The D-man situation

Jason Gregor
February 12 2009 11:40AM

After their biggest home win of the season, the Oilers’ players will enjoy a day of golfing with Daryl Katz and some of his friends in Palm Springs, but I’m guessing for Craig MacTavish and Steve Tambellini they will be sweating more from the Denis Grebeshkov injury than the desert heat.

Grebeshkov is out a minimum of two weeks with a high ankle sprain, and probably longer. Talk about baaaaaaaad timing for #37 and the Oilers. Two weeks ago the depth of the blueline was the best asset Tambellini had if he was seriously considering acquiring a scoring forward, but now it looks like a weakness, especially offensively.

Now the Oilers will have to go get another D-man. Smid can move into the top-four and play with Gilbert, or maybe they re-unite Staios/Smid and Gilbert/Souray, but either way the Oilers second-line PP unit won’t have a threat from the blueline.

Staios, Smid, Jason Strudwick and Theo Peckham -- who MacTavish said was the obvious call up -- are not going to quarterback the second unit. They might play Souray and Gilbert close to the entire two minutes, but that could be costly if they get lots of PP time.

The other option is having Sam Gagner play the point again, with Cogliano, Nilsson and Cole up front on a second unit, but even then you’d still have to use one of the defensive defenceman. Taylor Chorney is not ready to play, so does Tambellin look to acquire a puck mover who could also play on the PP?

The list is pretty short. I wrote last week about who might be available at the deadline, and the list of puck-moving D-men wasn’t very long. It might not be their first choice, but Mathieu Schneider looks awfully tempting now.

Who else? Filip Kuba? Jordan Leopold? The list isn’t very long. I even searched the AHL for someone of interest, but I don’t think Danny Syvret is the answer. I doubt the Sabres would want to move young Marc-Andre Gragnani from their Portland affiliate.

You wonder if the Bruins would be interested in parting with Edmonton native Johnny Boychuk out of Providence. Boychuk has 41 points in 50 games in the AHL this year. He was a former second rounder of the Flames in 2002, and has played four NHL games with Colorado and one with the Bruins this season.

Clearly these aren’t great options, and might not be better than what the Oilers have, but it doesn’t look like there is a long list of D-men who could fill the gap left by Grebeshkov and Visnovsky.

Gilbert will have to play 27-28 minutes a night now, and Souray might be close to 30 if the Oilers are going to stay competitive. Smid’s play has steadily improved all season, but he will need to be even better now. Staios plays best between 17-20 minutes a night -- anymore and he struggles. He can play a few games in the 22-24 range, but if they ask him to play that for the next three weeks he will inevitably struggle.

Cole banged up

Ales Hemsky opened the door for his teammates in the third period, while Shawn Horcoff was rested to avoid re-aggravating his charley horse, and Erik Cole sat on the bench for the first eleven minutes of the third before leaving early.

I asked MacTavish why Cole was rested, considering he has been in a slump -- pointless in seven games now -- and he said that he is banged up. Of course he wouldn’t elaborate on what the bumps and bruises are, but it’s fair to say he is less than 90 per cent healthy. This might explain why in the past three weeks he has gone back to looking like the Cole of the first twenty games this season. Cole said the rest should do him good the next few days, and feels it is nothing more than the usual wear and tear. But, rarely do guys sit out in “point night” games if they are just a bit banged up.

DAUM NOT A MIRACLE WORKER... YET

Rob Daum didn’t have much time to go over a game plan last night when he stepped behind the bench in Manchester, but he might have given a good opening speech because the Falcons scored :34 seconds into the first and led 2-0 at the 8:34 mark. Unfortunately for Daum and his team, they weren’t able to maintain their strong start and lost 5-2 to Manchester.

Daum’s job becomes even harder with Peckham coming back to Edmonton, and unless Tambellini makes a move before Sunday, he will lose another D-man when the Oilers go to Phoenix.

