GDB XII: Stopping a snowball

Jason Gregor
October 27 2009 01:47PM

The Oilers will try to stop a two game losing streak versus North West opponents tonight, when the surprising Colorado Avalanche come to town.

The Avs are 8-1-2 this year, and 4-1-2 on the road and overall they are averaging 3.4 goals per game, and giving up only 2.2 The Avs are similar to the Oilers in that they have consistently been out shot.

Shots by Period:

 

1st period

2nd period

3rd period

Avs
79
119
81
Avs' opposition
125
114
133
Oilers
91
87
90
Oil's opposition
113
132
120

The Oilers have been a bit better in shot differential the past few games, but they lost both of those.

Mike Comrie returns to the lineup tonight and here is how they practiced this morning.

Penner — Gagner — Hemsky
Comrie — Horcoff — O’Sullivan
Jacques — Brule — Nilsson
Moreau —Cogliano — Stortini

Gilbert — Grebeshkov
Smid — Visnovsky
Strudwick — Chorney

Fernando Pisani skated with the team for the first time in almost a month, but he needs a few more practices before he is ready. He could make his debut in Boston on Saturday or Long Island on Monday.

When they do activate him, they will probably put Souray on retroactive LTIR in order to have enough cap space to activate Pisani.

The suggestion that the Avs are coming back to earth is off-base at this point. They haven’t lost a game in regulation since Oct 8th, and since then they have won six and lost in OT in Minnesota.

The Avs have beaten the Wings twice in the last week, and they also have wins over the Bruins and Sharks this season. Their special teams have been great so far.

They are 7th on the PP with 12 goals in 45 chances for 26.7%, and their PK is 6th at 84.3%, and they were a perfect 8-8 on the PK v. Detroit this past Saturday.

Craig Anderson has played in all eleven games for the Avs and his .936 SV % and 2.14 GGA are both in the top ten. The Oilers will have to get him moving side-to-side if they want to get some past him. He is a big guy who plays the angles very well, and they won’t beat him from the outside.

Money management

Pat Quinn was 30 minutes late for his usual press conference this morning, and the reason was he and the coaching staff was meeting with management discussing what they will do with Pisani. Pisani might be ready Thursday, but it’s more realistic we will see him Saturday, and I’m guessing the organization was discussing who comes out, but also how they can fit him in money-wise.

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#51 VicOiler
October 27 2009, 07:43PM
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Nilson with a good chance then a hit. I predict he gets one tonight.

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#52 Travis Dakin
October 27 2009, 07:45PM
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jeanshorts wrote:

ALRIGHT TIME TO HIT THE PANIC BUTTON!

Seriously though, why are they wearing the last year copper and blues and not the orange and blues?

Because these ones are nicer. I'll never be happy with the orange. They got rid of them originally for a reason.

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#53 VicOiler
October 27 2009, 07:48PM
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Travis Dakin wrote:

Because these ones are nicer. I'll never be happy with the orange. They got rid of them originally for a reason.

I know the Orange are nice for the classic look, but I really dig cooper and blue as colors. The jersey is a little plain though.

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#54 Librarian Mike
October 27 2009, 07:50PM
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Travis Dakin wrote:

Because these ones are nicer. I'll never be happy with the orange. They got rid of them originally for a reason.

Agreed. The orange ones remind me of those European League uniforms that are covered in ads. Lame!

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#55 Travis Dakin
October 27 2009, 07:51PM
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VicOiler wrote:

I know the Orange are nice for the classic look, but I really dig cooper and blue as colors. The jersey is a little plain though.

I like the streamlined look. The only thing I would change would be to make the arm bands go all the way around.

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#56 jeanshorts
October 27 2009, 07:51PM
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@Travis Dakin

Mah, what do you know? Are you some kind of designer now or something? You studying color schemes and patterns?

I definitely prefer the old schools. I still hate the half elbow band thing on these ones.

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#57 Travis Dakin
October 27 2009, 07:55PM
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jeanshorts wrote:

Mah, what do you know? Are you some kind of designer now or something? You studying color schemes and patterns?

I definitely prefer the old schools. I still hate the half elbow band thing on these ones.

I have a finely tuned sense of awesomeness. The new ones are awesome. The old ones had awesome people in them. That's about it.

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#58 Librarian Mike
October 27 2009, 07:57PM
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I think we can all agree though that the absolute nadir of NHL jersey design was that 'cute bear' logo the Bruins had back in the 90s.

Jeanshorts, there's a retroactive righteous sack beating for you...

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#59 Librarian Mike
October 27 2009, 07:58PM
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http://www.thesunblog.com/sports/archives/pooh%20bear.jpg

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#60 jeanshorts
October 27 2009, 08:00PM
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@Librarian Mike

I think those Mighty Duck ones that were like teal and had the duck busting through ice or some crap was the absolute bottom of the barrel. Horrendous.

