EDIT: Oilers down a captain, Horcoff will play
Jason Gregor
October 06 2009 10:54AM
The Oilers will be without their captain and possibly one of their assistants as they look for their first win of the season, against the 0-0-1 Dallas Stars.
The Stars dominated the Predators on Saturday, but couldn’t beat Dan Ellis, so it could be a good test for Nikolai Khabibulin to see if he can rebound.
Ethan Moreau wasn’t on the ice at the morning skate this morning and neither was Shawn Horcoff. Andrew Cogliano took his spot alongside Sam Gagner and Zack Stortini. Robert Nilsson skated with Gilbert Brule and Dustin Penner. Horcoff skated yesterday, so it is strange not to see him on the ice.
Marc Pouliot skated with J.F Jacques and Ales Hemsky, and if he plays there tonight then this coaching staff really wants to give every guy a clean slate. If Pouliot, after sitting out for two weeks, actually plays all game with Hemsky, then Hemsky either needs to carry the line or he we shouldn’t expect much from him offensively.
The Oilers swept the Stars at home last year winning 5-2 and 4-1. The Stars won both games in Dallas by scores of 4-3 and 4-2.
The Oilers PK was actually good against Dallas allowing only three goals on 20 chances for 85%, while the Oilers scored three PP goals on 16 chances for 18.8 %.
Last year was the first time since 1992/1993 that the Oilers swept the Stars in Edmonton.
Both the Oilers and Stars lost their first game even though they out shot the opposition. The Stars outshot the Predators 40-26, with James Neal potting both goals for the Stars.
***Update***
Just spoke with Horcoff, and he will play. He says it isn’t a big deal, and that he has a small tweak but he is just resting it.
Robert Nilsson admitted that he has to cut down on his risky plays in the defensive and neutral zones if he wants to stay in the lineup. Look for Nilsson to simplify his game in those zones, but he feels that he should generate more offence by not giving the puck away as often as he has.
Quinn explained the reason why he inserted Nilsson on the RW, and moved Cogliano on the left side with Gagner.
“I like Nilsson’s game on the right side, he generates more from that wing, and I know that Cogliano and Gagner have played together before, and played well, so this should give them both a better chance to produce.”
My scratch and sniff function isn't working... Citizen Alpha get on this... chop, chop! I want to smell Joan Rivers so that i can have sweet sweet dreams...
In our division? Vancouver and Calagary have us destroyed in terms of games played by forwards. More importantly, both the other teams are skating multiple forwards who can be expected to score thirty or more goals. Last season Hemsky, Gagner, O'Sullivan, and Nilsson scored a combined 64 goals. Iginla and Jokinen scored as many by themselves. Daniel Sedin and Burrows scored 59.
With the injection of Stone and JFJ into the top six: guys like Hemsky and Penner had better up thier goal total or the Oilers will quickly fall off the pace.
I would hope for the hands.
For Smid we probably only get his gap teeth and smug sense of superiority.
As well, the MAB announcement about the serious knee injury stung a bit too much. Maybe les Habs ought to pick up Conklin and he'll take them where they need to go.
@bingofuel
Hey bingofuel,
I can't get paragraph spaces in my comments. Everything just runs together. Am I missing some unique command other than hitting the enter key a thousand times?
@bingofuel
We rolled out a new website at the Library recently, so I can appreciate all your hard work. It's coming along really nicely!
put a P inbetween < and > to start a new paragragh
@Chris
Hemsky, Gagner and Nilsson aren't scorers though, they never were at any level so why should we expect more then 15-20 now?
What this team does need is the guys that are suppose to be scorers to put the puck in the net. Cogliano, O'Sullivan, Penner and Comrie are those guys. Still don't see any of those guys going much higher then 30.
@THREE 1ST NAMES
Thanks I was going to ask that.
@THREE 1ST NAMES
Thanks. You are a scholar and a lady (or gentleman posing as a lady to lure unsuspecting internet types for unseemly deeds).
**scrubs self in the shower again
it is i miss edmonton because i moved away 2 years ago and now live in Red deer so i am a gentlemen
HAHAHA! *weeps as Crying Game music plays in the background*
You have to wrap each paragraph tags:
Check it.
This is an issue we're working to resolve.
so not that I get to actually make an appearance tonight, but you fools at the Pint. Is this a Pil & Bud crowd, or do you get into Leffe & Patron?
I need to know.
If Hemsky, Gagner, and Nilsson aren't our scorers who are? Cogliano? Cogliano isn't in the top six this year and wasn't last year either. Cogliano has never scored twenty. O'Sullivan? The guy who netted 16 last year? Penner? Big Dustin Penner who also fell short of twenty last season? Comrie? The comeback kid? Hardly a sure thing. If Hemsky and Gagner don't score for this team... this team is going nowhere.
