GDB XVII: Lazy Sunday

bingofuel
November 08 2009 04:52PM

You guessed it, Nationeers. It's lazy Sunday. That means today, I'm not even thinking about hockey. But who can blame me? The last seven games have been a difficult pill to swallow — with a record of 4-6-0 in the last ten— and although many people warned me, including several Nation writers, I still wasn't prepared for the thoroughly average to below-average play displayed by this team so far this season. Because I'm an overly optimistic team booster with an ecstasy problem.

We've logged a total of 16 games. Inspiration and grit seemed to be the name of the game when the season launched. Penner showed us he was more than an over-paid garburator, Comrie pulled a heck of a comeback to a city that once loathed him, and even Khabibulin literally pulled out all the stops.

And then the Oilers of yore showed up. The kind that can't stick passes, can't put the puck on net, and rely on an old sack of bones of a goalie to pull them through the worst of times.

Don't get me wrong, there's a tinge of hope settled into the back of my mind. That somehow Pat Quinn and Tom Renney will find a way to horsewhip this crew of layabouts into a winning hockey team, especially against a team our own Jonathan Willis has said shouldn't be this good.

I'm not overly optimistic about tonight, though — I still expect the Oil will lose on this lazy Sunday, just because that seems to be the name of the game these days — but I'd also settle for a 2-1 win. In regulation.

I need a drink. And more ecstasy.

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#151 Jason Gregor
November 08 2009, 08:55PM
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Principe Sucks wrote:

Hey Gregor or Brownlee,

Next time you see him, can you tell Principe that Craig Anderson's performance is not a surprise as he suggested at the beginning of the game? I mean, c'mon, it's borderline misinformation. Anderson was just waiting to break out, and a lot of people thought we should have gone after him.

Maybe you could ask him to do his homework, so that next game he can do a story about how we could be getting a .930 save % for a million bucks instead of a .900 one for 4 million?

You said yourself borderline.

You say he was on the verge of breaking out, well no GM in the league thought he would be the leading Vezina candidate or teams might have went after him harder this summer. It is a surprise that he is THIS good so far, and we will see what his numbers are at the end of the season.

I don't think there was enough proof that Anderson would put up these numbers at this point, not to mention that the Avs would be leading the Western Conference.

I agree Anderson has been very good, but many players and goalies have had great starts or one great year, but were never able to duplicate it. I think it is a tad early to think Anderson is a top-five goalie for years to come. He is starting strong, but has to prove it long term in my mind.

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#152 BarryS
November 08 2009, 08:56PM
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So is it time to polish up the crome on the stanley cup band wagon and give'r another coat of paint and more of them new fangled low power lights yet?

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#153 jeanshorts
November 08 2009, 08:56PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

How so? You keep picking the Oilers 82 times a season no matter what and I'll pick based on how the games stack up and we'll compare records, OK?

I like those odds!

Then again I also liked the odds of betting my entire life savings on the Lions to win the Superbowl at the beginning of last years football season. Hmmmm.

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#154 David S
November 08 2009, 08:58PM
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As far as Brownlee goes, mess with the bull and you'll get the horns.

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#155 Principe Sucks
November 08 2009, 09:09PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

You said yourself borderline.

You say he was on the verge of breaking out, well no GM in the league thought he would be the leading Vezina candidate or teams might have went after him harder this summer. It is a surprise that he is THIS good so far, and we will see what his numbers are at the end of the season.

I don't think there was enough proof that Anderson would put up these numbers at this point, not to mention that the Avs would be leading the Western Conference.

I agree Anderson has been very good, but many players and goalies have had great starts or one great year, but were never able to duplicate it. I think it is a tad early to think Anderson is a top-five goalie for years to come. He is starting strong, but has to prove it long term in my mind.

That's all true, but Principe shouldn't act like there's no back story there. We might've been able to get that guy for cheap, but we didn't even try because we wanted a guy "who's won a stanley cup." I just wish Principe would do some real reporting instead of toeing the party line. I mean, jeez, is he on the payroll or something?

And it's not just Principe. The cliches that come out of the broadcast team are horrendous. It's like Brownless was saying about the guy who asked about "getting out on the road." Give me a break man. Ask a real question. Do some work. Look at some stats. Or why bother?

It's sad that these guys are the professionals, and yet the best info comes out of this site and a few other blogs. The "professionals" barely even compete in terms of providing information and instant analysis. They should be afraid for their jobs. The media world is going to pass them by. The average Joe can get more information in 10 minutes on the internet than they offer during the entire broadcast.

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#156 Eric Johnson
November 08 2009, 09:14PM
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@Principe Sucks

"it's sad that these guys are the professionals, and yet the best info comes out of this site and a few other blogs."

ummm just so you know? The reason this site has so much awesome information is the "professionals" that contribute. They just aren't on TV....yet.

