Oilers vs. Canucks Postgame: Shooter Tutors

Jonathan Willis
November 29 2009 12:46AM

Vancouver Canucks: 7

Edmonton Oilers: 3

Remember shooter tutors?  Well, for good portions of the night the inexperienced tandem of Jeff Deslauriers and Devan Dubnyk eerily resembled shooter tutors; not so much along the ice but certainly over the shoulders.  It's been Deslauriers' weak spot for the last while and it was hard to watch the Canucks tonight and not think they'd been told to aim for the corners.

Random Thoughts

Jeff Deslauriers said after the game that the loss was on him, that he cost the team the game.  While he certainly wasn't sharp, I'm going to agree with Pat Quinn, who appreciated the gesture but acknowledged that it was a team loss.

Not many things can make me grin ear-to-ear when the Oilers are down 5-1, but Colin McDonald's first career goal was one of them.  It was a beautiful shot on a quality goaltender, and after years of hearing Kevin Prendergast talk about McDonald's shot being one of his greatest assets it was nice to see it at the NHL level.  I also liked seeing Ryan O'Marra's reaction (aside: the assist was O'Marra's first NHL point) to McDonald's goal; he seemed almost as thrilled as his teammate.  They were linemates in Springfield, and it was great to see that bond.  While I'm at it, I should acknowledge the fourth line was tremendous; it's easy to see why Rob Daum's been raving about both McDonald and O'Marra, and Stortini's found a comfort level with them.

I get the feeling it's going to be important to find things like that to focus on as this season continues.

The penalty kill was probably the worst part of the Oilers' game tonight, and that's on the veterans.  Speaking of veterans, Souray, Staios and the one-armed ghost of Shawn Horcoff all struggled for (at least) the second straight game.  Tom Renney switched to a Gilbert/Souray pairing in the third which should help, although that leaves Staios and Strudwick paired together and their track record isn't encouraging.  As for Horcoff, he had a couple of good shifts but for the most part didn't  handle the puck well at all, and it seems like he's in the right spots but can't fight the physical battles.

Brule and Penner both had a nice game offensively, and looked very smooth on the power play.  The only bad news about Brule (from an Oilers' perspective) stepping up to help carry the offence is that he's a free agent after this season; he could very well use this opportunity to earn a payday that wouldn't be coming otherwise.  That caveat aside, it's nice to see a player who struggled for so many years start to turn a corner.

I've been picking on Andrew Cogliano a fair bit this year, but he certainly seems to have come around (Moreau too, for that matter).  Ryan Potulny probably matches up a little better to those linemates than Zack Stortini did, and I'm sure that's part of it (as is having Cogliano play wing) but both players deserve a ton of credit.  It's also a treat to watch Cogliano's combative nature; he has been very involved in that department the last few games. 

 

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, Sportsnet, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#101 BarryS
November 29 2009, 06:55PM
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deepoil wrote:

@barry s

Read matheson in the journal today, note the oilers have games in hand over ducks and wild technically in last place. Rally for lottery - rebuilding..... also, HNIC gave last rights to Edmonton last night.

Neither is more than idle speculation, both from hangers-on who make money only because Sports Teams exist. The problem, is just like computer weather modeling, assumptions in, assumptions out. Any chance in them being right, is just that chance. What are there, a thousand people directly involved in the results of all the games in the NHL.

Thus a thousand actors making an unknowable of actions per game over 2520 games are needed to establish the final results. This only accounts for "legal" actions with results intended by the actors. Then there are all the unintended results, and the results of "unlegal" actions by actors, like intentionally missed calls by officials, missed decisions by coaches, etc, etc.

No doubt some get it more or less right, just like some people win lotteries, but most don't.

