Tease, tease, tease

Robin Brownlee
February 01 2009 08:45PM

tease

There's no excuse for the half-hearted effort the Edmonton Oilers trotted out for a capacity crowd at Rexall Place in a 2-1 loss to the Nashville Predators, but if you're surprised, you're gullible.

Led by Dustin Penner, my choice as poster boy for a team that plays with the commitment it takes to be a legitimate contender only when it damn well feels like it, the Oilers delivered yet another pulse-less performance. Just when Joe Fan had reason to believe the Oilers might be building a head of steam after watching their team bounce back from a 10-2 sheet-soiler against Buffalo Tuesday with a workmanlike 3-1 decision over the Minnesota Wild Friday, their team phoned it in against the Predators, a team that rolled into town with a 9-15-2 road record.

No intensity. No drive. No commitment to detail. No sense of seizing the moment and heading for their Super Bowl party with a 7-2 roll in their last nine games on the go. Hell, 6-3 is good enough, isn't it? I mean, the Oilers, as of today, are in the playoffs. What could go possibly go wrong?

Have some chips. Beverage? Relax.

Haven't we seen this movie before?

NO JAM

Let coach Craig MacTavish tell it. "We didn't have enough jam from our role players," he began. "To be an NHL player, you've got to provide some consistency. "When you don't have stats to back up a stall in that dressing room, you better provide some jam. We didn't get enough of it early and it was our undoing." With Western Conference standings as tight as they are and just one game removed from the humiliation against the Sabres, how the could the Oilers possibly be as indifferent as they appeared against the Predators?

"We have to take the responsibility to take care of our own business," said MacTavish. "We haven't done that for a few years here. "When you get a game like that where you can drive a nail in, you get the game. You can always exhibit the urgency and the intensity. The one thing you want to show in a game like that, as we saw in the Minnesota game, is the intensity from everybody. "That's why guys fail to establish themselves as NHL players. They can't be counted on. They can't bring the consistency. It's a tease. It's every four or five games for a few guys. We need more consistent jam."

Let's let captain Ethan Moreau, who played his backside off and finished the game with nine shots, but got no sniff, take a whirl at explaining it. "We didn't have the urgency to score goals we needed and it was obvious," said Moreau. "It's really frustrating. I thought we'd respond better, but we didn't. It's not everybody. There were guys who worked really hard, but we didn't have enough. It wasn't enough. I'm not going to make excuses. That wasn't good enough. We need more through our line-up."

Lack of jam. Not enough intensity. An absence of commitment. Hmm, does that sound like a problem to you?

DOG DAYS

Leading the lethargy for the umpteenth time this season was Penner, who is playing himself back into the doghouse. With just two goals in his last 19 games, Penner pumped the pooch for a couple of periods before taking a ride on the pine for the second straight game. "From my perspective, it's a case of he's lost his game," said MacTavish, resisting the urge to carve Penner another orifice from which to poop as he did a couple months ago.

"It's more his play with the puck. When you have a guy like (Ales) Hemsky playing at the level he's at now, all you've got to do is get the puck to him somewhere between the hash marks in your own end and the red line and you’re going to get a chance. "Every time he touches the puck, he's creating a chance. He (Hemsky) is an elite player at the top of his game now and we've got to find somebody . . . We need somebody who can go in there and make some plays. I can't give him the ice time when we need performance so badly."

I can't imagine why GM Steve Tambellini wouldn't try to dump Penner before the trade deadline, but I can't think of any team foolish enough to take on his contract. One way or another, Tambellini has to find a way to get more production from his left side.

Penner's funk is far from Tambellini's only problem, even if it might be the most pressing.

But, hey, relax. Have some chips. Beverage?

-- Listen to Robin Brownlee every Thursday from 4 to 6 p.m. on Just A Game with Jason Gregor on TEAM 1260.

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#1 Di-Hard Oiler
February 01 2009, 09:08PM
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Good read Robin. Do you think we will ever see Tencer say it the way it is, or Hallsy ever admit that there are problems with this team?

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#2 CurtisS
February 01 2009, 09:10PM
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Does Mact's comments mean Reddox is done??

I mean he doesnt have the stats and has been playing terrible.

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#3 RobinB
February 01 2009, 09:13PM
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@ Di-Hard Oiler: Tencer isn't in a position to say what he really thinks without considering that his job is with the radio rightsholder that's expected to sell a product. The truth is, though, Tencer is far more critical than he was when he started, even if he still errs on the side of staying positive. Hallsy doesn't know anything about the team aside from what he reads in the morning papers.