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#157 Robin Brownlee
November 08 2009, 09:16PM
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Principe Sucks wrote:

That's all true, but Principe shouldn't act like there's no back story there. We might've been able to get that guy for cheap, but we didn't even try because we wanted a guy "who's won a stanley cup." I just wish Principe would do some real reporting instead of toeing the party line. I mean, jeez, is he on the payroll or something?

And it's not just Principe. The cliches that come out of the broadcast team are horrendous. It's like Brownless was saying about the guy who asked about "getting out on the road." Give me a break man. Ask a real question. Do some work. Look at some stats. Or why bother?

It's sad that these guys are the professionals, and yet the best info comes out of this site and a few other blogs. The "professionals" barely even compete in terms of providing information and instant analysis. They should be afraid for their jobs. The media world is going to pass them by. The average Joe can get more information in 10 minutes on the internet than they offer during the entire broadcast.

Gene's paid to toe the company line. He's helping sell Oilers hockey through Sportsnet. You can't expect the fartcatchers to have any edge. It's not their job description. You're being a bit harsh on him.

As for the beat people, I agree. I don't see anybody making a concerted effort to break stories ahead of the other guy. It seems pretty cozy.

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#158 David S
November 08 2009, 09:18PM
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The average Joe isn't getting "more information on the internet in 10 minutes". They're the people who turn on the game to watch Oilers hockey. They're the ones who buy seasons tickets, sell out every game and jam the Oilers store to buy every piece of team crap they can afford. Take a look at the crowd next time you go. If hard-nosed reporting was what "average Joes" were looking for, they'd get it.

Hard core Oilers fans like the posters here make up probably about 10% of the total fan base. The rest are just there for the enjoyment of the game. They probably find Tom Gilbert's blog entertaining and actually enjoy the comedy stylings of Gene Principe.

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#159 RossCreekNation
November 08 2009, 09:19PM
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Caught the last half a period. Potulny with 2 points? I told my Oiler fan buddies toward the end of last season that IMO, Potulny & Stone should be with the Oil. I believe I had Pouliot & Nilsson out instead... although I also believe I may have said ixnay on the Jacques-ay. Hmm, maybe almost borderline right?

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#160 Robin Brownlee
November 08 2009, 09:20PM
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Eric Johnson wrote:

"it's sad that these guys are the professionals, and yet the best info comes out of this site and a few other blogs."

ummm just so you know? The reason this site has so much awesome information is the "professionals" that contribute. They just aren't on TV....yet.

Hell, I did TV on Oilers broadcasts on Sportsnet (with Principe) in 2001-03, a between periods segment, but they gassed the bit after two seasons. I was scaring the children.

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#161 RossCreekNation
November 08 2009, 09:24PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

Hell, I did TV on Oilers broadcasts on Sportsnet (with Principe) in 2001-03, a between periods segment, but they gassed the bit after two seasons. I was scaring the children.

I don't recall. Stupid brain.

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#162 BarryS
November 08 2009, 09:28PM
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Awesome PK Tonight. The two oldfarts who were out for awhile are back in the swing of things.

Even the other oldfart dman who has been here all along was on his game. That save he made by knocking the shot away right off after it left the Av' players stick better make saves of the week of there is no justice.

Awesome PP tonight as well.

Can't remember when we dominated special teams in a game like we did tonight.

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#163 roughneck
November 08 2009, 09:28PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

Hell, I did TV on Oilers broadcasts on Sportsnet (with Principe) in 2001-03, a between periods segment, but they gassed the bit after two seasons. I was scaring the children.

scared kids make good employees

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#164 Shifty203
November 08 2009, 09:28PM
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Go check out the picture on tsn. Gagner looks like penner grabbed his ass.

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#165 Quintana
November 08 2009, 09:28PM
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So now what?.....Would Tambi put Macintyre on waivers this week? There's no way Poltuny goes back to the A.................

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#166 Cameron
November 08 2009, 09:29PM
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Was in the stands tonight in Denver, there was a tremendous amount of Oiler jerseys in the stands, reminded me of when the Habs come to Edmonton, but a real sweet win

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#167 Robin Brownlee
November 08 2009, 09:31PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

I don't recall. Stupid brain.

Not surprising. It was forgettable fluff all the way, a segment orchestrated between the Oilers and The Sun as part of the SN broadcasts.

We had to play nice, with no real criticism of the team. Working with Gene was good, though. he's a pro, regardless of what people think about his goofy schtick.

