Oilers vs. Canucks Postgame: Shooter Tutors

Jonathan Willis
November 29 2009 12:46AM

Vancouver Canucks: 7

Edmonton Oilers: 3

Remember shooter tutors?  Well, for good portions of the night the inexperienced tandem of Jeff Deslauriers and Devan Dubnyk eerily resembled shooter tutors; not so much along the ice but certainly over the shoulders.  It's been Deslauriers' weak spot for the last while and it was hard to watch the Canucks tonight and not think they'd been told to aim for the corners.

Random Thoughts

Jeff Deslauriers said after the game that the loss was on him, that he cost the team the game.  While he certainly wasn't sharp, I'm going to agree with Pat Quinn, who appreciated the gesture but acknowledged that it was a team loss.

Not many things can make me grin ear-to-ear when the Oilers are down 5-1, but Colin McDonald's first career goal was one of them.  It was a beautiful shot on a quality goaltender, and after years of hearing Kevin Prendergast talk about McDonald's shot being one of his greatest assets it was nice to see it at the NHL level.  I also liked seeing Ryan O'Marra's reaction (aside: the assist was O'Marra's first NHL point) to McDonald's goal; he seemed almost as thrilled as his teammate.  They were linemates in Springfield, and it was great to see that bond.  While I'm at it, I should acknowledge the fourth line was tremendous; it's easy to see why Rob Daum's been raving about both McDonald and O'Marra, and Stortini's found a comfort level with them.

I get the feeling it's going to be important to find things like that to focus on as this season continues.

The penalty kill was probably the worst part of the Oilers' game tonight, and that's on the veterans.  Speaking of veterans, Souray, Staios and the one-armed ghost of Shawn Horcoff all struggled for (at least) the second straight game.  Tom Renney switched to a Gilbert/Souray pairing in the third which should help, although that leaves Staios and Strudwick paired together and their track record isn't encouraging.  As for Horcoff, he had a couple of good shifts but for the most part didn't  handle the puck well at all, and it seems like he's in the right spots but can't fight the physical battles.

Brule and Penner both had a nice game offensively, and looked very smooth on the power play.  The only bad news about Brule (from an Oilers' perspective) stepping up to help carry the offence is that he's a free agent after this season; he could very well use this opportunity to earn a payday that wouldn't be coming otherwise.  That caveat aside, it's nice to see a player who struggled for so many years start to turn a corner.

I've been picking on Andrew Cogliano a fair bit this year, but he certainly seems to have come around (Moreau too, for that matter).  Ryan Potulny probably matches up a little better to those linemates than Zack Stortini did, and I'm sure that's part of it (as is having Cogliano play wing) but both players deserve a ton of credit.  It's also a treat to watch Cogliano's combative nature; he has been very involved in that department the last few games. 

 

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#151 Rigger
November 29 2009, 09:38PM
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So then does someone wanna answer my earlier question of why they credited that first goal to Brule, when it went of Gagner's body?

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#152 Rigger
November 29 2009, 09:41PM
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@Wanyes bastard child

I got distracted with finishing watching The Goods, which was pretty mediocre.

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#153 Maggie the Monkey
November 29 2009, 09:41PM
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Heavyd wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised if deepoil was klowe, or someone within the organization, considering brownlee knows him. Anyways, I was the looking at the schedule and I rthink the oilers will be able to go 10-4 in december, anyone think I am crazy, if so look at the schedule and it could happen.

You've got it all wrong, Heavyd. The bandwagon has shifted and we're all pulling for losses now, not wins.

Looking at the schedule, the key teams to lose to in December are Minny, Toronto, and Florida. If Khabibulin manages to stay hurt, this will greatly increase our odds (of loosing), and if the boys do any BETTER than 4 - 10 I'll be disappointed.

What are you smoking, by the way, and where did you get it?

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#154 JackBauer
November 29 2009, 09:43PM
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So Robin, I have two questions.

1) Who is Deep Oil and what is his role in this whole fiasco?

2) Is he as crazy in person as he appears on this here message board?

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#155 Jeff
November 29 2009, 09:48PM
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@Rigger

Maybe the refs were trying to send him a message about the proper way to celebrate a goal when your team is down 4-0. Jumping into the glass might be okay for an OT winner, but not when your team is getting dominated.

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#156 BarryS
November 29 2009, 09:50PM
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Maggie the Monkey wrote:

You've got it all wrong, Heavyd. The bandwagon has shifted and we're all pulling for losses now, not wins.

Looking at the schedule, the key teams to lose to in December are Minny, Toronto, and Florida. If Khabibulin manages to stay hurt, this will greatly increase our odds (of loosing), and if the boys do any BETTER than 4 - 10 I'll be disappointed.

What are you smoking, by the way, and where did you get it?

Well, not everyone. True fans stick with the team through bad times and the occasional good times as well. Alas, for ever team, except perhaps the Habs who used to have a whole province to draw on first, besides their regular shot at the rest of Canada, good times are measured in years not decades.

