Jaromir Jagr: Edmonton Oiler? (Final Update Edition)

Jonathan Willis
February 10 2009 12:26PM

Jagr with the Rangers

According to a report published by the Edmonton Journal’s David Staples, the Edmonton Oilers are close to signing KHL forward Jaromir Jagr. This information, from an anonymous source, was passed on to Staples by Peter Adler, a hockey journalist with close ties to Russia. The anonymous source declined to offer any information as to the specifics of the contract or when it might be finalized.

Jagr has spent this season with HC Avangard Omsk (Omsk Vanguard), leading the team in scoring with 25 goals and 51 points through 48 games. The next nearest goal-scorer has 13, and the next nearest point-scorer has only 40. Omsk is in the middle of the pack in the KHL, only one game over .500, but Jagr looks to have been sensational. I don’t need to discuss his NHL career; suffice to say he would be a major boost to the Oilers’ forward corps.

Avangard signed Jagr to a multi-year contract in the offseason, but they haven’t exactly had a tranquil year. Alexei Cherepanov’s death resulted in heavy punishments to the Club director and the medical staff, and both the general manager (Anatoly Bardin) and president (Konstantin Potapov) are still under investigation. On top of that, starting goaltender John Grahame was bought out of his contract, and the head coach was fired by the team mid-game, than told he wasn’t fired, and then fired for good a few weeks later. Fleming was supposedly personally recruited to Omsk by Jaromir Jagr. Given the turbulent season Omsk has had to date, it would be unsurprising if Jagr were eager to return to the NHL.

That said, I have some very real doubts about the likelihood of this happening. Wade Dubielewicz, for example, was bought out of his KHL contract and subsequently signed by the New York Islanders. Unfortunately for the Islanders, under article 13.23 of the CBA, any player returning from another league after the start of the season must clear waivers. Here’s the article in its entirety:

In the event a professional or former professional Player plays in a league outside North America after the start of the NHL Regular Season, other than on Loan from his Club, he may thereafter play in the NHL during that Playing Season (including Playoffs) only if he has first either cleared or been obtained via Waivers. For the balance of the Playing Season, any such Player who has been obtained via Waivers may be Traded or Loaned only after again clearing Waivers or through Waiver claim.

Since Jagr was not playing in Russia on loan from the Oilers, he would seem to fall into this category of players. The only circumstance where I could see Jagr clearing waivers would be on a contract that was so repulsive that other teams would be unwilling to claim him.

The Oilers have some cap space, especially with the unpleasant news today that Lubomir Visnovsky will be out for the remainder of the season. Still, playoff rivals Columbus, Nashville and Los Angeles all have more room, so a loaded one year contract would likely not be enough to sneak Jagr past them.

Beyond a loaded, multi-year contract of rather frightening proportions, I simply don’t see how the Oilers could possibly sneak Jaromir Jagr through the waiver wire.

UPDATE:

Staples is now reporting that Kevin Lowe has issued a denial (sort of), quoting Lowe as saying, "Jaromir is under contract in the KHL".  Given the lack of a transfer agreement, Jagr's KHL contract is essentially meaningless to NHL teams, but the fact that he would need to clear waivers is not.

UPDATE #2:

Pierre LeBrun of ESPN, easily one of the most knowledgeable and connected guys out there, has chimed in on his blog.  Jagr's NHL agent, Pat Brisson stated that he hadn't heard from Jagr in five months, and that he had no knowledge of any developments between Jagr and the Oilers.  Steve Tambellini declined to comment on the situation, and an anonymous source told LeBrun that while the Oilers had recently approached Jagr, Jagr was still committed to Avangard Omsk.

LeBrun further notes that Kevin Lowe is currently in Europe.

UPDATE #3:

Steve Tambellini's comments on the Jagr rumour:

"Are we always trying to improve our team? Yes.  Am I gonna comment on things that are speculative? No, I'm not gonna do that. There's going to be an issue a day I think on things like this."

As I explained above, I really doubt that this happens, because the waiver situation makes it virtually impossible.  That said, could the hockey people in this organization possibly be making more ambiguous comments? 

UPDATE #4:

Sportsnet pretty much puts this one to rest.  In addition to an anonymous (but apparently high-ranking) Oilers' official calling the report "bogus", Sportsnet talked to Jaroslav Zidek, Jagr's European agent, who said that he was unaware of any advances made by the Oilers.

Given that Lowe is in Europe and given the comments made by Pierre LeBrun above, I'd guess that there was some contact between Lowe and Jagr, possibly with regard to next season.  That said, the odds of Jagr finishing this season with the Oilers are so miniscule as to be non-existent at this point.

