UPDATE: Souray is still out...

Jason Gregor
October 15 2009 11:22AM

UPDATE: Don't expect Sheldon Souray to return anytime soon. Pat Quinn was not very confident that Souray would be back soon. Souray met with the training staff, and according to Quinn, he didn't look good and is still a ways away from returning.

Steve Staios won't dress tomorrow either. He is closer than Staios, but after speaking with Quinn it sounds like he won't play tomorrow, and will be re-evaluated over the weekend.

No changes on the blueline, but Quinn might make a switch up front.

I asked him if he was considering switching the lines to start the game, similar to the ones we saw at the end of last night's game.

He hinted that maybe Robert Nilsson gets a look, or even Steve MacIntyre. If one of them comes in the question is who comes out? It won't be Stortini or Moreau, so would he take out a Comrie, Gagner, Stone or Jacques? Doubtful.

Many of the Nation have been wondering why Cogliano is stuck on the 4th line. Quinn pointed out that Gagner got off to a good start playing with Moreau and Stortini, and now Cogliano gets put with them and suddenly he has two goals.

Quinn went on to explain that Moreau and Stortini force their linemates to go into the tough areas, and because Gagner and Cogliano have skill, they finish when they are in those tough areas.

While Stortini and Moreau aren't blessed with natural skill like Comrie, Gagner, Cogliano, O'Sulllivan or Hemsky they go to the tough areas more often and when teamed up with some skilled guys they get results. Don't expect Quinn to split that trio up right away.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him move offensive guys in between them, with the hope that will force them to go into the tougher areas more often.

Before yesterday’s tilt Tom Renney stated, “It will be a good test to see where we are, or how far we have to go”.

Well, after last night it’s obvious they have a ways to go before they can compete with upper-echelon teams in the west. The Hawks are an elite team, and they dominated the Oilers without Marian Hossa last night.

Sheldon Souray and Steve Staios will close the gap a bit. But either the Oilers were a bit sluggish last night, or the Hawks are just a step faster.

The Hawks won the races to loose pucks, they made better passes, and they pressured the Oilers all over the ice. If Nikolai Khabibulin doesn’t stand on his head, this would have been a blow out.

The good news for the Oilers was at least they continued to hit. JF Jacques, Ryan Stone and a few others were still physical. Jacques did chase Dustin Byfuglien around the ice a shift after he hit Ales Hemsky, but in a case like that, he’d be better served getting a clean lick on Patrick Kane, Patrick Sharp or Jonathon Toews, and then Byfuglien would have to respond.

Pierre McGuire was ripping the Oilers defensive zone coverage last night, but if he had watched previous games, it's clear that the coaching staff wants them to funnel down closer to the net. Yes, they got to low at times, but they don’t want to give up the high slot. They will play the percentages that it is harder to score farther away.

No one should be surprised the Hawks were the better team, because right now they ARE the better team, and they’ve been playing their system for a full season, and they are damn good at it.

The Oilers will need to improve their passing.

It wasn’t just last night, but in many games this year, they’ve missed the simple six to eight foot passes, and those types of turnovers killed them last night. How many times were the Oilers rushing out of their zone and missed a head-man, or cross-ice pass that went to the Hawks D-man? It was too many.

Good passing starts in practice, and I’ll be curious to watch the next few practices to see how the coaches react to bad passes. Last year Nick Lidstrom explained why the Wings were so good at passing, “As players we don’t accept bad passes in practice. We demand it from each other, and you see the results in games. At this level, bad passes are unacceptable.”

Not everything falls on the coaches; sometimes the players need to police themselves. Errant passes are one of the biggest momentum killers in the game, and the Oilers need to stop giving the puck away through missed passes.

Other observations

The Andrew Cogliano, Zack Stortini and Ethan Moreau line was the most effective all night. For those who think Moreau can’t skate, wake up. Skating is not an issue with the captain; never has been.

I said it last year, and I’ll continue to say it, Cogliano has better finish than he’s given credit for. I think it is only a matter of time before he forces the coach’s hand to give him top-six minutes. His speed allows him to create chances, and at some point I’d like to see him on the PP.

