GDB XVIII: Injury woes on the Senate floor

Jason Gregor
November 10 2009 11:43AM

The injuries just keep coming for the Edmonton Oilers, as they get set to take on the Ottawa Senators tonight.

Robert Nilsson is out with a concussion, and with Florida claiming Steve MacIntyre on waivers this morning, the Oilers have recalled Ryan O’Marra for tonight's game. Taylor Chorney has a bad ankle and is out, so Ladislav Smid will draw back in.

Does someone have a voodoo doll and every few days decide to take down another Oiler? Maybe the producers of the lamest movie I’ve seen in years, Paranormal Activity, are making a sports-like spin off that has alleged demons stalking the Oilers. I can’t believe that Theo Peckham told me he had to sleep with the lights on after watching that movie. I’ll be juicing him hard when he gets back to Edmonton. There was nothing remotely scary about that movie. Plus the acting was worse than the Carolina Hurricanes.

I really don’t think losing Nilsson is a big loss, and Smid is better than Chorney at this point, but you wonder how many more injuries this team can handle before it takes a toll on their salary cap.

With Nilsson out, my best guess would see Andrew Cogliano move to the wing and play with Gilbert Brule and Mike Comrie. Lately Pat Quinn has tried to go with two offensive oriented lines, and moving Cogliano there makes the most sense.

That would leave Sam Gagner with Dustin Penner and Patrick O’Sullivan, while Ryan Potulny would centre Fernando Pisani and Liam Reddox, and O’Marra can play between Zack Stortini and Ethan Moreau.

Know thy enemy

The Sens sit in 2nd place in the Northeast division, but like the Oilers they're currently out of the playoff picture. The Sens are 7-5-2 and are averaging three goals for and three goals against in 14 games.

Jonathon Cheechoo has been a bust since coming over from San Jose, with no goals and two assists in 14 games. Cory Clouston said he has realistic expectations of what Cheechoo can produce.

"That was a real special year for him (56 goals), he’s worked extremely hard, is an intelligent guy and a real good teammate. I don’t think telling anyone that he will score 50 goals again is realistic."

He added that Cheechoo is a 25-goal man, and maybe can reach 30 again and that is what they will look for from him. If Cheechoo gets 25 goals this year I’ll be stunned. His foot speed is not good enough for him to get to the open spaces anymore. He is willing to go in the tough areas, but he can’t get there fast enough anymore.

The Sens PP is 23rd in the league and they have only drawn 51 penalties thus far, only Calgary has drawn fewer penalties, 49, but the Flames have scored 12 goals to put them 5th overall on the PP.

The Oilers have had 68 man advantages, 13th most in the league, and after their four goal performance in Colorado they sit 6th on the PP at 23.5%.

Jeff Deslauriers’ favourite team growing up was the Buffalo Sabres, so I’d guess that Khabibulin will start tonight and JDD will get the start tomorrow. With back-to-games tonight and tomorrow and then on the weekend in Atlanta and Columbus it looks like Deslauriers will double his games played in a five day span.

Report on O'Marra 

O’Marra got off to a good start in Springfield, and finally seems to understand that if he's going to play in the NHL it will be as shut-down centreman. Rob Daum told me last week on my show, that his play had tailed off a bit of late. He did respond with some better play this past weekend.

O’Marra needs to show up and be good in the faceoffs, strong on the puck and be physical. He is one of the few centremen they have in the organization who has any sort of size. If O’Marra understands he needs to be physical, not fancy, there is an opening for him on this team. They desperately lack size down the middle and if he shows he can provide that, he might not be the first guy sent down when Horcoff, Hemsky and Jacques return.

Trade... for the Rush

I know you guys love the Oilers, but the Rush will announce a major trade this afternoon. They have acquired Gavin Prout along with Dean Hill from Colorado for a 1st rounder in 2010 and a 2nd rounder in 2011. Prout and Colorado couldn’t agree on a new deal, and so the Rush made a call.

Prout is a top-ten scorer in the game. He has 230 goals and 671 points in only 127 games. He will quarterback their PP and along with Brodie Merrill the Rush finally have some elite talent. Hill might chip in if he stays healthy and in shape. In his only full season he scored 32 goals in 14 games in 2007. He was banged up last year.