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#4 Di-Hard Oiler
February 01 2009, 09:15PM
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@ CurtisS: When it comes to MacT's mancrushes and his boys in the doghouse, I don't believe a thing he says. Reddox will most likely get first line promotion with Penner being on the outs again.

Remember, MacT was lavishing praise on Schremp after his 2nd game this year with the Oilers, and then a few weeks later, MacT unleashes one of the most un-professional rants I have ever heard in sports.

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#5 rindog
February 01 2009, 09:16PM
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@ CurtisS:

Are you kidding?

Didn't you see who he had out there in Penner's spot against Minnesota?

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#6 rindog
February 01 2009, 09:18PM
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@ RobinB:

I'm not sure that Tencer is any more knowledgable than Hall?

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#7 Pat H
February 01 2009, 09:27PM
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re: Robin's comments on Tencer and Hallsy

I think Robin is bang on about Tencer, in both respects (a. he often has to bite his tongue to due where he's employed and b. notwithstanding a., he's becoming more critical).

Nice remark about Hallsy. I'm sure you veteran reporters must have some precious anecdotes about about that 50+- years-in-broadcasting legend, who now often styles himself as "The" Hallsy (with a hat tip to The Warrior??).

I'd love to read some Hallsy stories sometime...

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#8 Pat H
February 01 2009, 09:28PM
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eek. I needed to proofread that. When is that "edit" function coming?

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#9 Jack "slacking off at work" Bauer
February 01 2009, 09:31PM
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This team lacks a whole lot of a lot. It has no depth, a severe lack of talent, and its lazy. When the team goes right into the shitter when it loses 1 player, thats a bad sign. When your top AHL player isnt even capable of being up in the NHL, thats a bad sign. And when your team are a lazy bunch of overpaid bums, thats a problem.

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#10 Jay
February 01 2009, 09:40PM
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I se Horcoff gets another free pass. He's Mr. Invisible. Penner isn't the most pressing contract to move, it's Horcoff. A #3 center being paid and playing #1 ice time and PP time and he isn't deserving of it based on his play with and without the puck, he's soft and he isn't a gritty player. If Ales isn't holding his hand what do you get? Jack shet. Lowe opver paid him, MacT over played him, and now they're stuck with that pile.

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#11 CurtisS
February 01 2009, 09:43PM
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@ Jay:

He tries hard and brings JAM. I thought you would of known.

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#12 TonyT
February 01 2009, 09:45PM
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Was at the game today and I can't say I wasn't disappointed. I don't know who to blame but this year's edition of my team is getting harder and harder to watch. MacT's post game commentary has become quite reduntant. At what point will the Oilers address their "not enough jam." If this 30 year anniversary has a theme of "not enough jam," why not let the fans in on it? It's become pretty clear that the Oilers are willing to go on with this theme without making significant changes (coaching or players). My question then becomes was it not the Oilers team goal this year not only to make the playoffs but to win the division title as well? And with the Flames running away with the division while the rest of the Northwest seems mired in their own mediocrity, why has management been so slow to react to an increasinly unlikely goal? I love this team and in 6 years I have only missed a handful of games, if this team is unwilling to make significant changes in the offseason, I fear the only way for philosophical change to occur would be to affect their bottom line.

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#13 pmg2
February 01 2009, 09:46PM
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@ CurtisS: Nobody is exempt from this inconsistent fiasco we call the Oilers ! Take a look.......

(1) Roloson was paid millions and kept for 3 years as a loyalty reward for 1 playoff year. Although we can't blame the team's incessant inconsistency on him. (2) Fernando Pisani was rewarded the same....although less illustriously. He's now injured and not even in the picture. So no blame on him. Just the lost salary. (3) Shawn Horcoff was made (avg salary cap figure) a multi millionaire @ 5.5 million cap hit (?) for the next how many years ? And he had a career 1/2 year last year up to the all-star break !? (4) Who's that guy they got from Anaheim ??? O yeah ! Penner ! Was he worth the desperation of management to seize someone for some sort of "improvement statement" made by this club ?? It looks that way. They couldn't get what they really wanted so he was the consolation.

Enough for now on the salary vs Return topic. There's plenty where that came from.

