Time for a change: let the do-over begin

Robin Brownlee
December 29 2009 11:38AM

I'll admit to being stubborn when it comes to changing my mind on stances I've taken, like the need to tear down the Edmonton Oilers roster and start over with a full-scale rebuild, but the abomination that is the Oilers seven-game losing streak has made a believer out of me.

While the make-up and mix of the roster coach Pat Quinn has to work with has looked wrong to me since training camp broke, I have been of the mind, given injuries and illness, that GM Steve Tambellini should wait 50-60 games to start undoing this edition of the team.

Even then, I wasn't in for a full-scale Dive For Five, but after watching this mis-matched collection of players that's supposed to be a team fade into a nothingness that can only be described as an epic fail, 39 games has me convinced.

Consider me a card-carrying member of the DFF Faction, a convert to the belief that Tambellini, or somebody else if he doesn't have the stomach or wherewithal for the job, has to do whatever it takes to get to square one.

Dan Barnes pulled the trigger by calling for the same thing today in The Journal, so I'm not claiming to be staking new ground here, but I'd rather catch on to what many fans here at OilersNation and elsewhere have been saying sooner rather than later.

It's broke. Time to fix it.

The ugly details

I said a week or so ago my philosophy for the DFF is that landing a 2010 draft lottery pick should be considered an aside to a proper rebuild, not the focus of it. I'm sticking by that because I don't believe a Taylor Hall or a Tyler Seguin is the cure-all for the Oilers, even if it is a start.

The goal for me is freeing up cap space and creating options, rather than throwing the mess Kevin Lowe created on the shoulders of 18-year-old kids coming out of the draft, no matter how talented they might be, in the next couple of years.

  • If I'm Tambellini, I'm faxing the other 29 GMs in the league a list of roster players I'm willing to trade before the New Year. I'm informing them that I'm ready to deal between now and the deadline.
    The only players NOT on that list are Ales Hemsky, Ladislav Smid, Andrew Cogliano, Ryan Potulny, J.F. Jacques, Dustin Penner, Ryan Stone, Zack Stortini, Gilbert Brule and Sam Gagner.
    With the exception of Hemsky and Penner, these players don't put a significant dent in the salary cap now and likely won't in their next contracts. There is no windfall waiting for Cogliano or Gagner this summer, so they aren't going anywhere, at least not yet.
  • While it's unlikely there'll be calls for players at the top of the salary scale like Shawn Horcoff, Sheldon Souray or Lubomir Visnovsky, I'd make them as attractive as possible. Dump their salary for picks and prospects, if possible. Yes, these contracts are next-to-impossible to trade, but you take a shot and see what happens. If one or all of them are back, so be it.
  • I'm especially pushing Ethan Moreau, Steve Staios and Patrick O'Sullivan before the deadline. They could be decent pieces for the right team during the stretch drive, even with some term left.
  • My 2010-11 edition of the Oilers includes Jordan Eberle, Magnus Paajarvi-Svensson, Theo Peckham and Taylor Chorney.
  • My first moves before hitting the fax machine are, as Barnes suggested, finding out if surgery is the answer for Horcoff's shoulder and Nikolai Khabibulin's back.
    Surgery takes them out of play in terms of trades in the unlikely case that anybody would be interested -- Mike Milbury isn't an option -- but it helps secure a lottery pick. 

At the top

  • If I'm owner Daryl Katz, I'm grading Tambellini on what he does between now and the trade deadline. If I don't see a significant shift in the right direction, he gets a pink slip when the season ends.
  • If Tambellini gets the sack, then Quinn moves from coach to GM, while associate Tom Renney and assistants Wayne Fleming and Kelly Buchberger run the bench. I also look at rescuing Rob Daum from the shit show that is Springfield and adding him to the staff here.
  • The entire hockey operations side gets re-evaluated at the end of the season, and that evaluation begins with the scouting staff, starting with Kevin Prendergast.
  • If I'm Katz, I take a long look at old pal Kevin Lowe, now the president of hockey operations, and ask some tough questions. Does he serve out the term of his extension or take the fall now for the mess he left Tambellini? Either way, Lowe's days are numbered.
  • If I'm Katz, I call Tambellini, Lowe and anybody who has a stake in the decision-making process and inform them in no uncertain terms the do-over starts now. Then, I call a news conference to tell fans exactly that.

