Questions That Need Answers: Second Edition

Jason Gregor
February 23 2009 02:59PM

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Based on the amount of questions I got last week, QTNA will now involve questions from the readers as well as my own. If you have any send them to jason@justagame.ca.

The Boston Bruins had ten 20-goal scorers one season, and right now the Oilers don’t have one. Are the Oilers the least talented offensive team in the league?

When you scan rosters around the league, the Oilers’ proven scoring is near the bottom. Right now only Minnesota, the Rangers and the Islanders don’t have a 20-goal man. The Wild’s best player, Marian Gaborik, has been out all year, the Islanders are horrendous and the Rangers have overpriced UFAs taking up lots of ice time.

But after looking down the line-ups of other teams, outside of the Islanders and the Wild, it is fair to say the Oiler forwards have to be considered one of the least offensively productive groups in the league. The Predators have scored 23 fewer goals as a team, so they are in the mix as well, but Arnott and Dumont have produced more goals than any Oiler forward.

The Wild have scored fewer goals as a team, but they don’t get anything from their backend. Their top six scorers are all forwards. At some point, the Oiler forwards have to start to score, otherwise they will only be “paper-prospects.”

When was the last time a non-playoff team had the top two regular season scorers? (Malkin and Crosby) -- Sheldon

Originally people said this never happened, but after some research, in fact it has happened once before.

In 1949:

  • Roy Conacher 1st: 68 pts in 60 games Doug Bentley 2nd: 66 pts in 58 games

Both played for Chicago which finished fifth out of six teams... So they’re the only two that have ever done it, but no tandem has done it since expansion in 1967.

The closest was 1969:

Bobby Hull 2nd and Stan Makita 4th both from Chicago who finished last in 1969.

In 1994 Gretzky finished first in scoring but the Kings missed the playoffs. His teammate Luc Robitaille finished 14th with 96 points.

In 2002 Jarome Iginla led the league in scoring, but the Flames finished 11th in the West. Fellow Flamer Craig Conroy finished 12th that year.

Is Europe or the Leafs the bigger coach killer?

Tom Renney became the second coach to get fired after a loss to the Maple Leafs this season, when he and his assistant Perry Pearn were given pink slips this morning. Michel Therrien got the boot from Pittsburgh after losing to the Leafs.

Losing to the Leafs must be the final measuring stick for Eastern teams.

And all four of the coaches whose teams started this campaign in Europe have now been fired. Renney, Therrien, Craig Hartsburg and Barry Melrose have all been canned after playing two games in Europe. Sorry Oilers fans, the Oil aren’t scheduled to start the season overseas next year.

Who do you think has been the Oilers best draft pick in the last 10 years excluding Hemsky? -- Ken

Great question, and there is no name the jumps out right away. Horcoff was drafted in 1998 so that is outside of the last 10 years.

Within the last 10, I would say Mike Comrie. Whether you like him or not, for a third-round pick he’s been a pretty decent scorer. He’s the only draft pick to have two 30-goal seasons.

The next best would be Jarret Stoll, second round 2002, and Andrew Cogliano who will average 18 goals a year in his first two years. It’s clear they haven’t drafted any top-end talent outside of Hemsky in the last 10 years, or at least any talent that has panned out.

When will Pisani return, and when he does where do you see him playing? -- Alan

Spoke with Pisani this morning and he is scheduled for another MRI on Friday. If the middle of the bone has healed enough he should get clearance for the game on March 3rd against Nashville.

He will slot in with Moreau and Cogliano. Even though Stortini has been one of the hottest Oilers of late, Pisani will slot back into his usual third line RW position. There has been lots of speculation that when he returns the Oilers might move Pouliot. I still doubt MAP could net much in return, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets moved.

What is the Oilers biggest weakness that realistically Tambellini/Lowe can fill before the deadline? -- Chris from Clareview

First off Chris, congrats on admitting you are from the northside. It takes courage.

Denis Grebeshkov has resumed skating and it looks like he might return within a week, so that should allow Tambellini to focus on what they really need: scoring.

Getting a left winger for Hemsky is the most pressing need, but also the hardest. Right now I think they will settle for a productive and consistent second liner. The current “second line” has two players with less than ten goals, Nilsson (7) and Gagner (6). They need secondary scoring just as much as they do a top line LW. And it will be easier to acquire a guy with 17-20 goals than it will getting a proven 30-goal man.