With the Oilers playing back-to-back in Phoenix and San Jose on the 16th and 17th, they will want an extra D-man there just in case someone gets hurt against the Coyotes. The plan was to bring in Peckham, but now he is coming early, and might be joined by Mathieu Roy or even Sebastion Bisaillon. Either way Daum will be hard pressed to turnaround a Falcons’ team that just doesn’t have that much skill.

Numbers games

With Fernando Pisani set to return, the Oilers will have to make some decisions. When they activate Pisani that gives them 14 forwards, six D-men (with Peckham, Grebeskhov will go on IR), two goalies and JF Jacques on conditioning stint.

If they bring in another D-man via trade or call one up, someone has to be sent down. Liam Reddox doesn’t have to clear waivers and would seem the likely choice. They could try to sneak MacIntyre through waivers, but that would be risky. So expect Reddox to be sent down if they bring in another D-man.

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One of Canada's most versatile sports personalities. Jason hosts The Jason Gregor Show, weekdays from 2 to 6 p.m., on TSN 1260, and he writes a column every Monday in the Edmonton Journal. You can follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/JasonGregor
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#51 Jonathan Willis
February 12 2009, 11:34AM
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@ rindog:

I'm a big fan of running the 4th line out on the powerplay when there's a big lead. Practice can be done during, well, practice. Giving your top players a rest and showing a little class by not insisting on playing each situation like a one-goal game insted of a five-goal game is well worth the possible downside.

I honestly think home coaches should (and they do, IMO) spend use their advantage to counter the other team's moves. Setting the tone is all well and good, but making your decision without regard for the maneuvers of the other team is lunacy - it's like playing chess but deciding on your move before your opponent reveals his, and then refusing to change your move to counter his because you have a plan, dammit!

I don't like sending the 4th line out against the opposition's 1st line in their own end, but against every other line I'm a fan of it. Why not save your scorers for the best offensive situations? I mean sure, you could start Hemsky in your own zone, and then have them grind it out and get the puck up ice, but then on your next (offensive zone faceoff) you have to send out Cole/Stortini/Pouliot, all of whom are far less likely to create a scoring opportunity than Hemsky. Use players to their strengths - not that MacTavish has consistently done that this season, but that should be the goal.

Incidentally, have you ever seen Dustin Penner (Hemsky's LW) enter the opposition zone with speed?

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#52 Jason Gregor
February 12 2009, 11:38AM
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rindog wrote:

I am also not a huge fan of playing our 4th on the PP (even though we were way ahead) when we NEED the practice. Especially when another one of our PP defensemen just went down with an injury. To me, that is the perfect time to try some different things out (in real game situations).

Wow, you will pick at anything. It is called rewarding players, and everyone knows it. You'd think that since you were a 4th liner at best when you played you'd understand this.

We know you don't like MacTavish and you want him fired, but you really weaken your point with asinine comments like "why is our 4th line playing on the PP in a blow out."

Not sure if you noticed but Hemsky was talking on the bench with them before they went out, and when they came back to the bench he was grinning and joking with Reddox. A coach rewards his pluggers with some bonus PP time and they will play harder for him later. It's been used by many coaches over the years.

Like I said earlier, it must be tough for you to be an Oiler fan, because even after their biggest win of the year you aren't happy. I suggest taking down the MacT poster you have at work and stop throwing darts at it for one day Rindog. Trust me you will have lots of losses to critique before the year is over.

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#53 rindog
February 12 2009, 12:01PM
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@ Jonathan Willis:

I understand the 4th line on the PP during blowouts and it does have value (rewards, confidence, etc).

I was simply saying that it would have been a great opportunity to work on things against an actual oppostion. Practice is exactly that - it's practice for real game situations. I'm a teacher and a coach - I realize that everything I work on in practice needs to be applied to game situations before I will know if it plausable or not.

And yes, I have seen Penner go straight to the net and open up space for Hemsky to create a play. Is that bad??

I would rather win the face off in our zone, give it to Hemsky and let him create something against inferior opposition.

