UPDATED! Mr Poopy Pants II: Dany Comes Calling

Robin Brownlee
November 26 2009 09:29PM

HERE IT IS OFFICIALLY, as per Oilers release: OILERS HEMSKY TO HAVE SURGERY General Manager Steve Tambellini announced today right winger Ales Hemsky will undergo surgery to repair his left shoulder. Hemsky, 26, has played in 22 games this season recording seven goals and 15 assists.  The Pardubice,Czech native has played his entire career with the Oilers skating in 443 games, tallying 353 points, including his 100th career goal on November 23 vs. the Phoenix Coyotes.

UPDATE FROM ROBIN B (12:42 MST):  Given Quinn's reaction to the question about surgery being needed for Hemsky, we can only wait and see on this one. I'm trying to provide ON readers with the most up-to-date stuff here and I felt based on what I was told and who told me it was worth posting. The rumour spread pretty quickly among reporters this morning and I don't know if other outlets posted items, but they were certainly all over it when word got out. All I can tell you is my info didn't come from that "Did you hear about Hemsky?" buzz among reporters. All I can say at this point is I'm still inclined to believe what I was told -- I don't see why Hemsky would meet with doctors today to discuss the MRI if the opinion was "it'll be fine with 10 days rest."  If the team provides an update, you'll get it here.

FURTHER UPDATE (11:26 MST): The Oilers have not confirmed the need for Hemsky to have surgery. At his availability with media after the morning skate, Coach Pat Quinn said Hemsky is meeting with doctors today to discuss the results of Thursday's MRI. When asked about the possibility of surgery for Hemsky, Quinn said, "I'm not aware of anything like that." Stay tuned for more details over the day.

UPDATE FROM BROWNLEE (10:30 MST): I'm hearing that Ales Hemsky will need surgery and is likely done for the rest of the season. No official word from the Oilers yet. Will update later.

Fans can boo Dany Heatley until their vocal chords are raw and they spew $8 beers Friday, but chances are he's going to get the last laugh when the San Jose Sharks beat the Edmonton Oilers at Rexall Place.>

The fact is, Heatley, who flipped off the Oilers last summer when he refused to waive a no-movement clause that would have brought him to Edmonton from the Ottawa Senators for Dustin Penner, Andrew Cogliano and Ladislav Smid, is already laughing out loud at our expense because he got what he wanted -- and that wasn't the City of Champions.

Heatley's playing for a better team than the Oilers in the Western Conference leading Sharks. He's drawing his $8-million salary in the Silicon Valley, away from the fanatical fishbowl-like existence that is Edmonton. And, just to rub it in, he's among NHL leaders with 18 goals and 29 points.

I'm relatively certain, then, Heatley will manage to stay composed when an angry Oilers faithful gets after him before, during and after the Sharks take out their frustrations on the Oilers after losing 7-2 to Chicago Wednesday.

"Heatley sucks. Heatley sucks." Yes, that'll shake him up.

Just another game

I'm guessing Heatley will spin Friday as just another game when reporters ask about his first visit to Edmonton since he queered the deal and made Kevin Lowe and Steve Tambellini beg last summer.

The Oilers, still stinging from Wednesday's 3-1 loss to the Los Angeles Kings, certainly did so this morning when asked about Heatley. What else are they going to say? "Screw you, Heater. You could have been a part of this . . ."

"It's one of those things that got made up bigger than it probably should have," coach Pat Quinn said.

"It was an attempt to bring Heatley to this hockey club. It didn't happen. You move on. It should be gone. It doesn't matter. He's a good player. He's a good kid, but he plays for someone else. We don't care about that."

With the Oilers slipping out of playoff contention with four wins and a 4-10-2 record in their last 16 games, Quinn's take is the pragmatic approach. He's certainly got bigger problems.

Fans, though, will want their pound of flesh, even if trying to collect it will come on a night when Heatley and the Sharks are likely to put the wood to the Oilers after getting embarrassed by Chicago. If Matt Greene can stick it to his former team, I shudder to think what Heatley might do.