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One of Canada's most versatile sports personalities. Jason hosts The Jason Gregor Show, weekdays from 2 to 6 p.m., on TSN 1260, and he writes a column every Monday in the Edmonton Journal. You can follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/JasonGregor
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#51 RossCreekNation
November 10 2009, 01:11PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

RossCreek probably calls them 'cheesy-salsa-checkered-potatoes-with-sour-cream-and-jalapenos'.

On a side note, RossCreek calls me 'Jeff' because he thinks I'm one of the Jeffs that used to post.

On another side note the new edit button also edits the quote box for whomever decides to quote your post. You can use it to make people look foolish.

LOL. I luv it. Touche Winnipeg jeff ;-)

Ahhhh... mozza fries

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#52 jeanshorts
November 10 2009, 01:13PM
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@Jason Gregor

It's funny because people either absolutely loved that movie (me, my new best friend Theo Peckham) or hated it. There's really no middle ground.

and

HOW BOUT THEM COWBOYS!

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#53 RossCreekNation
November 10 2009, 01:14PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Sorry man..movie sucked. It was awful. Micah...what a stupid name, was the lamest "I'm tough guy" ever...His rant about you are my girlfriend and this is our house made me puke in my mouth.

And until you actually voice who you cheer for in the NFL, zip it.

Micah, eh?

Like Aivazoff.

What an Oiler!

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#54 I'm a Scientist!
November 10 2009, 01:15PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

I put it in the article...what I think they will be based on some conversations...

27 89 19

91 67 13..... 85 16 34..... 18 42 46

Hey, aren't those the winning lottery tickets from Friday's 50 million Lotto Max draw???

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#55 Hemmertime
November 10 2009, 01:19PM
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Prediction: Oilers lose and get shut out again, sparking riots on Whyte.

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#56 Tracie
November 10 2009, 01:19PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

Sportsnet often showed Flames/Oilers double-headers last season, and this year they rarely, if ever do. Too many people complained about missing the first 6 minutes of the 2nd game when the 1st game was running late/going to o.t.

Also, with Sportsnet carrying the World Series, it affects the hockey at this time of the year.

There is usually a reason for the madness. 16 is too many though.

Yeah I agree, 16 is a bit much but in saying that, I'd order the game in a heart beat if I'd be home before the start of the third period...good thing there is ol' AM radio to listen to it with!

and you are right, I'd rather have options to watch the game then just to listen to it. I didn't mind the games running over eachother last year with the double headers but I people will always find something to complain about! Ah well!

GO OILERS!

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#57 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
November 10 2009, 01:21PM
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See Post #51. I love this edit button more and more every time I use it.

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#58 RossCreekNation
November 10 2009, 01:24PM
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@Tracie

Ya, I don't understand why they bitch & moan. For the most part, I'd rather see the end of any game than the beginning of any other game. As a Flames fan, I'd rather see the last 3 minutes of a close Oiler game than the first 3 minutes of a Flames game... unless of course there is a line brawl in the first 3 min. Then I'd be bitching & moaning.

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#59 Tracie
November 10 2009, 01:26PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

Ya, I don't understand why they bitch & moan. For the most part, I'd rather see the end of any game than the beginning of any other game. As a Flames fan, I'd rather see the last 3 minutes of a close Oiler game than the first 3 minutes of a Flames game... unless of course there is a line brawl in the first 3 min. Then I'd be bitching & moaning.

Yeah and the chances of that happening are slim. Although there was one game last year that they went to the Oilers game and we had already scored a goal! I'll miss the first 3 minutes of any Oilers game if that's the result! LOL!

And if there is a line brawl, they better be showing the replays over and over again so we get our fill if we do end up missing it!

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#60 RossCreekNation
November 10 2009, 01:26PM
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@Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things

So jeff84 wasn't you? K, I'm looking at you OBjr.

My mistake.

P.S. Thanx for making me look foolish.

You ARE from Winnipeg, right?

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#61 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
November 10 2009, 01:27PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

Ya, I don't understand why they bitch & moan. For the most part, I'd rather see the end of any game than the beginning of any other game. As a Flames fan, I'd rather see the last 3 minutes of a close Oiler game than the first 3 minutes of a Flames game... unless of course there is a line brawl in the first 3 min. Then I'd be bitching & moaning.