That wasn't even really the point I was trying to make. My post was regarding player decisions with a totally fresh bench.

As far as another coach countering the other teams moves. Although I have no stats to back me up (it might be neat for you to look into this), last change is for getting the matchup that "you" want. It shouldn't be countering everything the other team does, otherwise you are letting the opposition dictate the game in your own building. Then again, maybe that is why our home record has been what it is under MacT??

Of course I am not saying that if the other coach throws out a line - you don't protect your players/team (not putting out the 4th line out when Crosby and Malkin are lined up already). But when there our opportunities to make a statement and have the oppostion coach be forced to react - you should do it, shouldn't you?

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#54 Jonathan Willis
February 12 2009, 12:12PM
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rindog wrote:

Although I have no stats to back me up (it might be neat for you to look into this), last change is for getting the matchup that “you” want. It shouldn’t be countering everything the other team does, otherwise you are letting the opposition dictate the game in your own building.

Exactly. So if MacTavish puts his 4th line out there, it's probably because he figures they can handle clearing the zone, and than he can toss out his star guys against the weaker sisters on the other team (because their best line is now heading off the ice).

In a blowout it makes a ton of sense, even if it isn't a strategy I'd be particularly comfortable with in a close game.

And my point with Penner was just that his work in his own zone and the neutral zone is vanilla at best, but he's a star playing in the other team's zone - in other words, putting him in a situation where his lack of foot-speed is exposed (ie playing off the rush) isn't ideal, yes?

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#55 Ender the Dragon
February 12 2009, 12:13PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Incidentally, have you ever seen Dustin Penner (Hemsky’s LW) enter the opposition zone with speed?

The only thing Penner enters with speed is a Burger King.

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#56 rindog
February 12 2009, 12:48PM
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@ Jason Gregor:

I am going to have use your favorite line:

BE BETTER!!!!

Jason Gregor wrote:

We know you don’t like MacTavish and you want him fired, but you really weaken your point with asinine comments like “why is our 4th line playing on the PP in a blow out.”

I never said that we shouldn't play our 4th line on the PP. I said that I am not a big fan of it considering we need to work on our PP (especially in light of the Visnovsky and Grebeshkov injuries). There is a big difference?

If you are going to come after me - atleast come after what I said, not what you think I said (gawd, knows I give you enough fuel).

I do understand the value of rewarding the foot soldiers, etc. I just think that for a team like ours (that struggles with inconsistency on the PP) we should have been trying to work on some things. I am not suggesting that we run up the score or send a message or anything.

I also have no problem with sitting Hemsky and his linemates down in the 3rd to give them a rest, etc.

It is hard being a fan - but not for the reaason you think.

We just beat the Montreal Canadiens 7-2. Is there anything that tells you we will win our next game? What about the way we have played over the last 2 weeks tells you that we are on path to the playoffs?

You criticize fans for calling in when we lose - but ask where they are when we win?

How about a little respect for being consistent? I will congratulate MacT when I think he makes good decisions (ie. Gilbert in the shootout) regardless if we win or lose. I don't need a scoreboard to help me look at our team. I am not a fan who wants to "Fire MacT" just because. I have talked to you about it for years and have always used things like my previous posts (#20, #46)as more examples of why I feel the way I do.

I don't get why that is such a big issue?

I have no guarantess that another guy could come in and do a better job. I do know that we will never know until it happens and I am willing to risk one playoff trip in the last 4+ seasons to find out.

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#57 Colin
February 12 2009, 12:55PM
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Ender the Dragon wrote:

Jonathan Willis wrote: Incidentally, have you ever seen Dustin Penner (Hemsky’s LW) enter the opposition zone with speed? The only thing Penner enters with speed is a Burger King.

You totally owe me a monitor. Hilarious.

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#58 rindog
February 12 2009, 01:04PM
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@ Jonathan Willis:

But clearing the zone and dumping it in just means we have to go and retreive the puck again.

My thoughts are that if our top line gets control of the puck while the other team has their 4th out there - we can mount a quick strike while the other team is trying to react to us.