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#168 jeanshorts
November 08 2009, 09:31PM
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Quintana wrote:

So now what?.....Would Tambi put Macintyre on waivers this week? There's no way Poltuny goes back to the A.................

I'm really interested to see how a line of Potulny and Stone would work. Who said we have no depth on the farm?

*please don't call up anymore Falcons*

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#169 BarryS
November 08 2009, 09:32PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

Hell, I did TV on Oilers broadcasts on Sportsnet (with Principe) in 2001-03, a between periods segment, but they gassed the bit after two seasons. I was scaring the children.

That's the trouble with kids today, so sheltered even a teddy bear like Brownlee scares them and he doesn't even look to that small kid terrorist Santa Claus. Can't believe it, some guy in the neighbourhood has his C Lights up and shining already. Not long before the line ups in the malls with crying kids getting the pics taken with SC.

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#170 jeanshorts
November 08 2009, 09:33PM
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Err wait do they both play center? How many centers does this team have? And they still can't find anyone to take draws on the third line?

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#171 Robin Brownlee
November 08 2009, 09:34PM
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Quintana wrote:

So now what?.....Would Tambi put Macintyre on waivers this week? There's no way Poltuny goes back to the A.................

It's one game. "No way?" There goes the bi-polar pendulum once again based on one 60-minute segment of hockey.

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#172 BarryS
November 08 2009, 09:34PM
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@Cameron

Anybody else notice all the empty seats masquerading as fans? It wasn't for the Oiler jerseys, the echos would be horrendous.

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#173 BarryS
November 08 2009, 09:37PM
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Anybody else notice the empty seats? Good thing lots of Oiler fans were there or the place would be filled with echos. Maybe the fans don't believe they have a first place team.

Don'now what happened, a post got hung up in the aether and suddenly appeared. Oh well, this one makes more sence.

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#174 RossCreekNation
November 08 2009, 09:42PM
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Eric Johnson wrote:

Marlie Matlin covering Poker face by Lady Gaga...

Awesome... For all you west coast guys, Family guy is killer tonight, it's a live action variety show, with Seth McFarlane. I have soiled my couch with incontinent hilarity guffaws.

Good call.

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#175 Archaeologuy
November 08 2009, 09:44PM
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BarryS wrote:

Anybody else notice the empty seats? Good thing lots of Oiler fans were there or the place would be filled with echos. Maybe the fans don't believe they have a first place team.

Don'now what happened, a post got hung up in the aether and suddenly appeared. Oh well, this one makes more sence.

Maybe the sad truth of having a 30 team league with such watered down talent, where not every team has even 1 superstar, is catching up with the teams that lose the 1 star they had.

Maybe, just maybe, teams wouldnt lose 3000 fans a night despite being a top team if there were a better Star-Team ratio.

Maybe.

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#176 jeanshorts
November 08 2009, 09:50PM
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@Archaeologuy

So, you're saying we should try and put more teams in the deep south of America, in order for there to be more chances for superstars to play there, making hockey popular in those markets? I like it!

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#177 RossCreekNation
November 08 2009, 09:51PM
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jeanshorts wrote:

Err wait do they both play center? How many centers does this team have? And they still can't find anyone to take draws on the third line?

Stone & Potulny? Both can play center, both can play wing. Stone hasn't played much center, if any, in the NHL if I recall correctly.

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#178 Archaeologuy
November 08 2009, 09:54PM
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jeanshorts wrote:

So, you're saying we should try and put more teams in the deep south of America, in order for there to be more chances for superstars to play there, making hockey popular in those markets? I like it!

*Sighs*

Yes, Jeanshorts, yes.

*Walks up to the attic and plays Russian Roulette while listening to REM's Everybody Hurts in the dark*

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#179 BarryS
November 08 2009, 09:55PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Maybe the sad truth of having a 30 team league with such watered down talent, where not every team has even 1 superstar, is catching up with the teams that lose the 1 star they had.

Maybe, just maybe, teams wouldnt lose 3000 fans a night despite being a top team if there were a better Star-Team ratio.

Maybe.

In the old days, I mean after the Oilers joined the NHL, the media would take a guy on most teams and build him up as a star. You know, _____________ and the team are coming to town tonight. Then a couple stories about how good this guy was. Nowadays the media has changed direction, as a group they are into destroying heroes, not making them. Of course, the "heroes" help them along through not even being as partially discrete as they were in the old days.

The only "stars" nowadays who seem to stay so are guys who must be monks like Crosby of whom you never hear anything. Or else the US Media is more circumspect about exposing hockey players given the NFL football clowns set the bar for bad behavior so high most "normal" bad behavior seems almost good.