The one game we missed over half a period while the zamboni driver in the first game figured out how to clean the ice.

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#62 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
November 10 2009, 01:27PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

Ya, I don't understand why they bitch & moan. For the most part, I'd rather see the end of any game than the beginning of any other game. As a Flames fan, I'd rather see the last 3 minutes of a close Oiler game than the first 3 minutes of a Flames game... unless of course there is a line brawl in the first 3 min. Then I'd be bitching & moaning.

i dunno. the oilers tend to sh*t all over themselves during the last 3 minutes of games.

might not be a bad thing to cut to the flamers and avoid seeing the debacle that surely will take place

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#63 SportsDad
November 10 2009, 01:29PM
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Is there any word on if Florida will have MacIntyre in thier lineup or will he head to the florida farm team?

I know Quinn has said he doesn't like players whose only job is to fight, but was there not reports last year that Hemsky asked for this type of player( A true heavyweight for protection), or were those only rumours? I like Storts and all, and I think he has come along way in the last few years, but can he really provide that fear factor that MacIntyre did?

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#64 RossCreekNation
November 10 2009, 01:29PM
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Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach wrote:

The one game we missed over half a period while the zamboni driver in the first game figured out how to clean the ice.

That IS a bunch of bull then.

~It must be too hard for them to go to the 2nd game and then come back for the shootout when the 'boni man is done~

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#65 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
November 10 2009, 01:29PM
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I'm not following? I was jeff before then I changed because there was a Jeff and Jeff with numbers.

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#66 Ender
November 10 2009, 01:31PM
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Dan the Man wrote:

Tonights lines as per Sportsnet... Penner-Gagner-O'Sullivan Comrie-Brule-O'Marra Reddox-Potulny-Pisani Moreau-Coglaino-Stortini Grebeshkov-Staios Strudwick-Gilbert Smid-Visnovsky Deslauriers

Ree-hee-hee-hee-ly . . . mmmmm . . . yeah, three call-ups playing ahead of Cogs and our Captain. That does not say much about our regulars, I'm afraid. Either that, or it says far too much about our new coaches. Jason, I hope your line-up combinations are correct; I like them much better.

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#67 RossCreekNation
November 10 2009, 01:31PM
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Is there any word on if Florida will have MacIntyre in thier lineup or will he head to the florida farm team?

I know Quinn has said he doesn't like players whose only job is to fight, but was there not reports last year that Hemsky asked for this type of player( A true heavyweight for protection), or were those only rumours? I like Storts and all, and I think he has come along way in the last few years, but can he really provide that fear factor that MacIntyre did?

They cannot send him to their farm team without waiving him once again. Perhaps 2 weeks from now... then if he cleared, they could send him down, but the Oil would have the first crack at getting him back on waivers.

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#68 TonyT
November 10 2009, 01:32PM
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1) when did Nilsson get concussed? 2) what is going on on Oilers Lunch? Is that Kevin Quinn? He and Stauffer keep talking over each other.

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#69 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
November 10 2009, 01:37PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

They cannot send him to their farm team without waiving him once again. Perhaps 2 weeks from now... then if he cleared, they could send him down, but the Oil would have the first crack at getting him back on waivers.

I doubt we re-claim him but the other teams that put a claim on him(if there are any) might.

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#70 The Towel Boy
November 10 2009, 01:39PM
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Oh, I forgot to give my score prediction for this evening:

Oilcons - 3

Senators - 1

I sure hope O'Marra dazzles me. I suppose he can't be any worse than Nilsson.

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#71 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
November 10 2009, 01:39PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

So jeff84 wasn't you? K, I'm looking at you OBjr.

My mistake.

P.S. Thanx for making me look foolish.

You ARE from Winnipeg, right?

I was OBSr, briefly (or maybe OB, III. I can't really remember).

I was Jimmy before, though, and I'm from St. Albert originally. I'm living in Winnipeg right now.

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#72 BigE57
November 10 2009, 01:45PM
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TonyT wrote:

1) when did Nilsson get concussed? 2) what is going on on Oilers Lunch? Is that Kevin Quinn? He and Stauffer keep talking over each other.

My guess is way back when Nilsson signed his deal with the Oilers he saw the number on the contract, fell off his chair and hit his head on Kevin Lowes door stop and he's been concussed ever since.

