UPDATE AGAIN: Horcout!

Jason Gregor
November 04 2009 11:23AM

The injuries continue for the Oilers, and the latest victim is Shawn Horcoff.

We will get the exact extent of his injury after the skate today, but like I said on my show yesterday and Brownlee wrote yesterday, the Oilers will be without their highest paid forward for the next while.

Some will argue that they won’t miss his five points, -5 rating and his 25 shots. Clearly Horcoff has struggled this season, but no other centre has been solid offensively.

Sam Gagner has had a few good games, Gilbert Brule was good until he got sick and Cogliano has had three good games, but otherwise he has been invisible. One, if not two of them has to step up.

Filling Horcoff’s offensive contributions won’t be hard right now, but one of them needs to be better in the draws, and be ready to consistently face the opposition’s best defencemen. Gagner will have the best chance because he’ll be playing with Dustin Penner and Ales Hemsky. It isn’t a surprise that Gagner and Horcoff’s most productive game this year came playing with those two.

Gagner will be the guy to slide back on to the top line, but if this team is going to start winning again Cogliano or Brule need to chip in. They can’t win with just one line scoring, and that has been the case for the past six games.

Players need to grab the opportunity when it presents itself, so which centre will step up?

More injury trouble?

Horcoff is out, but he isn’t the only one hurting. Ales Hemsky didn’t skate this morning and he has an undisclosed injury. He won’t say what it is, but when the rest of the team was getting on the ice Hemsky was coming back to the rink after getting some sort of test done. He says he will play tomorrow, but he isn’t 100 per cent healthy.

Ladislav Smid didn’t practice either and I will fill you in on his status after practice.

Theo Peckham was re-assigned to Springfield after the game in Long Island, because Steve Staios looks ready to play. He practiced today and took part in some contact drills and it looks like he will return tomorrow night.

Mike Comrie was also on the ice, and should be ready against the Rangers as well.

New centre?

Based on practice, it looks like Patrick O’Sullivan will be the other centre now that Horcoff is out. He skated with Robert Nilsson and JF Jacques. Zack Stortini skated in Hemsky’s spot with Penner and Gagner. Cogliano was with Ethan Morean and Fernando Pisani, while Brule centred Comrie and MacIntyre. You have to think if Hemsky plays then Stortini will move down and play with Brule and Comrie.

The defence pairings saw Tom Gilbert with Denis Grebeshkov, Taylor Chorney and Lubomir Visnovsky and Jason Strudwick with Steve Staios.

More on Horcoff...

I spoke with Horcoff, and he says that though his injury will put him out of play anywhere from just the next game to two weeks out, he won't require surgery.

Horcoff was pretty mum on the extent of his injury and wouldn't say exactly what the issue was, but he didn't have a brace or sling on or anything, so it's not super severe... but bad enough that he needs to rest.

Coach Pat Quinn said that Horcoff would be out for 7 to 10 days, "Page two from the trainers' manual."

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Sheldon Souray was scheduled to do a solo skate today, and Quinn has given him the go-ahead to resume light workouts as well.

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#101 I'm a Scientist!
November 04 2009, 03:19PM
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Oh... my...god.

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#102 bingofuel
November 04 2009, 03:20PM
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I'm a Scientist! wrote:

Oh... my...god.

Don't say I never do anything nice for you.

Citizen Alpha says: He accepts chocolate and beer as gifts.

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#103 I'm a Scientist!
November 04 2009, 03:21PM
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@bingofuel

Now i just have to make sure to fix all my mistakes...

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#104 BUCK75
November 04 2009, 03:21PM
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does this actually work!!?!?!?

YUP edited moments afterwards

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#105 The Towel Boy
November 04 2009, 03:21PM
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HOLY %^$!*% S#*!%^*

edited for foul language.

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#106 The Towel Boy
November 04 2009, 03:22PM
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SOOOOOOOOOO COOOOOOOOOOOL!

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#107 HansBaurMesserschmittWatson
November 04 2009, 03:22PM
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we should all just talk in the number assigned windows and go back keep editing

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#108 I'm a Scientist!
November 04 2009, 03:23PM
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...now if only I could edit OTHER people's posts...

*evil grin*

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#109 bingofuel
November 04 2009, 03:23PM
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I'm a Scientist! wrote:

...now if only I could edit OTHER people's posts...

*evil grin*

Only *I* have that power.

MWAHAHAH*

*edited for length

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#110 Librarian Mike
November 04 2009, 03:24PM
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Is this Edit function in effect at Flamesnation, so they can magically erase the last 36 hours?

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#111 SirFozz
November 04 2009, 03:24PM
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akshfdsdhfsancosacneoadlsncdlnd

YAY!!!! Thanks guys.

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#112 The Towel Boy
November 04 2009, 03:25PM
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I'm a Scientist! wrote:

...now if only I could edit OTHER people's posts...