Pat Quinn switched the lines trying to find a spark, and it almost worked. I’m still stunned at how this team can score one goal, and then all of a sudden they have confidence. Ales Hemsky had a glorious chance ten seconds after the Dustin Penner goal, and the Oilers were much better in the final eight minutes of the game, but they still deserved to lose.

Speaking of Penner, the big man is showing no signs of slowing down. He is consistently using his size advantage to fend off defenders, and it might be time to put him with Shawn Horcoff and Hemsky.

I like Jacques’ game to this point, but it is clear Penner will create more offence, and so far Hemsky and Horcoff haven’t done much.

The Oilers have an optional practice at noon today, so we won’t see any lines at practice today, but I’ll update you on the status of Staios and Souray later.

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#51 pmg2
October 15 2009, 01:32PM
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With Hemsky and Horcoff still essentially stuck in neutral --- with the Oil being outshot 114 to 50 something in the last 3 games -- with the "honor" system in responding to their players being hit , instead of tit for tat , ...I'm afraid the Oil will once again be battling for the last playoff spot if at all. Mark my words people ! ....and as for Hemsky, ...well he's not going to reach another level as some press and pundits in this town are willing to forecast. He "has" reached his potential. The only way this team will improve consistently in addition to changing by Quinn's philosophy, is to make another personnel move or two. Then they'll truly be worth watching to do at least some damage in the playoffs.

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#52 Brandon
October 15 2009, 01:32PM
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@Ogden Brother

Ok I'm all for writing it off as a slow start but when Grebs is out scoring 2/3 of that line it's time to light a fire under them....eg. Gagner look how long it took him to get started last year, Quinn makes him earn his ice time and he plays inspired, just saying....

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#53 BK16
October 15 2009, 01:32PM
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Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach wrote:

Strudwick has what was previously know as Jason Smith syndrome. As for Hemsky he had stretches like this last year, only concern is one would think with a new coach he would put an effort in.

I agree, but when is Hemsky going to become that point a game player we all have been waiting for? We're not a good enough team to tolerate him being just ok, he needs to become a star.

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#54 Ogden Brother
October 15 2009, 01:33PM
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MJSH wrote:

World of difference between the this team and last years. Last year's team just gave up. That is why Chicago blew them out last year. This group is not as good as Chicago, but there they were almost tying the game late. There has been a heart transplant to this team.

You think it was the team "not giving up" that kept last night from becoming a blowout? I'd say it was luck and a strong game from Bulin.

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#55 Oil Fever
October 15 2009, 01:34PM
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Brandon wrote:

Anyone else feel it is time to split up Horcoff and Hemsky? I mean Gagner had to earn his ice at the beginning of the year shouldn't Horcoff have to do the same?

Totally agree! He's NOT the best we have to offer in the face-off circle, He's always slow getting back to the players box or back into the play, and he doesn't hit.

Is he dating K-Lowes daughter or something??? LOL

But then again...who would ever be so simple to make a try to obtain him from us? (cap)

We are stuck with him! :(

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#56 Brandon
October 15 2009, 01:43PM
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Oil Fever wrote:

Totally agree! He's NOT the best we have to offer in the face-off circle, He's always slow getting back to the players box or back into the play, and he doesn't hit.

Is he dating K-Lowes daughter or something??? LOL

But then again...who would ever be so simple to make a try to obtain him from us? (cap)

We are stuck with him! :(

The way he plays is not worth the $7 mil salary($5.5 cap hit) we are giving him, he had one good offensive season and got rewarded with a truck full of money, and yes unfortunately we are stuck with him, Thank You Mr. Lowe

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#57 I'm a Scientist!
October 15 2009, 01:43PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

Edit button:

~Are you suggesting we fire Quinn? It's a little early, don't you think?~

I realize you are being sarcastic, but i just want to state that i do not want to fire Quinn... i like what he has done so far and I am excited to see what else happens!

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#58 Ogden Brother
October 15 2009, 01:46PM
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Brandon wrote:

The way he plays is not worth the $7 mil salary($5.5 cap hit) we are giving him, he had one good offensive season and got rewarded with a truck full of money, and yes unfortunately we are stuck with him, Thank You Mr. Lowe

2 good offensive seasons.

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#59 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
October 15 2009, 01:49PM
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I'm a Scientist! wrote:

I realize you are being sarcastic, but i just want to state that i do not want to fire Quinn... i like what he has done so far and I am excited to see what else happens!