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#102 Rigger
November 29 2009, 06:58PM
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@Wanyes bastard child

*looks longingly at WBC's beer*

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#103 deepoil
November 29 2009, 06:58PM
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Helmerfied wrote:

How many of the successful teams at the top of the standings right now who went through a few consecutive lean years in the recent past actually went through those years by choice? Might those lean years have been due to $ issues or simply bad management? By your theory, trade or let walk any and all players that will be UFA in the next 1-3 yrs and tank the next 3 years on purpose to stock up on prospects. Have Tambo send out the presser announcing we're officially entering the 3-year rebuilding program and, in essence, no effort will be made to win any games in the next 3 years on the part of management as they don't matter. I'm sure the fan base will be more than happy to continue to buy tickets to see those games. If I remember right, the fans of the teams that went through recent lean years were all too happy to continually fill the building to capacity. It's really easy to say all of that until it's your $ that's on the line and you actually depend on those ticket sales.

It just seems that every fall, there is this optimism and then it falls flat for some reason..... coach, injury, flu, non performing player. This team is spending to max and getting no return, at the bottom. As forensic accountant, would declare this a bad investment. Instead of finishing 9th every year, dive and then resurface. If the oil faithful, continues to buy tickets, thats great, but the leadership mistakes are to be questioned on and off the ice.

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#104 BarryS
November 29 2009, 06:58PM
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Maggie the Monkey wrote:

And yeah, that's how I read Brownlee's questions, too.

I'm sure that our clever little monkey can come up with some more bs to dodge these questions, but I'll never know because I don't plan to read his posts.

What and willingly deprive yourself of some of the best comedy writing since Spike Milligan's, alas now departed this world, last nervious breakdown.

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#105 BarryS
November 29 2009, 07:05PM
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deepoil wrote:

It just seems that every fall, there is this optimism and then it falls flat for some reason..... coach, injury, flu, non performing player. This team is spending to max and getting no return, at the bottom. As forensic accountant, would declare this a bad investment. Instead of finishing 9th every year, dive and then resurface. If the oil faithful, continues to buy tickets, thats great, but the leadership mistakes are to be questioned on and off the ice.

Do you understand Deepoil? Optimism is the sign of a healthy individual, pessimism and constant discontent is not. The purpose of professionsl sports is to give entertainment to the fans. How the fans are entertaineed is their business and no one elses.

The unbounded arrogance of those like you who try to tell the fans how they should be entertained is as amazing as it is stupid. (So what that says about the mentality of those like the blind followers like the so called Mike, I leave to you.)

In short, get a real life. Get on with your lawsuits or whatever, but as they say Sh*t or get off the pot. Or Drive it or park or but get out of the way.

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#106 Travis Dakin
November 29 2009, 07:06PM
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BarryS wrote:

You know, this would be a much better site is everyone had to use their real names and pictures. To many cowards out their need to shoot in the back from behind trees instead of taking their chances face to face, as it were.

Hello world......

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#107 Robin Brownlee
November 29 2009, 07:06PM
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Maggie the Monkey wrote:

The only mystery that's puzzling me is why so many people are bothering to be concerned about Deepoil at all. I stopped reading his postings ages ago, and it's particularly baffling why Robin Brownlee is engaging with him/her so much.

Maybe Brownlee is trying to make sure that nobody buys Deepoil's nonsense, but it seems like he's just thriving on the attention like a little playground brat.

I'm engaing on this one because I know who DeepOil is -- you might notice he referred to e-mails we exchanged and that we once had lunch -- and it's laughable that he's holding himself up as some pillar of truth or whistleblower on the evil empire of Daryl Katz, given his personal situation involving the Oilers and the axe he has to grind.

I don't need the "attention."

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#108 Victoria
November 29 2009, 07:12PM
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*cracks open a heineken*

This is getting better by the second.

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#109 Rigger
November 29 2009, 07:13PM
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@Robin Brownlee

The anticipation is killing me. So can you answer this then: is the IP from the latter comments still the same as the earlier comments? You have to wonder what dude is doing in his office in Arizona (read: Edm) so late on a Sunday. Just sayin...