Do guys go to Oscar parties like women attend Super Bowl parties?

Super Bowl and Grey Cup parties have been a staple for many years, and non-sports fans have continually attend them. Lately Oscar parties have become more popular, but I’ve never gone to one and I can’t see why I would in the future.

I watch movies regularly, but I could care less who wins Best Actor or Actress. Did you notice that all the best Actress nominees came from “chick flick” type of films? The only reason most guys watch is to see the women’s attire. Outside of best picture, director, actor, actress and the supporting actor or actress, does anyone really care about best costume design?

You will never catch me attending an Oscar party.

Why do guys change their facebook relationship status from single to “it’s complicated” and vice versa?

I know this has nothing to do with sports, but it’s my biggest pet peeve. Girls do this because their friends will comment with remarks like “keep your head up,” or “It’s his loss.” I can understand that they are looking for comfort. But guys? Do you actually think your buddy is going to write anything consoling or that we are even interested?

My buddy actually announced his engagement was off via his relationship status last week. He went from engaged to single, and of course ten different girls chimed in with some comment designed to cheer him up. No guys replied, and why would we?

First off, if my fiancé dumped me or me her, I don’t think I’d be posting it on Facebook a day after it happened. Seriously guys, I think I speak for other guys when I say stop posting that garbage. Sure, if she left you for another guy we feel your pain, and will promise to get you bombed the next day. Hell, we will sacrifice a head-pounding, barf-at-lunch hangover on Tuesday if that’s what it takes to help you out.

But expecting some sort of pat-on-the-back comment on Facebook is out of the question. FIGURE IT OUT.

Have you actually met Wanye Gretz and do you know if he is single? I think he is so funny and I bet he is hot. -- Allison

For the record I didn’t make up this question. I replied to Allison and she confirmed it was for real. I included this query for a few reasons. It shows the major difference between guys and girls. She admits she hasn’t seen Wanye and based his hotness on his ramblings, so she is going on wit and personality. Guys, we are shallow. We go for looks first, second and third.

I have met Wanye a few times, and plead the fifth regarding his looks. I can admit that Brad Pitt is hot, it’s not hard to see that, but in most cases I think guys have no clue if another guy is hot. Wanye is currently looking, but for what exactly I’m not sure.

But Allison there is one rule. I would never set up a buddy without seeing a picture of the girl that wants to meet him, and most guys won’t consider it without seeing the potential prospect. So if you or any other ladies are interested in Wanye include a picture in your email. I will gladly pass those to Sir WG.

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One of Canada's most versatile sports personalities. Jason hosts The Jason Gregor Show, weekdays from 2 to 6 p.m., on TSN 1260, and he writes a column every Monday in the Edmonton Journal. You can follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/JasonGregor
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#51 yo
February 23 2009, 10:21PM
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Let's face it there is going to be lots of 'splainin' to be done with contracts like Horcoff's multiplying before our very eyes to something over 6 mil.with his lame-ass production. If Horc thinks the fans have not been in his corner up to now what happens when he is getting the really big bucks next year and mails it in. He's got the big contract but if he doesn't produce I know Oiler fans are going to eat his lunch. He's never been a consensus favourite here. He's got a long way to go in my opinion to prove he's worth it. Some of the other KLowe overpaid deals like Pisani have a year to go I think. It's going to be a year or two before we can get clear of some of these tweener players with the not-so-tweener contracts.

MacT. just has to go before they trade away any more players who can be redeemed and fit within a properly coached system. I never thought KLowe and MacT could ever be anything but good for the team, organization and everything. Man was I wrong!!

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#52 Bruno
February 23 2009, 10:40PM
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W.T. wrote:

W.T. hears Atlanta and Oilers are deep in talks. Horcoff,Cole and Smid for Kovalchuk and Marty R. Marty R was compared to Joe Sakic by MacT and he will be first line center.

Man ....Is all that sour gas that that is commming out of your mouth giving you memmory loss. You burped that out yesterday and when you were asked the source you went away.It is one thing to listen to your pollution but REPEAT POLLUTION!!! pretty brutal. W-aste of T-ime..or sorry W.T.

