Oilers Vs. Predators: Post-Game

Jonathan Willis
October 13 2009 09:35AM

Edmonton Oilers: 6

Nashville Predators: 1

Play of the Night

Zack Stortini scored twice in the latter half of the first period to put the game out of reach for the Predators. In the first goal the Nashville had three players down low and none of them covered Stortini, who made no mistake with a quick shot from deep in the slot, but it was his second goal that stood out because he looked like a power forward barreling through two defenders and scoring on the backhand.

The Coach Is Saying…

“[Deslauriers] was our star tonight for sure.”
“We did not need to – against their best line, it’s the only line that’s got any points for them – we decide our defenceman is going to carry it into the zone and be a fancy Dan and it was certainly the wrong play because it ended up in our net. It was disappointing because our goaltender shouldn’t have had that chance against him in that situation. Nevertheless, you try to just ask your guys to live with good habits; we have a structure here, if you go away from the structure we have not been successful. Every time we’ve gone away from it the other team’s taken over.”

Fun With Numbers

  • The Oilers were outshot 41 – 20, yet won the game 6 -1
  • Nashville didn’t manage a powerplay goal, but they did manage 17 shots on six opportunities
  • The three players (Penner, Brule and Stortini) with less than ten minutes of even-strength ice-time all managed two points on the night
  • The Oilers were outshot 15 – 4 in the third period

Random Thoughts

Taylor Chorney recorded his first NHL point last night. Aside from that, it’s been a fairly miserable week for me and it was a real pleasure to come home, fire up the computer and see a 5-0 lead. What was even more fun was keeping tabs on the Calgary game; the night was really a double helping of wonderful.

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, Sportsnet, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#51 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
October 13 2009, 01:21PM
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Ogden Brother wrote:

Our defense is now scary bad (defensivly/physically). If Souray/Staios are out for an extended period of time, were going to get eaten alive by some of the bigger teams.

Strudwick seems to be doing an alright job of eating Staios' minutes.

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#52 Oilersordeath
October 13 2009, 01:24PM
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Easy decision with Pisani, like they say in Italian "Get the f%ck outta here". Why screw up the lines with his soft ass?? IN my opinion he brings nothing that isnt being brought in our lines right now!!

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#53 Ogden Brother
October 13 2009, 01:27PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

Strudwick seems to be doing an alright job of eating Staios' minutes.

It's more Chorney that I'm worried about.

Grebs/Gilbert/Vish are "ok" (defensivly) as a 2nd pairing guys, I think Smid is a quality bottom pairing guy at this point (though he hasn't looked like it yet). Struds is a an ok #7 and I suppose Chorney is an ok #8.

So realistically we've got three #3/4 dmen, a #5 a #7 and a #8 (defensivly)

Yikes.

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#54 Ogden Brother
October 13 2009, 01:28PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

Strudwick seems to be doing an alright job of eating Staios' minutes.

It's more Chorney that I'm worried about.

Grebs/Gilbert/Vish are "ok" (defensivly) as a 2nd pairing guys, I think Smid is a quality bottom pairing guy at this point (though he hasn't looked like it yet). Struds is a an ok #7 and I suppose Chorney is an ok #8.

So realistically we've got three #3/4 dmen, a #5 a #7 and a #8 (defensivly)

Yikes.

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#55 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
October 13 2009, 01:33PM
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Ogden Brother wrote:

It's more Chorney that I'm worried about.

Grebs/Gilbert/Vish are "ok" (defensivly) as a 2nd pairing guys, I think Smid is a quality bottom pairing guy at this point (though he hasn't looked like it yet). Struds is a an ok #7 and I suppose Chorney is an ok #8.

So realistically we've got three #3/4 dmen, a #5 a #7 and a #8 (defensivly)

Yikes.

I was worried when Staios was on the first pairing now we have to rely upon the other guys more. It isn't a bad thing in certain areas of the game, but in others it might hurt.