Good luck with that.

That's leadership

When reporters asked Quinn this morning why so many players were missing for a workout at Millennium Place, he said he wanted to rest players who'd been playing a lot of minutes during a stretch that'll see the Oilers play four games in six nights.

Sorry coach, not buying that reasoning, not with the Oilers having days off between their last three games and with two days off before they play six straight games on the road.

Every able-bodied player should have been on the ice today. No problem with Ales Hemsky, injured on a dirty hit by Michal Handzus, not being there. That goes without saying. For that matter, the same goes for Shawn Horcoff, who has been playing with a bad shoulder.

But what good reason, unless there are injuries we haven't been told about, is there for captain Ethan Moreau, Steve Staios, Sheldon Souray and Dustin Penner not to be on the ice with the kids and the grunts today after stiffing against the Kings? Lubomir Visnovsky, who plays eight minutes more a night than the captain, practised, but not Moreau? Not Penner?

And . . .

-- Manny Malhotra, signed by the Sharks for a bargain basement $700,000 after pricing himself out of the UFA market early in the summer, is winning face-offs at a 60.8 per cent clip in San Jose. He's scored 4-4-8. Think the Oilers could have got him for less than the $1.25 million they offered Mike Comrie?

-- Robert Nilsson, Marc Pouliot and Ryan Stone all skated today. Nilsson put in extra work and was one of the last players off the ice. Can't see him being ready for San Jose, not with Ryan O'Marra and Colin McDonald summoned from Springfield.

-- Listen to Robin Brownlee every Wednesday and Thursday from 4 to 6 p.m. on Just A Game with Jason Gregor on TEAM 1260.

 

 

 

General Manager Steve Tambellini announced today right winger Ales Hemsky will undergo surgery to repair his left shoulder. Hemsky, 26, has played in 22 games this season recording seven goals and 15 assists.  The Pardubice,Czech native has played his entire career with the Oilers skating in 443 games, tallying 353 points, including his 100th career goal on November 23 vs. the Phoenix Coyotes.

 

 

 

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#151 Dyckster
November 27 2009, 12:56PM
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If Hemsky is in fact gone for the year, does his salary fall off the books?

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#152 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
November 27 2009, 12:58PM
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Dyckster wrote:

If Hemsky is in fact gone for the year, does his salary fall off the books?

They'd put him on LTIR and the team would be eligible to apply to go over the cap by a pro-rated amount based on the remaining amount in Hemsky's contract for this year.

Note: Any of you who are 'in the know' can feel free to correct me on this.

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#153 bingofuel
November 27 2009, 12:59PM
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Milli wrote:

Oh ya, I will send someone the 8 bucks if they nail Poopypants with a RX beer!!!

Easy there, sailor. We can't sanction the launching of RX1 beers at Dany Heatley. That would be a tremendous waste of precious, precious suds.

How about the boys just show Heatley how we welcome other teams here: we beat them.

Don't we? Guys?

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#154 roughneck
November 27 2009, 01:03PM
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Personally I propose keeping eberle as far away from this mess as possible for as long as possible.

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#155 Dyckster
November 27 2009, 01:04PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

They'd put him on LTIR and the team would be eligible to apply to go over the cap by a pro-rated amount based on the remaining amount in Hemsky's contract for this year.

Note: Any of you who are 'in the know' can feel free to correct me on this.

Thanks,

The reason I ask? For every person that says they'd like the Oil to tank for a chance at Taylor or Tyler, there's as equal an amount of folks that'll say make a trade utilizing our potential new found cap space and go for it.

Me? This may sound corny, but all I'm asking for is a solid effort by whoever plays and let the chips fall. Not a great plan for the future, but tanking on purpose would be downright wrong.

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#156 Dan the Man
November 27 2009, 01:04PM
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bingofuel wrote:

Easy there, sailor. We can't sanction the launching of RX1 beers at Dany Heatley. That would be a tremendous waste of precious, precious suds.

How about the boys just show Heatley how we welcome other teams here: we beat them.

Don't we? Guys?