— Listen to Robin Brownlee every Wednesday and Thursday from 4 to 6 p.m. on Just A Game with Jason Gregor on TEAM 1260.

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#1 Chris.
December 29 2009, 11:46AM
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The DFF is a cold hard reality whether or not key vetrans are moved. Fans who celebrate grabbing a spot in the draft lottery are a lot like people who are thankful for achiveing early retirement when they learn they have terminal cancer. There is no joy in this.

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#2 RossCreekNation
December 29 2009, 11:50AM
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AWESOME article!

I see you also think Ladislav Smid is the ONLY defenceman worth keeping around.

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#3 OilSandMan
December 29 2009, 11:51AM
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Great article. I agree 100% with everything you said, this team neads to be rebuilt. Frankly Im Ok with losing for 5 years really bad if we win big for 5 great years.

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#4 The Towel Boy
December 29 2009, 11:51AM
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Nice! I like it. Sounds like a solid plan to me. DFF!!

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#5 freeze
December 29 2009, 11:52AM
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I would love to see these steps taken but I'm so pessimistic right now that I expect the status quo to remain.

The Oil have some quality prospects coming up the pipe, it would be great to set the stage to keep them around. Although this Hall kid has some game! #df5

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#6 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
December 29 2009, 11:52AM
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This is a great article. Can someone send the link to Katz?

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#7 Bucknuck
December 29 2009, 11:54AM
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Good article Robin. I agree with you, except I would consider a package deal for one of the players on your list if it included dumping some significant salary and getting a return.

Let's say someone wants Andrew Cogliano and offers a significant return. You agree to that with a side order of Shawn Horcoff.

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#8 SirFozz
December 29 2009, 11:55AM
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Welcome to the dark side Robin. DFF!!!!

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#9 Puckbag
December 29 2009, 11:56AM
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You know there is something inheritably wrong with this whole organization when every hockey team under the brand of Rexall Sports is either last or next to last in their respective leagues. The Oilers, Falcons, and Oil Kings are all abyssmal (however I do give Oil Kings somewhat of a free pass being only 3 years in).

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#10 Pajamah
December 29 2009, 11:59AM
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Dive for Five?

Like it was said here weeks ago, the Oilers are already there, infact, there 4 points out of 28th, and 7 out of 30th, they can catch the Hurricanes

But to do so, they need to gut this team sooner than later.

Trade Moreau for picks, use O'Marra in his absense, trade Staios, use Peckham

If you can move a Horcoff or Souray, like RB said, load up on picks/prospects who wont improve the team right away, we have a chance at a potential game-breaker in the top 2 picks. Plus Eberle and MPS

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#11 RossCreekNation
December 29 2009, 12:01PM
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I think there'll be enough interest in Souray out there. I say Dallas.

Ethan Moreau's return is of little significance to me. Turn the page.

Steve Staios could stick around for the final year as far as I'm concerned. If you can move him - great, if not - fine.

I'd be talking to Atlanta about Colby Armstrong even though he's a UFA (Would they take Patty O?). Trade & sign for him if possible. (FYI: I'd probably HATE Armstrong within 3 games. That's a good thing. Hence, I'd be all for the Flames adding the former Rebel.)

Dan Hamhuis is another UFA that intrigues me (again, for both the Flames & Oilers). I think he's an upgrade on Gilbert and I'd rather spend $4mil on him.

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#12 Smokin' Ray
December 29 2009, 12:06PM
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Good read Robin. I was like you and was stubborn about the dismantle. But who am I to argue now? This team stinks. Although I do question Quinn's decisions. Why play Moreau in the 3rd periods? Why pull Grebeshkov for Strudwick when Moreau, O'Sullivan or Staios could have been replaced. Although... Strudwick sucked last night - minus the assist -

*sigh* I love this team but they are giving me a headache.

So if the Oilers do take Eberle and MPS on next season, doesn't that still leave us with smurfs? I know... they will be smurftastic, but I hope they get bigger soon.

