EDIT: Oilers down a captain, Horcoff will play

Jason Gregor
October 06 2009 10:54AM

 

The Oilers will be without their captain and possibly one of their assistants as they look for their first win of the season, against the 0-0-1 Dallas Stars.

The Stars dominated the Predators on Saturday, but couldn’t beat Dan Ellis, so it could be a good test for Nikolai Khabibulin to see if he can rebound.

Ethan Moreau wasn’t on the ice at the morning skate this morning and neither was Shawn Horcoff. Andrew Cogliano took his spot alongside Sam Gagner and Zack Stortini. Robert Nilsson skated with Gilbert Brule and Dustin Penner. Horcoff skated yesterday, so it is strange not to see him on the ice.

Marc Pouliot skated with J.F Jacques and Ales Hemsky, and if he plays there tonight then this coaching staff really wants to give every guy a clean slate. If Pouliot, after sitting out for two weeks, actually plays all game with Hemsky, then Hemsky either needs to carry the line or he we shouldn’t expect much from him offensively.

The Oilers swept the Stars at home last year winning 5-2 and 4-1. The Stars won both games in Dallas by scores of 4-3 and 4-2.

The Oilers PK was actually good against Dallas allowing only three goals on 20 chances for 85%, while the Oilers scored three PP goals on 16 chances for 18.8 %.

Last year was the first time since 1992/1993 that the Oilers swept the Stars in Edmonton.

Both the Oilers and Stars lost their first game even though they out shot the opposition. The Stars outshot the Predators 40-26, with James Neal potting both goals for the Stars.

***Update***

Just spoke with Horcoff, and he will play. He says it isn’t a big deal, and that he has a small tweak but he is just resting it.

Robert Nilsson admitted that he has to cut down on his risky plays in the defensive and neutral zones if he wants to stay in the lineup. Look for Nilsson to simplify his game in those zones, but he feels that he should generate more offence by not giving the puck away as often as he has.

Quinn explained the reason why he inserted Nilsson on the RW, and moved Cogliano on the left side with Gagner.

“I like Nilsson’s game on the right side, he generates more from that wing, and I know that Cogliano and Gagner have played together before, and played well, so this should give them both a better chance to produce.”

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#301 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
October 07 2009, 10:55AM
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Ender wrote:

Dan the Man wrote:

So far Penner, Cogliano and Smid are outscoring Heatley 2-4-6 vs 1-4-5... WOOOOOO! Best trade we never made!

Pretty funny way of looking at statistics. If you wanted to make the point the other way, you could also point out that through the same two games, our three guys took 94:55 minutes of ice-time to score those 6 points (0.06 points per minute) while Heater scored his 5 in 36:49 minutes (0.13 points per minute) clearly showing that Heater is outscoring our guys by better than 2 to 1. Stats can show anything.

:-)

Now why would we looked at it like that? Insert sarcastic smilie.

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#302 Colin
October 07 2009, 10:57AM
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Penner and Gagner are playing amazing so far, I've been quite impressed with them thus far, but 2 games is a pretty small sample.

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#303 Hemmertime
October 07 2009, 10:57AM
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Bob Loblaw wrote:

Maybe we can make a 3 for 1 trade now to get Schremp back from the Islanders! ;)

Amusingly Schremp has taken Jeff Tambellini's spot on the NYI roster, thanks dad!

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#304 Chris.
October 07 2009, 10:59AM
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I thought it was a terrible win... much of my early optimism has been crushed. Let's face it, the squad looked just like it did when it played under MacT: uninspired, disorganized, and sloppy in all three zones. What was with all the crazy breakouts that went nowhere? Why did the Oilers look like they were two men down every PK? What was with Grebs? BA-AA-AA-AA-AAAA!

I know many people feel it is inapropriate to crique a win; but let's face it... many of us (myself included) spent the last three days praising the solid effort against Calgary that ended in a loss. I guess I'm saying that the Hockey Gods have already evened up the score and the Oilers had better start playing both physical and as a team again, or its going to be a long season.