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#51 Ssseth
February 10 2009, 02:31PM
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Good job being one of the first blogs out there to pick up on this Willis. As far as I can tell, you even beat TSN. I love this site!

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#52 Zamboni Driver
February 10 2009, 02:34PM
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@ BUCK75: I think the major problem is right now, we are ONE PLAYER - total...not so much "...one away..."

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#53 Ender the Dragon
February 10 2009, 02:38PM
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Ssseth wrote:

Good job being one of the first blogs out there to pick up on this Willis. As far as I can tell, you even beat TSN. I love this site!

True, but unlike TSN, Jon doesn't have to worry about his reporting if he doesn't have 100% of the details right. He knows we'll still love him anyway. TSN, on the other hand, might look really dumb if they reported that Jagr was definitely NOT coming and then a week later he amazes everyone and pulls on a blue and copper sweater, so TSN is a bit more cautious about confirming before going live. I expect they'll have their confirmation and their story out not too far behind Jon.

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#54 Deep Oil
February 10 2009, 02:38PM
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Greg MC wrote:

@ Deep Oil: Paper, money, Katz gots it; Jags wants it.

Katz has to play within the salary cap - so he could have all the borrowed money in the world - it really doesn't matter when KLOWE has overspent on average players - EPS commercial crimes should of been called for FRAUD as Penner, Horcoff, and Pisani picked his pocket.

Mr. Greg MC - this does not revolve around money - our team situation should be judged on performance for dollars and KLOWE has NOT given MACT the horses to run with this. If you are going to FIRE MAC - KLOWE should be holding the door and on the way out rather than sucking off the mother breast called OILER for the past 10 years.

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#55 Deep Oil
February 10 2009, 02:43PM
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@ Deep Oil: I think it’s all 3 Deep Oil; The weather; he played in Pitt, Wash and NY, he loves the cold. He could have demanded Florida or LA The women; come on man, nothing says Alberta like our beef. It’s the steroids in the milk. Playoff contender; No brainer! MacT said we were going to compete for the division so it must be true. The better question is why WOULDN’T he want to come to Edmonton? Things run pretty smooth around here…pretty smooth indeed.

Sure just ask the following loved oilers:

1) Jason Arnott 2) Mike Comrie 3) Chris Pronger 4) Joffrey Lupul

Fans and Lowe are guilty of treating people like crap when the team down the street is paying the same with no fishbowl - so why stay here and freeze if you could pick a more southern climate and have dinner without being interupted......

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#56 Pokie Reddik
February 10 2009, 02:43PM
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Rumour has it K-Lowe and Tambill have already talked to MacT this past week. If MacT feels he can't do the job then Bucky is the one who will take over for the remainder of the season. The Balls are in MacT's Corner.

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#57 Greg MC
February 10 2009, 02:46PM
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Deep Oil wrote:

Greg MC wrote: @ Deep Oil: Paper, money, Katz gots it; Jags wants it. Katz has to play within the salary cap - so he could have all the borrowed money in the world - it really doesn’t matter when KLOWE has overspent on average players - EPS commercial crimes should of been called for FRAUD as Penner, Horcoff, and Pisani picked his pocket. Mr. Greg MC - this does not revolve around money - our team situation should be judged on performance for dollars and KLOWE has NOT given MACT the horses to run with this. If you are going to FIRE MAC - KLOWE should be holding the door and on the way out rather than sucking off the mother breast called OILER for the past 10 years.

I agree with your judgement on KLOWE. MacT can be dismissed on merit as many posters have identified the many reasons why. On the dollars, they would have to dump salary somehow, obviously.

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#58 Travis Dakin
February 10 2009, 02:46PM
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Pokie Reddik wrote:

Rumour has it K-Lowe and Tambill have already talked to MacT this past week. If MacT feels he can’t do the job then Bucky is the one who will take over for the remainder of the season. The Balls are in MacT’s Corner.

Oh... So that's how you start rumours.

Well i heard that they are going to trade for the rights to Gaborik and see what they can do with him in the stretch drive. Minny is despesrate to get at least something for him. Run with that!

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#59 Deep Oil
February 10 2009, 02:47PM
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Pokie Reddik wrote:

Rumour has it K-Lowe and Tambill have already talked to MacT this past week. If MacT feels he can’t do the job then Bucky is the one who will take over for the remainder of the season. The Balls are in MacT’s Corner.

This nepotism and incestous relationship back to the 80's has to stop - or is that why they are playing PRIVATE EYE's - rumour has no backing - where did this rumor come from MacT's wife's hairdresser ???? Note: Allan Watt will be calling you to stop spreading this rumor.