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#53 Facebooked
February 23 2009, 11:26PM
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To set the record straight, facebook announces that stuff, whether you want it to or not (unless there's some setting I haven't heard of) Take it from me, just never touch that relationship button in the first place. On the plus side, the women do come out of the woodwork...

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#54 TSN13
February 23 2009, 11:37PM
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Who's the worst G.M ? 1) Bryan Murry...amongst his other great deals the last one is the best. Trading for Comrie, giving up a first round pick ) and then going to sell, rebuild mode.

2) Oilers Management(LOWE) after having a successful run at the end of last year a mirror to Chicago, and yes the edm. media mirrored them. Chicago realizes at the begging of the year that a coaching change needed to be made. While the Oilers after thier 20, 40, games are still assessing and now have no identity. but they did get rid of the "3 headed monster" now no rest for Roli.

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#55 TSN13
February 23 2009, 11:40PM
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Bruno wrote:

W.T. wrote: W.T. hears Atlanta and Oilers are deep in talks. Horcoff,Cole and Smid for Kovalchuk and Marty R. Marty R was compared to Joe Sakic by MacT and he will be first line center. Man ….Is all that sour gas that that is commming out of your mouth giving you memmory loss. You burped that out yesterday and when you were asked the source you went away.It is one thing to listen to your pollution but REPEAT POLLUTION!!! pretty brutal. W-aste of T-ime..or sorry W.T.

Man even I got that sarcasm

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#56 TSN13
February 23 2009, 11:51PM
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You Oiler fans need to realize that as long as Lowe is in charge you will have a 7-13 team. After a win your all happy like you won the cup, CLAP CLAP , one game at a time will be the new moto. or some 80's song that the Regime thinks of. These players if moved at the deadline, excluding Cole, a different coach can get way more out of this team, Hemsky has stalled in this enviroment, Gagner has has reversed, Cole... poor guy, You know his story, And where is this "center from a different organization which they have good luck in making a true NHL center?...Oilers words about Brule. Lowe is the problem all regins must be given to Tambo, and that includes axing MacT Now, that way the new team can go into next season know what to expect. We are not going to do anything this year at least let it be a good sacrifice for next year!

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#57 Bruno
February 24 2009, 06:11AM
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TSN13 wrote:

You Oiler fans need to realize that as long as Lowe is in charge you will have a 7-13 team. After a win your all happy like you won the cup, CLAP CLAP , one game at a time will be the new moto. or some 80’s song that the Regime thinks of. These players if moved at the deadline, excluding Cole, a different coach can get way more out of this team, Hemsky has stalled in this enviroment, Gagner has has reversed, Cole… poor guy, You know his story, And where is this “center from a different organization which they have good luck in making a true NHL center?…Oilers words about Brule. Lowe is the problem all regins must be given to Tambo, and that includes axing MacT Now, that way the new team can go into next season know what to expect. We are not going to do anything this year at least let it be a good sacrifice for next year!

Just by you sayin"you oilerfans" with a combined name of TSN13 gives me a vision of your leaf jersey.Or your undercover flames jersey. So your knowledge is limited. If you think a G.M. like tambo is going to play as Lowes puppet I dont think your giving Tambo enough credit. Im sure he has control of what he wants to do,But might have trouble doing it in this "New N.H.L" And , as much as change would be apreciated here by many fans I dont think that making that change in the middle of a playoff hunt would not be a smart decision. And when Fans or in your case Non-Fans say we should fire the coach , follow that up with a sollution and a coach that You believe would work here because pointing out problems are easy.

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#58 Bruthah
February 24 2009, 08:42AM
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chicksdigoil wrote:

You guys are great, and thankfully you haven’t mocked the few women on here…Thanks…

We're all skeptics and figure it's actually JeanShorts or BaggedMilk with a fake name.

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#59 W.T.
February 24 2009, 08:46AM
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W.T. continues to appreciate the educated fan speaking their mind. TSN 13 appears to have it right according to W.T.. Ottawa and Edmonton, sports reporters get the giggles when these two teams are mentioned.

W.T. is set to watch the game on his SlingBox tonight. Should be Oiler hockey as Tampa Bay plays a very high tempo game.

W.T. is wondering who the Oiler goalie for next year and the year after is going to be. Roli has moved his family back East last year, Oil traded away probably their best goalie to Pitt. as the organization had no faith in him, and JDD is ready to be a starting goalie night in and night out? Nice work KLowe, you really thought that out didn't you?