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#110 Rigger
November 29 2009, 07:14PM
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@Travis Dakin

*opens arems lovingly for TD to rush into*

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#111 Rigger
November 29 2009, 07:15PM
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Ooops, that's supposed to be arms. Crap!

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#112 Moop
November 29 2009, 07:17PM
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Rigger wrote:

The anticipation is killing me. So can you answer this then: is the IP from the latter comments still the same as the earlier comments? You have to wonder what dude is doing in his office in Arizona (read: Edm) so late on a Sunday. Just sayin...

The search for "truth" doesn't take weekends off, Rigger. Obviously :P

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#113 BarryS
November 29 2009, 07:17PM
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Who needs all that fake reality TV when we have real unscripted Reality Oilers Nation.

Puts on soft cd music, opens bottle of his favourite fluid, scrolls to next posting.

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#114 Helmerfied
November 29 2009, 07:19PM
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@deepoil

Yes, things have not gone as planned or intended the past few years. Agreed. My beef is...it's real easy for all these anonymous intellectuals to say "We need to give up the next 3 years and rebuild." If you were the GM of the Edmonton Oilers, would you actually follow through with the personnel decisions you suggest? Would you actually trade Hemsky for picks? How long do you think you'd keep your job if you filled your roster with the intent of landing a top-5 pick at the draft for 3 straight years? How long do you think fans would continue to pay money to come to games? There's plenty of fans that come on here bitching about $20 for PPV game. Is it OK for the team to lose millions of dollars every year just because Mr. Katz is very wealthy?

For all anyone knows, 3 horrible seasons and 3 solid draft picks may be the way this team needs to go to get back to glory but, my point is, it's hard to imagine you or anyone else suggesting this would actually go through with it if you had the chance or are even considering all the side effects this plan would have. Consider reality.

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#115 Rigger
November 29 2009, 07:20PM
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@Moop

Fox Mulder? LOL

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#116 Victoria
November 29 2009, 07:20PM
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Ya know what's funny, Deepoil and Mike even type with the same mannerisms. Hmmmm

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#117 Rigger
November 29 2009, 07:24PM
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Reality is a dish best served cold...oh wait, that's that OTHER "R" word.....

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#118 Maggie the Monkey
November 29 2009, 07:26PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

I'm engaing on this one because I know who DeepOil is -- you might notice he referred to e-mails we exchanged and that we once had lunch -- and it's laughable that he's holding himself up as some pillar of truth or whistleblower on the evil empire of Daryl Katz, given his personal situation involving the Oilers and the axe he has to grind.

I don't need the "attention."

Just to clarify, I was referring to Deepoil's apparent need for attention, not yours. You can have mine (and probably anybody else who reads about the Oilers) anytime you want it.

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#119 Rigger
November 29 2009, 07:31PM
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*considers searching Brownlee's office for tapes labelled "watergate" just in case...*

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#120 Rigger
November 29 2009, 07:43PM
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On another topic, I just watched the highlights again. How did they end up giving that first goal to Brule when it clearly went off Gagner's body?

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#121 deepoil
November 29 2009, 07:56PM
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Victoria wrote:

Ya know what's funny, Deepoil and Mike even type with the same mannerisms. Hmmmm

Actually, i was going to suggest to look at the penmanship, not the same person.

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#122 jake
November 29 2009, 07:57PM
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Interesting back and forth the last few dozen posts. I'll just say the team sucks presently and has for a while and they are almost at the cap.

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#123 BarryS
November 29 2009, 08:03PM
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So all those future forcasters, who predicted montreal last play of the game, to win by one point on a kick over of a missed field goal after a penalty to Saskatchewan for illegial substitution? Nobody can account for things like dumb coaches who can't count to twelve, or players either. Guess what, yesterday means almost nothing in todays game. A break here, a break there, you win or loose. Same with hockey, if you knew for absolute certain how the next game would turn out, you wouldn't watch.

