Steve MacIntyre on Waivers

Jonathan Willis
November 09 2009 11:35AM

To the surprise of absolutely nobody, the Edmonton Oilers have put Steve MacIntyre on waivers.

MacIntyre, who bounced around the minors for years (as recently as 2006-07 he was playing for the Quad City Mallards of the United Hockey League) was claimed off waivers by the Oilers at the start of the 2008-09 season. Florida had signed him to provide a physical presence for their AHL team, but with so many small players on the roster the Oilers felt the need to add a so-called ‘nuclear deterrent’ to their team. MacIntyre got into 22 games (Craig MacTavish used him sparingly, and injury was a factor) but spent the entire season earning a big league paycheck and seemed to be genuinely well-liked by fans.

Unfortunately for MacIntyre, when the Oilers axed MacTavish and brought in Pat Quinn, they effectively ended his time with the team. In an interview with CBC’s The Hour this summer, Quinn was asked how he felt about sending a guy out to beat someone up. His answer:

I’ve never liked that. I’ve always said, in my mind, I’ll keep you on the bench if you learn how to play - I won’t keep you on the bench – but you’ll be a part of my team if you can learn how to play.

He’s stuck true to that, and with all due respect to MacIntyre (who has worked his way up the hockey food chain in the most difficult possible way), he doesn’t have the necessary ability to play a regular shift, and as a result Quinn has refused to use him. Bruce McCurdy detailed the extent of that a few days ago:

On four occasions that Pat Quinn has had no choice but to dress every healthy body on the roster, MacIntyre has played 2:44, 0:51, 1:19, and 1:24. Twelve shifts in all, for 6:18 of total ice time.

Bottom line: MacIntyre wasn’t being used, and with the team battling injuries and the flu, it made no sense to keep him on the roster. Also, possibly of interest to the Oilers – Buffalo’s Adam Mair is on waivers. Mair played briefly for Quinn in Toronto before being dealt to Los Angeles, but he’s come a long ways as a player since then. Might the Oilers be interested?

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, Sportsnet, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#51 Ogden Brother
November 09 2009, 02:58PM
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Dan the Man wrote:

How come people think the Oilers should pick up every single guy that gets waived? Most guys get waived because they're not that good.

As more teams get squeezed $$ wise you'll see more quality players waived. A guy like Randy Jones for example belongs in the NHL, and is good value at 1.3 million.

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#52 Dan the Man
November 09 2009, 03:08PM
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Ogden Brother wrote:

As more teams get squeezed $$ wise you'll see more quality players waived. A guy like Randy Jones for example belongs in the NHL, and is good value at 1.3 million.

I said most guys...but you are correct more and more guys will get waived due to salary going forward.

Jones' 1.3 cap hit was because he was on re-callable waivers however. He was 2.6 on the way down.

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#53 Hemmertime
November 09 2009, 03:12PM
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Jones is a D that averages about 30 pts, and isnt as soft as Gilbert. He earned his 2.6, so for 1.3 he would be a steal. We didnt really need him but I bet LA is happy with their waiver claim.

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#54 Dan the Man
November 09 2009, 03:27PM
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Hemmertime wrote:

Jones is a D that averages about 30 pts, and isnt as soft as Gilbert. He earned his 2.6, so for 1.3 he would be a steal. We didnt really need him but I bet LA is happy with their waiver claim.

He averaged 30 points in the AHL and College. In the NHL he reached that total once. I wouldn't exactly call him a steal and any team in the League would rather have Gilbert than Jones.

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#55 RossCreekNation
November 09 2009, 03:45PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

You're assuming everyone will be healthy at some point, and I don't think that's going to happen this year.

I think Mair gets MacIntyre's roster spot, and when everyone's healthy Robert Nilsson gets the boot.

That would definately make sense to me. Nilsson is trash. No one said they have to keep Mair if they picked him up. 2 weeks down the road when all are healthy and guys like Potulny and/or Reddox are back on the buses, Mair could also be placed on waivers. No harm in trying. I guess it would make more sense if MacIntyre gets picked up as for a contract spot. If he clears and a guy like Nilsson clears later, then it may be hard to pick guys up contract-numbers-wise, but if 1 or both were to be claimed, that whole too many contracts thingy doesn't hold any water. Mair's a hard-nosed guy that could play on my team. Of course, Paul Gaustad might just make me splurge in my pants by comparison.

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#56 Dan the Man
November 09 2009, 03:46PM
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From Sportsnet - Calgary Flames winger Curtis Glencross was suspended three games by the National Hockey League on Monday for a blindside hit that left New York Rangers captain Chris Drury with a concussion.