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#13 Stall35
December 29 2009, 12:07PM
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I like it!! Good call Brownlee!!!

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#14 Sandra
December 29 2009, 12:09PM
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I haven't seen Tambilini in a whie, how big are those sacks under his eyes now?

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#15 RossCreekNation
December 29 2009, 12:13PM
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@ Robin

Do you think there's room for Eberle, Svensson, Hall/Seguin, Cogliano (particularily Cogliano/Eberle)? I figure Eberle takes Cogliano's spot and you move Cogliano for another young, skilled player with size. Have you heard Svensson is NHL-ready? At least he has a bit more size.

And Barnes figures Linus Omark makes the team next year? What say you?

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#16 6 ring circus
December 29 2009, 12:13PM
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I agree with you 100% Mr Brownlee, but like others on here,we can only hope someone in the Oilers organization has the balls to make changes.If we are waiting on Katz,lowe and Tamballini I think we will be waiting a long time.

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#17 PattQuinn'sChesthair
December 29 2009, 12:13PM
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Finally, I always knew you would come to the Darkside. VIVA LA PLONGEZ pour CINQ! (PPC)...

Butchering the English language is no longer enough, now I'm doing it en'Francias!!!

I'm onboard with your list, Mr. Brownlee, but I would make Cogliano available, especially if you are adding the 3 new recruits next year. If you don't, you'll wind up getting pushed around, having at least 4 of your top six being on the small side (Hemsky, Cogs, Brule, Gagner, MPS, Eberle). I think most would agree more physical presence is needed up front, and not just on the checking lines.

I guess one could argue that MPS is not that small,and Cogs is a third line checker in that scenario, but that's not where I see him best suited, better to trade him away for a true grinder with some size.

DFF/PPC!

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#18 Chris.
December 29 2009, 12:14PM
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Brownlee wrote: "If I'm Katz, I call Tambellini, Lowe and anybody who has a stake in the decision-making process and inform them in no uncertain terms the do-over starts now. Then, I call a news conference to tell fans exactly that.",

I wouldn't hold my breath for that news conference. The Oilers spend time and money trying to portray the image that the fans matter; and that we have an active stake in the team...

But neither the CEO, nor any of his cronies ever engage the Edmonton public in an open or frank manner. It would mean a lot to me; as a season ticket holder, and fan; to recieve an honest evaluation of what went wrong, and what measures are being taken to correct the situation. This "team in transition" theme is more stale than Hoffa's underpants. It's getting harder and harder to rally around an organization that is so patronizing and arrogant towards the people who ultimately foot the bill.

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#19 PattQuinn'sChesthair
December 29 2009, 12:15PM
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Damn, I type too slowly. Ross Creek and Smokin' Ray beat me to the punch.

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#20 Andrew B
December 29 2009, 12:16PM
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@RossCreek I think Brule adequately replaced Cogliano. He is cleary the odd-man-out.

Svensson is probably NHL ready, however do we really want to rush him? The only downside is that I doubt he would leave his swedish team to play in the AHL like the Oilers would probably want.

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#21 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
December 29 2009, 12:17PM
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Agreed all around. However:

"fall now for the mess he left Tambellini?"

Keeps popping up. The team Lowe left for Tambellini was on the cusp of the playoffs and widely considerd one of the exciting up and coming teams in the league. He also added valuable pieces in Lubo, Cole and Brule before handing Tambs the keys.

The roster certainly wasn't perfect, but the base was their, complementing it with cheap widely available role players to add both depth and balance should have put the team in the 5-8 mix.

Tambellini the swapped one of two top 6 power forwards for another small forward, let a mid range, healthy goalie who is still having success go for a mid range injury prone goalie at almost twice the price, traded one of only 2 defensive centers with size for next to nothing and used his cap space to add another small forward, while a dozen other guys that could better fill the void signed elsewhere.

Lets point the blame squarly where it belongs.

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#22 Pajamah
December 29 2009, 12:17PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

I think there'll be enough interest in Souray out there. I say Dallas.

Ethan Moreau's return is of little significance to me. Turn the page.