(5) Is there anybody in this dressing room who turns ugly and dangerous to sit beside after an inexcusable loss (or many ?). I dare not say Mark Messier (who would have smacked anybody not giving consistent efforts) ! We don't need a Messier duplicate,.....but really,... what other player alternative do we have who takes it personally and shows it !!!?? I listened to a speech the other day from one of the key players on this team,...and all I heard was the best diplomatic re-directed speech I have come accustomed to hearing !! The end result ......nobody takes it seriously enough to be upset enough and pop the buttons on their suit jackets and blow steam out of their ears after the game !!! (6) Why have we been seeing the same old ridiculous story for many years now ?? Start the season with promise, or at least a reasonable facsimile of it......see the inconsistency through the dog days of winter, then fight like hell to make it it to the finish line.....often not succeeding !!!! What is wrong with this picture ??

I guess that's why I don't watch these clowns anymore. Some players are clearly not good enough to be legitimmate NHL'ers. Others are not intelligent enough between the ears. Yet others are clearly not tough enough between the ears. They say that at this level, it's at least 70% mental preparation and roughly 30% skill !!!! Need I say more ??

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#14 CurtisS
February 01 2009, 09:51PM
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@ pmg2: So you are blaming the players?

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#15 Hockey Gods
February 01 2009, 09:52PM
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@ pmg2: Deep Oil is that you?

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#16 pmg2
February 01 2009, 09:56PM
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@ CurtisS: Yes, some of them. And specific management as well. In this fiasco,....everyone (well almost everyone) is accountable. I would not place people like Souray or Hemsky on that list today,...but there's plenty of blame to be shared here. It's an 8yr long (or roughly that) problem. At this level, there are no excuses not to be reasonably and consistently prepared to do your job. It's rather plain and simple. people can take a loss with a decent effort. But not with an indecent inconsistent one. Brownie's writeup outlines some important principles. He's a good sports writer.

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#17 TonyT
February 01 2009, 09:56PM
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@ Jay Totally agree, we often hear about Horcoffs intagibles, at $7 million (next year) the intagibles we should be concerned with is putting the puck in the net. If we can move that contract, we trade anyone (except Hemsky and Eberle). If Gagner's our centre of the future, it's a pretty distant future with Horcoff making $5.5 mil for the next 6 years. Also, speaking of intangibles, what are Brodziak's? For a "third line center" I fail to see what he has to offer. He can't win faceoffs, he's not particularly fast (like Marchant was), he's not physical (like a Kesler). If our motto this year is "not enough jam" Brodziak's the poster boy!

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#18 Jay
February 01 2009, 09:56PM
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CurtisS wrote:

@ Jay: He tries hard and brings JAM. I thought you would of known.

The jam he brings, is it strawberry or raspberry? I know it's not marmalade, that's just not real jam.

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#19 pmg2
February 01 2009, 09:59PM
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@ Hockey Gods: No man. Just another new player in these chat boards. I thought I'd offer up some intelligent conversation. I've grown rather severely fed up of this team ! So much, that I have considered cutting the umbilical cord after many many years of mediocrity, ....then another 8 or so of inconsistency, then after the new collective agreement --- no excuses hockey !

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#20 Wanye Gretz
February 01 2009, 10:03PM
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pmg2 wrote:

@ Hockey Gods: No man. Just another new player in these chat boards. I thought I’d offer up some intelligent conversation. I’ve grown rather severely fed up of this team ! So much, that I have considered cutting the umbilical cord after many many years of mediocrity, ….then another 8 or so of inconsistency, then after the new collective agreement — no excuses hockey !

I'm going to pretend that your name stands for Pretty Mean Guy Too.

Yeah, that's the stuff. Welcome aboard PMG2.

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#21 pmg2
February 01 2009, 10:15PM
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@ Wanye Gretz: This market needs toughness my friend. People should see what happens in Montreal. Sheldon Souray quoted just last week that this place is "kindergarten" compared to Montreal. I go a waaaay back to the Oil when they were playing in the old Edmonton Gardens in the WHA days. Simply, there's no excuse for these clowns to "not be prepared to play consistent hockey" ,...Period. If they had half the passion and anger of some of their pissed-off fans,we wouldn't be talking like this on these message boards !

