GDB VII: Sans Hemsky

Jason Gregor
October 16 2009 12:07PM

Happy frickin' Friday to you. My day started out just peachy when I was dinged by the fuzz for speeding. They sure picked the perfect spot: Edmonton's scenic 66th St and 36th Ave, just as you sped up the hill.

I have all the respect for the Police, and no doubt I was speeding, but this officer riled me up. I’ve been pulled over many times, and once I’m stopped I reach into the glove box and grab my insurance and registration. I believe in getting it over with as quick as possible.

So Mr. Patrolman knocks on the window, I power my window down and I’m greeted with this:

“Jason do you know you were going 81 in a 60 zone?”

I look up and have no clue who this guy is, but he knows my name. I do have the Kia logoed up with a TEAM 1260 logo, so it’s not hard to put two and two together.

Once he said my name he gave me a glimmer of hope that I might get off, or at least get a reduction. Nope, he just threw that out there to add insult to injury. I have no problem taking my lumps and paying the ticket, but next time, coppers, don't tease with the possibility or a reduction.

As a side thought, I wonder how many guys have been let go with a warning after being pulled over for speeding, because almost every hot girl I know has had one freebie?

Hemsky out

Even though he hasn’t played well to date, a team never wants their most skilled guy out of the lineup, but that’s the case tonight. Ales Hemsky is out with an undisclosed injury and Robert Nilsson will draw in.

Pat Quinn will put Mike Comrie on the left side, with Nilsson on the right of Shawn Horcoff. Horcoff left the morning skate and returned at the end, to try a different padding in his skates. Horcoff’s right foot is swollen after blocking a shot in Chicago, and the swelling is right where he ties up his skates. He was noticeably uncomfortable this morning, and admitted that it really bothers him to push off hard on his right foot.

Ken Lowe will be working to come up with something to relieve the pressure by game time.

Ethan Moreau, Andrew Cogliano and Zack Stortini will be another line, but after that it’s up in the air.

You could see JF Jacques with Sam Gagner and Patrick O’Sullivan, and Dustin Penner with Gilbert Brule and Ryan Stone. Or maybe Quinn puts Stone and Jacques with Gagner with the hope they have the same success as Moreau, Cogliano and Stortini.

No Havlat?

Many wondered who would get hurt first, Marian Gaborik or Martin Havlat, and if you picked Havlat you are the winner. Gaborik did miss some preseason games, but he has been on fire in the regular season. Havlat has five points in five games for the Wild, but he wasn’t on the ice this morning, and word is he won’t play.

Petr Sykora also didn’t skate and is out.

The Wild only have 12 goals in five games so far and right now only Marek Zidlicky and Shane Hnidy are + players. Seven of their 12 goals have come on the powerplay, and once again the Wild’s special teams are both in the top ten.

Their PP is 6th at 28% and their PK is 9th at 83.3%, but they can’t score five-on-five.

Eric Belanger leads them with two goals and seven points, while Andrew Brunette has four goals and six points. The Wild only have four players with three or more points, while the Oilers have ten with 3+ points.

The Wild are 0-4 on the road so far, and the Oilers were talking about the importance of a good start tonight.

The Wild will dress both 6’7” Derek Boogaard, and 6’8” Johnny Scott, so Zack Stortini could have his hands full tonight.

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One of Canada's most versatile sports personalities. Jason hosts The Jason Gregor Show, weekdays from 2 to 6 p.m., on TSN 1260, and he writes a column every Monday in the Edmonton Journal. You can follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/JasonGregor
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#201 The Towel Boy
October 16 2009, 09:16PM
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I don't know how they'll continue to win games by getting outshot all season...but I'll take the wins whent they come.

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#202 Rigger
October 16 2009, 09:16PM
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BRULE x 2!

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#203 Rigger
October 16 2009, 09:19PM
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I don't wanna see Moreau on the PP, I just don't.