*crickets*

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#157 jeanshorts
November 27 2009, 01:09PM
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Wow what a beautiful morning. It finally stopped raining. It's nice and sunny. Guess I'll check out Oilers Nation. Hmmm an update on the Brownlee article, I wonder what it sa...OHMYGODWEAREALLDOOMED!!!!!

*dusts off his Y2K survival kit and locks himself inside his end of the world bunker AKA a pillow fort*

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#158 Chamucks Deluxe
November 27 2009, 01:19PM
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At least I won't have to read through the "trad hemsky hes a pasenjer on dis teem an not teh leader he shud B!111!!one!!"

Alwayyyyys a silver lining. FML

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#159 Dyckster
November 27 2009, 01:19PM
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hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL9180I_4WQ

Is the name of that comet Handzus? Apparently we've reached December 21, 2012 in Oilerville.

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#160 freeze
November 27 2009, 01:20PM
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bingofuel wrote:

Easy there, sailor. We can't sanction the launching of RX1 beers at Dany Heatley. That would be a tremendous waste of precious, precious suds.

How about the boys just show Heatley how we welcome other teams here: we beat them.

Don't we? Guys?

*crickets chirp*

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#161 freeze
November 27 2009, 01:20PM
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@Dan the Man

lol, beat me to the punch!! well done, sire!

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#162 BarryS
November 27 2009, 01:24PM
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Gunner wrote:

It won't matter if we have the same players for all 82 games. The make up of the team isn't what it needs to be and it's painfully obvious.

Barry take off your rose colored glasses. Our "guaranteed" players aren't good.

Tell me how exactly getting a top 5 pick will solve nothing?

Depends on how you interpret solve? Next year it will solve nothing, just like Gagner his first year and Eberle this year. In a year or two, perhaps three, maybe. Seems to me Phoenix has a number of Number I's and Doan, after several years is the only star of the bunch so far. Who can you name became a star their first year in the league?

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#163 BarryS
November 27 2009, 01:29PM
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jeanshorts wrote:

Wow what a beautiful morning. It finally stopped raining. It's nice and sunny. Guess I'll check out Oilers Nation. Hmmm an update on the Brownlee article, I wonder what it sa...OHMYGODWEAREALLDOOMED!!!!!

*dusts off his Y2K survival kit and locks himself inside his end of the world bunker AKA a pillow fort*

What, didn't you hear, Y2K survival kits expired 01/01/00 or was it 01/01/01, I forget which, after you spent the last overtime cheque, whichever came first.

One who got paid to stay up until after midnight for several days prior and during.

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#164 Milli
November 27 2009, 01:30PM
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bingofuel wrote:

Easy there, sailor. We can't sanction the launching of RX1 beers at Dany Heatley. That would be a tremendous waste of precious, precious suds.

How about the boys just show Heatley how we welcome other teams here: we beat them.

Don't we? Guys?

Ya well, as long as you aren't throwing your hat out there for him!!!!!!

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#165 Giggsunited
November 27 2009, 01:30PM
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let me guess, no changes will come for the team anytime soon! "we believe we have the necessary skill and attributes to have a winner, we just need time to have a healthy roster!" hahahahaha stop the insanity!

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#166 BarryS
November 27 2009, 01:34PM
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Dyckster wrote:

hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL9180I_4WQ

Is the name of that comet Handzus? Apparently we've reached December 21, 2012 in Oilerville.

For everyone who believes the 12/21/12 silliness. Cleaning up the basement and have discovered a limited supply of Y2...., I mean 12/21/12 survival kits for sale at the price of 122,112.00 dollars each. Get your genuine 12/21/12 survival before all those chear knockoffs become available.

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#167 Giggsunited
November 27 2009, 01:35PM
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and really, I dont think we need to go out and trade everyone. We just need to move the team, 2 years from now say sorry and pay for an expansion. That way we can pick and choose probably better players through an expansion draft? I like

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#168 Ogden Brother
November 27 2009, 01:36PM
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BarryS wrote:

Depends on how you interpret solve? Next year it will solve nothing, just like Gagner his first year and Eberle this year. In a year or two, perhaps three, maybe. Seems to me Phoenix has a number of Number I's and Doan, after several years is the only star of the bunch so far. Who can you name became a star their first year in the league?