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#60 DaveS
February 10 2009, 02:47PM
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We could try him on the LW but what if he has "I can't Turn Left Disease", like Erik Cole?

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#61 Deep Oil
February 10 2009, 02:50PM
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Greg MC wrote:

Deep Oil wrote: Greg MC wrote: @ Deep Oil: Paper, money, Katz gots it; Jags wants it. Katz has to play within the salary cap - so he could have all the borrowed money in the world - it really doesn’t matter when KLOWE has overspent on average players - EPS commercial crimes should of been called for FRAUD as Penner, Horcoff, and Pisani picked his pocket. Mr. Greg MC - this does not revolve around money - our team situation should be judged on performance for dollars and KLOWE has NOT given MACT the horses to run with this. If you are going to FIRE MAC - KLOWE should be holding the door and on the way out rather than sucking off the mother breast called OILER for the past 10 years. I agree with your judgement on KLOWE. MacT can be dismissed on merit as many posters have identified the many reasons why. On the dollars, they would have to dump salary somehow, obviously.

Why is KLOWE crowned the King and NO ONE holds him accountable - MACT is too groundhog day for me - I would tune him out - play my heart out and sign elsewhere when I could - but then the FANS would burn me in effigy - just ask MIKE COMRIE.

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#62 Pokie Reddik
February 10 2009, 02:51PM
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Deep Oil wrote:

Pokie Reddik wrote: Rumour has it K-Lowe and Tambill have already talked to MacT this past week. If MacT feels he can’t do the job then Bucky is the one who will take over for the remainder of the season. The Balls are in MacT’s Corner. This nepotism and incestous relationship back to the 80’s has to stop - or is that why they are playing PRIVATE EYE’s - rumour has no backing - where did this rumor come from MacT’s wife’s hairdresser ???? Note: Allan Watt will be calling you to stop spreading this rumor.

It came from his toilet, why don't you do a little investigating and you can find out for your self. Ask a few people int he inner circle, Maybe Fred Stauffer can verify it for you.

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#63 Pokie Reddik
February 10 2009, 02:53PM
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As for the coaching in the 06 playoff run, get one of the star reporters to ask Jason Smith who took over the dressing room in 06 it was Pronger and Peca. Smith and Smyth will confirm it

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#64 Penny
February 10 2009, 02:57PM
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I was at an AA meeting and MacT told everyone.

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#65 Colin
February 10 2009, 02:59PM
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It's on tsn under the NHL tab now.

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#66 Jack "slacking off at work" Bauer
February 10 2009, 03:03PM
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@ Pokie Reddik:

You didnt learn your lesson when Brownlee undressed you the last time didnt you?

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#67 Penny
February 10 2009, 03:04PM
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Jack "slacking off at work" Bauer wrote:

@ Pokie Reddik: You didnt learn your lesson when Brownlee undressed you the last time didnt you?

My comment was way over Brownlee's head as well as yours.

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#68 Jonathan Willis
February 10 2009, 03:10PM
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Pokie Reddik wrote:

As for the coaching in the 06 playoff run, get one of the star reporters to ask Jason Smith who took over the dressing room in 06 it was Pronger and Peca. Smith and Smyth will confirm it

Were Pronger and Peca handling the line matchups too? I love the notion that people have that coaching is about giving pep talks to the guy and showing them how to score goals - it's far more than that, and as far as control of the dressing room goes, I'd suggest the guy with the authority to scratch and bag skate guys is always going to be in charge.

Regarding your MacT/Buchberger rumour, as much as I think that Buchberger would be the guy if MacTavish stepped down, do I need to get into why anonymous message board commenters aren't taken that seriously when they spread rumours based on their own information?

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#69 Travis Dakin
February 10 2009, 03:10PM
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@ Jonathan Willis:

There has to be a tinge of merit to at least part of the story I would think. These stories can't just come from no where. HAHAHA

but seriously, maybe there is a bit of denial as per the norm right now for information protection purposes?

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#70 5Cups
February 10 2009, 03:10PM
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Could his Russian team loan him to us like Tbay did with Vrbata only the other way. Any idea if this would eliminate the waiver issue? His Russian team is non playoff bound so I would think they would not mind shedding the Rubles.

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#71 Mike
February 10 2009, 03:10PM
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Ssseth wrote:

Good job being one of the first blogs out there to pick up on this Willis. As far as I can tell, you even beat TSN. I love this site!