If the 4th line does as you suggest, getting the puck out of our zone there are no guarantess that we will maintain possession while he are getting our 1st line out (after we have just dumped it in).

If MacT is doubting whether or not we win the face-off (after the glass fix) and have our first line hemmed in by the 4th line pressure - that is a defeatest attiutude in my books.

He should take the opportunity to let our mismatch in skill overtake the opposition and go from there.

I don't have a stat, but I would like to think that the majority of Hemsky's chances are generated off the rush. When he has the puck with speed and enters the zone is when he is the most dangerous (even strength).

MacTavish may think that we are wasting minutes in our own end - I think we are wasting minutes having Hemsky's line try to chase the puck down.

I guess we disagree with this - but if I were a betting man I would think that more coaches put their 4th lines out in the offensive zone as opposed to the defensive zone (as Montreal did on this particular play). The further the puck is from your end, the better the chances of not getting scored on. Afterall, the intent of a 4th line is to create energy and a forecheck, is it not? I am not too sure of any coach that wants to rely on the 4th line to break the puck out of their zone on a regular basis?

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#59 rindog
February 12 2009, 01:08PM
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@ Jonathan Willis: Jonathan Willis wrote:

And my point with Penner was just that his work in his own zone and the neutral zone is vanilla at best, but he’s a star playing in the other team’s zone - in other words, putting him in a situation where his lack of foot-speed is exposed (ie playing off the rush) isn’t ideal, yes?

I don't know about that? Look at the goal Penner scored agaisnt Philly earlier this year or the Hemsky goal at hime against Columbus recently. When Penner gets his body going to the net (off the rush), it does wonders for that line.

I also think Penner is very good in his own zone. His only weakness is not controlling the puckly cleanly on the breakout sometimes. Other that that he is usually in good defensive position. I rarely see him (or his line) getting trapped in their zone for any length of time?

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#60 Jason Gregor
February 12 2009, 01:15PM
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rindog wrote:

I do understand the value of rewarding the foot soldiers, etc. I just think that for a team like ours (that struggles with inconsistency on the PP) we should have been trying to work on some things. I am not suggesting that we run up the score or send a message or anything. I also have no problem with sitting Hemsky and his linemates down in the 3rd to give them a rest, etc.

How can you have both. Horcoff didn't even come out of the dressing room for the 3rd, and Hemsky got maybe one shift. How can you work on your PP if those two aren't there? My point is what do you think they would be working on in that specific PP that they weren't earlier in the game or last week?

rindog wrote:

We just beat the Montreal Canadiens 7-2. Is there anything that tells you we will win our next game? What about the way we have played over the last 2 weeks tells you that we are on path to the playoffs?

Nothing from one game to the next can tell you if a team will win the next game. Sure, teams like Det, SJ and Bos seem to have better odds, but no one can predict how the next game will go based on the last one. This team is inconsistent, like 20 of the other teams in the league, and if I knew what to expect the next game I'd be buying a sports select ticket before every game and be retired in a year...Man that would be awesome.

My point about MacTavish was, complaining that they didn't PRACTICE the PP late in a blow out game is reaching for anything to blame on the coach.

To suggest that you are fair with MacT is laughable. You look for the negative in 98% of the moves he makes, rather than wonder if there is something good that can come from it. That is fine. Like I've said, I understand you can't stand him and think his due date has expired. And the reasons are plentiful to back that up, but your complaining about not practicing the PP late in a game when 2/3 or your forwards weren't even playing isn't valid.

Stating I'm a teacher and they need practice is a stretch. They practice all the time, and one 2 min PP wouldn't make or break their PP for the next game. If anything, watching how simple and matter-of-a-fact the 4th executed the PP might show the first units that sometimes just doing the simple thing will work.

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#61 Manny
February 12 2009, 01:25PM
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First time contributor long time reader...haha

Love this site and the interaction and pictures.