W.T. wishes nothing but the best for Bruno as by the comments he posts, he is going to need all the help he can get. May your higher power that you believe in helps you. Hope you don't miss too many Sunday's

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#60 W.T.
February 24 2009, 09:00AM
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W.T is wondering where he put his medication.

W.T. is lonely. W.T. wishes he had a friend.

W.T. thinks that if he talks on here and people say something back, that will be like having a friend. W.T. doesn't mind if they say bad stuff. W.T. thinks negative attention is way better than no attention. W.T. likes to pretend to be smart. Then W.T. can have smart friends.

W.T. is going to go write his name on his own picture a hundred times now and hang it next to all the rest of them in his bedroom.

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#61 Mike Krushelnyski
February 24 2009, 09:01AM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Trading Roloson now means, that either Deslauriers become the guy or they sign a goalie. I think Roloson/JDD combo is a safer bet, than Deslauriers/???.

Isn't Roloson/Deslauriers still an option for next year even if they do trade him, or does dealing Roli at the deadline mean burning bridges in terms of signing hima s a UFA?

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#62 Cam
February 24 2009, 09:13AM
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Chris wrote:

APE - FMNF wrote: What about Cogliano? Are you kidding? 29 ponts in 59 games. (Tied for 178th in the league) This is NOT top end talent. Cogliano is a small, soft, player with hands of stone… If he was a top end player… wouldn’t he be playing with Hemsky?

I think that what is meant by top end talent is a top six forward, and I think Cogliano will be a 50-60 pt kind of guy for his career so that qualifies. He plays hard and makes it exciting with his speed.

I agree with you that he is not a first line kind of guy. He doesn't have hands of stone, though. He is no Hemsky, but he's good for twenty a year. That particular moniker (stone hands) once applied to Buchberger, and if I had to apply it to a current Oiler I would probably pick Strudwick.

There is an even bigger problem in Oil Country: Nilsson and Gagner. Everyone has been so busy ripping on Horcoff that they have failed to notice that Horc has more points than Gagner and Nilsson combined. When 2/3rds of your second line is on pace for a ten goal season you know your franchise is going nowhere. Fancy stick tricks after practice don’t qualify as high skill, or talent, if you can’t do sh!t during a game! Hemsky, the D, and an aging goalie will only carry this team so far.

I agree with you. I think Horcoff has been playing much better the last 30 games or so. If he keeps it up the contract doesn't look sooo bad.

On the other hand, what is with Gagner. He is always getting pushed off the puck like a ragdoll. He is not a goal scorer despite his stickhandling ability, but if he can't hang on to the puck he can't be a playmaker either. I think he has the skill to be an 80 pt guy (he got 49 at the age of eighteen), but he has to get stronger in the body.

And Nilsson... the skill is there and when he decides to play he is awesome to watch, just like Penner. We jsut need to keep them motivated somehow, and I don't have an answer for that.

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#63 Chris
February 24 2009, 09:22AM
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Cam wrote:

And Nilsson… the skill is there and when he decides to play he is awesome to watch,

This sounds like Torres. Only Torres actually put up numbers when he was playing well... Nilsson hasn't put up numbers at all... Stortini is closing in!

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#64 BruMAN
February 24 2009, 09:48AM
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W.T. wrote:

W.T. wishes nothing but the best for Bruno as by the comments he posts, he is going to need all the help he can get. May your higher power that you believe in helps you. Hope you don’t miss too many Sunday’s

And best wishes to you and please Sir or Miss take your Meds they will help you .And put your outside voice away. We should not hear that.......Drive safe......

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#65 Jason Gregor
February 24 2009, 09:59AM
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Facebooked wrote:

To set the record straight, facebook announces that stuff

No they don't. You choose your own relationship status. Don't pretend that it changed itself. Sorry dude, that just isn't true. Mike Krushelnyski wrote:

Isn’t Roloson/Deslauriers still an option for next year even if they do trade him, or does dealing Roli at the deadline mean burning bridges in terms of signing hima s a UFA?

They could be like the St. Louis Blues and trade a guy and then resign him in the summer. I don't think it would mean burning a bridge at all. It is an interesting idea, but if they trade Roloson, to me that shows they are officially sellers, and that means the beginning of the end for their coach. I just can't see that happening in this fashion. That would go against everything the organization has done in the past...I.E. Loyalty.