Gregor had this on his show yesterday, and said zero chance Jagr clears waivers. Nice to see we have the guy who breaks stories, but doesn't has to thump his chest in doing so. Add in Brownlee and Willis and this site is getting better all the time.

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#72 APE
February 10 2009, 03:11PM
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Deep Oil wrote:

Anyone care to reason why he would want to come to Edmonton - the weather, women, playoff contender ?

Two words. ALES HEMSKY.

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#73 Jonathan Willis
February 10 2009, 03:11PM
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By the way, the post has been updated with information from Pierre LeBrun.

And everybody, could we play nice and not re-fight old battles again and again and again and again?

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#74 Jonathan Willis
February 10 2009, 03:13PM
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@ Travis Dakin:

I'd expect denials from the Oilers, especially the sort of ambiguous denial that Staples' quoted, if stuff was happening.

On the other hand, I can't possibly see how they could circumvent waivers.

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#75 APE
February 10 2009, 03:13PM
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bingofuel wrote:

According to a tweet from @iNews880 on Twitter, K-Lowe is in Russia.

What the hell is he doing in Russia?

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#76 Jonathan Willis
February 10 2009, 03:14PM
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5Cups wrote:

Could his Russian team loan him to us like Tbay did with Vrbata only the other way. Any idea if this would eliminate the waiver issue? His Russian team is non playoff bound so I would think they would not mind shedding the Rubles.

Unfortunately they can't; there's no transfer agreement between the KHL and NHL for that to happen. Even if there were, the CBA paragrpah above makes me think he would still need to clear waivers.

Incidentally, when the Lightning sent Vrbata back to Europe, he went through waivers first.

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#77 Offside
February 10 2009, 03:20PM
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I'm sick of these rumours, Lecavilier was "a done deal" according to sources as well.

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#78 cremps
February 10 2009, 03:22PM
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BUCK75 wrote:

& I can totally see him doing what the coach wants him to do. I agree we need more offence - but we will be adding another soft, streaky player as well. Don’t get me wrong, if it happened I would be pumped, but this team is full of holes. I wouldn’t be planning the parade route if he showed up either though. I am just getting a little tired of this whole “we are 1 player away” routine that seems to come around whenever we are sniffing around the play-off cut line. To get good, you have to get bad first - especially in the league now it seems like.

I know what you mean. In the past, we have tried to fill this "1 player" hole with a variety of 20+ goal guys (Penner, Cole, etc.). It would be interesting to see what a bonafied 30+ or 40+ goal guy would look like with Hemmer.

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#79 Jason Gregor
February 10 2009, 03:24PM
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Pokie Reddik wrote:

Rumour has it K-Lowe and Tambill have already talked to MacT this past week. If MacT feels he can’t do the job then Bucky is the one who will take over for the remainder of the season. The Balls are in MacT’s Corner.

Give your head a shake and stop starting blatant lies. There is ZERO chance Buchberger will be the next coach in Edmonton, unless it happens three or four years from now.

As for Jagr I also said there was no chance he would be here this year, because of his contract this year in the KHL.

Also, Jagr can play left wing and was quoted on the record as saying Hemsky is a player he really would love to play with. That means a bit, but clearly money talks and I could see the Oilers still offer him 6 million next year if they can't land a younger proven scorer.

With the Visnovsky news that he is done for the season, expect the Oilers to sniff around Schneider. He makes the exact same money as Visnovsky, and if the Oilers put him on LTI then his salary wouldn't count against the cap and they could bring in Schneider and not add any overall salary towards the cap. But if they keep Visnovksy on the IR then his salary does count against the cap.

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#80 Ender the Dragon
February 10 2009, 03:25PM
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APE wrote:

bingofuel wrote: According to a tweet from @iNews880 on Twitter, K-Lowe is in Russia. What the hell is he doing in Russia?

Maybe checking up on our star prospect Alexei Mikhnov, newest replacement for Liam Reddox on the top line.

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#81 Colin
February 10 2009, 03:28PM
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This seems to be getting a lot more spin that I'd think it deserves, it makes me suspicious (Not that I think the Oil will have Jagr this year-or any year really, but it would be pretty cool).

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#82 Jack "slacking off at work" Bauer
February 10 2009, 03:31PM
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Why wouldnt they put him on the LTI if hes done for the year?

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#83 APE
February 10 2009, 03:32PM
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@ Jason Gregor: Would there be any reason or benefit not to put Visnovsky on the LTIR?

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#84 me
February 10 2009, 03:44PM
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Obviously he is not going to be here this year.

But why is Kevin Lowe in Europe or specifically in Russia?

Seems to me there may be something to this story.