I'm sure the same thing would happen to me if I ever had the winning lottery ticket.......

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#73 Racki
November 10 2009, 01:47PM
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I like Gregor's suggested lines better than what Sportsnet is reporting. Man, Cogliano gets no respect from anyone. Tired of seeing him wasted with Moreau and Stortini. He's better than that.

This team's depth (or lack of) at center is embarassing. Cogliano should be a top six winger.

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#74 rubbertrout
November 10 2009, 01:51PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Take your soother home with you. Did I force you to read it, no? The need to bitch and moan over a quick blurb is childish. Get over it.

So what would you call the need to reply to said "bitch and moan" which was only a "quick blurb itself?"

Let's not be so sensitive guys. if we can't take some good hearted shots at one another without people getting angry the terrorists have alreeady won.

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#75 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
November 10 2009, 01:52PM
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Racki wrote:

I like Gregor's suggested lines better than what Sportsnet is reporting. Man, Cogliano gets no respect from anyone. Tired of seeing him wasted with Moreau and Stortini. He's better than that.

This team's depth (or lack of) at center is embarassing. Cogliano should be a top six winger.

Starting to think Cogliano was caught sleeping with Quinn's grandaughter.

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#76 The Towel Boy
November 10 2009, 01:52PM
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Gregor, this game day article needs more pictures of Ice Girls.

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#77 Dyckster
November 10 2009, 01:54PM
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Optimist Dyckster - "This might be just what the Oilers need to right the ship. A bunch of players from the Falcons dying to make an impact in the bigs. You can bet your ass the mighty Oil win tonight."

Realist Dyckster - "We're hooped"

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#78 rubbertrout
November 10 2009, 01:55PM
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SportsDad wrote:

Is there any word on if Florida will have MacIntyre in thier lineup or will he head to the florida farm team?

I know Quinn has said he doesn't like players whose only job is to fight, but was there not reports last year that Hemsky asked for this type of player( A true heavyweight for protection), or were those only rumours? I like Storts and all, and I think he has come along way in the last few years, but can he really provide that fear factor that MacIntyre did?

Given the number of times big Mac dressed I don't know how much of an effect it would have. Tough to create an atmosphere of fear from the press box as a healthy scratch.

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#79 jeanshorts
November 10 2009, 01:55PM
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rubbertrout wrote:

So what would you call the need to reply to said "bitch and moan" which was only a "quick blurb itself?"

Let's not be so sensitive guys. if we can't take some good hearted shots at one another without people getting angry the terrorists have alreeady won.

There's also a big difference between busting balls, and being an insufferable c*nt. And unfortunately there's been far more douchebaggery around here in the last few months than playful banter.

And furthermore we shou.......DID YOU SAY TERRORISTS???

*locks himself in his underground Y2K bunker, filled with H1N1 vaccines and Mr. Noodles*

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#80 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
November 10 2009, 01:55PM
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Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach wrote:

Starting to think Cogliano was caught sleeping with Quinn's grandaughter.

I think she's probably old enough to be Cogs' mom.

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#81 smiliegirl15
November 10 2009, 01:57PM
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Listening to the Oilers game on the radio is even way better than watching a flames game, free or not.

PPV is a good excuse to go down to the pub with your friends to watch the game.

@jeanshorts

What? No granola bars and gatorade???

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#82 BarryS
November 10 2009, 01:59PM
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Tracie wrote:

This is true. There just seems to be a lot more PPV games this year then last. I think 5 more games if I'm correct. last year there were 11 games, this year 16! Just seems like a big jump considering every game was on TV last year as well...

There are so many because the networks do not want to take them. Now is the time for sportsnet 2 or TSN 3 - all hockey, all the time.

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#83 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
November 10 2009, 02:00PM
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smiliegirl15 wrote:

Listening to the Oilers game on the radio is even way better than watching a flames game, free or not.

PPV is a good excuse to go down to the pub with your friends to watch the game.

@jeanshorts

What? No granola bars and gatorade???

Can't stand 630 ched radio for the Oilers or Eskimos, both guys lost it years ago.

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#84 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
November 10 2009, 02:01PM
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BarryS wrote:

There are so many because the networks do not want to take them. Now is the time for sportsnet 2 or TSN 3 - all hockey, all the time.