As for winning or loosing, not every team will have the luck get so many shots under the bar, Vancouver did, especially if we actually learn to get pressure on the shooters. Most players with as much time to pick their spots as we gave Vancouver, should be able to put three or four into the top corner.

When you are young, Success is fleet of foot, hard times just seem to plod along.

All you youngsters are the victims of the experience/time works, when you are young, the good things seem to fly by and the bad drag on forecer. As you get older, you will discover the bad days go just as fast as the good ones.

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#157 BarryS
November 29 2009, 09:53PM
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Jeff wrote:

Maybe the refs were trying to send him a message about the proper way to celebrate a goal when your team is down 4-0. Jumping into the glass might be okay for an OT winner, but not when your team is getting dominated.

Actually, the scorers are local guys like hit recorders, and shot counters. They have no necessity of getting who scored right, it's bad enough they have to record an opposition goal. It not like some PO'd home team player with bonuses to collect might be waiting outside the exit to tune them in after the game.

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#158 Rigger
November 29 2009, 09:54PM
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@Jeff

Except the refs don't decide who gets credit for a goal, that's up to the NHL judges in TO.

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#159 BarryS
November 29 2009, 09:57PM
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@Rigger

Same with them as 157 above.

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#160 Rigger
November 29 2009, 10:00PM
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Yeah Barry, I saw that after I posted. I assume though, that those local boys are employed in some form by the NHL. The old fart at RX1 who runs the clock wears a suit jacket with and NHL crest on it, so I assume that whoever is assessing who get goal credit works for the league.

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#161 Heavyd
November 29 2009, 10:02PM
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Maggie the Monkey wrote:

You've got it all wrong, Heavyd. The bandwagon has shifted and we're all pulling for losses now, not wins.

Looking at the schedule, the key teams to lose to in December are Minny, Toronto, and Florida. If Khabibulin manages to stay hurt, this will greatly increase our odds (of loosing), and if the boys do any BETTER than 4 - 10 I'll be disappointed.

What are you smoking, by the way, and where did you get it?

Im not going to get on any bandwagon. I am an oiler fan, and I only cheer for them to win not to lose. So I am going to look ahead and hope for wins and that they can turn this season around, and I am not going to cheer for a lottery pick or a losing season.

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#162 Maggie the Monkey
November 29 2009, 10:07PM
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@BarryS

I think it's possible to love a team so much that you support their loosing. I don't view this as quitting on them by any means - it's painful as hell to hope that they don't succeed this year, and if my brother read that I'm rooting against them he'd kick my ass.

It's just tough to picture how this team could recover enough to be competitive this year, not to mention actually contend for anything. I believe that there are a lot better long term solutions than the quick fixes it would take to get them into the playoffs (if this is even possible), and the only way the longer term fixes will happen if they lose.

One possible scenario is with Moreau. I've long been a supporter of him, even through the rough stretch he went through earlier this season and even last year. Somehow many fans quickly forgot (or never knew) that he played with a broken hand for half of last year, and his dedication to the team is vastly under-appreciated. If he's able to continue his improved play of late, there might be a playoff bound team who is willing to trade, say, a second round pick for him (in a draft that's not looking too deep). It makes better sense for this potential trade to happen if the Oil aren't near the playoffs, and as much as I'd rather see him and the Oilers compete for the cup this year, I just don't see it happening. This scenario may be a painful yet fruitful option.

Finally, I don't think I suggested that I'm not going to "stick with them"; I'm just doing it in a different way than you.

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#163 BarryS
November 29 2009, 10:07PM
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Of course, but they are still on site and pure self preservation says they will be more careful with the home guys. I mean, players are better behaved now than a long time ago, but then these guys were probably about when they were not and so learned to walk carefully around the players, as it were.

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#164 Maggie the Monkey
November 29 2009, 10:11PM
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@Heavyd

Fair enough. I shouldn't have suggested that you stop pulling for them to win, maybe it's just the way I'm coping with this dismal season.

In all honesty, even though my reasoned opinion is that it would be better in the long run if they lose right now, every time I watch them play (which is just about every game) it feels like 1983 when I cheered like an idiot for them to beat the Islanders.

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#165 BarryS
November 29 2009, 10:21PM
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Maggie the Monkey wrote:

I think it's possible to love a team so much that you support their loosing. I don't view this as quitting on them by any means - it's painful as hell to hope that they don't succeed this year, and if my brother read that I'm rooting against them he'd kick my ass.

It's just tough to picture how this team could recover enough to be competitive this year, not to mention actually contend for anything. I believe that there are a lot better long term solutions than the quick fixes it would take to get them into the playoffs (if this is even possible), and the only way the longer term fixes will happen if they lose.