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#204 Librarian Mike
October 16 2009, 09:20PM
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Rigger wrote:

I don't wanna see Moreau on the PP, I just don't.

Well, he can't play on the PK because he's the one in the box. Duh. ;)

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#205 The Towel Boy
October 16 2009, 09:21PM
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So, if that was Brule's second goal tonight...did they change the Ryan Stone goal from earlier to Brule's?

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#206 jeanshorts
October 16 2009, 09:22PM
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@The Towel Boy

Yeah, unfortunately. Although now it gives him a chance to get a pretty one.

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#207 Rigger
October 16 2009, 09:22PM
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Ok, I'm listening to the Minny feed and they said Moreau was on for the PP, clearly they are on drugs.

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#208 Librarian Mike
October 16 2009, 09:24PM
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Penner scores 2 and now he's beaking at Mongo. Dayum!

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#209 Gerald R. Ford
October 16 2009, 09:24PM
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Boogaard! Grrr!

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#210 Rigger
October 16 2009, 09:26PM
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Wooooo! A win the day before my b'day. Let's all get drunk.

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#211 BigE57
October 16 2009, 09:26PM
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I missed the play what did Boogard do now?

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#212 Archaeologuy
October 16 2009, 09:27PM
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You guys think Penner was misused and mistreated under MacT or is it all about him cutting back on the beers over summer, because he is producing like a man possessed. Where has this guy been for the last 2 years?

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#213 jeanshorts
October 16 2009, 09:27PM
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We win!!! WE WIN!! WHOOP WHOOOOP!

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#214 Librarian Mike
October 16 2009, 09:27PM
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@Rigger

Happy Birthday. Have a nice 19th!

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#215 RossCreekNation
October 16 2009, 09:28PM
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Wow..... Flames in midst of another collapse. FfffffffffftttT!

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#216 Rigger
October 16 2009, 09:28PM
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@Archaeologuy

I'm gonna say it's a bit of both, but mostly the former.

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#217 Rigger
October 16 2009, 09:29PM
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@Librarian Mike

Thanks, sadly it's the 31st. I wish I was that young.

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#218 Gerald R. Ford
October 16 2009, 09:29PM
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@ BigE57

Went after O'Sullivan's knee, and gave Rod Phillips an a near aneurysm.

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#219 Hemmertime
October 16 2009, 09:30PM
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Atta boy Penner

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#220 BigE57
October 16 2009, 09:32PM
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@Gerald R. Ford

Thanks, classy guy that Boogard, he should be checing ID at a strip joint.

Hopefully Rod is ok, I can't imagine Oiler games without him calling penalties from the press box........ BIG WIN!

Atta go Penner!

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#221 Kieso
October 16 2009, 09:33PM
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I think it was a bit of a combination of the both for Penner. He did not come in shape to play before this year. MacT did give him tons of opportunities but got way to frustrated with him. I also think he finally did listen and got in shape but I think if MacT was still the coach he would not have come to camp in shape.

In any case this could be a very nice twist of karma if Penner is worth his contract for the final years and Toronto gives up a lottery pick. That would make my hockey year!!

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#222 Librarian Mike
October 16 2009, 09:37PM
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@Kieso

In any case this could be a very nice twist of karma if Penner is worth his contract for the final years and Toronto gives up a lottery pick. That would make my hockey year!!

Throw in Brent and Daryl Sutter getting into a fistfight at their end-of-season presser explaining why the Flames missed the playoffs, and THAT would make my year.

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#223 smiliegirl15
October 16 2009, 09:39PM
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Penner's performance this season is exactly why MacT had to go!!! Yay Penner!!!

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#224 GSC
October 16 2009, 09:39PM
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I love Crust, with Penner Butter.

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#225 6 ring circus
October 16 2009, 09:42PM
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Penner has been on the pk,pp and played with different linemates and played awesome,If Mac T was the coach Penner would have been hard pressed to make the team.It is becoming pretty apparent as to what was holding Penner back and the coachs also put the A on his jersey tonight for good measure.