Hehe. I just found it interesting that the message we want to send to Quinn is that -no one- is safe. That's enough to put a guy on edge!

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#60 Brandon
October 15 2009, 01:52PM
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Ogden Brother wrote:

2 good offensive seasons.

yeah one 2 seasons ago and one 4 seasons ago

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#61 VK63
October 15 2009, 02:01PM
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... the oil are deep in "puck moving" defencemen who have tremendous difficulty making an outlet pass (to an oil forward) thus stalling the movement of the puck..... naturally assuming that the chosen result is puck to their net rather than ours.......

that symptom and associated label (puck moving) is either ironic or an oxymoron.....

confused in who(e)ville

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#62 Ogden Brother
October 15 2009, 02:11PM
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As mentioned by someone else, I think the biggest problem from last night is that Edmonton just doesn't match up well with Chicago, they are very similar teams (in make-up) only the hawks similar players are all superior to their Oiler conter parts.

Hossa > Hemsky Toews > Cogs Kane > Gagner Sharp > Horc Buff > Penner (might change this year) Versteg > O'sully Madden > Brule Ladd > JFJ Boland > Moreau

Kieth > Souray Campble > Vish (though not by a tonne) Seabrook > Gilbert Barker > Grebs

I'd say the only place we have the advantage is goaltending, and even that is debatable.

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#63 Ogden Brother
October 15 2009, 02:12PM
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Ogden Brother wrote:

As mentioned by someone else, I think the biggest problem from last night is that Edmonton just doesn't match up well with Chicago, they are very similar teams (in make-up) only the hawks similar players are all superior to their Oiler conter parts.

Hossa > Hemsky Toews > Cogs Kane > Gagner Sharp > Horc Buff > Penner (might change this year) Versteg > O'sully Madden > Brule Ladd > JFJ Boland > Moreau

Kieth > Souray Campble > Vish (though not by a tonne) Seabrook > Gilbert Barker > Grebs

I'd say the only place we have the advantage is goaltending, and even that is debatable.

Yikes, that isn't how I wanted it formated....

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#64 MattL
October 15 2009, 02:22PM
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@Ogden Brother

I'm with you other than Keith > Souray. I'll actually take Souray and Vish over Keith and Campbell. Other than that though, yeah, they're better in almost every respect.

You forgot Bowman > Anybody in the Oilers' organization.

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#65 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
October 15 2009, 02:24PM
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@Ogden Brother

Take Hossa out because he wasn't there last night, but if he was I could imagine how much worse it could've been.

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#66 PattQuinn'sChesthair
October 15 2009, 02:32PM
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@Brandon

Brandon, you're not the first person to do it, just the most recent so I'll pick on you:

I am so sick of people using the $7 million figure to over state the under performance of Shawn Horcoff. I know, I know, you used the cap hit as well, but really, the only person who should give a crap about the 7 million being paid this season is Kay-Z. And I'm sure as an owner, he is not impressed.

As a fan I can understand wanting to see the highest paid players earn their keep, but to use the 7 mill figure is pure garbage. We're better than that here at the nation.

Just sayin.

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#67 David S
October 15 2009, 02:34PM
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@ Ogden - I think you hit it square on in post # 62.

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#68 stilldrinkingthekoolaid
October 15 2009, 02:35PM
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Here we go eating our young once more. Hemmer is on pace right now for 69 points. I can only imagine things improving as the team continues to gel.Leave Penner where he is, it's working so why screw it up. Jacques is coming along and Horcoff works too hard to continue his slump much longer. This team and coaching staff has 6 games under their belts,PATIENCE PEOPLE

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#69 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
October 15 2009, 02:38PM
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@Ogden Brother

I'm with DavidL on this one. I don't think Keith > Souray. As far as the forwards go, though, you're bang-on.

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#70 Chaz
October 15 2009, 02:43PM
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I'm a Scientist! wrote:

I am confused. Why is everyone suggesting we move Horcoff down, and NOBODY is suggesting we move Hemsky down? I haven't seen him do anything this year... time to light a fire under his ass by putting him on the 4th line. Send a message Quinn...NOBODY is safe!

*hides under his desk because NOBODY is safe*

...um, I suggested we move him down or even skratch him for a game in comment #42. I think I've seen a few others suggest the same.