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#57 smiliegirl15
November 09 2009, 03:49PM
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Wouldn't a proven veteran centre like Peca be a better choice over someone like Mair? Mair looks like an injury waiting to happen (from his tsn stats). Don't we have enough of those already? Once he got going, Peca was an asset here. He may be happy to get back on a team, even if it is in Edmonton~.

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#58 RossCreekNation
November 09 2009, 03:57PM
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Dan the Man wrote:

From Sportsnet - Calgary Flames winger Curtis Glencross was suspended three games by the National Hockey League on Monday for a blindside hit that left New York Rangers captain Chris Drury with a concussion.

Haven't seen any replays yet, but the league does have to nip these head shots in the bud. The one thing I'll say in defense of Glencross is that it looked as though the Ranger d-man was about to pass the puck to Drury. Had he followed through on that, everyone would be saying how Glencross crushed him after a suicide pass by the d-man. As it turned out, the d-man did not make that pass and Glencross already commited to the hit blindsiding Drury with no puck. Drury's concussion history probably comes into play here as well. Bottom line, start suspending the blatant head shots and be consistent *cough*Mike Richards*cough*

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#59 jeanshorts
November 09 2009, 04:03PM
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@RossCreekNation

I've watched it about 20 times now and it also just looks like a freak accident. It doesn't look at all like Glencross is going in the for kill, it looks like he's simply trying to bump Drury off the puck that was supposed to come to him. He was trying to go shoulder to shoulder but unfortunately for Drury, Glenx's shoulder bounced off and clipped him in the chin.

The only real problem I have with the suspension is it makes the league, and more over Colin Campbell, look as inept as ever. Like you said if a smaller, unfortunate incident like this is worthy of a suspension then how bad do they look for letting Richards and Mitchell slide for their giant hits, where the intent was clearly the level the boom on an opposing player?

But someone eventually has to be the example right?

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#60 rubbertrout
November 09 2009, 04:07PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Because every once in a while Dustin Penner or Martin St. Louis shows up on the waiver wire.

Or even Rich Peverley.

Or Robbie Schremp.

I hear that guy has some great moves and I saw some of his stuff on youtube. Maybe we ought to think about picking up someone like that to help out our team with its offensive struggles (last night's game notwithstanding)

** searches madly for the computer code for the sarcasm font lest he be mocked for such ridiculous statements

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#61 Dan the Man
November 09 2009, 04:11PM
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@RossCreekNation

Glencross isn't really a dirty player and even in the replays it looked like Drury would probably be getting the pass. Either way though it was a head shot and the league needs to get tougher on those types of hits. 3 games is fair.

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#62 Dan the Man
November 09 2009, 04:15PM
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@rubbertrout

It's the tilde ~ that you'd be looking for to denote sarcasm.

~I can't believe I just helped a guy that wants to bring back Schremp.~

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#64 Ender
November 09 2009, 04:19PM
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Dan the Man wrote:

Glencross isn't really a dirty player and even in the replays it looked like Drury would probably be getting the pass. Either way though it was a head shot and the league needs to get tougher on those types of hits. 3 games is fair.

3 games is only fair because he's a Flame. If Penner pulls 3 games making that same hit, complete travesty of justice.

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#66 Dan the Man
November 09 2009, 04:24PM
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Ender wrote:

3 games is only fair because he's a Flame. If Penner pulls 3 games making that same hit, complete travesty of justice.

Well of course, that's a given.

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#67 GSC
November 09 2009, 04:28PM
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Until more contracts are moved, the Oilers aren't about to pluck someone off of waivers.

As much as I'd like to see that happen, it's just not going to. Tambellini is forced to deal with the abundance of contracts by hoping that someone will emerge from within to fill a need.

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#68 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
November 09 2009, 05:19PM
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Does the province of Alberta have anything against Chris Drury? Anybody else thinking mind control flu shots?

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#69 rubbertrout
November 09 2009, 05:21PM
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Dan the Man wrote:

It's the tilde ~ that you'd be looking for to denote sarcasm.

~I can't believe I just helped a guy that wants to bring back Schremp.~

It's like a whole new world has been opened up to me.

Thanks a bunch.

Hey Bingofuel any idea when/if we'll be back at the point when we don't have to insert the paragraph codes etc and the non computer savvy types like myself will just be able to type normally?