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#124 deepoil
November 29 2009, 08:03PM
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@helmerfield

Boston did this with Kessel for two picks, this is happening right now, right here this season. Passengers please move along - leaders can stay - clear cap space and start again. There is a precedent set here by other GM's, not my idea.

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#125 deepoil
November 29 2009, 08:05PM
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@barry s

no barry, I would bet my butt off on sport select and make the government pay out until their protected limit was reached, while betting offshore as well - where the credit card is the limit.

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#126 BarryS
November 29 2009, 08:08PM
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The ip address is at the issuing server, not the specific computer. Big companies often have only one ip address on the main internet server than internal ip addresses within the system, even if they are all over the country. It makes security so much easiers and makes catching internal messaging even easier. Everything goes through the main server coming in, and then is dispatched to the designated receiver. This way, IT can tell who is using the internet for activities outside company policy.

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#127 deepoil
November 29 2009, 08:10PM
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@rigger

LOL, LOL - no brownlee was using the login ip of my email address when I registered, translation (NOT REAL TIME) Maybe JW can confirm my post from Cox Cable in AZ, not Edmonton my friend. Sorry, but there are two people in two different cities posting.

JW can you clear this up AGAIN, since the last public apology came from you with people posting as Deep Oil, when they were not, end result - RB was very angry for comments made by Nation readers, not Deep Oil.

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#128 BarryS
November 29 2009, 08:11PM
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@ Deepoil

More the fool you, the government only makes money on Sports Select. The players pay the winnings, the government and take all the losses. That's why lotteries are for the mathematically challenged. But keep betting, it keeps my taxes down.

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#129 Rigger
November 29 2009, 08:14PM
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@deepoil

Actually, penmanship has nothing to do with this, seeing as it's the act of taking a writing implement and formulating letters to make words. It has nothing to do with crafting sentences in grammatically correct fashion, spelling or punctuation. Pretty hard to compare penmanship when you're using a keyboard, since it doesn't involve the physical act of writing, but rather typing.

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#130 BarryS
November 29 2009, 08:16PM
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@deepoil

Don't see who benefit's from apologizing to a ficticious name?

No balls, no offspring, no immoritality.

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#131 Rigger
November 29 2009, 08:16PM
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BarryS wrote:

@ Deepoil

More the fool you, the government only makes money on Sports Select. The players pay the winnings, the government and take all the losses. That's why lotteries are for the mathematically challenged. But keep betting, it keeps my taxes down.

Not to mention my wages. LOL!

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#132 Victoria
November 29 2009, 08:16PM
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deepoil wrote:

Actually, i was going to suggest to look at the penmanship, not the same person.

You're strangely defensive about that.

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#133 BarryS
November 29 2009, 08:19PM
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@BarryS

The wages of deceit and pain in paranoia.

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#134 Rigger
November 29 2009, 08:20PM
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Rigger wrote:

Not to mention my wages. LOL!

Should read: Not to mention PAYS my wages.

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#135 Rigger
November 29 2009, 08:24PM
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@BarryS

No dude, that was me that wrote that. LOL! No deceit here ir paranoia, it pays my wages. Kind of odd considering I counsel people for addictions, but hey, as long as I get paid from somewhere.

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#136 Helmerfied
November 29 2009, 08:27PM
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@deepoil

I can't say for certain b/c I'm not the GM of the Bruins but my guess is, if they could've fit the 36-goal-scorer in Phil Kessel, they would have kept him. There was no way they could fit him under the cap, Burkie offered him solid value for him and they took it. To clear cap space, yes. To clear passengers and commence the re-build, not so much.

I don't disagree the team looks rough right now and might very well need to get worse before it gets better (although for the first couple games when the team was icing a full roster, they arguably looked good in a lot of areas). Pretty easy to call for the worst right now when they lead the league in injuries. Slam them for not having enough depth to handle such injuries? Absolutely. I'm just saying I've never seen any team intentionally prepare teams for multiple years specifically to finish in the bottom 5 in the league (only in the movie Major League have I seen anything similar). It happens when mgmt and the coaching staff incorrectly evaluate their players or if a team has substantially less resources to create their team. Maybe I'm naiive but I don't see any one team cleaning house and starting over.