Today though RINDOG you have inspired me to post. I suggest you do some work today, because your posts are long rambles.

I can't believe Gregor hasn't ripped you yet, because your arguments about the PP today are ridiculous. Have you ever coached any level of hockey? Honestly have you? Because if you have, I'd love to coach against you.

I have coached for 12 years, and many of your suggestions are so fly-by-night I'd love to coach against you. And I'm talking AAA hockey not atom or younger where FUN is the most important factor.

I don't think you understand many concepts of the game as much as you think you do. Nor do I, but I have taken many coaching certificates and attended many seminars on coaching and many of your suggestions are the exact opposite of what great hockey minds like Hitchcock, Babcock and others have taught at these seminars.

I appreciate your passion, but your disdain for the coach is blocking your vision, or you just don't understand the game as indepthly as you suggest.

Sorry for the rant fellow Nation readers...

I am Manny and I have a problem...I'm addicted to the Nation..I hit refresh at least 20 times a day. Keep it up.

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#62 SquidRx
February 12 2009, 01:45PM
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Deep Oil wrote:

I am challenging any wire service or beat writer to get a photo with Darryl Katz not BARRY and a player from the oil in Palm Springs……. this owner has not been visible or heard from since August…. strong ownership maybe - but yet to be determined as Acting Owner
Did Darryl Katz kick your dog when you were little? Golly gee whillikers you've got a man-hate on for him.
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#63 raged
February 12 2009, 01:45PM
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Filthy Habs, that looked like a slewfoot on grebs. IMO we dont need to trade for a offensive dman, we still have two pretty good ones in Gilbert and Souray, we just have to survive until Grebs is back. I agree with you Jason regarding Smid`s readiness to step into the top 4, hes our third best dman right now.

Anyone think those losers in Ottawa would trade Spezza straight up for Lubo? I would if I were in Ottawa, considering what they have and what they dont.doesnt matter that hes out for the season, their season is done anyways.

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#64 rindog
February 12 2009, 01:47PM
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@ Jason Gregor:

Horcoff is only one of 6 forwards that are on the PP.

Hemsky wasn't playing becasue of MacT (which is fine). It still doesn't mean that he can't go out and run the PP. Or maybe the 2nd unit gets some experience with Gagner on the point, etc? We just lost another Dman and were going to have to come up with some answers. Of course you can wait until next practice to think about it - that's fine. If it's me - I am thinking I have a great opportunity to see what options I might have.

Like maybe trying Hemsky with Gagner and Rather than waste a game (in which the outcome is not already known) we could have tried some things out - risk free??

They practice agaisnt their own team (and lots of the times the PK they practice agaisnt has their stick held upside down).

I have no idea if the offensive plays my basketball team practice are going to work until I try them against an actual opposition (same theory applies).

I just don't see why it is such a big deal to want them to maximize their game minutes? Especially after the recent efforts against agaisnt Buffalo, Nashville and Detroit?

I wasn't expecting you to get so philosophical on me. I brought up the idea of predicting the next outcome because if anyone that follows the team is happy with where we are at - then they have some issues. I wanted to emphasize that just becasue we won 7-2 does not mean we should plan the parade route.

We should be continually trying to get our game to a level where OUR odds become better....

Jason Gregor wrote:

My point about MacTavish was, complaining that they didn’t PRACTICE the PP late in a blow out game is reaching for anything to blame on the coach.

In my opinion, it's not reaching - it's collecting information about a guy.

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#65 freeze
February 12 2009, 01:54PM
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That play on Grebs was total horsesh*t!!

Will that get reviewed by the league? It was a slewfoot if I've ever seen one. Intent to injure should get a couple games at least.

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#66 raged
February 12 2009, 01:56PM
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@ freeze: Or a throttling from an oiler who has the use of both his ankles

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#67 Dropping Deuces
February 12 2009, 01:57PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

This team is inconsistent, like 20 of the other teams in the league, and if I knew what to expect the next game I’d be buying a sports select ticket before every game and be retired in a year

You're job is what I would consider retirement. Talking oilers most of the day, going to Oiler games and hanging out at local establishments talking oilers. Sounds like what I do on my days off!