A buddy of mine who I played Midget AAA with is now retired from the NHL. Quite some time ago as a matter of fact. He's played against the likes of Gretzky, Kurri, et al. He can't understand why these guys have never gotten past 2nd gear since the early 90's !!! Part of it we could understand as a result of the old "small market" before the new collective agreement. But now ?? There's simply no excuse. They just can't seem to take that next step toward the middle echelon of their conference ----and stay there (that's referring to the middle of the top 8 playoff spots) !! Like I said on my other posts. Blame can be shared in various aspects here. Chow.

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#22 Travis Dakin
February 01 2009, 10:22PM
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I've been thinking... It is getting hard being an Oilers fan. Think about it, Why are we even still together? It's been 28 years of marriage and sure, in the beginning it was amazing. So many highs and good memories. But in the last oh... 18 years or so we've been going through the motions. I get up in the morning and pour myself a bowl of corn flakes and I look across the table and see The Oilers and I think, Dammit, how many more years do I gotta put up with this? I'm only still here because of the kids and divorce is a b*tch and sure, they got those bolt on's a couple years ago to spice things up in the bedroom but that didn't last. Back to the same old routine. I need some passion. Some excitement. Do I dare trade them in for a newer, younger, more sexy model that lets me be me and makes me feel alive?

No, I wake up tomorrow morning, pour that same bowl of cornflakes and hope with all hope that.... I will be struck in the head and have all memories of the last 18 years wiped clean and all I will know is good times.

Love will be strong again.

Forever copper and blue (sometimes bright orange)

*sigh*

Till DEATH, do us part!!!

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#23 Hockey Gods
February 01 2009, 10:52PM
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@ pmg2: I like your passion brother, I feel your pain and it seems we think alike.

@ Travis Dakin: Great analogy, it seems like we are in the same place in this marriage.

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#24 David S
February 01 2009, 11:31PM
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pmg2 wrote:

We don’t need a Messier duplicate...

On the contrary, I think we do. Problem is, those guys don't exist in the modern era of soft everything.

But wouldn't it be something if we could acquire Messier as an assistant coach instead of Kelly "along for the ride" Buchberger. That would be something, wouldn't it?

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#25 CurtisS
February 01 2009, 11:54PM
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Its coaching and managment. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure it out. We have changed over so many players every year. Yet same results.

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#26 Pokie Reddik
February 02 2009, 12:08AM
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My hat off to you Robin, a great article. also what do you think, it was pointed out to me and I felt it at the game, There seems to be no atmosphere at Rexal, It really seems like there is no music to get the fans going, fans should do thier part but the staff really never seemed to really try. No wonder they play better on the road where they are scared to get the fans on them again.

Pokie

@ Garon

It's one game your nerves are gone, you now know your team mates...Youll do well

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#27 Oiler fan since 1982
February 02 2009, 12:11AM
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I just don't think that the players want to play for this management team and management is not capable to make them or trade them because other players don't want to come to Edmonton because of the management. So it is a cach 22 and untill the management is gone there will be no good team in Edmonton.

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#28 Donovan
February 02 2009, 01:03AM
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How is Robin not with a local newspaper still? I like to hear someone tell it like it is. Good stuff.

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#29 OvenChicken8
February 02 2009, 01:05AM
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rindog wrote:

@ RobinB: I’m not sure that Tencer is any more knowledgable than Hall?

He is, it's just that you need to get a couple kool-aids in him before he spills what he really thinks.

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#30 Pokie Reddik
February 02 2009, 01:16AM
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OvenChicken8 wrote:

rindog wrote: @ RobinB: I’m not sure that Tencer is any more knowledgable than Hall? He is, it’s just that you need to get a couple kool-aids in him before he spills what he really thinks.

he's too die hard he would (edited by WG) before he would dis anybody, he might lose some "privalges" so he sees no evil

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#31 Deep Oil
February 02 2009, 07:18AM
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Pat H wrote:

re: Robin’s comments on Tencer and Hallsy I think Robin is bang on about Tencer, in both respects (a. he often has to bite his tongue to due where he’s employed and b. notwithstanding a., he’s becoming more critical). Nice remark about Hallsy. I’m sure you veteran reporters must have some precious anecdotes about about that 50+- years-in-broadcasting legend, who now often styles himself as “The” Hallsy (with a hat tip to The Warrior??). I’d love to read some Hallsy stories sometime…

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Hallsy is the hardest working media person in Edmonton -when it comes to the morning show, noon sports, afternoon call in and broadcast duties - in comparison A Rod just works for the Oiler Radio Network and calls it day... where's my cheque....