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#226 RossCreekNation
October 16 2009, 09:44PM
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What were the lines tonite? And what was with the Euro salute at the end?

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#227 Andrew
October 16 2009, 09:45PM
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After tonight's game and the way this season and last season went I don't think they necessarily need Hemsky. With Penner, Horcoff, Comrie, O'Sullivan, Gagner, Cogliano, Nilsson, Jacques, Stone, and Brule being able to take up the top 9 forward spots I think the Oilers should move Hemsky for a goal scorer or at least a guy who drives the net well. The Oilers have a decent playmaking team. Comrie, O'Sullivan, Gagner, and Cogliano are all able to create offense. Also at a 4M cap hit he's affordable.

What are the chances the Oilers can move Hemsky for RJ Umberger in Columbus. Hemsky dishing the puck to Nash would look good for them and Umberger would give the Oilers size and grit with some decent hands as Umberger is a legitimate 25 goal scorer who offers intangibles that Hemsky just doesn't. Hemsky is too one dimensional for a guy who only puts in 60-70pts a year. The only way that you can afford to be one dimensional is if you're amazing at that one dimension like Heatley or Kovalchuk. But when Hemsky isn't scoring he is useless because he doesn't hit, can't play defensive hockey, can't play PK. Umberger would at least give us more net presence.

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#228 VicOiler
October 16 2009, 09:46PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

What were the lines tonite? And what was with the Euro salute at the end?

they have been doing that at the end of all home wins I think.

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#229 BarryS
October 16 2009, 09:48PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

What were the lines tonite? And what was with the Euro salute at the end?

It seems to be a new thing to win over the fans after a win. I have it figured, all the shots from the outside are to pad Khabby's stats to make up for all the own goals in the first couple games. ;}

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#230 RossCreekNation
October 16 2009, 09:49PM
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@Andrew

Need to get something more than just Umberger IMO. Gotta be better deals out there... not that I'm suggesting they should move him... but I'm not not suggesting it.

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#231 kieso
October 16 2009, 09:50PM
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-- Andrew

It is only 10pm hardcore beverage consumption should not occur until 1 am if you pace yourself correctly.

Sorry to sound harsh but really now. Lets get rid of the most talented forward who can get 60-70 pts per year consistently with a good cap hit. I don`t think so...

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#232 Archaeologuy
October 16 2009, 09:51PM
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@Andrew

Umberger is not a legit 25 goal scorer, he has done it 1 time in his career, not exactly legit. Trading Heamky forUmberger is a major downgrade in talent. Up to this point Hemsky has 5 points in 6 games, and while not dominant he has been producing well enough despite Horcoff weighing down the top line. Lets not give up on the best contract and most consistent producer on the team because the Oilers won a single game against a bad team without him.

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#233 BarryS
October 16 2009, 09:51PM
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@Andrew

What are the chances the Oilers can move Hemsky for RJ Umberger in Columbus. Hemsky dishing the puck to Nash would look good for them and Umberger would give the Oilers size and grit with some decent hands as Umberger is a legitimate 25 goal scorer who offers intangibles that Hemsky just doesn't

Unless you can quote contract lengths, cap hits, cap room per team, not a chance. Points mean nothing in the new NHL only accounting.

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#234 RossCreekNation
October 16 2009, 09:51PM
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Fight fans...

... a 2-fer...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj7gb9AKE_w

Sit down Darcy, sit down.

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#235 R Kenny
October 16 2009, 09:52PM
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@Andrew

What are the chances? 100%. Because any GM would give up Umberger for Hemsky.

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#236 Archaeologuy
October 16 2009, 09:59PM
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Do you guys realize that if Penner keeps up this pace it would see him score 105 points and 59 goals?

