GDB IV: Les Canadiens fous et l'Huile de Pat Quinn

Jason Gregor
October 10 2009 02:13PM

What a week it has been for Edmonton fans! Your heart has been broken three times in the final minutes this week. Twice against your biggest rival, and to add some salt in the wound the Esks’ choked last night as well.

And to make things even more fun for those going to Rexall tonight you’ll be joined by the 9th most annoying fans in sports.

I graduated from J.H Picard, and I hated the Habs because of my classmates. Their singing in the hallways after a Canadiens’ win made me up-chuck my poutine, and when they lost they always had some lame excuse. For your sake, I hope you don’t have to endure one of their songs tonight.

Jarome Iginla, Sheldon Souray and Pat Quinn distracted most of you away from the fact the Oilers have already given up a goal in the final minute of a game; TWICE.

And another concern is why Quinn feels the need to hide his line combinations from the opposition. On Thursday morning’s skate, Quinn had juggled his lines.

He had Dustin Penner with 10 and 83. He’d moved Sam Gagner between 19 and 22, he put Gilbert Brule in the middle of 91 and 32, and he had Andrew Cogliano flanked by 18 and 46. Even during warm up, he had these lines doing rushes, until finally switching back to lines we saw on Thursday night.

What is the point of this?

Why have players practice together, but then not play together. Quinn has consistently rolled four lines so far this year, so why was he worried about trying to fool the Flames?

This morning the lines looked like this:

Jacques — Horcoff — Hemsky

Stone — Gagner — O’Sullivan

Penner — Brule — Comrie

Moreau — Cogliano — Stortini

It is refreshing to see Quinn so adamant that his players make the right play at key times. He has pointed out the mistakes of players from Hemsky to Smid, and that is great. But it’s time to show some faith in his players.

Trying to hide your line combinations from the opposition is ridiculous. Believe that whoever you put out there will succeed. I think it is great that none of the players are comfortable with their role on the team, but resorting to a Cloak and Dagger attitude with the lines makes no sense.

He wants his players to be tough and to stand up for one another; then he needs to be part of that as well.

I have no problem with the new combinations; in fact I’d take Jacques of the top line and put Penner there, because the first line hasn’t played well so far, but if you he wants his players to practice like they play, what is the point of practicing with players you won’t play with?

The Canadiens are reeling having surrendered eleven goals in their past two games. Their blueline isn’t very good with Markov out four months.

The Oilers need to stay aggressive and be physical. The Habs blueliners aren’t the greatest puck handlers, and they’ll be prone to giveaways if the Oilers stay on them.

Steve Staios will draw back in tonight. He’ll play with Ladislav Smid while the other pairings remain the same. Souray is listed as day-to-day, and I’d only be guessing on when he’ll return. Concussions, whether they are mild or serious, are tough to gauge. They hope he’ll be ready for Monday’s game in Nashville, but they won’t rush him back. He was pretty out of hit after the hit.

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#51 David S
October 10 2009, 04:25PM
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^ "GREAT" job of filling in.

*Lament's I'm A Scientist's lack of progress on the definitive hangover cure*

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#52 quicksilver ballet
October 10 2009, 04:38PM
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Appologies about Wednesday Jason...those bullnuts are impossible to find (just assumed all Partsource stores had them on hand) need another week or so.....i'm sure you'll here about it when this task has been completed.

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#53 Skidplate
October 10 2009, 04:58PM
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Oilers: 5 Habs: 2

Anyone else buy tickers to Eddie Money........ He is going to ROCK THE JOINT!!!!

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#54 yegCopywriter
October 10 2009, 05:03PM
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BarryS wrote:

People who put cheeze in fries would put gravy on salad. Fies were invented for salt and ketchup and to be eaten with fingers. Anyway else is for barbarians.

Mmmm, gravy salad...

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#55 Tha Legion
October 10 2009, 05:05PM
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Cogs is going to be a wasted asset on the 4th line nuff said

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#56 Tha Legion
October 10 2009, 05:08PM
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And 1-0 oilers, it will be an early goal and a defensive battle

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#57 Archaeologuy
October 10 2009, 05:27PM
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@RossCreekNation

I was just pokin fun, but seriously i have NEVER heard the term mozza fries before.