Hallsy is an instituition for the over 55 Ched Old Age Home demo - how many Oiler Nation would listen to Ched if it werent for the newly ramped up Dan T show - who was a call screener in his prior teenage (LOL) life..... bottom line: Ched is motherspeak due to big brother Allan Watt and I don't even bother listening to post game until callers come on if the Team 1260 post game is done... it is funny to see the callers challenge the youngster newbie - I believe that ALL Ched sports broadcasters must take OILER indoctrination training as part of the HR component while they are the righstholder - GOLA did not appear on their station.

Note THE TEAM 990 (Astral Radio) owns the rights to the Habs and Astral may have an interest in paying too much for the Edmonton Oiler rights to create a property brand for the whole perspective - with game day from 2PM on - remote broadcast from Rexall and new personalities with old one's returning (Bob Stauffer)

BTW - in the old days Hallsy was over 200 pounds, pounded back the pops, was called huggy bear and the stories at CHED Christmas parties are legendary - now he is slim, trim, takes his wife to all road games, and is not slowing down - Jason Gregor should be his replacement for play by play with Morley Scott available for work once his two year honoary payout from Katz over the Stauffer hire ends.

Think about this the average radio personality is on the air 3 hours a day with very little show prep.. Hallsy puts in 5 hours a day with brodcast responsibilites, practise and travel and also sells his own air time - he taught number one morning show personality Gord Whitehead how to earn / shill extra coin while on the air.

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#32 Deep Oil
February 02 2009, 07:24AM
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pmg2 wrote:

@ CurtisS: Nobody is exempt from this inconsistent fiasco we call the Oilers ! Take a look……. (1) Roloson was paid millions and kept for 3 years as a loyalty reward for 1 playoff year. Although we can’t blame the team’s incessant inconsistency on him. (2) Fernando Pisani was rewarded the same….although less illustriously. He’s now injured and not even in the picture. So no blame on him. Just the lost salary. (3) Shawn Horcoff was made (avg salary cap figure) a multi millionaire @ 5.5 million cap hit (?) for the next how many years ? And he had a career 1/2 year last year up to the all-star break !? (4) Who’s that guy they got from Anaheim ??? O yeah ! Penner ! Was he worth the desperation of management to seize someone for some sort of “improvement statement” made by this club ?? It looks that way. They couldn’t get what they really wanted so he was the consolation. Enough for now on the salary vs Return topic. There’s plenty where that came from. (5) Is there anybody in this dressing room who turns ugly and dangerous to sit beside after an inexcusable loss (or many ?). I dare not say Mark Messier (who would have smacked anybody not giving consistent efforts) ! We don’t need a Messier duplicate,…..but really,… what other player alternative do we have who takes it personally and shows it !!!?? I listened to a speech the other day from one of the key players on this team,…and all I heard was the best diplomatic re-directed speech I have come accustomed to hearing !! The end result ……nobody takes it seriously enough to be upset enough and pop the buttons on their suit jackets and blow steam out of their ears after the game !!! (6) Why have we been seeing the same old ridiculous story for many years now ?? Start the season with promise, or at least a reasonable facsimile of it……see the inconsistency through the dog days of winter, then fight like hell to make it it to the finish line…..often not succeeding !!!! What is wrong with this picture ?? I guess that’s why I don’t watch these clowns anymore. Some players are clearly not good enough to be legitimmate NHL’ers. Others are not intelligent enough between the ears. Yet others are clearly not tough enough between the ears. They say that at this level, it’s at least 70% mental preparation and roughly 30% skill !!!! Need I say more ??

Items 1 - 4 - are KLOWE's responsibility and now we are a capped out team with underachievers - is KLOWE learning very quickly from KATZ how to be silent and miss the bullet - oh I forgot it is his team with Katz being the mute alleged billionaire with his father as his mouthpiece for public appearances at Rexall for the common folk and serfs.

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#33 Deep Oil
February 02 2009, 07:27AM
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OvenChicken8 wrote:

rindog wrote: @ RobinB: I’m not sure that Tencer is any more knowledgable than Hall? He is, it’s just that you need to get a couple kool-aids in him before he spills what he really thinks.

I thought Dan T was underage - that is why you never see him in the media lounge....

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#34 RobinB
February 02 2009, 07:28AM
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@ Deep Oil: You're right about Hall, so you've obviously got some insight into what he does or you've worked with him. His workload is amazing for a guy who has been making $150,000-plus a year for a long time and could kick up his heels and take it easy. He sure can sell and that's why he's still on the air. A lot of younger guys in the business could learn from him.