Steve Staios could stick around for the final year as far as I'm concerned. If you can move him - great, if not - fine.

I'd be talking to Atlanta about Colby Armstrong even though he's a UFA (Would they take Patty O?). Trade & sign for him if possible. (FYI: I'd probably HATE Armstrong within 3 games. That's a good thing. Hence, I'd be all for the Flames adding the former Rebel.)

Dan Hamhuis is another UFA that intrigues me (again, for both the Flames & Oilers). I think he's an upgrade on Gilbert and I'd rather spend $4mil on him.

Should be tons of interest in Souray. You would think for teams not pressed up to the cap, that have a shot at the playoffs, teams would be chomping at the bit to have him.

For either Moreau, or Staios, at this point, despite good years here, they would be addition by subtraction, we have players to fill their spots, and we need picks/prospects. No 1st rounders for either guy, but maybe a 2/3

Personally, I'd pass on Armstrong, but definately would like to see Hamhuis here, but not at the expense of someone who can be a shutdown guy against a teams 1st line

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#23 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
December 29 2009, 12:18PM
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Andrew B wrote:

@RossCreek I think Brule adequately replaced Cogliano. He is cleary the odd-man-out.

Svensson is probably NHL ready, however do we really want to rush him? The only downside is that I doubt he would leave his swedish team to play in the AHL like the Oilers would probably want.

Svensson has been pretty vocal about the fact that he wants nothing to do with the AHL. I wouldn't be surprised to see him make the jump right into the NHL.

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#24 Sandra
December 29 2009, 12:24PM
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@ Chris

I agree with you, it was getting very tired the way Millhouse and Flintstone kept using that excuse on the radio last night on the drive home after the game. a "team in transition" is so old, so what are they going to transition into? Barnes and Brownlee have the balls to call for Lowes and Tamby's head. Good for them. The fans deserve better for a cap team, with the prices of the seats, I think we are going to see the end of sell outs this year.Didn't Tamy say he would assess the team at intervals and tell us where he thinks they will be going. But he has been quiet, Like LOWE.The Canucks went with out Luango and Sedin for a while and survived, we can't go without Hemsky and Khabby? It's not like they were playing great either. Lowe and Predergast(I have no idea how he got promoted) have scewed the fans with thier eye for talent and talk of being the next Red Wing franchise. We sure are a puck possession team.

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#25 MrOiler
December 29 2009, 12:28PM
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I won't argue that the team is bad. BAD. But do people really know how long a rebuild is going to take?

We're looking at a 3-5 year process and the odds are only 50% that we have a good team at the end of it.

There is no guarantee that we have the Chicago Black Hawks or Pittsburgh Penguins at the end of the process. We may end up with Columbus.

I'm not sure we have a choice, but before we push the DFF button, you have understand what it's really going to cost. Count on 5 years.

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#26 PattQuinn'sChesthair
December 29 2009, 12:29PM
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OilSandMan wrote:

Great article. I agree 100% with everything you said, this team neads to be rebuilt. Frankly Im Ok with losing for 5 years really bad if we win big for 5 great years.

That's a good point too.

If a total teardown does happen, things will probably get worse before they get better. Missing the playoffs for the next couple of years is a real possibility but I think that most fans would be on board as long as they can see a logical plan with continued improvement.

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#27 SirFozz
December 29 2009, 12:34PM
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MrOiler wrote:

I won't argue that the team is bad. BAD. But do people really know how long a rebuild is going to take?

We're looking at a 3-5 year process and the odds are only 50% that we have a good team at the end of it.

There is no guarantee that we have the Chicago Black Hawks or Pittsburgh Penguins at the end of the process. We may end up with Columbus.

I'm not sure we have a choice, but before we push the DFF button, you have understand what it's really going to cost. Count on 5 years.

Where as continuing with what we have will lead to a cup in less then 5 years?