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#71 Ogden Brother
October 15 2009, 02:52PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

I'm with DavidL on this one. I don't think Keith > Souray. As far as the forwards go, though, you're bang-on.

It is a tough call, bt Keith has been mentioned as a serious candidate for team Canada...Souray isn't. Lets also keep in mind that Souray has only had 2 elite years at what? 33 years of age?

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#72 Deke Rivers
October 15 2009, 02:58PM
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Time to trade Hemsky. He has a high value, and the team and fans have invested heavily into him. I know in our house I'm the only Hemsky fan. Perhaps it takes an unbiased observation to point out that he is selfish with the puck, pouts, hasn't bought into the system, this will be year 345 we'll be waiting for him to be a star. We have at 4 potential stars that will be eligible next year to join our existing young talent, is hemskys minutes, defensive issues, etc worth it. Perhaps it's not Horcoff that's the problem, or if Horcoff isn't a number 1 center, can we get any better if Hemsky is our #1 player. Great players make others look good, that's not Hemsky. Package him up now, get the power forward we want, and let's move up a level.

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#73 Brandon
October 15 2009, 02:59PM
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PattQuinn'sChesthair wrote:

Brandon, you're not the first person to do it, just the most recent so I'll pick on you:

I am so sick of people using the $7 million figure to over state the under performance of Shawn Horcoff. I know, I know, you used the cap hit as well, but really, the only person who should give a crap about the 7 million being paid this season is Kay-Z. And I'm sure as an owner, he is not impressed.

As a fan I can understand wanting to see the highest paid players earn their keep, but to use the 7 mill figure is pure garbage. We're better than that here at the nation.

Just sayin.

Ok then why does it seem like he has automatic 1st line ice time? If everyone else on the team was not guaranteed the ice they thought they would be getting then why is Horcoff? It would make the most sense to think he is on that line because of the salary, and that is why I brought it up, also if a player is getting paid that kind of money and is not putting up points is simply ridiculous, IMO that money could have been spent somewhere else, like maybe a top line LW but instead it's spent on a guy who is trying to play outside of his skill set and it's not looking good for him.

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#74 Hemmertime
October 15 2009, 03:00PM
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Quinn is from the school of negative feedback. I just hope his criticism of Hemsky turns him into a better player and not a member of another team.

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#75 I'm a Scientist!
October 15 2009, 03:03PM
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@Chaz

...um, I suggested we move him down or even skratch him for a game in comment #42. I think I've seen a few others suggest the same.

Whoops! Sorry Chaz, I missed that one. I think it went up while i was writing my comment in between stints of actually doing work.

Most of the posts I have read on here just jump right to trading him, which is rediculous.

Either way, glad we agree...

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#76 Ogden Brother
October 15 2009, 03:04PM
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Deke Rivers wrote:

Time to trade Hemsky. He has a high value, and the team and fans have invested heavily into him. I know in our house I'm the only Hemsky fan. Perhaps it takes an unbiased observation to point out that he is selfish with the puck, pouts, hasn't bought into the system, this will be year 345 we'll be waiting for him to be a star. We have at 4 potential stars that will be eligible next year to join our existing young talent, is hemskys minutes, defensive issues, etc worth it. Perhaps it's not Horcoff that's the problem, or if Horcoff isn't a number 1 center, can we get any better if Hemsky is our #1 player. Great players make others look good, that's not Hemsky. Package him up now, get the power forward we want, and let's move up a level.

If Kovalchuk refuses to re-sign in Atl, Hemsky and his contract could be an interesting piece for the Thrashers to look at.

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#77 Ogden Brother
October 15 2009, 03:13PM
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Brandon wrote:

Ok then why does it seem like he has automatic 1st line ice time? If everyone else on the team was not guaranteed the ice they thought they would be getting then why is Horcoff? It would make the most sense to think he is on that line because of the salary, and that is why I brought it up, also if a player is getting paid that kind of money and is not putting up points is simply ridiculous, IMO that money could have been spent somewhere else, like maybe a top line LW but instead it's spent on a guy who is trying to play outside of his skill set and it's not looking good for him.

Because up until this point the team has outscored the opposition at a far better clip when Horc is with Hemsky compared to Hemsky on the ice without Horc.