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#68 rindog
February 12 2009, 02:03PM
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@ Manny:

Nice post, did you add any thing for debate?

I appreciate your coaching resume - but I am not sure how it applies to me.

I have some ideas and want to debate them. It doesn't make me right or wrong.

It's a hockey forum, meant for debate.

Please point out anywhere that I am being desrespectful or persoanlly attacking anyone?

I have known Gregor since he peed his pants playing street hockey (okay, maybe that was me).

Gregor rips me all the time. I don't take it personally.

If you would care to jump in and debate with us - I would love it. Maybe you can add something that might help me see where MacT is coming from?

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#69 Homie
February 12 2009, 02:36PM
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rindog wrote:

Like maybe trying Hemsky with Gagner and Rather than waste a game (in which the outcome is not already known) we could have tried some things out - risk free??

Letting your 4th liners get some PP time and a few points as a reward is hardly a waste. Any team loves to watch their fouth line guys score. Look at Gregor's point about Hemsky smiling and laughing with the guys. It was a great move by MacT that will do way more for the team than "practising" the PP during the game.

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#70 rindog
February 12 2009, 02:46PM
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@ Homie:

Oh no!!!!

Not you???

I would have expected nothing less...

Again, I never said that having the 4th line on the PP was a waste in a blowout game!!!!

I said we "wasted" an opportunity to try something with actual oppostion defenders rather than our own penalty killers in practice?

You of all people should know what happens when PREPARATION meets OPPORTUNITY.......

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#71 OvenChicken8
February 12 2009, 03:02PM
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@ Dropping Deuces: And we pay to do those things. But unlike us those local celebs get ripped on daily and have to put up with guys like us who are usually in foul moods after a disappointing Eskies/Rush/Oilers game... So as much as we think it is a win win for them, if you don't have the patience that job would bring a whole new world of stress.

- clearly shown by Gregs lack of hair... jk jk.

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#72 Wanye Gretz
February 12 2009, 03:13PM
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@ Manny:

Welcome aboard Manny. Thanks for posting! It wasn't so hard now was it?

rindog wrote:

You of all people should know what happens when PREPARATION meets OPPORTUNITY…….

What? The Oil kick the crap out of the Habs 7-2? Listen dude it's a gigantic win in a season with few bright spots. Let's turn the switch from "pick apart everything" (of which I am a big fan) and set it to "irrational joy" for the time being.

After the next loss we can go tit for tat on 4th line ice time. For today

We dance!

FMNF

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#73 Smokey
February 12 2009, 03:21PM
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Hemsky took a good bump in the second clearing the zone, He sorta skated off the ice slowly like he was trying to show everything is ok. I thought to myself something is not totally right with him. Hopefully his ice time in the third was limited strickly to the fact it was a blowout.

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#74 MarcAndre Pooalot
February 12 2009, 03:27PM
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FYI - Plekanec has been suspended 2 games because of the hit. Whoopdee doo. Will that magically bring us a defenseman? nope.

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#75 rindog
February 12 2009, 03:32PM
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@ Wanye Gretz:

Hey I have been very, very nice when it comes to criticizing the coaching staff on this site.

I simply made a couple of observations at the game last night and wanted to share.

I am just as happy as you to look at the positives.

Example:

With his new found scoring prowess, Stortini might have opened up enough eyes to get a look on the top line. It's too bad he doesn't play the left side - it would be a perfect fit....

***NOTE - I wonder if Stortini is regretting resigning for 3 years in the off season. At the rate he is going he might have been able to get a deal worth $2 million/per???

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#76 Dennis
February 12 2009, 03:36PM
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Gregor: I know you know this;) but the vast majority of the game is still being played at EV so I'd be more worried about how we replace 37's EV min rather than how sickening it will be to see 24 drawing any PP time; because, make no bones about it, it's hard to stomach anytime 24's in the O zone.