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#28 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
December 29 2009, 12:34PM
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Sandra wrote:

@ Chris

I agree with you, it was getting very tired the way Millhouse and Flintstone kept using that excuse on the radio last night on the drive home after the game. a "team in transition" is so old, so what are they going to transition into? Barnes and Brownlee have the balls to call for Lowes and Tamby's head. Good for them. The fans deserve better for a cap team, with the prices of the seats, I think we are going to see the end of sell outs this year.Didn't Tamy say he would assess the team at intervals and tell us where he thinks they will be going. But he has been quiet, Like LOWE.The Canucks went with out Luango and Sedin for a while and survived, we can't go without Hemsky and Khabby? It's not like they were playing great either. Lowe and Predergast(I have no idea how he got promoted) have scewed the fans with thier eye for talent and talk of being the next Red Wing franchise. We sure are a puck possession team.

Actually a solid playoff team like the Canucks fell to "the bubble" without those guys. A bubble team like the Oilers fall to the lottery without theirs.

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#29 GSC
December 29 2009, 12:35PM
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In the words of Palpatine, "GOOD...GOOD"!

Welcome to the Empire (DFF), Robin. I didn't want to believe it, either, but it's time for this team to hit the tank and for the organization to long, hard look in the mirror.

Tambo, Lowe, and Prendergast should be the most scrutinized individuals in terms of evaluation. The arrogance and unwillingness to accept a proper rebuild and to attempt to "win while rebuilding" has become a gong show of nightmarish proportions.

The time is now. It has to be.

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#30 Chris.
December 29 2009, 12:37PM
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I don't trust Lowe and Tambellini to properly rebuild this team even if they were given another five years and a handful of top picks.

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#31 RossCreekNation
December 29 2009, 12:37PM
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FYI: The Vancouver Canucks have put Mathieu Schnieder on waivers. Just a thought, but I wonder if Washington claims the veteran with the space they cleared yesterday. I'd think they had a bigger plan, but who knows? Does Schnieder have anything left in the tank?

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#32 swany
December 29 2009, 12:37PM
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RB I have croosed to this side as well, Taylor Hall with Eberle MPS Hemmer, Penner Cogs, and Gags has a nice ring to it but along with the guys you mentioned wouldn't it be a good idea in moving a couple smaller guys. Omark is supposed to come over and if he makes this team that gives us Omark, Eberle, Hall?, Cogs Gags Nilsson PattyO(which you said move)that's alot of small guys. Would you put Cogs in a package with say Souray for a real good return like a couple 1st round picks a good prospect and a third line young faceoff centre(could you get that). What about this other guys at the WJHC like Lander, and the guy from Fin can they make a push for next year as well? It sucks to say that hockey season is already over but watching this team is painful, lets go L.A. gotta hope for some past Oilers, and cheering for Cal, or Van just won't happen.

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#33 GSC
December 29 2009, 12:38PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

I think there'll be enough interest in Souray out there. I say Dallas.

Ethan Moreau's return is of little significance to me. Turn the page.

Steve Staios could stick around for the final year as far as I'm concerned. If you can move him - great, if not - fine.

I'd be talking to Atlanta about Colby Armstrong even though he's a UFA (Would they take Patty O?). Trade & sign for him if possible. (FYI: I'd probably HATE Armstrong within 3 games. That's a good thing. Hence, I'd be all for the Flames adding the former Rebel.)

Dan Hamhuis is another UFA that intrigues me (again, for both the Flames & Oilers). I think he's an upgrade on Gilbert and I'd rather spend $4mil on him.

Agreed on Hamhuis, although I wouldn't be willing to spend $4 MIL on him.

Trade Tom Gilbert's candy ass A.S.A.P.

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#34 SirFozz
December 29 2009, 12:38PM
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@PattQuinn'sChesthair

"If a total teardown does happen, things will probably get worse before they get better."

How? I think this must be pretty close to rock bottom now.

Let's take advantage of this miserable situation to build a proper foundation.

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#35 Rival
December 29 2009, 12:41PM
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Its about time! Both this article and the one by Barnes is gold. This organization has got a free ride for to long. Fans and season ticket holders have had enough. Bring on the changes!

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#36 millertime
December 29 2009, 12:44PM
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I think the Oilers can still make the playoffs, I mean they only need to rattle off about 15 straights wins...hahaha, I couldn't keep a straight face. All I can say is thank god for DVR's. And power outages. I'm certain all the above mentioned players have been on the trading block all year, but they are untradable, there is just no value compared to their contract.