Who knows maybe Gilbert continues to play on the PK and further develops his game? Right now Smid, Gilbert and Grebs are being given a chance to step up and prove they are more then what they are pegged at, now it is up to them to take the chance.

Chicgao will be a good test for our d.

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#57 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
October 13 2009, 01:35PM
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Let's consider the Chicago game a win if we don't give up a 5-goal lead after the first period.

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#58 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
October 13 2009, 01:35PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Strudwick and Chorney - last night notwithstanding - hav one thing in common.

Neither should be in an NHL lineup on an every day basis.

Like Ogden said, Strudwick is a good #7. As for Chorney he will be overlooked last night by most as we were having a good time kick arse.

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#59 Ender
October 13 2009, 01:37PM
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blu wrote:

The only real tragedy last night was Des not getting the shutout. I think he earned one.

I guess he'll take solice in the fact that he's listed as the number 3 goalie in the league on nhl.com for save %. Bet he didn't expect that going into the season. :-)

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#60 Ogden Brother
October 13 2009, 01:37PM
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Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach wrote:

Like Ogden said, Strudwick is a good #7. As for Chorney he will be overlooked last night by most as we were having a good time kick arse.

I actually thought Chorney looked pretty good last night, but again Nashville has a paper thin offense. I'll bet he's exposed defensivly in the very near future

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#61 blu
October 13 2009, 01:43PM
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I would like to go on record about Studwick's game last night.

As a larger man, with an opportunity to body check the ever loving Herb Alpert out of more than a few members of the opposing team, he sure rolled softly up to them and just sort of maybe challenged them for the puck.

I'm devising a drill to solve this, whereby Struddy stands in the corner, and just gets drilled into the boards by Stone ... over and over and over again.

"WIPE THE BLOOD OFF YOUR HEAD AND STOP CRYING! DO YOU WANT TO THROW A CHECK NOW?"

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#62 Ender
October 13 2009, 01:44PM
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Chaz wrote:

Back to my rant about shot stats though; the fact that a hit post doesn't count as a shot just seems stupid to me so I find it hard to take those totals too seriously.

That measure actually makes sense if you think about it. The shots/saves/save% stats are all designed to work hand-in-hand, the idea being that a 'shot' is defined as any potential goal (ie. it goes in if the goalie or some other player doesn't stop it) and a 'save' is a 'shot' that doesn't become a goal. In theory, then, goals + saves = shots. In that context, if a player rings one off the post, it is a damn good attempt but the goalie didn't really need to make a 'save'; it was never a potential goal.

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#63 Mike Krushelnyski
October 13 2009, 01:52PM
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A Fancy Dan??!!!?!?!

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#64 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
October 13 2009, 01:56PM
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Ender wrote:

Chaz wrote:

Back to my rant about shot stats though; the fact that a hit post doesn't count as a shot just seems stupid to me so I find it hard to take those totals too seriously.

That measure actually makes sense if you think about it. The shots/saves/save% stats are all designed to work hand-in-hand, the idea being that a 'shot' is defined as any potential goal (ie. it goes in if the goalie or some other player doesn't stop it) and a 'save' is a 'shot' that doesn't become a goal. In theory, then, goals + saves = shots. In that context, if a player rings one off the post, it is a damn good attempt but the goalie didn't really need to make a 'save'; it was never a potential goal.

If the goalie gloved the post shot (which they should, just in case), would it not count as a save?

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#65 Woogie
October 13 2009, 02:07PM
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http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/Hernia+surgery+sidelines+Oilers+Pouliot/2097265/story.html#

Pouliot out for 8-10 weeks

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#66 blu
October 13 2009, 02:17PM
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Woogie wrote:

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/Hernia+surgery+sidelines+Oilers+Pouliot/2097265/story.html#

Pouliot out for 8-10 weeks

Our season can only be more successful!

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#67 David S
October 13 2009, 02:35PM
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Woogie wrote:

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/Hernia+surgery+sidelines+Oilers+Pouliot/2097265/story.html#

Pouliot out for 8-10 weeks

Looks like Nilsson is hitting the bar tonight!