This goes to my orginal point: The Oilers burn up at least four prime, top six roster spots on small, one-dimensional, offensively oriented players; who are likely to score a combined total of less than seventy goals. Calgary, Vancouver, and every other playoff bound team gets similar goal production from just their two top guys.
@bingofuel
What in the fack? I need a tutor now.
I hope Quinn isn't seriously thinking about a MAP/JFJ/Hemsky scenario. I mean, that's not even a fourth line. Its a decent AHL line. Not to mention a brilliant way to piss off our (theoretically) best offensive forward.
@Chris
I'm just saying if we are expecting guys that weren't scorers at any level we have a problem. Hemsky and Gagner never were scorers and never will be. I'm not saying I like it, but this is what we have and we have no choices right now.
@THREE 1ST NAMES
Ohhhhh! I get it... I miss Edmonton.
I thought your handle was 1 Miss Edmonton. I was inapropriately excited.
Who's coming to the Pint tonight?
A guy whop pops close to 20 in the NHL, in his first year, in his teens isn't a scorer?
@bingofuel
Sounds like its Gregor and Bingofuel so far.
I'll be there at 6:30.
I would like to, but nothing good happens when I drink downtown on a weeknight.
i am not very creative and it was the 1st thing i could think of because I truly miss Edmonton, Red Deer is nice and all but Edmonton was where i was born and raised.
I bleed cooper and blue like most on this web site
I'm not expecting anything. I'm highlighting a problem. The Oilers lack high end goal scoring talent... I'm saying it must be difficult for Quinn to inject the necessary balance of size and toughness into the forward lines when our high end "skill guys" simply don't score enough.
MacT injected piles of soft skill players into the forward lines and the team utter failed to compete on many levels. Now that Quinn has tried to address the need for size and toughness; I worry there may not be enough offence. Teams that scoring by committee always have less margin for error... it's something good teams do when their real talent is temporarily injured.
do you still need help with paragraphs?
ok so after no finish a paragraph put a < then a P then a > and when it posts it will be a new paragraph
see what i mean
but how do you people bold the words?
@Ogden Brother Jr.
Just phone into work tomorrow like the MGD commercial.
Call in tired :P
@Chris
Looking back at when we went to the cup final.
Smyth-36, Torres-27, Horcoff-22, Stoll-22, Hemsky-19, Pisani-18
So really are we going to be that far off this year from totals like that?
You can use either <b>bold</b> or <strong>bold</strong>
Would but unfortunately I live in cowtown now. Stupid Flamers. be sure to pour one on the curb for a fallen homie.
*weeps
@THREE 1ST NAMES
a < B > followed by < / B >
itallics - replace b with an I
That only works if you meet up with your old college room mate. Or hook up with any chick for that matter.
Okay. Oilers win 5-2 tonight and follow it up with a win against Calgary on Thursday.
To bold</>, do the same thing as for paragraphs but use 'b' instead of 'p'.
@bingofuel
Me and a buddy will be there for the first period. Then we have a damn Dodgeball game at 9pm and will have to take off. Do you have custom ON nametags? how am I supposed to connect peoples internet profiles with their meatspace bodies? :P
It wouldn't be so bad at all if the comments were a separate division or whatever the fancy web pages are using nowadays. So if i click next on the comments it doesn't reload the whole page, including the youtube video at the top, forcing you to scroll all the way back to the bottom, etc. Trying to find an example of someone who did it right.. i dunno i guess like Facebook where you hit older posts and it doesnt have to reload the whole page.
@bingofuel
Bingofuel wrote:
Much better than the tutorial I learned off of. Thanks, Big Guy.
:-)
@imissedmonton
I thought you meant you were a "miss edmonton" as well. As in, "it is I, Miss Edmonton".
Sounds like The Pint is going to be a bit like that bar in Mos Eisley. "You will never see a more wretched place of ..."
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@ Smokin' Ray Here's the goods...hxxp://www.w3schools.com/tags/ref_byfunc.asp
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I'm expecting the win, but if that dick-clown Morrow doesn't get the Gourmet Shot tonight, it ultimately can't be a success.
^Proving once again that information is nothing without intelligence.
Thanks Bud.
I might as well be learning french. *brain explodes* :)
Sorry blu - I was referring to my complete lack of HTML skilz.
Ray - only code d!cks and gamers work with code on a regular basis. The rest of us just use the space bar. And here apparently, fail miserably. I'll wait for the boys in the back to fix 'er up.
But both those guys are great passers. And isn't a goal really just a pass to the back of the net?