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#70 Jason Gregor
November 09 2009, 06:03PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Jason Gregor wrote:

The Oilers had 12 forwards dressed last night, with Hemsky, Horcoff, Jacques and Stone out. That is 16 when healthy, which isn't far away, barring some guys getting hurt. Jacques is out another week, Stone is a week to ten days. Horcoff is looking like this weekend, and Hemsky possibly earlier. The Oilers don't think Mair is better than what they have, plus they have TOO many contracts anyways. They aren't interested in Mair.

Fair enough on the Mair thing, and good to know, but those 16 forwards include Potulny, Reddox and Nilsson.

On the too many contracts front - Jason, there was a report this summer that the Oilers bought out Hrabel; any idea if that's true? (And if it is I can think of a few guys *coughPittoncoughO'Marracough* who could use that treatment)

Yes they did...He was never going to play. As for O'Marra his contract ends after this season, so they won't have to buy him out, rather decide if he gets a new one.

Actually right now the Oilers only have Jordan Bendfeld, Johan Motin, Alex Plante, Cody Wild, Bryan Pitton signed for next year. At least minor league guys anyways.

Jordan Eberle, Milan Kytnar and Toni Rajala also would have contracts that could kick in next year.

So they will have lots of open options to stock their minor system with.

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#71 Jason Gregor
November 09 2009, 06:04PM
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Woodguy wrote:

The Oilers had 12 forwards dressed last night, with Hemsky, Horcoff, Jacques and Stone out. That is 16 when healthy, which isn't far away, barring some guys getting hurt. Jacques is out another week, Stone is a week to ten days. Horcoff is looking like this weekend, and Hemsky possibly earlier. The Oilers don't think Mair is better than what they have, plus they have TOO many contracts anyways. They aren't interested in Mair.

Still no love for Pouliot Gregor?

He'd make 17.

He is out for at least another month if not longer, and I have no love for him. I don't think he makes them any better. EVER.

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#72 Jason Gregor
November 09 2009, 06:09PM
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Dan the Man wrote:

Glencross isn't really a dirty player and even in the replays it looked like Drury would probably be getting the pass. Either way though it was a head shot and the league needs to get tougher on those types of hits. 3 games is fair.

The fact is Drury never touched the puck and Glencross blind-sided him. You can't just hit a guy because you think he will get the puck. While Glencross isn't dirty, he is quickly becoming known as the toughest-guy-in-the-league-after-the-whistle-when-linesmen-is-in-scrum.

He will have to man up soon, or he'll get ran. And deservedly so in my opinion.

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#73 HansBaurMesserschmittWatson
November 09 2009, 06:30PM
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if there is a trade coming up in the near future, chorney is in the package.

last year brodziak had the best mustache and he was gone, now chorney does, so he will be gone too.

where is my dallas pizza, already ?

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#74 Dan the Man
November 09 2009, 06:49PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

The fact is Drury never touched the puck and Glencross blind-sided him. You can't just hit a guy because you think he will get the puck. While Glencross isn't dirty, he is quickly becoming known as the toughest-guy-in-the-league-after-the-whistle-when-linesmen-is-in-scrum.

He will have to man up soon, or he'll get ran. And deservedly so in my opinion.

Don't get me wrong I wasn't defending Glencross. My point was that even in slo-mo replays it looks like Drury is going to get the pass so I could see how Glencross would make that assumption considering how fast those things transpire down on the ice.

Regardless it was a careless play.

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#75 Ogden Brother
November 09 2009, 08:43PM
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Until more contracts are moved, the Oilers aren't about to pluck someone off of waivers.

As much as I'd like to see that happen, it's just not going to. Tambellini is forced to deal with the abundance of contracts by hoping that someone will emerge from within to fill a need

Poor Tambellini, he wasn't able to cut a couple more never will-be's over the summer.

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#76 Ogden Brother
November 09 2009, 08:45PM
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@ Gregor

What happen to GlenX? He was a willing fighter when he was here? (or at least that's how I remember him)

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#77 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
November 09 2009, 09:18PM
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rubbertrout wrote:

It's like a whole new world has been opened up to me.

Thanks a bunch.

Hey Bingofuel any idea when/if we'll be back at the point when we don't have to insert the paragraph codes etc and the non computer savvy types like myself will just be able to type normally?

pssssst, you can type normally and it seems to work a-ok

like

this

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#78 Shaun Doe
November 09 2009, 09:24PM
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Ok this is Completely off topic but it HAS to be said. O'sullivan, I apperciate what you are doing and I understand that its for a noble cause... but when, WHEN, are you going to realize that a mustache paired with a sizeable soul patch makes your mouth look like a vagina. With less teeth. Its just uncomfortable to look at. See the Oilers Movember updates to judge for yourselves (NSFW).