Also, from the teams previous track record, it should be abundantly clear that spending the $$ better elsewhere would be a tough, tough task.

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#78 Reagan
October 15 2009, 03:20PM
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It was clear that the Oiler need some work to compete with the NHL elite this year. Barring a miracle, Horcoff, Hemsky need to sharpen those proverbial pencils. If it wasn't for Khabi the Oilers would have seen a 7 or 8 to 1 score.

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#79 Hemmertime
October 15 2009, 03:36PM
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@Brandon

Horc is maybe a 1 mil overpayment. Get over it, if you added Frolov and subtracted Horc we would be a worse team. He is a needed presence on our team - though I would like to see it in 3.5-4.5 mil range on second or third line with a Bona-fide #1 but alas not possible. Alot of players of his caliber are in that range. Fisher and Morrow - 4.2 and 4.1 respectively, and Id take Horc over both

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#80 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
October 15 2009, 03:39PM
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Hemmertime wrote:

Horc is maybe a 1 mil overpayment. Get over it, if you added Frolov and subtracted Horc we would be a worse team. He is a needed presence on our team - though I would like to see it in 3.5-4.5 mil range on second or third line with a Bona-fide #1 but alas not possible. Alot of players of his caliber are in that range. Fisher and Morrow - 4.2 and 4.1 respectively, and Id take Horc over both

The worse thing about horcoff is he is a one mil overpayment now, how much will he be when his contract is coming to an end?

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#81 Ogden Brother
October 15 2009, 03:46PM
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Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach wrote:

The worse thing about horcoff is he is a one mil overpayment now, how much will he be when his contract is coming to an end?

The cap should start to rise at a resonsonable level again following next year.

Assume 8% growth over the last 5 years of his contract would put the cap 84 million, which would be equivalent to a 3.6 million player today.

....lets hope he keeps in shape.

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#82 Chaz
October 15 2009, 03:56PM
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I'm a Scientist! wrote:
...um, I suggested we move him down or even skratch him for a game in comment #42. I think I've seen a few others suggest the same.

Whoops! Sorry Chaz, I missed that one. I think it went up while i was writing my comment in between stints of actually doing work.

Most of the posts I have read on here just jump right to trading him, which is rediculous.

Either way, glad we agree...

No problem IAS. I think the important thing here is that the coaching staff hold everyone on the team accountable. Others may pencil Horcs and Hemsky in as automatics on our top line, but I don't necessarily think they deserve it. In my opinion they have been losing the momentum during their shifts and causing more giveaways than our 4th line lately. That either says our first line has to be better or that our 4th line is amazing. With all due respect to Storts et al, I fear it is the former.

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#83 Lofty
October 15 2009, 04:09PM
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How would the oilers pay Kovy, pay horc 5.5, sign the RFA's, and stay under the cap? Unless Tambo can magicly dump horcoff, Nilson, Pisani, Moreau, and trade one of the expensive d-men, not much is going to change.

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#84 BigE57
October 15 2009, 04:11PM
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I like what Penner has been doing playing on the second or third line. I know he came to camp in shape and is motiviated but is his resurgence partially to do with not playing with Horcoff and Hemsky. To me those guys haven't really "clicked" at all so far while Penner has seemed to make the most out of whomever he plays with.

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#85 The Real Scuba Steve
October 15 2009, 04:22PM
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We still need to get a sniper ASAP.

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#86 David S
October 15 2009, 04:23PM
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Tom Renney Yesterday: “It will be a good test to see where we are, or how far we have to go”.

Tom Renney today: "Whoa!"

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#87 Skidrow Gutterbum
October 15 2009, 04:56PM
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The Real Scuba Steve wrote:

We still need to get a sniper ASAP.

As much as I'd like to land a sniper, I think what's needed more at this point is a tough,nasty,mean SOB stay at home d-man in his prime to clear the front of the net on the PK.

Goalscoring by commitee may continue, maybe not, but the goals against have to come down and I cant fault the goaltending so far this season for that problem.

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#88 jeanshorts
October 15 2009, 05:14PM
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I just wanted to let everyone know that I just joined the ON/Team 1260 hockey pool and I'm already one point up on Wanye.

EAT THAT GRETZ!

