitals they're visiting today; which is just a quick PR fix BTW.

It's too bad Katz's head is rammed up Lowe's ass to see how horribly run this club is.

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#50 Greg MC
January 29 2009, 08:25AM
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It looks like Coach doesn't have a clue about how the team will perform day to day. It looks like the players want to help him out the door. What is it going to take to end his tenure? MF!

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