It's not just about next year Barry. Any pick can be a bust, but statistically speaking the top 3 (and of course 1st overall is even moreso) have a far greater chance of being a super star then even 6/7/8 (etc etc).

It's obviously a tough choice to make (seeing as selling doesn't guarantee you will be top 3...nor does buying or staying stagnant mean you'll be out of the top 3). But getting another 10/11/12 pick is not the answer.

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#169 BarryS
November 27 2009, 01:37PM
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Giggsunited wrote:

let me guess, no changes will come for the team anytime soon! "we believe we have the necessary skill and attributes to have a winner, we just need time to have a healthy roster!" hahahahaha stop the insanity!

If you can get healthy players for injured players go ahead. I have a broken car I'll trade you for a working one.

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#170 Ogden Brother
November 27 2009, 01:37PM
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BarryS wrote:

Depends on how you interpret solve? Next year it will solve nothing, just like Gagner his first year and Eberle this year. In a year or two, perhaps three, maybe. Seems to me Phoenix has a number of Number I's and Doan, after several years is the only star of the bunch so far. Who can you name became a star their first year in the league?

Also, Pheonix doesn't have any #1's.

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#171 BarryS
November 27 2009, 01:40PM
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Ogden Brother wrote:

It's not just about next year Barry. Any pick can be a bust, but statistically speaking the top 3 (and of course 1st overall is even moreso) have a far greater chance of being a super star then even 6/7/8 (etc etc).

It's obviously a tough choice to make (seeing as selling doesn't guarantee you will be top 3...nor does buying or staying stagnant mean you'll be out of the top 3). But getting another 10/11/12 pick is not the answer.

I agree in principal but how willing are the paying fans to wait the two or three years of high draft choices before we become better than we are now? One high draft choice might make a little difference in two or three years, but it will take more than one to make a big difference.

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#172 BarryS
November 27 2009, 01:41PM
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Ogden Brother wrote:

Also, Pheonix doesn't have any #1's.

They had high draft choices, though. Essentially the same thing.

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#173 Reagan
November 27 2009, 01:42PM
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Silence is what Rexall needs tonight. DO NOT BOO...

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#174 Gunner
November 27 2009, 01:44PM
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BarryS wrote:

Depends on how you interpret solve? Next year it will solve nothing, just like Gagner his first year and Eberle this year. In a year or two, perhaps three, maybe. Seems to me Phoenix has a number of Number I's and Doan, after several years is the only star of the bunch so far. Who can you name became a star their first year in the league?

Really?

Ok. Here we go...

From 2005.. Sydney Crosby, Bobby Ryan, Jack Johnson, Carey Price, Devin Setogouchi, Luc Bourdon...

From 2006.. Erik Johnson, Jordan Staal, Jonathan Toews, Niklas Backstrom, Phil Kessel, Derek Brassard, Kyle Okposo, Peter Mueller..

From 2007..Patrick Kane, James Van Riemsdyk, Thomas Hickey, Sam Gagner, Jakub Voracek..

From 2008..Steven Stamkos, Drew Doughty, Zach Bogosian, Alex Pietrangelo, Luke Schenn, Colin Wilson..

From 2009.. John Tavares, Viktor Hedman, Matt Duchene, Evander Kane..

You need to look big picture here. In the top ten there are always some stud prospects and don't tell me we wouldn't benefit from scooping one up..

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#175 SportsDad
November 27 2009, 01:45PM
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If the Oilers had one of these packages, I would forget all about Hemsky and the rest of the Oiler injuries.

http://stars.nhl.tv/team/console.jsp?catid=709&id=51880

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#176 Dyckster
November 27 2009, 01:46PM
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BarryS wrote:

For everyone who believes the 12/21/12 silliness. Cleaning up the basement and have discovered a limited supply of Y2...., I mean 12/21/12 survival kits for sale at the price of 122,112.00 dollars each. Get your genuine 12/21/12 survival before all those chear knockoffs become available.