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#66 I'm a Scientist!
February 24 2009, 10:01AM
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Here's a question that needs to be answered: Are there any line combinations that MacT has NOT pulled out this year? Maybe we should explore those.

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#67 I'm a Scientist!
February 24 2009, 10:08AM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

That would go against everything the organization has done in the past…I.E. Loyalty.

Umm....Ryan Smyth?

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#68 APE - FMNF
February 24 2009, 10:12AM
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@ Cam: So because our sophmores are struggling that means they don't have talent? C'mon man.

And about Cogs not playing with Hemsky, do you actually think the would play him or Gagner over Horcoff? I sure don't. Not for the time being anyway.

Not every player is able to step into the league and put up numbers like Ovy or Sid but that doesn't mean they aren't top end talent.

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#69 TSN13
February 24 2009, 10:12AM
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@Jason

was it you that asked the question to MacT with inaccurate stats?

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#70 Harlie Chuddy
February 24 2009, 10:30AM
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Now this is commitment! "we feel your pain, and will promise to get you bombed the next day. Hell, we will sacrifice a head-pounding, barf-at-lunch hangover on Tuesday if that’s what it takes to help you out."

And here I thought I was the only one who wakes up the next day with the migraine like headache, followed by the nauseau, which leads to the inevitable stomach dumping to the point where yellow stuff (i've always assumed it was stomach acid) is all that is left to be thrown up, which at the end, leaves me in a contorted cold sweaty mess on my bathroom floor. From there I hike back to bed, with a cold-wet cloth to drape over my eyes and forehead, while I try to fall asleep while technicolor spirals appear before my closed eyes which then lead me to flashback snippets (or are they dreams/nightmares?) of what may or may not have happened the night before.

So yeah, if I'm goin on a banger to help out a depressed buddy then that guy better know damn well that I FEEL HIS PAIN!

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#71 Mike Krushelnyski
February 24 2009, 10:31AM
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Jason Gregor wrote: It is an interesting idea, but if they trade Roloson, to me that shows they are officially sellers, and that means the beginning of the end for their coach. I just can’t see that happening in this fashion. That would go against everything the organization has done in the past…I.E. Loyalty.

Ah yes, the famous loyalty to anyone with friends in high places that has brought so much success over the last decade. I know you're not trying to justify it, you're just telling how it will go down - and now that I think about it you're probably right. We'll hang on to our most valuable assets and get nothing in return for them just so Lowe can be really sure that he has no choice but to fire his buddy. I guess this was MacT's first season with any accountability - the first 8 were just practice.

The best part is when we do miss the playoffs and fail to get any help for the future, there will be no mea culpa from the orginization. The blatant nepotism that is running this team into the ground will be answered with the standard "F*ck you, we're the only game in town. Don't like it? Go watch the Drillers." Remember when you said we would compete for the division this year? Oh you meant we would be mediocre at best and that season ticket prices would go up again? Sorry, our mistake.

Loyalty? Sure, for some. Loyalty to the fans? Hell no.

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#72 Peter Pan
February 24 2009, 10:38AM
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He asked if MacT could take his shirt off during the interview.

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#73 Homie
February 24 2009, 11:15AM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

They could be like the St. Louis Blues and trade a guy and then resign him in the summer. I don’t think it would mean burning a bridge at all. It is an interesting idea, but if they trade Roloson, to me that shows they are officially sellers, and that means the beginning of the end for their coach. I just can’t see that happening in this fashion. That would go against everything the organization has done in the past…I.E. Loyalty.

What about Roloson and Cole (+pick or prospect) to a playoff-ish team for a young or average goaltender and a young top six forward? I'm thinking maybe Philly, Sabres, Montreal or Pittsburgh - someone on the cusp of the playoffs or making a push since they are both UFAs this summer. The drop off from Roli to a Halak or a Biron type isn't that much (or anything) and could be worth it if you can get someone back who can score 20 goals. The Oil still have a longer term issue to deal with in net, but they are going to have that anyway, even if they do sign Roli this summer. I'm not sold at all on JDD and need to see Dubnyk before I pass judgment there.