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#58 Tha Legion
October 10 2009, 05:30PM
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@Archaeologuy

Nor have I to be honest, and at primetime donair you can get a donair poutine, it's exquisite

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#59 Rigger
October 10 2009, 05:46PM
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@Tha Legion

But Gags wasn't at 4th line. What gets me is people keep moaning about Cogs being on 4th, when everyone was happy about Gags being there. What's the difference? They'er both waster there

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#60 Shaun Doe
October 10 2009, 05:52PM
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Having my parents and the majority of my extended family being born in Quebec made my formative years as a hockey fan hell. They dumped on me as I cheered the Oil while they pulled for the blu blanc et rouge. So I have very little love for the habs, having said that though, I will never... NEVER turn my back on poutine. God I love them gravy ladden cheese curds!

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#61 RLH
October 10 2009, 05:56PM
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Love the Spike TV article, particularly the fact that Vancouver was called on the Olympics bid.

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#62 RLH
October 10 2009, 05:59PM
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@Tha Legion Donair Poutine? Sounds like a heart attack in a bag.

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#63 Librarian Mike
October 10 2009, 06:01PM
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RLH wrote:

@Tha Legion Donair Poutine? Sounds like a heart attack in a bag.

Ugh. It's also notable as looking exactly the same coming out as it is going in.

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#64 Senator Theo
October 10 2009, 06:46PM
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Librarian Mike wrote:

Ugh. It's also notable as looking exactly the same coming out as it is going in.

I hadn't noticed that you've switched from that adorable baby to a Stage West-type Bea Arthur glamour shot. Nicely done - remember those drug store commercials she used to do? was it Shopper's Drug Mart?

RC: If you're going to call poutine "Mozza Fries", do you also call tortilla chips, "fried corn flour"? ;)

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#65 Skidplate
October 10 2009, 06:48PM
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Shremp got a first assist on a powerplay goal, Rolie is pitching a shutout...

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#66 Librarian Mike
October 10 2009, 06:51PM
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@Senator Theo

remember those drug store commercials she used to do? was it Shopper's Drug Mart?

Oh man, that takes me back. I remember my parents used to go to Stage West all the time and get commemorative glasses. I think at one point they had a set of glasses with pictures of every castmember of MASH.

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#67 Archaeologuy
October 10 2009, 06:54PM
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@Skidplate

I saw that, good for him. I hope he sticks and proves the Oilers wrong (just not in games actually played against the Oilers)

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#68 Lofty
October 10 2009, 07:19PM
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Rigger wrote:

But Gags wasn't at 4th line. What gets me is people keep moaning about Cogs being on 4th, when everyone was happy about Gags being there. What's the difference? They'er both waster there

Its all about setting a precident. Perform every night, do not turn over the puck and earn your pay every night. I agree with putting Gagner on the 4th line before Cogs.

Either way I'd rather do these kind of things now and put the players on notice rather than do it later and just hope to find some magic.

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#69 VicOiler
October 10 2009, 07:52PM
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Just watched the Islanders and Bruins game on Centre Ice. Wow Roloson can be a jackass, I knew that when he played for the Oil, but it just re-affirmed it.

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#70 VicOiler
October 10 2009, 07:53PM
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Oh and they used Schremp in the shotout. He scored... barley.

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#71 Archaeologuy
October 10 2009, 08:33PM
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I miss Souray

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#72 Lofty
October 10 2009, 08:41PM
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Hemsky is FLOATING!

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#73 VicOiler
October 10 2009, 08:43PM
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@Lofty

I'm a little worried about him, Quinn is not gonna play favorites. I got the sense that under MacT Hemmer had the freedom to whatever he wanted.

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#74 Lofty
October 10 2009, 08:47PM
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"I like the looks of Penner-Brule-Comrie. 2 goals for that line tonight, one for Penner and one for Comrie."

looks like the little guy is 1 for 2 after the first!