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#37 PattQuinn'sChesthair
December 29 2009, 12:45PM
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SirFozz wrote:

"If a total teardown does happen, things will probably get worse before they get better."

How? I think this must be pretty close to rock bottom now.

Let's take advantage of this miserable situation to build a proper foundation.

In terms of now being the time I totally agree.

But I could see a vocal contingent of people who are furious next year if we don't make the playoffs again... "But we have a number one draft pick and new gm and blah blah blah.."

Just hope that people are realistic and don't expect miracles.

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#38 swany
December 29 2009, 12:47PM
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Rival wrote:

Its about time! Both this article and the one by Barnes is gold. This organization has got a free ride for to long. Fans and season ticket holders have had enough. Bring on the changes!

Agreed paying that kind of money for a game with the crap out there must be driving fans nuts, I take my family 3 or 4 times a year there's six of us at 100 a pop, plus traveling parking food and it's 800 per game well this year NO WAY, we will see next year even if they are losing but I see a bright future I will buy those tickets again.

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#39 Chris.
December 29 2009, 12:48PM
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Tambellini's three biggest moves since arriving:

1)Trading for O'Sullivan. 2)Signing Kabibulin 3)Signing Comrie...

Tamb's may have been a little unlucky... but people who strike out often are.

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#40 RossCreekNation
December 29 2009, 12:50PM
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@swany

Oil fan once before jumped on the LA Kings bandwagon, and with Smytty there now, they're as good a team as any.

*ponders KingsNation.com*

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#41 crash
December 29 2009, 12:53PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

I think there'll be enough interest in Souray out there. I say Dallas.

Ethan Moreau's return is of little significance to me. Turn the page.

Steve Staios could stick around for the final year as far as I'm concerned. If you can move him - great, if not - fine.

I'd be talking to Atlanta about Colby Armstrong even though he's a UFA (Would they take Patty O?). Trade & sign for him if possible. (FYI: I'd probably HATE Armstrong within 3 games. That's a good thing. Hence, I'd be all for the Flames adding the former Rebel.)

Dan Hamhuis is another UFA that intrigues me (again, for both the Flames & Oilers). I think he's an upgrade on Gilbert and I'd rather spend $4mil on him.

Totally agree with this. I mentioned in another thread that the Oil should try to target Armstrong and Hamhuis in the off season as well as Jordin Tootoo. IMO they should also try to get in on whatever Chicago needs to dump to meet the salary cap next year. Word is that guys like Seabrook, Barker and/or Sharp will be made available and Chicago won't want much salary in return.

So offer up a draft pick...say a 2nd or 3rd round pick and possibly a Cogliano or something similar.

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#42 swany
December 29 2009, 12:54PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

Oil fan once before jumped on the LA Kings bandwagon, and with Smytty there now, they're as good a team as any.

*ponders KingsNation.com*

Never cheered for the Kings before but with Smitty, Stoll, Greene being there might as well, if I don't I get hockey withdrawl. April to Oct is just to long with no meaningfull hockey to watch.

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#43 RossCreekNation
December 29 2009, 12:54PM
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As per Dan Tencer...

Fernando Pisani skated with the team today. Steve Staios & Ladislav Smid did not. Mike Comrie took "a twirl on his own".

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#44 OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F
December 29 2009, 12:56PM
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Potential summertime targets:

Hartnell - If the Oilers are disapointing this year, I'd hate to see how people view the Flyers. Flyers manangement typically isn't very patient... a solid player from that team could be on the move. He and Penner would give us a good 1-2 punch for big bodies that can score in the top 6.

Sharp - Someone has to be moved in Chicago this summer, if it's Sharp the Oil should be all over it. Solid 2 way player that can get you 25 goals and play all 3 forward positions on any of the top 3 lines. Consolation prize: Barker

Volchenkov - UFA this summer that would give us that physical, shot blocking Dman in his prime.

Willie Mitchell - Consolation prize to Volchenkov. Could be a good vetran Dman to replace Staios.

Bobby Ryan - Long shot, but rumours are that he and the Ducks are having troubles with his contract extension. If true, the Oilers should have Gagner+ on the table.