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#237 RossCreekNation
October 16 2009, 10:01PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Do you guys realize that if Penner keeps up this pace it would see him score 105 points and 59 goals?

Easy there ;-)

Penner - 35G, 34A

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#238 Archaeologuy
October 16 2009, 10:02PM
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@RossCreekNation

Dont worry, i havent lost my mind due to acute penneritis, I'm just sayin.

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#239 Oilchange64
October 16 2009, 10:19PM
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Just got home from watching the game in the bar. Couldn't hear the commentary but looks to me that the karma is starting to even out. Getting outshot that bad last couple of wins makes up for a couple of losses earlier that should have been wins. Not going to bitch about a 5-2 win but there is still a ways to go. Entertaining game, bar was fun.

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#240 BigE57
October 16 2009, 10:27PM
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@Archaeologuy

MacT will start leaving nasty messages on Penners phone before that happens.......

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#241 Archaeologuy
October 16 2009, 10:31PM
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BigE57 wrote:

MacT will start leaving nasty messages on Penners phone before that happens.......

I just had images of Happy Gilmore flash in my head.

"You're never gonna make this putt, just like you never made it into the NHL!"

"Hey Horcoff, you wanna go to Sizzler? My treat."

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#242 Librarian Mike
October 16 2009, 10:38PM
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@Archaeologuy

Thanks, Arch. Now I've got an image of MacT driving onto the ice and running Penner down as he moves in on his 50th goal.

I can't stand Adam Sandler, but damn is Happy Gilmore ever a fine, fine film.

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#243 Archaeologuy
October 16 2009, 10:44PM
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Librarian Mike wrote:

Thanks, Arch. Now I've got an image of MacT driving onto the ice and running Penner down as he moves in on his 50th goal.

I can't stand Adam Sandler, but damn is Happy Gilmore ever a fine, fine film.

Well its not like he hasnt done it before...

*raises eyebrow at his own comment before he presses "Post Comment"

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#244 BigE57
October 16 2009, 11:02PM
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@Archaeologuy

Hopefully Penner puts his 50th in off of Boogaard (Frankensteins) face.

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#245 Ogden Brother
October 16 2009, 11:06PM
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BarryS wrote:

What are the chances the Oilers can move Hemsky for RJ Umberger in Columbus. Hemsky dishing the puck to Nash would look good for them and Umberger would give the Oilers size and grit with some decent hands as Umberger is a legitimate 25 goal scorer who offers intangibles that Hemsky just doesn't

Unless you can quote contract lengths, cap hits, cap room per team, not a chance. Points mean nothing in the new NHL only accounting.

Your getting a little carried away with your cap analysis.

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#246 Ogden Brother
October 16 2009, 11:07PM
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So at what point do all the guys from last year/the summer that wanted Penner in the minors come clean?

Also, when does Lowe start getting props for the signing?

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#247 Ogden Brother
October 16 2009, 11:09PM
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6 ring circus wrote:

Penner has been on the pk,pp and played with different linemates and played awesome,If Mac T was the coach Penner would have been hard pressed to make the team.It is becoming pretty apparent as to what was holding Penner back and the coachs also put the A on his jersey tonight for good measure.

How about you actually give some credit to a guy that re-commited himself to his career?

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#248 Jamie B.
October 16 2009, 11:52PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Well its not like he hasnt done it before...

*raises eyebrow at his own comment before he presses "Post Comment"

I'm going to hell for laughing. Oh, but I did ...

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#249 BarryS
October 17 2009, 12:05AM
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Ogden Brother wrote:

Your getting a little carried away with your cap analysis.

So why have there been no team generated trades of major players then, only player driven ones?

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#250 Ogden Brother
October 17 2009, 12:23AM
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BarryS wrote:

So why have there been no team generated trades of major players then, only player driven ones?

Unless we are missing something, Pronger was team driven.

Yes the transations (major) have been slower the last three months, but that's temporary.

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