I know a lot of folks here don't cotton to the stats revolution but at the end of this post I'll hammer down a link where you can take a look at how valuable guys like 37 and 71 are when it comes to outchancing the opposition at EV.

Anyway, to get back on-point, and as Gregor said, awhile ago it looked like Lowe would be looking to move some of our puck-movers for a forward and now the opposite appears to the case in light of the happenings with both 37 and 71 being out and 34 coming back to prop up our forward depth.

We were gambling against the odds that 24 could jump up and handle top four min and now we're looking for Both 5 and 24 to move into the top for all the while trying to hid a third pairing of 43 and Young Peckham

Did you just throw up as well?

OK, maybe it's not that bad but you know we're in trouble.

Basically, I don't think there's a deal to be made to haul us into the playoffs given the duration of time we'll miss both games.

The only hope is if a couple of forwards totally catch on fire.

http://www.mc79hockey.com/?p=3044#comments

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#77 Colin
February 12 2009, 03:43PM
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I would have rested the guy that just came back from a concussion too, especailly considering he's my best player. Not that I like MacT, but I can agree with that.

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#78 Colin
February 12 2009, 03:51PM
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Dennis wrote:

Basically, I don’t think there’s a deal to be made to haul us into the playoffs given the duration of time we’ll miss both games.

Good.

The best thing for this team would to be to fall out of contention now and be sellers and try to pick up some parts/picks while their parts fetch an inflated price(due to the lack of sellers).

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#79 Oilfan4life
February 12 2009, 04:05PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

rindog wrote: I am also not a huge fan of playing our 4th on the PP (even though we were way ahead) when we NEED the practice. Especially when another one of our PP defensemen just went down with an injury. To me, that is the perfect time to try some different things out (in real game situations). Wow, you will pick at anything. It is called rewarding players, and everyone knows it. You’d think that since you were a 4th liner at best when you played you’d understand this. We know you don’t like MacTavish and you want him fired, but you really weaken your point with asinine comments like “why is our 4th line playing on the PP in a blow out.” Not sure if you noticed but Hemsky was talking on the bench with them before they went out, and when they came back to the bench he was grinning and joking with Reddox. A coach rewards his pluggers with some bonus PP time and they will play harder for him later. It’s been used by many coaches over the years. Like I said earlier, it must be tough for you to be an Oiler fan, because even after their biggest win of the year you aren’t happy. I suggest taking down the MacT poster you have at work and stop throwing darts at it for one day Rindog. Trust me you will have lots of losses to critique before the year is over.

Jason is there any response that you make where you dont go after people personally? Why do you act like such a piece of crap towards people?

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#80 Oilfan4life
February 12 2009, 04:07PM
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SquidRx wrote:

Deep Oil wrote: I am challenging any wire service or beat writer to get a photo with Darryl Katz not BARRY and a player from the oil in Palm Springs……. this owner has not been visible or heard from since August…. strong ownership maybe - but yet to be determined as Acting Owner Did Darryl Katz kick your dog when you were little? Golly gee whillikers you’ve got a man-hate on for him.

Katz has been in his press box for 5 of the games ive been to this year.

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#81 Jason Gregor
February 12 2009, 04:10PM
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Dropping Deuces wrote:

You’re job is what I would consider retirement. Talking oilers most of the day, going to Oiler games and hanging out at local establishments talking oilers. Sounds like what I do on my days off!

I wasn't complaining about my job at all, I love my gig....But if I won the lottery I would still do my radio show, but I would have girls fanning me while on air, have someone type my articles here on the NATION, hire a chef to cook and build a bar where I could party into the wee hours every day...Now that would be retirement...

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#82 SquidRx
February 12 2009, 04:20PM
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@ Oilfan4life: You would think with all his money he would be able to afford a suite and not have to sit way up in the rafters in the press box.