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#85 Colin
February 10 2009, 03:47PM
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me wrote:

Obviously he is not going to be here this year. But why is Kevin Lowe in Europe or specifically in Russia? Seems to me there may be something to this story.

Scouting? Vacation? Grab players for offseason? His secret other family? Legalized drugs and prostitution?

There's lots of reasons ;)

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#86 APE
February 10 2009, 03:54PM
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@ Colin:

Isn't that Tambo's job now?

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#87 me
February 10 2009, 03:56PM
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@ Colin:

LOL.

I don't think we have heard the end of this story.

If Kevin Lowe is in Russia and it was confirmed by Gregor that he is in Europe.

This story has some definite legs.

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#88 swany
February 10 2009, 04:11PM
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Would any team pick him up if the Oilers signed him to a 2 year 13 mil deal, if he said I will retire if anyone takes me that means the team that picks him up will be on the hook for 2.5 mil this year and the whole 6.5 next year I think that would scare off enough teams.

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#89 rindog
February 10 2009, 04:20PM
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@ swany:

I like it, I like it.....

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#90 swany
February 10 2009, 04:27PM
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rindog wrote:

@ swany: I like it, I like it…..

If and it's a big IF they want him there are ways around everything, Katz=money, you don't think that with the khl suffering big time Katz couldn't workout a buyout of that contract and like I posted you could scare enough teams off by getting Jagr involved.

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#91 Pokie Reddil
February 10 2009, 04:53PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Jason Gregor

I shook my head, Bucky would replace MacT if he DECIDES to STEP DOWN. not Lowe. You have contacts check it out. Now who says LIES, Oilers sniffing Schneider What they need on the Oilers need a stay at home D man to help your man Roli in net, PK ETC. More like the give away leader in Jason Smith.

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#92 swany
February 10 2009, 04:58PM
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Pokie Reddil wrote:

Jason Gregor wrote: Jason Gregor I shook my head, Bucky would replace MacT if he DECIDES to STEP DOWN. not Lowe. You have contacts check it out. Now who says LIES, Oilers sniffing Schneider What they need on the Oilers need a stay at home D man to help your man Roli in net, PK ETC. More like the give away leader in Jason Smith.

No they need to score, the D is fine and getting better. And if Bucky is the next coach I will flip out no way a guy one year in the NHL as a coach gets that job.

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#93 Pokie Reddik
February 10 2009, 04:59PM
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swany wrote:

Pokie Reddil wrote: Jason Gregor wrote: Jason Gregor I shook my head, Bucky would replace MacT if he DECIDES to STEP DOWN. not Lowe. You have contacts check it out. Now who says LIES, Oilers sniffing Schneider What they need on the Oilers need a stay at home D man to help your man Roli in net, PK ETC. More like the give away leader in Jason Smith. No they need to score, the D is fine and getting better. And if Bucky is the next coach I will flip out no way a guy one year in the NHL as a coach gets that job.

For the rest of the year

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#94 jdrevenge
February 10 2009, 06:12PM
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This report is smoking hot. I would take a 38 year old Jagr over Cole in a heart beat.

Pokkie- Gregors right. You gotta stop dropping these so called rumours. You're making yourself look like a giant idiot. The stuff rumours are made of is not you thinking things up. Worst part about it is the ones you're spouting make negative zero percent.

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#95 Smokey
February 10 2009, 06:55PM
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@ Colin: Have you not seen those gorgeous European honeys, I guess you have not seen that particular website...

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#96 David S
February 10 2009, 06:58PM
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Kevin Karius on Global Sports just crapped all over this rumor and Staples indirectly as well. Sounds alot like a well executed PR misdirect - intentionally leaking an ever so slightly plausible trade.

Pokie - trade rumors have to be leaked from someone at least perceived to have credibility, not some anonymouse internet tool.

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#97 David S
February 10 2009, 07:00PM
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Smokey wrote:

Have you not seen those gorgeous European honeys, I guess you have not seen that particular website…

Three words: Russian bride websites

*drool*

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#98 Robin B
February 10 2009, 07:22PM
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Jon: a total non-story based on a flimsy report by Uncle Pedro that's drawn almost 100 comments because you didn't check all the facts before writing your story.

I can understand such a sloppy effort from a MSM guy like Staples -- and burying the no-way "out" at the bottom so you can write it anyway before poo-pooing it -- but from a blogger with your reputation? Tsk tsk.

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#99 rindog
February 10 2009, 07:50PM
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@ Robin B:

Hey Robin?

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#100 rindog
February 10 2009, 07:51PM
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@ Robin B:

I just made it 100 on the button.....

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