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#137 BarryS
November 29 2009, 08:27PM
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deepoil wrote:

Actually, i was going to suggest to look at the penmanship, not the same person.

Actually, it is as easy to tell if two different writers write under the same way as it is if two different babilonians wrote on the same clay tablet, or someone faked an article under the name of someone else seven hundred years ago. It can easily be done if you know how. There are many examples of the second and third, the first will be childs play.

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#138 Dan the Man
November 29 2009, 08:30PM
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Anyone hear about Souray's ex-wifes 14 million dollar lawsuit against him? Could this possibly be affecting his play? Sounds like a brutal situation since kids are involved.

http://communities.canada.com/shareit/blogs/sports/archive/2009/10/18/souray-in-sensational-and-ugly-divorce-battle-over-children-and-millions-tmz-and-other-sources-report.aspx

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#139 BarryS
November 29 2009, 08:30PM
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Sorry, I meant the post for Deepoil. Alas, gambling also pays for addiction counselling. The ruined lives are another matter far to dark and confusing to get into here.

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#140 BarryS
November 29 2009, 08:33PM
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If lawyers duking it out for pay is brutal, I guess so. The effect on the children is totally in the hands of both parents. As long as he can pay his lawyer he's got little to worry about. The kids could be grown up and gone from home before it gets settled.

Two years and counting, and running out of money for lawyers.

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#141 Heavyd
November 29 2009, 08:46PM
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So who is deepoil? And does he work for the oilers?

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#142 Rigger
November 29 2009, 08:48PM
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@BarryS

It is a dark topic for sure, one that I listen to a lot. It's stressful for sure, but my stress load pales in comparison to theirs. Alas, the gambling also pays for treatment centers too.

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#143 BarryS
November 29 2009, 08:56PM
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@ Heavyd

You ask interesting questions, my friend. The answers, while not blowing in the wind, are known only to Mr. Brownlee and the semi-mythical Deepoil, neither of whom condescends to tell us.

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#144 Robin Brownlee
November 29 2009, 09:07PM
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Show's over, folks. After talking to the person in question, he has decided against making further posts at ON. His call, not mine.

Move along. Nothing to see here . . .

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#145 Maggie the Monkey
November 29 2009, 09:10PM
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Good news. Now we can get back to feeling miserable about this season without any unwanted distractions.

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#146 Wanyes bastard child
November 29 2009, 09:17PM
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Rigger wrote:

*looks longingly at WBC's beer*

*passes Rigger a beer*

What I miss? Got bored and decided to watch GI Joe the movie, it wasn't half bad...

... wait, the shows over!? Dammit...

ummm Goilers anyone?

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#147 SirFozz
November 29 2009, 09:25PM
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No, Noo, NOOO! Just caught up reading the posts only to find this story ends in a cliffhanger. I need closure. I was expecting some big plot twist at the end Fight Club style. Oh well, fun reading. Nice distraction from the Oilers.

PS, Welcome to our missery flatlanders.

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#148 Matt Henderson
November 29 2009, 09:26PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

Show's over, folks. After talking to the person in question, he has decided against making further posts at ON. His call, not mine.

Move along. Nothing to see here . . .

Is there a "horse's head in the sheets" emoticon I'm not aware of?

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#149 BarryS
November 29 2009, 09:31PM
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Well, so much for writing practice. Cranks up Moody Blue at Red Rock on Dvd/Tele. Now I have to get back at that damn novel no one will ever read.

The problem with obsessions, they don't pay very well and keep you from more monitarily viable activities.

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#150 Heavyd
November 29 2009, 09:34PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if deepoil was klowe, or someone within the organization, considering brownlee knows him. Anyways, I was the looking at the schedule and I rthink the oilers will be able to go 10-4 in december, anyone think I am crazy, if so look at the schedule and it could happen.

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