Brian oesn't spend much time around the Oilers, though, although he does have tickets. I used to look forward to his translation of our stories from the newspaper on his morning casts -- often word for word with no credit.

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#35 BUCK75
February 02 2009, 07:44AM
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So the Senators have just fired Coach Hartsburg. MAybe our team should try something crazy like that - instead of waiting to see if we can trade 5 or 6 passengers....

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#36 Deep Oil
February 02 2009, 07:56AM
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RobinB wrote:

@ Deep Oil: You’re right about Hall, so you’ve obviously got some insight into what he does or you’ve worked with him. His workload is amazing for a guy who has been making $150,000-plus a year for a long time and could kick up his heels and take it easy. He sure can sell and that’s why he’s still on the air. A lot of younger guys in the business could learn from him. Brian oesn’t spend much time around the Oilers, though, although he does have tickets. I used to look forward to his translation of our stories from the newspaper on his morning casts — often word for word with no credit.

I forgot he did the video remote for Global in the past as well at the crack of dawn - must be tough as his trademark hair (real) must be in place in comparison to other personalities with faces for radio that smoke during commercials and songs outside...and expect freebies because they think they are a celebrity in ETOWN when if fact they are a personality.

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#37 Deep Oil
February 02 2009, 07:58AM
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OILERSNATION has crossed the line and is working with the dark side - www.flamesnation.ca - war is upon us.

I am sure NUCKSNATION.ca is next.

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#38 Deep Oil
February 02 2009, 08:04AM
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BUCK75 wrote:

So the Senators have just fired Coach Hartsburg. MAybe our team should try something crazy like that - instead of waiting to see if we can trade 5 or 6 passengers….

Good News - see what happens when you have an on hands owner - the GM or President of Hockey Operations fears for his job - Katz should go to Melnyk media school.

Bad News: you sit out 7.5 million in salaries cap hit based on bad decisions combined with paying two excoaches and one ex general manager.

Speaking of the Sens - here is one of my favorite bad boys second to Sean Avery - having a disagreement with the team trainer.

YouTube - Ray Emery Fights Team Trainer in Russian KHLRay Emery has appeared in Russias Continental Hockey League (KHL). The fiery former Ottawa Senators goaltender is seen in a physical altercation beside the ... youtube.com/?v=LiHHS-wjyw8 - 95k - 7 hours ago - Cached - Similar pages

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#39 Deep Oil
February 02 2009, 08:08AM
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So the Senators have just fired Coach Hartsburg. MAybe our team should try something crazy like that - instead of waiting to see if we can trade 5 or 6 passengers….

Crazy would be to keep this entire group with Lowe and MACT - Sane would be to show them the door, keep tambo and hire Pat Quinn - ooops too late with the Sens needing a coach. There is hope for Doug MacLean - LOL.

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#40 Darcy
February 02 2009, 08:09AM
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MacTavish is quoted in the Sun today with:

"We have to take the responsibility to take care of our own business and we haven't done that for a few years here,"

So the coach admits that this has been a problem for a few years.

What the Coach doesn't say is that there were 4 forwards suited up yesterday who suited up for the Oilers 3 years ago. Horcoff, Hemsky, Moreau, and if you want to count him Pouliot.

I'm not a MacT hater, but if the problem is the same with new personnel, guess where the problem lies?

Either that, or Lowe has filled the roster with players who don't give a shit.

Probably some of both.

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#41 Smokin' Ray
February 02 2009, 08:13AM
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ok. Those of us that are old enough to remember the 90's. Those were bad times. This is NOT the worst Oiler team yet. So we as fans don't really have it that bad. Quit complaining and start cheering. This team isn't that crappy. I mean really... we could have DeBrusk back as a player. Or Kovalenko. or MacT as a player. Check out the 1994 team. Not very good.

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#42 Deep Oil
February 02 2009, 08:16AM
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Donovan wrote:

How is Robin not with a local newspaper still? I like to hear someone tell it like it is. Good stuff.

RobinB has an exclusive no trade clause and is the MAX writer at ON - all other newspapers are using wire copy with a frugal local beat writer budget - and have to tow the line in terms of OILERSPEAK - otherwise access will be denied - just like Allan Watt did with denial of service on Friday to Oiler Nation. The last time I checked, the Edmonton Sun closed it's doors and sent all local sports writers home.