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#75 Rigger
October 10 2009, 08:54PM
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@Lofty

Fine and dandy, but it should apply to everyone, not just a select few. There are those who haven't earned the ice time they've been getting (first line I'm lookin at you)

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#76 jeanshorts
October 10 2009, 08:55PM
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Saturday night huh? Not a lot of people here tonight huh?

*continues to drink his weight in Bud Light Lime*

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#77 Rigger
October 10 2009, 08:56PM
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VicOiler wrote:

I'm a little worried about him, Quinn is not gonna play favorites. I got the sense that under MacT Hemmer had the freedom to whatever he wanted.

Hemmer is one of the guys I'm talking about, Horc is another. They had crap camps, and have been pretty disappointing, but they keep getting a pass.

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#78 Archaeologuy
October 10 2009, 09:00PM
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@Rigger

I dont think that will last long, Quinn will unleash his Old Man Powers on those guys soon enough.

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#79 Rigger
October 10 2009, 09:02PM
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@Archaeologuy

I hope your right. I'm all for clean slates and earning your ice time, but you can't cherry pick who does that. EVERYONE should have to follow that rule, and so far it hasn't happened that way. Maybe that's part of Hemmer and Horcoff's problem, everyone gives them a pass at camp because they're "vets" yet other vets have to "earn" time. I notice it's been the same in games, and perhaps that's why Hemmer feels he can float a lot of the time.

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#80 Archaeologuy
October 10 2009, 09:05PM
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oooh, khabi had no idea where that one was

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#81 Archaeologuy
October 10 2009, 09:07PM
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WHOOOOOOoooooooooo

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#82 Archaeologuy
October 10 2009, 09:08PM
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What am i the only one in the room?

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#83 vern
October 10 2009, 09:13PM
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nice lets go oilers

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#84 Librarian Mike
October 10 2009, 09:15PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

What am i the only one in the room?

I'm here. *holds hands out for a hug*

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#85 vern
October 10 2009, 09:17PM
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I'll say this much, the oil have been fun to watch so far.

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#86 Rigger
October 10 2009, 09:19PM
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Woooo! POS with a goal, finally. Let's keep up the pressure boys!

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#87 Archaeologuy
October 10 2009, 09:20PM
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Librarian Mike wrote:

I'm here. *holds hands out for a hug*

Consider yourself hugged, sir.

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#88 OilerLoverFlameoutHater
October 10 2009, 09:23PM
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Nice PP OILERS are still flying great tip by Jauques all in all every goal has been great good to see

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#89 Archaeologuy
October 10 2009, 09:23PM
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Ryan Stone might be my new favourite fringe Oiler

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#90 Rigger
October 10 2009, 09:24PM
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Hugs all around? *arms waiting*

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#91 Rigger
October 10 2009, 09:25PM
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@Archaeologuy

HE's certainly been awesome this game! Wooooo!

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#92 OilerLoverFlameoutHater
October 10 2009, 09:25PM
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We are owning their smurfs tonight guess ours are better

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#93 OilerLoverFlameoutHater
October 10 2009, 09:26PM
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Sully

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#94 Librarian Mike
October 10 2009, 09:27PM
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OilerLoverFlameoutHater wrote:

We are owning their smurfs tonight guess ours are better

We've still got the 3rd coming up....gulp...

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#95 OilerLoverFlameoutHater
October 10 2009, 09:28PM
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Les Canadians kinda remind me of the oilers last year

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#96 Rigger
October 10 2009, 09:29PM
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Let's kill this off boys!

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#97 OilerLoverFlameoutHater
October 10 2009, 09:30PM
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Nice kill boys

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#98 Librarian Mike
October 10 2009, 09:31PM
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You know, Sully has Marchant-like hands, but it's nice to see a guy who isn't afraid to throw it at the net.

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#99 Rigger
October 10 2009, 09:31PM
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@Rigger

*sniffle* Anyone?

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#100 Archaeologuy
October 10 2009, 09:31PM
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Ice Girls commercial? I wish we had ice girls.

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