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#83 Word
February 12 2009, 06:53PM
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Just 'cause no one else is backing up ringdog, this needs to be said:

MacT can give powerplay time to pluggers like Powder and the caveman when we're up 7-2, but he better not turnaround and mediasnap on "slumping" players like Dustbin in the next little while without having given them the same opportunity.

From a coaching perspective, rewarding the faithful pluggers is a great move... but it comes with the caveat that the coach can't turn around and beak after the next loss about the sub-par point performance of a guy who actually needed to shake a monkey or two his back but didn't get buttery third period minutes.

It's not right to reward mediocrity simply because it's inexpensive. Whether or not a guy is earning his salary is the GM's job - the only numbers the coach should worry about are ones on the stat sheet.

MacT sometimes acts like he's bargain shopping for discount hookers when it comes to dishing out icetime. He needs to start acting like its his 18th birthday party at a rub-and-tug; let Lowe worry about how much it costs while you just worry about getting the best happy ending.

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#84 Jack "FMNF" Bauer
February 12 2009, 07:24PM
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How come that picture of Greb has him wearing #26?

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#85 Jason Gregor
February 12 2009, 09:01PM
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Oilfan4life wrote:

Jason is there any response that you make where you dont go after people personally? Why do you act like such a piece of crap towards people?

Hey sensitive sally zip it. I know Rindog and since you know nothing of what we talk why don't you just stop whining. Rindog can stand up for himself. And to answer your question, Yes there are lots. Thanks for asking.

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Katz has been in his press box for 5 of the games ive been to this year.

Oh, you have been in the pressbox have you? We are there every game and I've seen him up there once, otherwise he sits in a suite, and he doesn't come to many games according to the Oiler people. He is a very private person and doesn't want to be a public figure. Nothing wrong with that in my mind. Now he will have to make appearances now and then, because he owns the most popular business in town, but I don't expect him to be making comments on a weekly or monthly basis.

Jack "FMNF" Bauer wrote:

How come that picture of Greb has him wearing #26?

Good question. Turns out he wore that number in preseason last year for a game. I don't recall that, but Steve at the Oilers informed me. Steve knows all Oiler data. Maybe Wanye should frame it, it might be worth something if he becomes a Hall of Famer...Hey Wanye??? How would you like that!!!

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#86 Bruno
February 12 2009, 10:02PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Oilfan4life wrote: Jason Gregor wrote:
Oilfan4life wrote: Jason is there any response that you make where you dont go after people personally? Why do you act like such a piece of crap towards people? Sensitive Sally? lol pretty delicate dont ya think?? But funny.....I think..Grow some dingle berries Oilfan4life.. Its all good.
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#87 Bruno
February 12 2009, 10:04PM
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I screwed that one up Man..Is there a spell check??lol

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#88 Mbam99
February 13 2009, 12:22AM
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Deep Oil wrote:

Jonathan Willis wrote: Mike Krushelnyski wrote: @ Deep Oil: Your posts are so much more entertaining now that I imagine they are being shouted at me by a wild-eyed homeless man. That’s the trick! Thank you for helping me realize the top entertainment value of Deep Oil’s posts. Anybody hopping on a private jet to LAX for Staples and then to PHX for Scottsdale golf, Barcelona’s and a hockey game at Glendale ???

Heck ya I am! Flying from Phoenix to LA to watch the Oil game on Saturday, back to Phoenix for the Flamer-Coyote game, then hang around (read GOLF here) until watching Oil play on Monday.

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#89 Bob Cob
February 13 2009, 08:31AM
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I was just reading in the Edmonton Sun this morning that because of the injuries the Oilers played a more "blue collar game" with "simple plays" and they "were just shooting the pucks on net" and they state that "sometimes its ugly but effective". They played this way now because of injuries and they pounded montreal 7-2, it shouldn't take injuries for them to realize they dont need to make the fancy all world plays to win, just play hard nosed simple hockey, get the puck out of your own end, go hit some one and get shots on net. They are not Detroit in terms of skill so stop trying to play like that, be what you are a blue collar hard working hockey team with some skill and grit.

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