EDIT: Oilers down a captain, Horcoff will play

Jason Gregor
October 06 2009 10:54AM

 

The Oilers will be without their captain and possibly one of their assistants as they look for their first win of the season, against the 0-0-1 Dallas Stars.

The Stars dominated the Predators on Saturday, but couldn’t beat Dan Ellis, so it could be a good test for Nikolai Khabibulin to see if he can rebound.

Ethan Moreau wasn’t on the ice at the morning skate this morning and neither was Shawn Horcoff. Andrew Cogliano took his spot alongside Sam Gagner and Zack Stortini. Robert Nilsson skated with Gilbert Brule and Dustin Penner. Horcoff skated yesterday, so it is strange not to see him on the ice.

Marc Pouliot skated with J.F Jacques and Ales Hemsky, and if he plays there tonight then this coaching staff really wants to give every guy a clean slate. If Pouliot, after sitting out for two weeks, actually plays all game with Hemsky, then Hemsky either needs to carry the line or he we shouldn’t expect much from him offensively.

The Oilers swept the Stars at home last year winning 5-2 and 4-1. The Stars won both games in Dallas by scores of 4-3 and 4-2.

The Oilers PK was actually good against Dallas allowing only three goals on 20 chances for 85%, while the Oilers scored three PP goals on 16 chances for 18.8 %.

Last year was the first time since 1992/1993 that the Oilers swept the Stars in Edmonton.

Both the Oilers and Stars lost their first game even though they out shot the opposition. The Stars outshot the Predators 40-26, with James Neal potting both goals for the Stars.

***Update***

Just spoke with Horcoff, and he will play. He says it isn’t a big deal, and that he has a small tweak but he is just resting it.

Robert Nilsson admitted that he has to cut down on his risky plays in the defensive and neutral zones if he wants to stay in the lineup. Look for Nilsson to simplify his game in those zones, but he feels that he should generate more offence by not giving the puck away as often as he has.

Quinn explained the reason why he inserted Nilsson on the RW, and moved Cogliano on the left side with Gagner.

“I like Nilsson’s game on the right side, he generates more from that wing, and I know that Cogliano and Gagner have played together before, and played well, so this should give them both a better chance to produce.”

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#101 I'm a Scientist!
October 06 2009, 02:55PM
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And here we thought we were so clever in our development meetings making it 20 so that it was easier to catch up with only the latest convos and not have to scroll all over. But we can all agree that the new scratch and sniff ads are brilliant right?

My scratch and sniff function isn't working... Citizen Alpha get on this... chop, chop! I want to smell Joan Rivers so that i can have sweet sweet dreams...

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#102 Chris.
October 06 2009, 02:59PM
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Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach wrote:

I wonder what other teams have in terms of games played by players iced? Obviously any team with Chelios and his 10000 games wouldn't be allowed.

But how about within or division?

In our division? Vancouver and Calagary have us destroyed in terms of games played by forwards. More importantly, both the other teams are skating multiple forwards who can be expected to score thirty or more goals. Last season Hemsky, Gagner, O'Sullivan, and Nilsson scored a combined 64 goals. Iginla and Jokinen scored as many by themselves. Daniel Sedin and Burrows scored 59.

With the injection of Stone and JFJ into the top six: guys like Hemsky and Penner had better up thier goal total or the Oilers will quickly fall off the pace.

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#103 Senator Theo
October 06 2009, 02:59PM
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Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach wrote:

So his attitude part?

I would hope for the hands.

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#104 rubbertrout
October 06 2009, 03:03PM
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Senator Theo wrote:

I would hope for the hands.

For Smid we probably only get his gap teeth and smug sense of superiority.

As well, the MAB announcement about the serious knee injury stung a bit too much. Maybe les Habs ought to pick up Conklin and he'll take them where they need to go.

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#105 rubbertrout
October 06 2009, 03:04PM
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@bingofuel

Hey bingofuel,

I can't get paragraph spaces in my comments. Everything just runs together. Am I missing some unique command other than hitting the enter key a thousand times?

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#106 Librarian Mike
October 06 2009, 03:09PM
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@bingofuel

We rolled out a new website at the Library recently, so I can appreciate all your hard work. It's coming along really nicely!

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#107 THREE 1ST NAMES
October 06 2009, 03:09PM
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rubbertrout wrote:

Hey bingofuel,

I can't get paragraph spaces in my comments. Everything just runs together. Am I missing some unique command other than hitting the enter key a thousand times?

put a P inbetween < and > to start a new paragragh

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#108 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
October 06 2009, 03:09PM
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@Chris.

Hemsky, Gagner and Nilsson aren't scorers though, they never were at any level so why should we expect more then 15-20 now?

What this team does need is the guys that are suppose to be scorers to put the puck in the net. Cogliano, O'Sullivan, Penner and Comrie are those guys. Still don't see any of those guys going much higher then 30.

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#109 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
October 06 2009, 03:10PM
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@THREE 1ST NAMES

Thanks I was going to ask that.

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#110 rubbertrout
October 06 2009, 03:14PM
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@THREE 1ST NAMES

Thanks. You are a scholar and a lady (or gentleman posing as a lady to lure unsuspecting internet types for unseemly deeds).