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#61 Travis Dakin
October 27 2009, 08:06PM
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jeanshorts wrote:

I think those Mighty Duck ones that were like teal and had the duck busting through ice or some crap was the absolute bottom of the barrel. Horrendous.

those ones you pointed out in your Sack beating today over at....

http://www.jeanshortsandbaggedmilk.com/2009/10/righteous-sack-beating-oct-27-2009.html

Are the worst EVER!!!

but definitely the Ducks ones are the worst. Followed right behind by all Canucks jerseys.

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#62 jeanshorts
October 27 2009, 08:07PM
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@Travis Dakin

They had this thing on HNIC about the Canucks new dressing room. And they have this wall of all their jersey's. And no word of a lie there was at least 12 jersey's on that wall. How long have they been around? 40 years? That's ridiculous.

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#63 Amber McCormick
October 27 2009, 08:07PM
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Here I thought I would hear some first period ranting and I'm faced with a fashion lesson!

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#64 Travis Dakin
October 27 2009, 08:09PM
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Amber McCormick wrote:

Here I thought I would hear some first period ranting and I'm faced with a fashion lesson!

Have you been watching this game? nothing to talk about.

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#65 Amber McCormick
October 27 2009, 08:10PM
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@Travis Dakin

That's very true.

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#66 jeanshorts
October 27 2009, 08:11PM
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So there was literally 5 Oilers standing around on the ice watching Colorado fish the puck off the boards. GREAT PERIOD!

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#67 Librarian Mike
October 27 2009, 08:11PM
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Amber McCormick wrote:

Here I thought I would hear some first period ranting and I'm faced with a fashion lesson!

On that note, whenever Pat Quinn show up on TV, my wife can't resist seeing what horrible, ill-fitting clothes he's wearing.

...Hey, it's getting her interested in hockey...

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#68 Garett
October 27 2009, 08:14PM
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Is there a crowd at Rexall tonight? Where is the emotion? What does Moreau not understand about moving the puck forward to Cogs to utilize his speed to get into the zone? Cogs must be so frustrated. Way too many turnovers, we are gonna get burried! (no pun intended).

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#69 Pinto
October 27 2009, 08:18PM
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Does anyone know where the game is online. Just moved and my tv isn't hooked up yet

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#70 RossCreekNation
October 27 2009, 08:18PM
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I think the old school look went out of style right around the time George Burnette was here. I never ever liked them, but I'll admit that I'm liking the retro's (in a non Oiler loving kind of way ;-)

I think they should come up with a new design using the old blue & orange with thirds that are predominantly orange, maybe even as the regular home jersey. I think that'd be cool.

Haha. Doug MacLean just called Horcoff a "$7 millin player". Obviously he lacks the ability to grasp the cap hit number too. Not surprising in the least, though.

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#71 jeanshorts
October 27 2009, 08:19PM
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@Garett

If the players did anything on the ice to warrent any noise other than boos, there'd probably be some. But when the team is standing around, doing nothing, the fans are going to do the same. It's pretty hard to get excited when the team looks like they're trying to skate up hill all period.

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#72 Librarian Mike
October 27 2009, 08:29PM
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Okay guys. I hope you had some coffee at the intermission.

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#73 Amber McCormick
October 27 2009, 08:29PM
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@Librarian Mike

Girls always do what we do best..be overly critical and mock those who are out of ear shot!!

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#74 Archaeologuy
October 27 2009, 08:29PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

I think the old school look went out of style right around the time George Burnette was here. I never ever liked them, but I'll admit that I'm liking the retro's (in a non Oiler loving kind of way ;-)

I think they should come up with a new design using the old blue & orange with thirds that are predominantly orange, maybe even as the regular home jersey. I think that'd be cool.

Haha. Doug MacLean just called Horcoff a "$7 millin player". Obviously he lacks the ability to grasp the cap hit number too. Not surprising in the least, though.

Or Maybe MacLean understands that Horc has to perform to the standard of whatever is the highest number in order to meet expectations.

I could have been wrong about Horc and the AHL next year, it might be THIS year when he ends up in the AHL.

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#75 SirFozz
October 27 2009, 08:34PM
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You know, if they would stop getting scored on in the first or last minute of a period they's cut the goals against in half. Arrgghhh.

*just turned on game*

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#76 Archaeologuy
October 27 2009, 08:36PM
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That was a great backhand Horc! Maybe next time you can pretend like you're in the NHL.

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#77 David S
October 27 2009, 08:37PM
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Penner looks like he caught Horcoff's flu.

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#78 Sandra
October 27 2009, 08:40PM
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I would trade O'Sullivin. He is not going to be the player Oilers think he is.

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#79 SirFozz
October 27 2009, 08:41PM
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Ummmmmm, what happened to out goal scoring???