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#79 Hemmertime
November 09 2009, 09:35PM
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Dan the Man wrote:

He averaged 30 points in the AHL and College. In the NHL he reached that total once. I wouldn't exactly call him a steal and any team in the League would rather have Gilbert than Jones.

He's never played a full season, got 22 pts in 66 games... 30 was high Ill admit, hes a 25 Pt D man then. (69pts/217games x 82 games = 26.1 pts per season) And most teams would take Jones' 26 for 1.3 mil than Gilberts 40 for 4. Gilbert is the better player though.

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#80 Hemmertime
November 09 2009, 09:42PM
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smiliegirl15 wrote:

Wouldn't a proven veteran centre like Peca be a better choice over someone like Mair? Mair looks like an injury waiting to happen (from his tsn stats). Don't we have enough of those already? Once he got going, Peca was an asset here. He may be happy to get back on a team, even if it is in Edmonton~.

Very good point, we arent EST but he would help us and we would pay him. So win-win. That and will be extremely hard to get an NHL job without playing a whole season

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#81 Deep Oil
November 09 2009, 10:37PM
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Dan the Man wrote:

Don't get me wrong I wasn't defending Glencross. My point was that even in slo-mo replays it looks like Drury is going to get the pass so I could see how Glencross would make that assumption considering how fast those things transpire down on the ice.

Regardless it was a careless play.

Drury is 5"10, Glencross is 6"1 - headshot maybe, height differential yes - do the math.

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#82 Slats
November 09 2009, 11:07PM
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Deep Oil wrote:

Drury is 5"10, Glencross is 6"1 - headshot maybe, height differential yes - do the math.

Drury does not have the puck and Glen-X is cruising from the off-wing waiting for Drury to get a touch pass from dman- it doesn't happen. He hits him in the head - intentionally or unintentionally it was a blind shot to the head. He should have got 5 games.

It reminds of the game when Booergerhead hit Hemsky on half boards with no puck - 2 years ago.

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#83 Zamboni Driver
November 09 2009, 11:46PM
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So the suspense is....

well...moderately interesting me.

Did anyone pick him Macintyre up or no? Hope so for his sake.

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#84 RossCreekNation
November 10 2009, 12:08AM
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This comes from Bruce Garrioch on the wknd, so take it for what its worth... BUT, it made Spectors Rumors...

- The Tampa Bay Lightning are rumored trying to move defenseman Andrej Meszaros but they'll have a hard time moving his $4 million salary.

SPECTOR'S NOTE: There's a rumor the Oilers are scouting the Lightning perhaps for a defenseman but they'd have to free up cap space if they were interested in Meszaros.

Is Meszaros an upgrade on Gilbert or Grebeshkov?

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#85 Jason Gregor
November 10 2009, 12:24AM
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@Ogden Brother

He fought in his first game as an Oiler v. the Flames...took it on the chin from one of their D-men can't recall who...

He doesn't fight much, which is fine, but in Calgary he seems to have become much more yappy after whistles. Maybe coaches want that out of him, which is fine, but he'll have to step up a few times and drop the mitts.

IF he wants to become more of an agitator, that is fine...seems to be working for him.

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#86 Eric Johnson
November 10 2009, 06:51AM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

He fought in his first game as an Oiler v. the Flames...took it on the chin from one of their D-men can't recall who...

He doesn't fight much, which is fine, but in Calgary he seems to have become much more yappy after whistles. Maybe coaches want that out of him, which is fine, but he'll have to step up a few times and drop the mitts.

IF he wants to become more of an agitator, that is fine...seems to be working for him.

I think GlenX would fight more if he was playing on the fourth line, but like Burrows in Vancouver, the further up the depth chart he went the less the gloves came off.

It makes sense, if you're taking a regular shift on the 1st or 2nd line, why would you want to spend the game watching it from the penalty box.

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#87 Gunner
November 10 2009, 08:08AM
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@Five

The point is not if he wants to fight or not. The point is if he is going to yap and act tough in scrums, eventually he needs to back it up. Or someone will force him too.

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#88 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
November 10 2009, 08:27AM
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So now Chorney(sore ankle) and Nilsson(possible concussion) are hurt. Oil tried Smid up front at practice. Hmmm wasn't he pissed about that last year?

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#89 Eric Johnson
November 10 2009, 08:39AM
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Gunner wrote:

@Five

The point is not if he wants to fight or not. The point is if he is going to yap and act tough in scrums, eventually he needs to back it up. Or someone will force him too.

But isn't that his job? I doubt GlenX has any issue with dropping the gloves. He's more effective on the ice than in the penalty box and Calgary has other goons to get into the fisticuffs.