Easy big fella, I forgot the ~~.

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#177 David S
November 27 2009, 01:46PM
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Brownlee : (furiously typing updates) ON readers, breaking news!

Ogden Brother : Hemsky needs surgery!

Dyckster : Quinn denies!

Jeanshorts : There's a sale at Penny's!

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#178 Eric Johnson
November 27 2009, 01:47PM
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jeanshorts wrote:

Wow what a beautiful morning. It finally stopped raining. It's nice and sunny. Guess I'll check out Oilers Nation. Hmmm an update on the Brownlee article, I wonder what it sa...OHMYGODWEAREALLDOOMED!!!!!

*dusts off his Y2K survival kit and locks himself inside his end of the world bunker AKA a pillow fort*

I nominate this for Comment of the week honors.

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#179 Ogden Brother
November 27 2009, 01:47PM
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BarryS wrote:

They had high draft choices, though. Essentially the same thing.

Not all the same thing, in fact it's the heart of the debate.

This decade they've drafted

19 11 19 No first 5 17 8 3 (in a weak draft) 8 6

Kind of like the Oilers, close enough to get decent players... but not high enough to get a star.

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#180 jeanshorts
November 27 2009, 01:49PM
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BarryS wrote:

I agree in principal but how willing are the paying fans to wait the two or three years of high draft choices before we become better than we are now? One high draft choice might make a little difference in two or three years, but it will take more than one to make a big difference.

I see your point, but the "how long are we willing to wait" argument seems like a moot point. We're on our 4th losing season in a row, and have only made the playoffs 3 times this decade. People haven't jumped ship yet, why would they leave after the Oilers drafted a Taylor Hall or a Seguin? Not that the Oilers should try and tank or whatever, but just theoretically if it does happen.

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#181 Ogden Brother
November 27 2009, 01:49PM
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Gunner wrote:

Really?

Ok. Here we go...

From 2005.. Sydney Crosby, Bobby Ryan, Jack Johnson, Carey Price, Devin Setogouchi, Luc Bourdon...

From 2006.. Erik Johnson, Jordan Staal, Jonathan Toews, Niklas Backstrom, Phil Kessel, Derek Brassard, Kyle Okposo, Peter Mueller..

From 2007..Patrick Kane, James Van Riemsdyk, Thomas Hickey, Sam Gagner, Jakub Voracek..

From 2008..Steven Stamkos, Drew Doughty, Zach Bogosian, Alex Pietrangelo, Luke Schenn, Colin Wilson..

From 2009.. John Tavares, Viktor Hedman, Matt Duchene, Evander Kane..

You need to look big picture here. In the top ten there are always some stud prospects and don't tell me we wouldn't benefit from scooping one up..

I hope that isn't your list of players who were a star in their first year in the league...

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#182 Gunner
November 27 2009, 01:53PM
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Ogden Brother wrote:

I hope that isn't your list of players who were a star in their first year in the league...

Nope. Stud prospects drafted in the top ten. Perhaps not as much as a crapshoot as BarryS thinks.

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#183 Dyckster
November 27 2009, 01:53PM
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David S wrote:

Brownlee : (furiously typing updates) ON readers, breaking news!

Ogden Brother : Hemsky needs surgery!

Dyckster : Quinn denies!

Jeanshorts : There's a sale at Penny's!

huh?

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#184 David S
November 27 2009, 01:55PM
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@ Dyckster - You've never seen Airplane?

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#185 Giggsunited
November 27 2009, 01:56PM
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Have you ever been to a Turkish prison camp?

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#186 rubbertrout
November 27 2009, 01:56PM
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jeanshorts wrote:

I see your point, but the "how long are we willing to wait" argument seems like a moot point. We're on our 4th losing season in a row, and have only made the playoffs 3 times this decade. People haven't jumped ship yet, why would they leave after the Oilers drafted a Taylor Hall or a Seguin? Not that the Oilers should try and tank or whatever, but just theoretically if it does happen.