@David S

Stauffer mentioned today that he has it. Last game he kept going missing on LW1 to throw up.

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#80 Librarian Mike
October 27 2009, 08:41PM
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Did you see Comrie push Horcoff with his stick? "Move you slow bastard!" Haha.

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#81 jeanshorts
October 27 2009, 08:41PM
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Well at least they didn't get scored on in the first minute of the period. Progress!

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#82 Librarian Mike
October 27 2009, 08:43PM
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"Gilbert needs help with his crossword puzzle because he struggles with politics and history..."

...and defense...

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#83 Archaeologuy
October 27 2009, 08:43PM
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Sandra wrote:

I would trade O'Sullivin. He is not going to be the player Oilers think he is.

Sure, but can he do Horcoff's job just as good or better for 3 mill cheaper? I think so.

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#84 Jonathan Willis
October 27 2009, 08:44PM
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"just as good or better"

Really?

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#85 Jonathan Willis
October 27 2009, 08:46PM
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Moreau, Nilsson, Chorney and Strudwick in their own end against Stastny, Hejduk and Wolski.

That's why "rolling the lines" isn't always a great strategy.

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#86 Lofty
October 27 2009, 08:47PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Moreau, Nilsson, Chorney and Strudwick in their own end against Stastny, Hejduk and Wolski.

That's why "rolling the lines" isn't always a great strategy.

Tell Gregor that

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#87 Sandra
October 27 2009, 08:48PM
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Yah Horc@pp, looks like he is earning his 3.5M a point.

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#88 Jonathan Willis
October 27 2009, 08:49PM
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I've got to admit - I wasn't impressed with Brule in the preseason, but that's changed in a hurry.

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#89 Jonathan Willis
October 27 2009, 08:49PM
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Anderson hurt?

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#90 SirFozz
October 27 2009, 08:49PM
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The post headmans the puck better then Staios.

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#91 Librarian Mike
October 27 2009, 08:50PM
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Good try, Brule!

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#92 Jonathan Willis
October 27 2009, 08:51PM
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Guess not.

Good powerplay so far.

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#93 Archaeologuy
October 27 2009, 08:52PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

"just as good or better"

Really?

Quit living in the past JW. The days of Horc being the #1 center are over. All thats left is the shell of a player who once scored 50 points in 50 games.

He can take all the faceoffs he wants, but he's not getting any better and his cap hit is outweighing his value. The team has to make a decision in the next calendar year as to whether they want to ride the Horcoff train or the youth train.

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#94 SirFozz
October 27 2009, 08:54PM
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I chose Sully as my star because he shoots the puck but now I keep hoping he passes instead.

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#95 RossCreekNation
October 27 2009, 08:54PM
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@Archaeologuy

Seriously... you can't write that and expect it to be taken seriously. I'm not an Oiler fan, yet I see value in Horcoff. Obviously, he's off to a rough start, but if he gets 50+ points, shuts-down/out-scores the top opposition and remains a good faceoff/pk guy, it'll be fine. He won't be in the minors in the next 18 months. Lowe botched the deal and overpaid slightly. History shows Horcoff is a really good 2C/below average 1C, somewhere in the 20-40 range among centers throughout the league.

Perhaps Shawn's off-ice PA duties have taken a toll on his on-ice player duties? Clearly, something's not right. The shoulder should be fine by now. Is it the contract pressure? The Union duties?He's bound to shake this, righ? RIGHT? Actually, I'd find it funny if he was a dud for the duration, but I don't expect to be laughing all that much... til year 5 & 6.

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#96 Jonathan Willis
October 27 2009, 08:54PM
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@Archaeologuy

Based on what? 10 games?

Gagner may very well hang on to that spot between Hemsky and Penner. It may even be the best thing for the team.

But Horcoff's still the best centre on this team and one of the three best forwards. I'll need a lot more than ten games to convince me otherwise.

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#97 jeanshorts
October 27 2009, 08:55PM
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SirFozz wrote:

I chose Sully as my star because he shoots the puck but now I keep hoping he passes instead.

I'm feeling the same kind of buyers remorse.

I still love the kid and it's only a matter of time before he finally bucks the monkey off his back. And I love his tendency to shoot, but man, he needs to start picking his spots a little better.

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#98 Sandra
October 27 2009, 08:57PM
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You think Horcr@pp would clear waivers?

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#99 Jonathan Willis
October 27 2009, 08:59PM
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For those of you, who like me have only a vague notion of who Chris Durno is, he had six goals and nine points in eight AHL games so far this season.

A career minor-leaguer (29 on Halloween), he's been putting up decent point totals and lots of PIM in previous minor-league seasons.

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#100 Jonathan Willis
October 27 2009, 08:59PM
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Sandra:

That's hilarious. Why would any team need even one centre over the age of 25?

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