Horton - having a big season might have brought him off the market, but theirs been trade rumblings he wasn't happy in Florida.

Spezza - Lower on my list, but he's had a rough season and Ott may wish to have a clean break from the former Spezza/Heatly duo. If something could be worked around Horc+Cogs+prospect...

Move some vets off the current roster add one of the above + Hall + some roll players like Travis Moen on the cheap this summer and the Oil will be on there way.

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swany wrote:

Never cheered for the Kings before but with Smitty, Stoll, Greene being there might as well, if I don't I get hockey withdrawl. April to Oct is just to long with no meaningfull hockey to watch.

You better hold off on this one for now....I think the LA Kings may be beginning their descent down the standings

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RossCreekNation wrote:

As per Dan Tencer...

Fernando Pisani skated with the team today. Steve Staios & Ladislav Smid did not. Mike Comrie took "a twirl on his own".

Kind of looked like Smid was hurt near the end of his fight with Iggy.

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#47 obglim
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@MrOiler

I've watched this team suck for all of my adult life and without major changes I don't expect to see anything different for the next 10 years. 3-5 years of rebuild is nothing when you consider we're in the midst of a 20 year suck right now anyway. Fire everybody. Then trade everybody. We're like an expansion team anyway.

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#48 swany
December 29 2009, 01:00PM
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OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F wrote:

Potential summertime targets:

Hartnell - If the Oilers are disapointing this year, I'd hate to see how people view the Flyers. Flyers manangement typically isn't very patient... a solid player from that team could be on the move. He and Penner would give us a good 1-2 punch for big bodies that can score in the top 6.

Sharp - Someone has to be moved in Chicago this summer, if it's Sharp the Oil should be all over it. Solid 2 way player that can get you 25 goals and play all 3 forward positions on any of the top 3 lines. Consolation prize: Barker

Volchenkov - UFA this summer that would give us that physical, shot blocking Dman in his prime.

Willie Mitchell - Consolation prize to Volchenkov. Could be a good vetran Dman to replace Staios.

Bobby Ryan - Long shot, but rumours are that he and the Ducks are having troubles with his contract extension. If true, the Oilers should have Gagner+ on the table.

Horton - having a big season might have brought him off the market, but theirs been trade rumblings he wasn't happy in Florida.

Spezza - Lower on my list, but he's had a rough season and Ott may wish to have a clean break from the former Spezza/Heatly duo. If something could be worked around Horc+Cogs+prospect...

Move some vets off the current roster add one of the above + Hall + some roll players like Travis Moen on the cheap this summer and the Oil will be on there way.

But isn't this the opposite of what RB is taking about, We have enough guys comming up to make room for and if this is a total rebuild going after guys like Hartnell, Mitchell, Spezza are backwards steps, but the other guys yes it should be looked at all young guys that could fit right in

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Chris. wrote:

Tambellini's three biggest moves since arriving:

1)Trading for O'Sullivan. 2)Signing Kabibulin 3)Signing Comrie...

Tamb's may have been a little unlucky... but people who strike out often are.

His tenure has really been a joke. People want to blame Lowe, but the fact remains he was handed an 89 point team and we've now got a team on pace for 71 points.

And that reduction in points is a pretty good reflection of his moves.

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#50 Archaeologuy
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An important thing to remember is that the Oilers arent starting their youth movement with a lottery pick this season. The Oilers have some good young players on the NHL roster right now in guys like Brule, Gagner, and Cogs. They also have a group of 3-4 even younger guys playing over-seas and in the CHL that make up the bulk of the next group that should battle for jobs NEXT season in guys like MPS, Omark, and most importantly Eberle who is the best player in the CHL (better than Hall as of right now by the way). The lottery pick the Oilers are on pace to receive would only be adding to the stable of youth that is heading to Oil country.

This isnt the starting point, this might be looked back as the point where the Oilers pushed their rebuild into overdrive. Face it. The Oilers are rebuilding whether they want to or not. Key roles are already being filled by unproven young players. Why not make it official and shed some salary while we're at it? The ground work of good drafting APPEARS to have been done already.

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