I really thought TSN 2 would mean that we would have more games on TV. I guess I was wrong.

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#85 SirFozz
November 10 2009, 02:03PM
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BarryS wrote:

There are so many because the networks do not want to take them. Now is the time for sportsnet 2 or TSN 3 - all hockey, all the time.

~Yes, because Sportsnet has all that extra talent waiting in the wing.~

More TSN hockey works for me though.

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#86 Maggie the Monkey
November 10 2009, 02:38PM
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If the Internet Hockey Database is right, this will be O'Marra's first NHL game. His family will probably rush up to Ottawa from Missassauga and then trek down to Buffalo for tomorrow's game, too. (I can't believe that my schedule is keeping me from that game. Stupid work.)

I think a successful night for him would include a lack of glaring errors, somewhere around a 45% faceoff percentage, and if the opportunity presents itself, one or two hard hits.

Regardless of how short his stay is or how little impact he may have, it's always fun to think about a player's first game in the league. I can hardly imagine how surreal it would be to suddenly find yourself out on the ice taking a draw against Spezza, which is likely to happen in a road game.

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#87 jeanshorts
November 10 2009, 02:42PM
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@smiliegirl15

If I put all my granola bars and Gatorade in the shelter, what the hell am I supposed to use to seduce ladies?

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#88 Maggie the Monkey
November 10 2009, 02:43PM
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Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach wrote:

Can't stand 630 ched radio for the Oilers or Eskimos, both guys lost it years ago.

Blasphemer! Rod Phillips still has the magic: it's the team that he's calling that has hasn't been bringing enough spice lately.

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#89 jeanshorts
November 10 2009, 02:45PM
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@Maggie the Monkey

No doubt. And I think it's fun trying to decipher what he's saying when the action really picks up and he starts stammering. Actually the best part is when the team is playing horrendously and he starts teeing off on guys. I'm looking at you Robbie Nilsson! Is there anyway they can put Rod in the Hall Of Fame twice?

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#91 DK0
November 10 2009, 02:50PM
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My favorite is when the refs are continually making bad calls. I think that is the thing that makes Rod FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU the hardest (haha just saw these today for the first time, couple are NSFW)
http://www.sharenator.org/FFFFFUUUUUUUUU/

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#93 swany
November 10 2009, 02:54PM
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Off topic but can someone tell me what a Oilers away jersey with Sheldon Sourays signature is worth? It doesn't have his name and # on the back but it is an offical game jersey with his signature on the crest with his # thanks it's for an auction and I need a value

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#94 jeanshorts
November 10 2009, 02:58PM
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@swany

1 BILLION DOLLARS!

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#95 Racki
November 10 2009, 03:04PM
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swany wrote:

Off topic but can someone tell me what a Oilers away jersey with Sheldon Sourays signature is worth? It doesn't have his name and # on the back but it is an offical game jersey with his signature on the crest with his # thanks it's for an auction and I need a value

I'd guess around maybe $200, since it's not crested.

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#96 Dyckster
November 10 2009, 03:08PM
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swany wrote:

Off topic but can someone tell me what a Oilers away jersey with Sheldon Sourays signature is worth? It doesn't have his name and # on the back but it is an offical game jersey with his signature on the crest with his # thanks it's for an auction and I need a value

@swany

you should try and get a hold of the helmut Big Sexy used to cover his wanker with in the ESPN photo shoot. I'm sure there'd be multiple females bidding atrocious amounts of money for that piece of history!

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#97 Eric Johnson
November 10 2009, 03:15PM
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I have a question. Why hasn't Chis Minard been called up?

I thought he was slated above O'Marra, or could this be a chance to showcase O'Marra as part of a trade?

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#98 The Real Scuba Steve
November 10 2009, 03:17PM
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It must be nice seeing a team making a trade to improve their team.

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#99 swany
November 10 2009, 03:19PM
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Eric Johnson wrote:

I have a question. Why hasn't Chis Minard been called up?

I thought he was slated above O'Marra, or could this be a chance to showcase O'Marra as part of a trade?

Because he's hurt

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#100 Racki
November 10 2009, 03:21PM
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Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Minard is also signed to an AHL contract as well (i.e. the Oilers would have to sign him to an NHL contract to play up here). Can't confirm that though.

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