**scrubs self in the shower again

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#111 THREE 1ST NAMES
October 06 2009, 03:16PM
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rubbertrout wrote:

Thanks. You are a scholar and a lady (or gentleman posing as a lady to lure unsuspecting internet types for unseemly deeds).

**scrubs self in the shower again

it is i miss edmonton because i moved away 2 years ago and now live in Red deer so i am a gentlemen

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#112 Librarian Mike
October 06 2009, 03:19PM
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THREE 1ST NAMES wrote:

it is i miss edmonton because i moved away 2 years ago and now live in Red deer so i am a gentlemen

HAHAHA! *weeps as Crying Game music plays in the background*

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#113 bingofuel
October 06 2009, 03:30PM
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rubbertrout wrote:

Hey bingofuel,

I can't get paragraph spaces in my comments. Everything just runs together. Am I missing some unique command other than hitting the enter key a thousand times?

You have to wrap each paragraph tags:

Check it.

This is an issue we're working to resolve.

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#114 blu
October 06 2009, 03:35PM
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so not that I get to actually make an appearance tonight, but you fools at the Pint. Is this a Pil & Bud crowd, or do you get into Leffe & Patron?

I need to know.

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#115 Chris.
October 06 2009, 03:35PM
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Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach wrote:

Hemsky, Gagner and Nilsson aren't scorers though, they never were at any level so why should we expect more then 15-20 now?

What this team does need is the guys that are suppose to be scorers to put the puck in the net. Cogliano, O'Sullivan, Penner and Comrie are those guys. Still don't see any of those guys going much higher then 30.

If Hemsky, Gagner, and Nilsson aren't our scorers who are? Cogliano? Cogliano isn't in the top six this year and wasn't last year either. Cogliano has never scored twenty. O'Sullivan? The guy who netted 16 last year? Penner? Big Dustin Penner who also fell short of twenty last season? Comrie? The comeback kid? Hardly a sure thing. If Hemsky and Gagner don't score for this team... this team is going nowhere.

This goes to my orginal point: The Oilers burn up at least four prime, top six roster spots on small, one-dimensional, offensively oriented players; who are likely to score a combined total of less than seventy goals. Calgary, Vancouver, and every other playoff bound team gets similar goal production from just their two top guys.

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#116 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
October 06 2009, 03:37PM
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@bingofuel

What in the fack? I need a tutor now.

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#117 David S
October 06 2009, 03:38PM
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I hope Quinn isn't seriously thinking about a MAP/JFJ/Hemsky scenario. I mean, that's not even a fourth line. Its a decent AHL line. Not to mention a brilliant way to piss off our (theoretically) best offensive forward.

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#118 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
October 06 2009, 03:39PM
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@Chris.

I'm just saying if we are expecting guys that weren't scorers at any level we have a problem. Hemsky and Gagner never were scorers and never will be. I'm not saying I like it, but this is what we have and we have no choices right now.

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#119 Chris.
October 06 2009, 03:40PM
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@THREE 1ST NAMES

Ohhhhh! I get it... I miss Edmonton.

I thought your handle was 1 Miss Edmonton. I was inapropriately excited.

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#120 bingofuel
October 06 2009, 03:40PM
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Who's coming to the Pint tonight?

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#121 David S
October 06 2009, 03:42PM
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A guy whop pops close to 20 in the NHL, in his first year, in his teens isn't a scorer?

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#122 David S
October 06 2009, 03:43PM
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@bingofuel

Sounds like its Gregor and Bingofuel so far.

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#123 Librarian Mike
October 06 2009, 03:44PM
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bingofuel wrote:

Who's coming to the Pint tonight?

I'll be there at 6:30.

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#124 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
October 06 2009, 03:45PM
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bingofuel wrote:

Who's coming to the Pint tonight?

I would like to, but nothing good happens when I drink downtown on a weeknight.

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#125 THREE 1ST NAMES
October 06 2009, 03:50PM
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Chris. wrote:

Ohhhhh! I get it... I miss Edmonton.

I thought your handle was 1 Miss Edmonton. I was inapropriately excited.

i am not very creative and it was the 1st thing i could think of because I truly miss Edmonton, Red Deer is nice and all but Edmonton was where i was born and raised.

I bleed cooper and blue like most on this web site

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#126 Chris.
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Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach wrote:

I'm just saying if we are expecting guys that weren't scorers at any level we have a problem. Hemsky and Gagner never were scorers and never will be. I'm not saying I like it, but this is what we have and we have no choices right now.

I'm not expecting anything. I'm highlighting a problem. The Oilers lack high end goal scoring talent... I'm saying it must be difficult for Quinn to inject the necessary balance of size and toughness into the forward lines when our high end "skill guys" simply don't score enough.

MacT injected piles of soft skill players into the forward lines and the team utter failed to compete on many levels. Now that Quinn has tried to address the need for size and toughness; I worry there may not be enough offence. Teams that scoring by committee always have less margin for error... it's something good teams do when their real talent is temporarily injured.