Canwest Global can't afford to hire anyone - is at a near record low 0.53 in comparison to $15 one year ago - can you say NORTEL... Asper is rolling in his grave..

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#43 Deep Oil
February 02 2009, 08:19AM
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Smokin' Ray wrote:

ok. Those of us that are old enough to remember the 90’s. Those were bad times. This is NOT the worst Oiler team yet. So we as fans don’t really have it that bad. Quit complaining and start cheering. This team isn’t that crappy. I mean really… we could have DeBrusk back as a player. Or Kovalenko. or MacT as a player. Check out the 1994 team. Not very good.

so what you are telling me that dating a pregnant woman is better than dating a fat chick (the pregnant woman has a chance of gettihg slim)- get on your moped and pedal your pansification ass out of here

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#44 RobinB
February 02 2009, 08:53AM
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Smokin' Ray wrote:

ok. Those of us that are old enough to remember the 90’s. Those were bad times. This is NOT the worst Oiler team yet. So we as fans don’t really have it that bad. Quit complaining and start cheering. This team isn’t that crappy. I mean really… we could have DeBrusk back as a player. Or Kovalenko. or MacT as a player. Check out the 1994 team. Not very good.

Citing the lowest common denominator -- the awful teams of the mid-1990s -- isn't exactly a ringing endorsement. Fans didn't expect those teams to contend and they didn't. That's a far cry from a team that the organization believed would contend for the NW Division title. Totally different set of expectations.

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#45 smytty777
February 02 2009, 08:54AM
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Went to my first game last night and I noticed that the Oilers did not even attempt to forecheck at any point during the game. I've watched all the games on TV, but I haven't noticed this previously.

Is this an every game occurence or was it just particularly pathetic against the Preds yesterday?

With 5 min. left in the third and the Oil down by a goal the Oilers had all 5 guys in the neutral zone while the Preds broke out on a couple of different occasions, I mean WTF?

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#46 Fortboy
February 02 2009, 08:56AM
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when will Catz (Andy spelling) and Lowebellini gonna do something!?! C'mon you WIMPS make a damn trade. Penner doesn't just suck...he blows too.

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#47 Travis Dakin
February 02 2009, 09:03AM
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@ smytty777:

See, that's exactly the balance this team is missing. A couple of years ago, the Oilers were always a relentless forechecking machine. They lacked the star power to finish but through sheer determination and effort they were able to compete. So, management is finally able to compete financially and all these hard working role players are replaced with high priced finesse. Problem with that is that there is no drive and determination anymore. except a few players.

The oilers organization is "new money" Like Sather when he went to NYR and had all of the new found wealth to spend, it will take some time to learn how to spend it right. They are learning and eventually will realize that as Awesome as it is to have a Visnovsky on your team, (and I really love that guy) when you have three similar players, maybe it would be better to keep some of the leadership and grit of say a Stoll and a Greene.

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#48 Deep Oil
February 02 2009, 09:51AM
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Fortboy wrote:

when will Catz (Andy spelling) and Lowebellini gonna do something!?! C’mon you WIMPS make a damn trade. Penner doesn’t just suck…he blows too.

nobody can trade due to greedy cap expenditures by most GM's - the teams below the cap have their owm guidelines... if you want to get rid of penner - you would have to take Mike Fischer or snake bitten Heatley ($8mm) with Nillson so you are not trading players - you are trading cap and dollars - unless you are tampa and need to dump salary to meet payroll

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#49 Dennis Castro
February 02 2009, 09:54AM
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That game was worse than the Buffalo game, Nashville is a team you need to beat. The Oilers have to many people not doing anything on too many nights, and I dont mean just Penner. I could not see the game, but listened and it seems like the Oilers are afraid to hit or physically engage the other team and with Tootoo out they should have dominated Nashville physically. They dont play with any energy, or urgency, but these have been year long tendancies and I dont see them changing any time soon unless some changes are made.

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#50 RobinB
February 02 2009, 09:58AM
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Fortboy wrote:

when will Catz (Andy spelling) and Lowebellini gonna do something!?! C’mon you WIMPS make a damn trade. Penner doesn’t just suck…he blows too.

Sorry, but a pet peeve: Did this site become the Cult of Hockey when I wasn't looking? There is nobody with the Oilers named "Lowebellini."

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