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#180 Principe Sucks
November 08 2009, 09:56PM
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Eric Johnson wrote:

"it's sad that these guys are the professionals, and yet the best info comes out of this site and a few other blogs."

ummm just so you know? The reason this site has so much awesome information is the "professionals" that contribute. They just aren't on TV....yet.

Present company excluded, of course. I'm not against the professional reporters. I just think they need to wake up and stop pressing the replay button.

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#181 jeanshorts
November 08 2009, 10:06PM
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@BarryS

That's the really sad state we are in right now. Joe America could care less about Ovechkin scoring 50 plus goals in a season, or Crosby becoming the youngest Stanley Cup winning captain in history. But boy oh boy if they hear about Sean Avery making mediocre jokes about ex-girlfriends or Patrick Kane beating up cab drivers they're all ears!

Which, as much as I don't like Sean Avery, he, and other players with flamboyant personalities like that are good for the game at the end of the day. It's a weird dichotomy but that's just how it is.

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#182 common sense
November 08 2009, 10:18PM
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Lovely to see all those empty seats. Whaddya expect? Hockey is Nothing in the States and I don't mind that at all. MNF in Denver will be packed however. Good for ex-Edm Bowlen. I agree the current newspapers coverage of the Oil is pathetic. There's no insight. Anyone could write those columns and we're not in their dressing rooms sniffing for stories. Paper is dead. Online lives....

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#183 Shaun Doe
November 08 2009, 10:53PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

Hell, I did TV on Oilers broadcasts on Sportsnet (with Principe) in 2001-03, a between periods segment, but they gassed the bit after two seasons. I was scaring the children.

Maybe conducting the interviews from a van filled with candy was a bad set idea, yes no?

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#184 Tayranchula
November 08 2009, 11:21PM
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Why was Jacques not playing..is he injuried?

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#185 Quintana
November 09 2009, 12:17AM
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@Robin Brownlee

Why not keep a guy like that? with Mc-T: 8GP 0G 3A +2 with Quinn: 1GP 1G 1A 0 not too bad!!! I know he had some PP time, but he's a decent 3rd o 4th liner.....................

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#186 Word
November 09 2009, 12:19AM
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"Why Brownlee Left"

hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfRmkDM78UE

Heh.

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#187 Evan
November 09 2009, 12:38AM
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I saw Ales Hemsky at the Billiards Club on saturday night, then at the movies sunday afternoon. So I guess he didn't make the road trip? Seemed pretty strange since its a 5 game road trip and I thought he was Day to Day. So whats up with hemsky, anybody?

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#188 Tha Legion
November 09 2009, 07:20AM
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I'm just suck of princepe's puns, my god they make me want to poke my eyes out

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#189 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
November 09 2009, 07:26AM
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Tayranchula wrote:

Why was Jacques not playing..is he injuried?

~there is a rumour floating around that pocklington might be selling gretzky to the kings~

is it true?

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#190 dragon
November 09 2009, 08:37AM
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Evan wrote:

I saw Ales Hemsky at the Billiards Club on saturday night, then at the movies sunday afternoon. So I guess he didn't make the road trip? Seemed pretty strange since its a 5 game road trip and I thought he was Day to Day. So whats up with hemsky, anybody?

I guess the Oilers really needed to get the PP going so they gave him some time off. ;-)

Cool game last night.

The roller-coaster keeps on going...

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#191 Ogden Brother
November 09 2009, 08:45AM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Maybe the sad truth of having a 30 team league with such watered down talent, where not every team has even 1 superstar, is catching up with the teams that lose the 1 star they had.

Maybe, just maybe, teams wouldnt lose 3000 fans a night despite being a top team if there were a better Star-Team ratio.

Maybe.

I don't know, the NHL has grown by 43% since 1980. I'm pretty sure their talent pool has grown by at least that much as well.

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#192 Senator Theo
November 09 2009, 09:58AM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

Not surprising. It was forgettable fluff all the way, a segment orchestrated between the Oilers and The Sun as part of the SN broadcasts.

We had to play nice, with no real criticism of the team. Working with Gene was good, though. he's a pro, regardless of what people think about his goofy schtick.

You can count me among the group that likes Gene's "goofy schtick". I know where to find my hard hitting stuff, and I get it elsewhere.

I'll take his light offbeat approach any day over some of the other guys on SN like McLean or Kypreos (ugh).

Gene is always prepared, and and is very good at his job. I don't know what goes on behind the scenes, but I'll bet Gene does everything expected of him. That's professional - even if it means wearing a hot dog suit on occasion!

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#193 RossCreekNation
November 09 2009, 10:02AM
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@Senator Theo

MacLean I can understand, but why the hate on for Kypreos?

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#194 Chris
November 09 2009, 11:23AM
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Oilers place Smackintyre on waivers this morning

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