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#305 swany
October 07 2009, 11:02AM
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Horc has been brutal so far, Penner and gagner have proven there here to play. Penner took JFJ spot on the 1st line half way thew the 3rd, how long before gagner gets a shot with Hemmer and Penner? I say if Horc keeps sucking and Gagner keeps it up 2 more games. Penner could lift that first line and maybe brake Hemmer and Horc out of this minny slump, but Horc has been bad in all areas not just offence.

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#306 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
October 07 2009, 11:04AM
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@Chris.

I never thought they were that great on Saturday. There were some individual efforts that had to be praised, but the team never played like a team. I will however take the win and hope for more tomorrow.

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#307 Chris.
October 07 2009, 11:13AM
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@ Ogden JR:

I thought they were pretty good on Saturday. They pressed Clagary in all three zones, generated more chances, and won the physical battles. There were mistakes to be sure... but at least there was some instensity... something that was in short supply last night. Many people were critical of MacT's inability to get this group to perform consistantly. While it's only been two games, we've already been treated to both Oiler teams so far this year under Quinn.

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#308 DK0
October 07 2009, 11:15AM
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bingofuel wrote:

Thanks to Librarian Mike, Alberta Ranger, freeze, greens, and Paq Twinn for coming out to the Pint last night!

If there were other folks there (aside from Amber and Gregor) and I missed you, my apologies. Catch you at the next meetup

No love just cause I showed up late and had to leave after 1 period :P

Why do the Oil always play best when I'm not watching...

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#309 Hemmercules
October 07 2009, 11:27AM
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Chris. wrote:

I thought it was a terrible win... much of my early optimism has been crushed. Let's face it, the squad looked just like it did when it played under MacT: uninspired, disorganized, and sloppy in all three zones. What was with all the crazy breakouts that went nowhere? Why did the Oilers look like they were two men down every PK? What was with Grebs? BA-AA-AA-AA-AAAA!

I know many people feel it is inapropriate to crique a win; but let's face it... many of us (myself included) spent the last three days praising the solid effort against Calgary that ended in a loss. I guess I'm saying that the Hockey Gods have already evened up the score and the Oilers had better start playing both physical and as a team again, or its going to be a long season.

We must have watched a different game last night. I don't think the comment "uninspired" fit that game at all.

Chris said: "...better start playing both physical and as a team again,..."

I think we have been more physical in these last two games than we were all last season.

Disorganiztion will be part of the oilers game for the first while, new coaches and new players don't click instantly in most cases.

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#310 Chris.
October 07 2009, 11:42AM
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Hemmercules wrote:

We must have watched a different game last night. I don't think the comment "uninspired" fit that game at all.

Chris said: "...better start playing both physical and as a team again,..."

I think we have been more physical in these last two games than we were all last season.

Disorganiztion will be part of the oilers game for the first while, new coaches and new players don't click instantly in most cases.

It was my feeling thast there was a definate drop off in intensity and physical play as compared to Saturday. I realize that it was no longer the season opener, and that it wasn't the battle of Alberta, but the Oilers were handily outshot, outchanced, and didn't win many battles along the boards. There was a ten minute stretch in the second period were not a single hit was made by anyone in Oilers silks. I guess we just disagree.

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#311 bingofuel
October 07 2009, 12:17PM
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@DK0

I don't know if I saw you or introduced myself... Sorry I missed you!

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#312 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
October 07 2009, 12:31PM
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You guys should have the next pay-per-view party at my new place. I finally got the damn cable hooked up this morning.

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#313 DK0
October 07 2009, 01:18PM
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@bingofuel

Yeah my punishment for showing up like 5 minutes before the game was sitting in the corner 3 guys down from you. I was there with greens, we had to leave for dodgeball after the first. damn that was hard to do...

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#314 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
October 08 2009, 05:31PM
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[color=red]i sure hope this works[/color]

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#315 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
October 08 2009, 05:32PM
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cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan wrote:

[color=red]i sure hope this works[/color]

son of a

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