*evil grin*

I can. MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHA *strokes evil mustache*

edited for a more evil stroking of mustache.

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#113 bingofuel
November 04 2009, 03:27PM
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The Towel Boy wrote:

I can. MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHA *strokes evil mustache*

edited for a more evil stroking of mustache.

Do I have to give you the Uncle Ben/Peter Parker "With Great Power..." speech again?

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#114 I'm a Scientist!
November 04 2009, 03:28PM
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Librarian Mike wrote:

Is this Edit function in effect at Flamesnation, so they can magically erase the last 36 hours?

Slow clap...

*editted to a faster clap*

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#115 Ogden Brother
November 04 2009, 03:28PM
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smiliegirl15 wrote:

Lecavalier has a NMC so any trades would have to be okayed by him. Didn't we just go through that whole fiasco this summer? If he agreed to come to Edmonton, I would be thrilled because he is a great centre but at the same time, we have bigger problems than a #1 centre.

Edit - and it's a beauty!

He does, but I couldn't see him being as big of a dick about it as heatly was. Also, with his contract length, I would guess their would be less teams interested then their was in Heatly (which wasn't that many)

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#116 The Towel Boy
November 04 2009, 03:33PM
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bingofuel wrote:

Do I have to give you the Uncle Ben/Peter Parker "With Great Power..." speech again?

...nooo....

*sulks off into corner*

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#117 HansBaurMesserschmittWatson
November 04 2009, 03:33PM
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heatleys situation had nothing to do with the oilers

he had his mind set that he wanted to play with his buddy joe

his agent insured him it will happpen

the drama just went on for no reason

it was just an unneccesarry drama between healtey and ottawa when they both from the start knew what was going on

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#118 rubbertrout
November 04 2009, 03:35PM
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Dan the Man wrote:

Sorry OB ..didn't get the sarcasm.

Bingofuel, what's the computer code to implement the sarcasm font?

Edit: now I guess I won't have any more excuses for my poor grammar and poor typing skills.

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#119 The Towel Boy
November 04 2009, 03:37PM
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Now, the big question is how long do you think it'll be before we get a "bitch about Horcoff" button?

*strokes evil mustache*

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#120 SirFozz
November 04 2009, 03:39PM
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The Towel Boy wrote:

Now, the big question is how long do you think it'll be before we get a "bitch about Horcoff" button?

*strokes evil mustache*

A nice drop-down menu of the usual Horcoff blasts would be convenient.

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#121 bingofuel
November 04 2009, 03:39PM
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rubbertrout wrote:

Bingofuel, what's the computer code to implement the sarcasm font?

Edit: now I guess I won't have any more excuses for my poor grammar and poor typing skills.

~Uhhh, that'll be in the next release.~

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#122 smiliegirl15
November 04 2009, 03:46PM
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Genius sarcasm is lost on so many of you already. I don't think you could handle the power of the sarcasm font~

Keep up the good work Bingofuel!

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#123 Chaz
November 04 2009, 03:46PM
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If the Flames are feeling shame over the whole H1N1 thing, then the Oil Brass should also feel shame over charging their fans $15 two games in a row for PPV in November. Seriously, with the depleted lineup and their level of compete lately, I can think of a million better ways to spend $15, not to mention there may well be a World Series Game Seven to enjoy...based on their recent performances, I don't think I'll be missing much.

Negative Nancy.

Here's hoping they prove me wrong! Edit Button! Squeeeeeee!!!!!

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#124 rubbertrout
November 04 2009, 03:55PM
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smiliegirl15 wrote:

Genius sarcasm is lost on so many of you already. I don't think you could handle the power of the sarcasm font~

Keep up the good work Bingofuel!

Were you being sarcastic? My God I'm so confused . . .

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#125 smiliegirl15
November 04 2009, 03:56PM
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@rubbertrout

I only used one "~" so half sarcastic! HAHA

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#126 BarryS
November 04 2009, 03:57PM
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Edit ... Edit?

it works. it works. .... heart pounding he forgets what he was going to say

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#127 smiliegirl15
November 04 2009, 03:59PM
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BarryS wrote:

Edit ... Edit?

it works. it works. .... heart pounding he forgets what he was going to say

Try again...

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#128 Hemmercules
November 04 2009, 04:03PM
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@Chaz

The other option is to not have the game on at all like Calgary does. I'll take the PPV for a measly $15 over a baseball game.

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#129 AlbertaRanger
November 04 2009, 04:03PM
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Horcoff is hurt. No problem. Do you remember the 2008 season? I do. Horcoff only played 53 games and the two young guns (Gagner and Cogliano) just about put the Oilers in the playoffs.

No sophomore jinx season this season and both are restricted free agents next season. Gagner is playing good. Cogs isn't, but he has something to prove and now is the time to do it.

If Comrie is healthy, and Brule plays well on the dot, there should be no problems while Edmonton's $7-million-man gets better. (Yes, I know Horcoff is a $5.5-million cap hit, but his contract is still silly.)