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#90 BK16
November 10 2009, 08:49AM
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@Gunner

GlenX must be learning from the best "I'm-so-tough-in-scrums-when-a-linesman-is-between-us" guy in the league - Dion Phaneuf.

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#91 RossCreekNation
November 10 2009, 09:04AM
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Funny how Glencross was an 'angel' in Edmonton, but now that he's a Flames he's a 'coward' (I know no one actually used the term coward). I'ma call it sour grapes for losing the guy. I'm sure if he was still an Oiler, you wouldn't see things quite the same.

I feel a similar way about Smid. I've said it before, he's gonna bark up the wrong tree one day and take a beating. Having said that, he's becoming more & more effective and could probably play on my team.

For the record he fought twice as an Oiler and twice as a Flame.

(1st game as an Oiler v. Sarich http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwqHteDZUGw&feature=player_embedded)

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#92 RossCreekNation
November 10 2009, 09:10AM
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toughest-guy-in-the-league-after-the-whistle-when-linesmen-is-in-scrum

I'm-so-tough-in-scrums-when-a-linesman-is-between-us

~Certainly no Oiler ever falls into this category... only Flames players~

Ethan/Steve "I'll grab you from behind after the whistle like a true backstabber" Moreau/Staios

Check out the first 10 seconds. Oooooh Moreau is such a hero... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fxvr3c9kgsE&feature=player_embedded

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#93 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
November 10 2009, 09:14AM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

toughest-guy-in-the-league-after-the-whistle-when-linesmen-is-in-scrum

I'm-so-tough-in-scrums-when-a-linesman-is-between-us

~Certainly no Oiler ever falls into this category... only Flames players~

Ethan/Steve "I'll grab you from behind after the whistle like a true backstabber" Moreau/Staios

Check out the first 10 seconds. Oooooh Moreau is such a hero... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fxvr3c9kgsE&feature=player_embedded

He probably hasn't changed much since he was an Oiler. It could be coaching direction, but if he's drawing penalties then he's being effective. I've said it before and I'll say it again - just about every time I see Glencross play I regret the fact that the Oilers lost him. Fairly similar feelings about Kotalik so far this year.

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#94 RossCreekNation
November 10 2009, 09:24AM
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How about this gem from Darren Dreger's twitter...

GM's will discuss a proposal from SJ forcing players to absorb costs of skates and sticks. i have more in tonights Insider on TSN.

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#95 BK16
November 10 2009, 09:29AM
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@RossCreekNation

You forget that both Staios and Moreau WILL FIGHT and answer the bell when needed. Need I remind you when Phaneuf hammered Okposo in the pre-season with that cheap, late open ice hit he skated away unwilling to drop his gloves. My point is here when you play tough you better back it up when someone takes issue with your actions. If you don't, you are a p*%sy. And it bugs me even more when you act tough in the scrum knowing that you aren't going to do anything about it. Smid is more than willing to back it up, big deal if he gets his ass kicked one of these days. At least he has the balls to take off his visor and back it up, unlike Phaneuf and GlenX.

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#96 BK16
November 10 2009, 09:30AM
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Oops, I know that GlenX doesn't wear a visor, I mean Phaneuf.

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#97 SirFozz
November 10 2009, 09:37AM
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@ RossCreek

So he's fought twice as a Flame and Oiler. Same amount of games too, right? Seems to have learned something new down there. :)

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#98 RossCreekNation
November 10 2009, 09:45AM
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SirFozz wrote:

@ RossCreek

So he's fought twice as a Flame and Oiler. Same amount of games too, right? Seems to have learned something new down there. :)

~He's also put up the same points in each place too, right?~

;-)

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#99 RossCreekNation
November 10 2009, 09:51AM
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@BK16

My point was... watch every time there's a whistle in front of the Oil's net. Even when the opposition does nothing and just stands there, you always see an arm reach around from behind. For what? Pretty easy to be tough from behind too. I respect Moreau & Staios' game (not so much anymore), but why they gotta do that? I understand if there's a scrum, anything goes, but when there's nothing going on they still gotta attack from the back.

I think all the Glencross talk is total SOUR GRAPES. As for Phaneuf, there's absolutely NO point trying to back him up in these parts (whether I want to or not). Did you know he's phugly? Whatever.

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#100 SirFozz
November 10 2009, 09:55AM
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@ RossCreek

All we're saying is that he went from a model citizen. A pillar of the community, really, in Edmonton, to scum of the earth. A goon that won't fight any fight of his own battles or help an old lady cross the street. I also heard he kicks puppies- cute ones.

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