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#68 Ender
October 13 2009, 02:43PM
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@Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things

Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

If the goalie gloved the post shot (which they should, just in case), would it not count as a save?

It becomes somewhat subjective at that point with the statistician deciding whether it would have gone in or not, but I'm guessing with something that close they would count it as a shot and a save. If the goalie snags a puck 12 inches off the right post, however, they probably wouldn't count it as either one.

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#69 BarryS
October 13 2009, 02:55PM
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Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach wrote:

So who do you pull out then? Pisani also kills penalties. The only thing that scares me about taking out anyone is Pisani is softer then most the guys on the team. Him coming back might mess up the whole run with 4 lines that we currently have going.

Nilsson is dead man walking on this team, since he is not better than MC, Gags, O'sullivan, or Gogs who are the players he has to compete for a job with. Nilsson for Pisani, Stone, JFJ, is a net loss for the team, since he is not as physical as any of them. Stauf suggested a hopelessly inoffencive team like Toronto could use him

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#70 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
October 13 2009, 03:05PM
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BarryS wrote:

Nilsson is dead man walking on this team, since he is not better than MC, Gags, O'sullivan, or Gogs who are the players he has to compete for a job with. Nilsson for Pisani, Stone, JFJ, is a net loss for the team, since he is not as physical as any of them. Stauf suggested a hopelessly inoffencive team like Toronto could use him

Nilsson isn't even playing. I'm talking about guys in the top 12.

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#71 David S
October 13 2009, 03:27PM
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Nilsson is at least as physical as Pisani, and could outscore Piani, Stone and JFJ combined if he had some minutes and decent linemates.

Pisani is the fly in the ointment here. Useful (?) when he plays, but that seems to be open for debate with this new system. Still, he's a legacy player the team seems loathe to deal away at this time, probably because of perceived fan reaction.

At the end of the day, the thing to consider is who makes your team better. And by better I mean more able to win hockey games.

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#72 Hemmertime
October 13 2009, 04:02PM
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@David S

Nilsson is at least as physical as Pisani, and could outscore Piani, Stone and JFJ combined if he had some minutes and decent linemates.

Nilsson the new Schremp?

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#73 Hemmertime
October 13 2009, 04:04PM
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@Ogden Brother

So realistically we've got three #3/4 dmen, a #5 a #7 and a #8 (defensivly)

Visnovsky is a top pairing D man, a top 15-20 D man in the NHL

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#74 Hemmertime
October 13 2009, 04:05PM
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How the Hell do you qoute. I tried blockqoute /blockqoute and /qoute

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#75 Citizen Alpha
October 13 2009, 04:07PM
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Hemmertime wrote:

How the Hell do you qoute. I tried blockqoute /blockqoute and /qoute

Try <blockquote>Quote here</blockquote>

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#76 Ogden Brother
October 13 2009, 04:14PM
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Hemmertime wrote:

So realistically we've got three #3/4 dmen, a #5 a #7 and a #8 (defensivly)

Visnovsky is a top pairing D man, a top 15-20 D man in the NHL

Not defensivly he isn't.

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#77 freeze
October 13 2009, 04:32PM
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Hahahaha; Sami 'Made of Glass' Salo is out for up to 6 weeks due to spraining medial collateral ligament in his right knee.

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#78 Ender
October 13 2009, 05:17PM
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freeze wrote:

Hahahaha; Sami 'Made of Glass' Salo is out for up to 6 weeks due to spraining medial collateral ligament in his right knee.

That would be funnier if he were the captain. Or if our version wasn't.

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#79 PRKELLO
October 14 2009, 09:50PM
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@Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things

The NHL lists Horcoff as the 77th center in the league and 5th on our team! Don't you think he would be better on the 3rd or 4th line, instead of screwing up Hempsky. McT says Hork is good defensively - so play him on a defensive line!!!!!

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