One possible scenario is with Moreau. I've long been a supporter of him, even through the rough stretch he went through earlier this season and even last year. Somehow many fans quickly forgot (or never knew) that he played with a broken hand for half of last year, and his dedication to the team is vastly under-appreciated. If he's able to continue his improved play of late, there might be a playoff bound team who is willing to trade, say, a second round pick for him (in a draft that's not looking too deep). It makes better sense for this potential trade to happen if the Oil aren't near the playoffs, and as much as I'd rather see him and the Oilers compete for the cup this year, I just don't see it happening. This scenario may be a painful yet fruitful option.

Finally, I don't think I suggested that I'm not going to "stick with them"; I'm just doing it in a different way than you.

I won't dispute your integrety as a supporter, its just a basic philosophical (big word, bad spelling) difference. I believe a bad personality can spoil a team but the physical abilities, good or bad, can neither make or break a team over a season. Sorry, Gretsky and big Samy cured me of those notions. No player is bigger or more important than the team and the problems with the team is not in the players physical abilities, good or bad, its the fact the team needs its collective head examined.

The parts do not act like a team, and just adding or subtracting parts will make no difference. Until the players decide, if they ever do, they are all in this together, they will never have a chance to win consistently. Any of you biblically inclined will know the parable of the eyes being eyes, the feet, feet, etc. etc. (If you don't look it up.)

As far as I can see, the this team has two types of players, those like Souray, Grebs, Hofcoff, Staios, Gagner, and a few others, who try to do everything and succeed in doing nothing but screw up, and the rest who want nothing to do with what their roles have to be.

Funny thing, when the hitters hit, the checkers check, defenders defend, the passers pass, and the shooters shoot we often win or at least play good. When they don't, well we get Vancouver and the third period against S.J.

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#166 Heavyd
November 29 2009, 10:24PM
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Maggie the Monkey wrote:

Fair enough. I shouldn't have suggested that you stop pulling for them to win, maybe it's just the way I'm coping with this dismal season.

In all honesty, even though my reasoned opinion is that it would be better in the long run if they lose right now, every time I watch them play (which is just about every game) it feels like 1983 when I cheered like an idiot for them to beat the Islanders.

Exactly, there is just something about cheering for your team no matter what happens, you always seem to have hope that the will turn the season around. Even when the went 2 for 18 or whatever the streak at the end of that season was, I stilled bought all the payperviews and wacth all the games till the end, that is what a true fan does, a true fan doesnt hope for a rebuild or a lottery pick, or to tank a season, but thats my opinon.

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#167 BarryS
November 29 2009, 10:31PM
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Alert! Alert!

Using fan and reason in the same sentence, paragraph, or posting is a logical impossiblity, not to say oximoron, and can not be countinenced.

By the nature of being a Fan, Logic is clearly physicologically impossible. This is like presidents, musicians, sports figures and bus drivers (don't ask, its a long story and dosen't affect me directly) turning down the offer of sexual favours from young females.

Like, have you ever seen a new born that wasn't butt ugly? Just don't tell mom and dad, if you value their friendship.

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#168 dunciano
November 29 2009, 11:34PM
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Hello Tyler Seguin!!

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#169 VK63
November 29 2009, 11:48PM
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dunciano wrote:

Hello Tyler Seguin!!

dont be daft.... they will draft a goalie from some country that only has ice in its umbrella drinks.

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#170 necrobot
November 30 2009, 02:02AM
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today i watched an oilers game, fml

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#171 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
November 30 2009, 07:52AM
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so, how 'bout them riders!!!!!

~they should get that one farmer that can count to twelve, he may have been handy to have on the sidelines~

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#172 Milli
November 30 2009, 08:14AM
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I'm not feeling nearly as depressed today, thanks to the riders. Man oh man is that a tough way to lose!!!!!

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#173 Ogden Brother
November 30 2009, 09:00AM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

Show's over, folks. After talking to the person in question, he has decided against making further posts at ON. His call, not mine.

Move along. Nothing to see here . . .

Thank god.

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#174 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
November 30 2009, 09:05AM
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@Milli

My favourite part of the game was their closeup on Donovan Alexander after that (illegal) stop in the endzone. The look on his face was priceless.

I went to highschool with him - good to see him doing well in the CFL.

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#175 roughneck
November 30 2009, 09:19AM
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cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan wrote:

so, how 'bout them riders!!!!!

~they should get that one farmer that can count to twelve, he may have been handy to have on the sidelines~

pilsner doesnt come in 13 packs?

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#176 Jeff
November 30 2009, 09:25AM
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@BarryS

Refs/local guys/judges in TO... we're splitting hairs. Bottom line is they usually get it right, even if it's halfway through the following period. The fact that they didn't makes me wonder if his celebration had something to do with it.

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#177 JorgeR
November 30 2009, 11:18AM
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Wow RB vs. Deepoil was more epic then when Batman fights the Joker.

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#178 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
November 30 2009, 01:06PM
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~How do we know that RB and DeepOil are not one and the same? Has anyone ever seen them in the same room?~

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