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#130 BarryS
November 04 2009, 04:07PM
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Josh wrote:

With Horcs contract off the books this would free up room to allow us to make a trade

Horc isn't going anywhere, get with the program people, a sore shoulder for about three weeks (if it really was only three weeks) goes a long way to explain the bad stats. Does anyone see anybody else making major trades yet? Hasn't been any owners threatening coaches and GM's jobs lately, so trades are a foolish dream. Seems to me hoping for trades is like hoping to find a 50.00 bill in your pocket after finding it empty five minutes ago.

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#131 BarryS
November 04 2009, 04:12PM
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smiliegirl15 wrote:

Try again...

I did, thanks. OOOH it even corrects the highlights, thereby making those who post corrections look somewhat silly since their corrections no longer make sense.

I meant the thanks, though.

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#132 Ogden Brother
November 04 2009, 04:14PM
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AlbertaRanger wrote:

Horcoff is hurt. No problem. Do you remember the 2008 season? I do. Horcoff only played 53 games and the two young guns (Gagner and Cogliano) just about put the Oilers in the playoffs.

No sophomore jinx season this season and both are restricted free agents next season. Gagner is playing good. Cogs isn't, but he has something to prove and now is the time to do it.

If Comrie is healthy, and Brule plays well on the dot, there should be no problems while Edmonton's $7-million-man gets better. (Yes, I know Horcoff is a $5.5-million cap hit, but his contract is still silly.)

I wouldn't coun't on Cogs/Gagner rekindling their majic from two years ago. When they went on their un it was as the kid line....we've seen that line put back together for a few games now....two thumbs down.

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#133 Skidplate
November 04 2009, 04:24PM
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edit what edit

GOOD WORK BINGOFUEL! HURRAY!!!

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#134 Hemmertime
November 04 2009, 04:29PM
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Doubt Im the only one that wouldnt mind seeing Comrie get a chance on the top line. Might work out well.

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#135 Shapeman
November 04 2009, 04:30PM
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hmmm edit? EDIT?!?!?!EDIT!!!!YAY EDIT!!!

*works himself up into a sweat just thinking about editing*

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#136 HansBaurMesserschmittWatson
November 04 2009, 04:30PM
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minus the face-off comrie is just as good if not better then horcoff

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#137 BUCK75
November 04 2009, 04:32PM
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Now, you need to have text that says who edited posts & when. For the times when BIG fights start & ppl can't change posts.

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#138 Brandon
November 04 2009, 04:34PM
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Hemmertime wrote:

Doubt Im the only one that wouldnt mind seeing Comrie get a chance on the top line. Might work out well.

I wouldn't mind that either

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#140 Sandra
November 04 2009, 04:35PM
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I didn't think Horcoff could get any uglier, but Jason proved me wrong!

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#141 bingofuel
November 04 2009, 04:43PM
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@BUCK75

Dammit! All these "features" you keep demanding. Poor Citizen Alpha!

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#142 BUCK75
November 04 2009, 04:44PM
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bingofuel wrote:

Dammit! All these "features" you keep demanding. Poor Citizen Alpha!

That way when I start a fight with Dan Tencer he can't go back & change it. :P

JUST KIDDING

Edit @4:45 Something like that

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#143 bingofuel
November 04 2009, 04:46PM
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It's been added to the list of things we need to have done. Thanks dude!

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#144 smiliegirl15
November 04 2009, 05:09PM
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I am all for editing but it shouldn't edit the quotes - what's the point of that! tsk tsk

edit, no but if I edit my original post, the quote is edited

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#145 DK0
November 04 2009, 05:10PM
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smiliegirl15 wrote:

I am all for editing but it shouldn't edit the quotes - what's the point of that! tsk tsk

edit, no but if I edit my original post, the quote is edited

for fixing :)

wait you've lied to me and now i cant edit your quote! BLAST!

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#146 Citizen Alpha
November 04 2009, 05:19PM
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smiliegirl15 wrote:

I am all for editing but it shouldn't edit the quotes - what's the point of that! tsk tsk

edit, no but if I edit my original post, the quote is edited

This will be fixed in the future.

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#147 Quintana
November 04 2009, 05:35PM
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As per TSN Horcoff out 7-10 days!!!!!!

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#148 Robin Brownlee
November 04 2009, 06:37PM
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Quintana wrote:

As per TSN Horcoff out 7-10 days!!!!!!

For the record: As per Canadian Press, as per Brownlee, as per edited version of Brownlee CP story on TSN. I filed that at 3 p.m. and it appeared on the wires and SLAM etc by 4 p.m. Is it only legit after it runs on TSN?

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#149 Chris.
November 04 2009, 06:37PM
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I have nothing to add... I just wanted to edit.

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#150 Chris.
November 04 2009, 06:41PM
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Now I can go back in time; change what I said; and make all the responses irrelevent and nonsensical... Oh the mischief!

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