My hope is the Oiler management takes advantage of the panic at the deadline and make some moves that help in the medium and long term, while other teams are focused on the short term.

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#74 Chris
February 24 2009, 11:24AM
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Sam gagner is 285th overall and 224th in scoring amoung forwards. Nilsson is is 252nd and 197th amoung forwards. (Top 6 forwards X 30 teams= 180) These guys must be the absolute bottom producing top 6 forwards to have played 50 or so games. Top End Talent? The debate should be centered around whether or not these guys are the WORST forwards in the NHL to be put in a scoring role!

Is Kyle Brodziak Top End Talent? He's bigger. He wins faceoffs. Kyle skates well, and has similar point totals despite more limited ice time. I don't consider Kyle to be "top end", but it's a lot easier to make a case that he is compared to the other two. Cam wrote:

I think that what is meant by top end talent is a top six forward, and I think Cogliano will be a 50-60 pt kind of guy for his career so that qualifies

Cogliano is not a top six forward even on this desperate lowly Oilers roster. Radek Dvorak had speed to burn and put up numbers similar to Cogliano while in Oilers Silks... Was he your idea of top end talent? We are overvaluing our assets. Other GM's may be interested in guys like Cogs, or Gags... but I bet they aren't offering much of a return.

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#75 oilfan4life
February 24 2009, 11:28AM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

No they don’t. You choose your own relationship status. Don’t pretend that it changed itself. Sorry dude, that just isn’t true.

Yes dude that is true. Like if your status is "married" and your spouses status is "married". Well if she takes her status from "married" to "single", your status is automatically set to "single"

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#76 Mike Krushelnyski
February 24 2009, 11:43AM
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@ oilfan4life:

No, it will still say "married" just not "married to X"

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#77 APE - FMNF
February 24 2009, 11:43AM
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@ Chris: Ok you are right. Every player in the NHL should be living up his potential every single night or else they suck. I get it.

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#78 Harlie Chuddy
February 24 2009, 11:44AM
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I may be a total idiot saying this but I'm gonna mention it anyways. What if we let Erik Cole go at the deadline (for whatever we can get back) and we traded Visnovsky for Ryan Smyth? Lubo and Smyth will make approx. the same over the next few years. You get a natural left winger to go on a line with Hemmer and Horcs and they have had chemistry in the past, plus it feeds into the org's need for nepotism.

Cole UFA 4 Million Visnovsky 7 next year, 6 year after, 5 year after, 3 year after that

Smyth 6.5 next year, 5.5 year after, 4.5 year after that

This would put Penner on the second line with the kids. I'd ship out one of the kids at the deadline or sometime this or next year.

3rd line is solid with Pisani. Moreau and Brodz. Leaving the 4th for Storts and the assorted call up filler.

In regards to losing Vis on the back end, we will still have Souray, Gilbert, Staios and Peckman. We would now have money to sign Grebs & Smid or land another decent top 4 defenseman especially if we move one of the kids.

I'm thinking Nilsson would be the natural move as he is making 2 million next year compared to Cogs & Gags at 0.85 million and 0.95 million respectively.

Here's a points breakdown... 03/04 05/06 06/07 07/08 08/09 Horc - 40 73 51 50 41 Hem - 34 77 53 71 51 Penr - 7 (19g) 45 47 29 Smyt- 61 66 68 37 49 Visn - 29 67 58 41 31 Gilb - 33 34 Greb - 18 25

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#79 Souby
February 24 2009, 11:46AM
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@ Robin B: Exactly. The Oilers got burned years ago when they did not trade Cujo when they had the chance and got nothing in return.

Ideally, you do not want to trade a player that can help you in the playoffs, but if you are on the bubble like the Oilers are (same as every other year), I think it makes sense to get something in return that will help the club down the road. Or, package Cole and another player and/or young prospect(s) and/or pick(s) to get a scorer that will help them now.

Do something....anything, but don't let him walk for nothing!