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#89 Bryant
October 15 2009, 05:36PM
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Hey Jason today on your radio show you gave a web site address for a hockey pool. I did not catch it could you throw it up here. Or anyone else who herd him earlier. Thanks in advance

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#90 Librarian Mike
October 15 2009, 05:47PM
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Cool. I just signed up for the pool, and I'm not even in last place.

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#91 Librarian Mike
October 15 2009, 05:55PM
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...but I'm dropping by the second.

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#93 RossCreekNation
October 15 2009, 06:28PM
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@Ogden Brother

Your having a good day today OB, I'm in agreement with most, if not all of what you've said. You know what they say - "there's nothing like the original".

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#94 RossCreekNation
October 15 2009, 06:30PM
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from http://blogs2.startribune.com/blogs/wildblog/2009/10/15/no-czechs/

Just landed in Edmonton. Got an email from PR guru Ryan Stanzel. All three Wild Czech players missed practice today. Havlat and Sykora with groins, Zidlicky with what was called a maintenance day. Wild hasn’t called up any forwards, so if they don’t and Havlat and Sykora can’t play, Derek Boogaard will have to return. If Zidlicky can’t play, we may see Jaime Sifers’ debut.

Another team stroll's thru eTown without their superstar. ~Big surprise~

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#95 Librarian Mike
October 15 2009, 06:35PM
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@RossCreekNation

Another team stroll's thru eTown without their superstar. ~Big surprise~

~What are you talking about? Boogaard's playing.~

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#96 RossCreekNation
October 15 2009, 06:48PM
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@Librarian Mike

hAHa

...and prob MacIntyre too

:-S

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#97 RossCreekNation
October 15 2009, 07:19PM
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MacT just said that the Oilers tried to get Milan Michalek from San Jose in a Pronger trade. Mac's high on him.

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#98 roadrunner
October 15 2009, 07:43PM
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The one thing I noticed about the game and Coach Quinn made reference to it in the post game on CHED is the individual play. Too many individuals on this team right now. Gregor points out the Hawks being a better club last night in a number of areas, but it all comes back to a team concept.

Numerous times the Blackhawks came up ice as a unit with a steady 5 man rush. If they lost the puck, they collectively worked to regain possesion. We don't see that effort from the Oil as of yet.

The 'Hawks won due to better team play, not due to skill, speed or scheme. They play a team game. From the blueline to the forwards, when they advance up ice they stay in lanes and work towards getting passes not standing still.

Puck support is what the Oil lack right now. I'm not sure if thats due to the coaching change, philosophy or old habits but it'll come in time. Hopefully sooner than later.

And Gregor instead of pointing out glaring flaws of JFJacques chasing guys around the ice, recognize the fact these kids are willing to do things others on the team haven't been doing for years. They're supporting their team mates for once. Its called making a name for yourself. You spent time in the trenches at one point making a name so give your surmon a rest man.

You mock the Couch Coaching but you're no better. Nothing worse than a hypocryte.

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#99 Mustardtiger
October 15 2009, 07:58PM
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gonna have to disagree with you about slotting Dustin Penner alongside ales hemsky and horcoff.

If those two players cant create offence by themselves then i would have to say its obvious that Ales Hemsky isnt the player oilers fans thinks he is. It might be time to move on, trade him while he still has some value.

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#100 BarryS
October 15 2009, 08:04PM
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The Real Scuba Steve wrote:

We still need to get a sniper ASAP.

When will you all realize the downside of the cap world is once you sign up players your lineup is fixed until:

1. Contracts run out.

2. Someone on your team retires.

3. Your own looses his mind and allows the sending of a multi-million dollar player to the minors.

4. Some fool like birkie trades 2 first round draft picks for one of your injured players.

5. The reason some teams have cap room is the owner can not spend money because he(they) are broke or going there.

6. Players with cap room don't have very good players that's why they have room.

7. Players used to be meat, now their notations on a ledger and skill no longer matters only their number in the ledger.

8. Teams willing to make trades want less cap hit back then more. (i.e. Forget trying to trade anyone making more than 3 Mill. cap hit)

9. Mike Milberry is no longer a g.m. and Garth Snow spent all his money on three starting goaltenders.

10. Any player worth trading for probably has either a no trade or a wife who won;t let him move there.

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