Don't you guys know that we are only on year 4 of a 15 year rebuilding plan? Patience please.

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#187 BarryS
November 27 2009, 01:56PM
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Dyckster wrote:

Easy big fella, I forgot the ~~.

I know. Just couldn't have fun with all the lemmings out there who have to follow a leader, any leader, even an empty headed one.

The only thing I know for sure, no prediction of the future has ever come true, except we all die sometime . . . I think.

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#188 Ogden Brother
November 27 2009, 01:58PM
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Gunner wrote:

Nope. Stud prospects drafted in the top ten. Perhaps not as much as a crapshoot as BarryS thinks.

Alot of those guys still haven't done anything.

Anyways: Odds are you need to be top 3 to get a true star. %'s drop significantly after that.

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#189 BarryS
November 27 2009, 01:58PM
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rubbertrout wrote:

Don't you guys know that we are only on year 4 of a 15 year rebuilding plan? Patience please.

At least we are not as bad and the Soviet GM's whose team went out of business after 60 years without even a single 5 year plan being completed.

Yet.

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#190 Giggsunited
November 27 2009, 01:58PM
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Here's a prediction, Oilers 1 Sharks 8

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#191 Gunner
November 27 2009, 02:00PM
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Ogden Brother wrote:

Alot of those guys still haven't done anything.

Anyways: Odds are you need to be top 3 to get a true star. %'s drop significantly after that.

Who hasn't done anything?

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#192 rubbertrout
November 27 2009, 02:00PM
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Dyckster wrote:

huh?

The correct reply is "Seven Dollars" when you don't know or understand. Always throw something nonnsensical in there to make sure nobody takes you seriously.

For example . . .

The Edmonton Oilers will win the Stanley Cup in the 2009-10 season.

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#193 Rob...
November 27 2009, 02:00PM
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So a guy who owns chains of stores and products for dealing with the sick & injured ends up buying the Oilers and we get never-ending seasons of illness and injury. Thankgod he wasn't a funeral home magnate.

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#194 Dyckster
November 27 2009, 02:05PM
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rubbertrout wrote:

The correct reply is "Seven Dollars" when you don't know or understand. Always throw something nonnsensical in there to make sure nobody takes you seriously.

For example . . .

The Edmonton Oilers will win the Stanley Cup in the 2009-10 season.

Seven MILLION Dollars....

How's that?

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#195 BarryS
November 27 2009, 02:07PM
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Gunner wrote:

Nope. Stud prospects drafted in the top ten. Perhaps not as much as a crapshoot as BarryS thinks.

The point was not about getting a stud prospect or good player, but getting one to be a star in the year they were selected.

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#196 BarryS
November 27 2009, 02:08PM
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rubbertrout wrote:

The correct reply is "Seven Dollars" when you don't know or understand. Always throw something nonnsensical in there to make sure nobody takes you seriously.

For example . . .

The Edmonton Oilers will win the Stanley Cup in the 2009-10 season.

Are you sure he did not mean 3009-10 season?

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#197 BarryS
November 27 2009, 02:09PM
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Giggsunited wrote:

Here's a prediction, Oilers 1 Sharks 8

~We get a goal! We get a goal!~

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#198 Shawn Cronin
November 27 2009, 02:10PM
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Kevin Lowe: "With the First Pick overall in the 2011 entry draft, the Edmonton Oilers select, from the Edmonton Oil Kings, Keegan Lowe!!!!!"

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#199 Dyckster
November 27 2009, 02:10PM
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For the love of pete, can someone please edumicate me on how to highlight only a certain part of a quote?

On another note....Tiger Woods in a car accident, news says seriously injured but the quotes say he was treated for facial injuries and released....

Sorry to thread jack.

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#200 Gunner
November 27 2009, 02:12PM
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BarryS wrote:

The point was not about getting a stud prospect or good player, but getting one to be a star in the year they were selected.

You can't win this race overnight. Why can't you understand that?

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