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#80 Chris
February 24 2009, 12:12PM
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@ APE - FMNF:

What is this "every night" thing? I gave them 50 games to show me somthing sans criticism. Is 10 years a more acceptable time frame? Or maybe Tambellini needs to re-evaluate what these guys truly bring to this organization. Fact is, Nilsson, Cogliano, and Gagner are small, soft, minus players whose production levels are easily replaced. They don't win faceoffs, they don't compete consistantly, or bring any noticble dimension to their game. The team is in another losing streak; Gagner is pointless again for as long as I can remember; and yet we celebrate Gagners "intensity" when he gets beat up! It's embarrassing. Gagner is so easily moved off the puck that he will not be a legitimate playmaker for years and years... and face it: he doesn't have a high end NHL shot! Please guys show me anything to make me believe that last years stretch run drive was something more than a fluke!

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#81 Harlie Chuddy
February 24 2009, 01:13PM
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oilgirl wrote:

jeanshorts….i’d do ya, you’re almost as funny as WG

Bend over and get ready for a peggin' JS.

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#82 APE - FMNF
February 24 2009, 01:25PM
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@ Chris: All I mean is you don't give up on first round picks because they are struggling at age 19.

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February 24 2009, 01:26PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Facebooked wrote:

To set the record straight, facebook announces that stuff No they don’t. You choose your own relationship status. Don’t pretend that it changed itself. Sorry dude, that just isn’t true. ---------

Yeah, if you touch that button, facebook announces it, for sure.

What I'm saying is: don't touch that button.

It's not like typing in your status for everyone to hear about - that you do on purpose. Give us non-tech guys a break, Gregor. Geez.

But the point still stands: lots of women result- that sort of makes up for the jeers of your buddies.

:P

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#84 Chris
February 24 2009, 01:58PM
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@ APE - FMNF:

APE - FMNF wrote:

All I mean is you don’t give up on first round picks because they are struggling at age 19.

I've covered this. Read Comment #49. Chris wrote:

Oh… and I don’t want to hear about how young Nilsson and Gagner are! This is the big league. If you are not ready to produce here; you shouldn’t be here.

I never said "give up" on Gagner. Sam is a prospect who is being mis-managed. The Oilers shouldn't be playing Gagner in such an important role. (Or at all) We need more than 6 goals every 53 games from a guy getting 15+ sheltered minutes a night. The Oilers are killing Gagner the same way Columbus killed Brule... and killing our playoff chances at the same time!

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#85 APE - FMNF
February 24 2009, 02:48PM
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@ Chris: I'll agree to that but they can't send Gagner down to the AHL if I recall so what do they do with him? It's no good for him to play on any line past the second not too mention he is too small and weak at this point to play in that role. So really the only choice they have is to let him battle and gain experience from it.

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#86 Chris
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@ APE - FMNF: This all goes back to the stupidity of letting Smyth go and the resulting 20 game slide. Remember the desperation of that offseason? Nylander, The RFA offer sheets, and the decision to risk the development of your best teenage prospect by pushing him into NHL action prematurly?... You're right. There is no good way to handle Sam now. Mistakes have been made... It's better luck than good management that Gagner hasn't been seriously injured. As it stands, Gagner has lost all confidence in his shot. He doesn't thread the needle anymore with his passing for fear of dreaded turnovers... And he is too damn young to be here or even be sent down! Is Sam "Top End" talent? I don't know anymore. Oilers managemnt rarly drafts the best available prospect... And they certainly aren't adept at developing them either!

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#87 APE - FMNF
February 24 2009, 04:53PM
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Well I agree with everything you've said now. He has a good head on his shoulders I hope he can bounce back.

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#88 Chicksdigoil
February 24 2009, 09:08PM
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Bruthah wrote:

We’re all skeptics and figure it’s actually JeanShorts or BaggedMilk with a fake name.

I am 100% female...The only thing I have in common with those two is that all three of us pee sitting down. It isn't just guys who read this...sorry if we are invading you realm, but some girls do like the Oil.

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#89 Dennis
February 24 2009, 10:38PM
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Facebook is for people who need validation.

Here's the way it works.

I'll put pictures up of my wife, kids and house and you'll tell me how nice it all looks. Then I'll comment likewise on your pictures and we'll all go to bed happy.

It's Warholian and it's Reality Internet for those that don't get to go on reality TV.

other than that, it's great!

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#90 Facebooked
February 25 2009, 02:11AM
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And opining on it on a comment board isn't...

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#91 Dennis
February 25 2009, 12:50PM
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not when you're not comparing pictures and inane daily activities, no.:)

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#92 Facebooked
February 25 2009, 03:41PM
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Whatever gets you through the night...

:)

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