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#127 THREE 1ST NAMES
October 06 2009, 03:53PM
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Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach wrote:

What in the fack? I need a tutor now.

do you still need help with paragraphs?

ok so after no finish a paragraph put a < then a P then a > and when it posts it will be a new paragraph

see what i mean

but how do you people bold the words?

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#128 BUCK75
October 06 2009, 03:55PM
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@Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach

Just phone into work tomorrow like the MGD commercial.

Call in tired :P

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#129 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
October 06 2009, 03:56PM
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@Chris.

Looking back at when we went to the cup final.

Smyth-36, Torres-27, Horcoff-22, Stoll-22, Hemsky-19, Pisani-18

So really are we going to be that far off this year from totals like that?

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#130 Citizen Alpha
October 06 2009, 03:57PM
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THREE 1ST NAMES wrote:

do you still need help with paragraphs?

ok so after no finish a paragraph put a < then a P then a > and when it posts it will be a new paragraph

see what i mean

but how do you people bold the words?

You can use either <b>bold</b> or <strong>bold</strong>

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#131 rubbertrout
October 06 2009, 03:57PM
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bingofuel wrote:

Who's coming to the Pint tonight?

Would but unfortunately I live in cowtown now. Stupid Flamers. be sure to pour one on the curb for a fallen homie.

*weeps

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#132 BUCK75
October 06 2009, 03:58PM
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@THREE 1ST NAMES

a < B > followed by < / B >

itallics - replace b with an I

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#133 Travis Dakin
October 06 2009, 04:02PM
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BUCK75 wrote:

Just phone into work tomorrow like the MGD commercial.

Call in tired :P

That only works if you meet up with your old college room mate. Or hook up with any chick for that matter.

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#134 Bob Loblaw
October 06 2009, 04:03PM
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Okay. Oilers win 5-2 tonight and follow it up with a win against Calgary on Thursday.

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#135 Ender
October 06 2009, 04:04PM
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To bold</>, do the same thing as for paragraphs but use 'b' instead of 'p'.

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#136 DK0
October 06 2009, 04:05PM
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@bingofuel

Me and a buddy will be there for the first period. Then we have a damn Dodgeball game at 9pm and will have to take off. Do you have custom ON nametags? how am I supposed to connect peoples internet profiles with their meatspace bodies? :P

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#137 DK0
October 06 2009, 04:09PM
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Wanye wrote:

And here we thought we were so clever in our development meetings making it 20 so that it was easier to catch up with only the latest convos and not have to scroll all over. But we can all agree that the new scratch and sniff ads are brilliant right?

It wouldn't be so bad at all if the comments were a separate division or whatever the fancy web pages are using nowadays. So if i click next on the comments it doesn't reload the whole page, including the youtube video at the top, forcing you to scroll all the way back to the bottom, etc. Trying to find an example of someone who did it right.. i dunno i guess like Facebook where you hit older posts and it doesnt have to reload the whole page.

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#138 Ender
October 06 2009, 04:10PM
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@bingofuel

Bingofuel wrote:

Check it

Much better than the tutorial I learned off of. Thanks, Big Guy.

:-)

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#139 Senator Theo
October 06 2009, 04:15PM
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@imissedmonton

I thought you meant you were a "miss edmonton" as well. As in, "it is I, Miss Edmonton".

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#140 David S
October 06 2009, 04:22PM
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Sounds like The Pint is going to be a bit like that bar in Mos Eisley. "You will never see a more wretched place of ..."

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#141 Smokin' Ray
October 06 2009, 04:39PM
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I am trying a

Paragraph

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#142 Smokin' Ray
October 06 2009, 04:41PM
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Trying this

Again.

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#143 David S
October 06 2009, 04:48PM
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@ Smokin' Ray Here's the goods...hxxp://www.w3schools.com/tags/ref_byfunc.asp

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#144 Smokin' Ray
October 06 2009, 04:48PM
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One Last

Time

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#145 blu
October 06 2009, 04:48PM
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I'm expecting the win, but if that dick-clown Morrow doesn't get the Gourmet Shot tonight, it ultimately can't be a success.

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#146 David S
October 06 2009, 04:49PM
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^Proving once again that information is nothing without intelligence.

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#147 Smokin' Ray
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David S wrote:

@ Smokin' Ray Here's the goods...hxxp://www.w3schools.com/tags/ref_byfunc.asp

Thanks Bud.

I might as well be learning french. *brain explodes* :)

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#148 David S
October 06 2009, 05:10PM
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Sorry blu - I was referring to my complete lack of HTML skilz.

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#149 David S
October 06 2009, 05:12PM
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Ray - only code d!cks and gamers work with code on a regular basis. The rest of us just use the space bar. And here apparently, fail miserably. I'll wait for the boys in the back to fix 'er up.

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#150 Senator Theo
October 06 2009, 05:16PM
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Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach wrote:

I'm just saying if we are expecting guys that weren't scorers at any level we have a problem. Hemsky and Gagner never were scorers and never will be. I'm not saying I like it, but this is what we have and we have no choices right now.

But both those guys are great passers. And isn't a goal really just a pass to the back of the net?

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