News & Notes: The Game Last Night And More

Jonathan Willis
March 11 2009 09:47AM

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My thoughts on last night’s game, and some news and notes from elsewhere.

On Last Night’s Game

So I went over to a buddy’s place and watched the Oilers play Montreal on RDS last night. It was a good game, and it felt to me like they played better than they had in many of their recent wins (including the Saturday game against Toronto). Some scattered thoughts from the game:

The fourth line looked awful. Liam Reddox had an ugly giveaway within the first ten minutes, and things just got worse after that. Stortini, Brodziak and Reddox were penned in their own end on at least three different shifts, and looked very much like the weakest of the Oilers’ four lines.

The first line wasn’t all that good, either. Maybe I’m biased because my expectations are so low, but Ales Kotalik looks not only like he isn’t a fit skill-wise, but also speed-wise. I’d put money on Dustin Penner in a foot race between the two, at least based on the last two nights. Hemsky picked up a point, but he’s slumping right now and neither he nor Shawn Horcoff looked great last night.

On the bright side, the second line was excellent. Sam Gagner had a couple of funny moments last night, but he scored a garbage goal and was generally creative. Marc Pouliot had a tremendous game, in my opinion, showing some moxie (Gagner wouldn’t have scored if Pouliot hadn’t been in there taking the punishment and poking the puck free, plus he went after Stewart after the latter clocked him to end the second) and some skill too. I’m not convinced that Pouliot’s role in the NHL is going to be on a scoring line, but he was a good fit last night. Robert Nilsson looked okay – he made one big hit in his own end and showed flashes of skill but seemed tentative to my eye.

Andrew Cogliano was buzzing all night and was a constant threat. The buddy I watched the game with is a Canadiens fan (why else would he have RDS), and Cogliano was the player that made him nervous.

Speaking of my friend, about half way through the second he started predicting what Steve Staios would do as he approached the puck. He was right every time, and every time he said something to the effect of “around the boards” or “chips it out”. I’ll say this for Staios – he’s consistent.

And since I’m talking about predictable defensemen, what an awful game for Jason Strudwick. He looked a step behind for most of the night, and on the second Montreal goal he was embarrassed by Mathieu Dandeneault (of all people). He ran out to challenge Dandeneault and blew by him, leaving two Canadiens at the right side of the Oilers’ net. Ladislav Smid had to decide whether to drop to the side of the net or hold the slot, and elected to stay in the slot (probably the right decision, given the Montreal player not far behind him), which allowed the Canadiens to bang in a goal from the right side.

Chorney to Manitoba?

The Manitoba Moose are looking for a puck-moving defenseman for their playoff run, and it’s possible that GM Craig Heisinger is considering Oilers’ prospect Taylor Chorney. Chorney’s been far better over the last half of this season, and if the Moose were interested I think the Oilers should consider loaning him there. Playoff experience, even AHL playoff experience, will only serve him in the long run.

Oilers Apologize To Springfield

Kevin Prendergast, who seems to be the Oilers’ point man on all things AHL, issued an apology to fans of the Springfield Falcons yesterday:

“We are in the business of winning hockey games and we failed miserably in Springfield this season. On behalf of the Oilers we apologize to the fans in Springfield who have supported this team through a very difficult year. We will begin plans immediately in addressing the problems on the ice this season and promise that we will do everything we can to put a more competitive and winning team on the ice next year.”

Next season will be the third and final year of the affiliation agreement between Springfield and Edmonton. Looks like any Oklahoma City plans will need to wait another season.

Ever Curious How Tough Minor-League Defensemen Are?

Here’s a scary story about Fort St. John Flyers defenseman Kip Noble, courtesy of energeticcity.ca:

Noble took a big hit from Spirit River's Mike Lefley, in the dying seconds of the third period, of Saturday night's game four. The game went into overtime, where it was won by the Flyers (Jeff Shipton with the winner), giving FSJ a 3-1 series lead. The hit happened when the Rangers dumped the puck out of their zone, after tying the game up 3-3. Noble raced back to retrieve the puck, after icing was waved off by the officials. He was hit into the end-boards, and lay on the ice for several minutes before skating off on his own steam.

So that doesn’t sound so bad – he skated off under his own power, right? Here’s the rest:

He was taken to hospital, where he remains, as of Monday morning, according to GM Rob Larson. Noble is suffering from a separated shoulder, a broken rib, and a collapsed lung.

Noble had a nice career over in Britain and was the MVP of not only the Flyers but the entire league (the player he beat out for the award, by a single point, was Mike Lefley). He also won his seventh best defenseman award this year, and if he’s injured it will seriously hurt their chances of qualifying for the Allan Cup, which replaced the Stanley Cup as the pinnacle of senior amateur hockey achievement in 1909 after the Stanley Cup Championship became a professional competition.

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#1 topshelf
March 11 2009, 09:55AM
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It's funny that you mention that about Staois, I was doing the same thing last night. I actually text my buddy and told him I think Staois hates making tape to tape passes.

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#2 topshelf
March 11 2009, 09:56AM
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Now if only I could learn to spell Staios right...

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#3 CurtisS
March 11 2009, 10:07AM
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Mact lost us that win able game.

3 wins in last 10 games is not good enough!

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#4 Archaeologuy
March 11 2009, 10:07AM
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These last 3-4 games have only solidified how useless Horcoff has become. He might as well take the faceoff and then skate off the ice. How many chances did Horc have last game? And the game before that, and so on. I counted at least 4 the other night where the puck drifts by the guy in front of a wide open net. And if that were all then i could live with that, but it seems like he doesnt physically engage anymore. I cant recall him fighting for a puck in the corner or making a hit all season.

Who cares how many faceoffs he wins, maybe the top line only gets 3 grade A chances a night instead of 4. As long as 1 goes in, I dont care.

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#5 Harlie Chuddy
March 11 2009, 10:11AM
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Dustin Penner meet Kip Noble. Nuff' said.

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#6 Tyler
March 11 2009, 10:14AM
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Ah the NPHL. I can't tell you how depressed I am that Noble just won his seventh best defenceman award because I remember when he came back to DC from Britain and it seems like just yesterday. Love the names on Spirit River too - I assume that Mike Lefley is related to a guy I played with/against.

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#7 Jonathan Willis
March 11 2009, 10:18AM
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@ Tyler:

Noble's a real joy to watch - he's the smallest guy out there, but he probably plays 30 minutes a night (I saw a Fort St. John - Horse River game a year or two back where he played 45 minutes in a 60 minute game). Incredible player. More points than almost every forward in the league too.

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#8 Jonathan Willis
March 11 2009, 10:21AM
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Incidentally, I can't find al ink or I would have included this Rob Daum quote in the article above, taken after a recent 2-1 loss:

"There were some undisciplined penalties and that gave us less chance to generate the minimal offense that we generate at the best of times."

h/t to Mr. Debakey over at the Lowetide game thread.

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#9 Mike L
March 11 2009, 10:27AM
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And since I’m talking about predictable defensemen, what an awful game for Jason Strudwick. He looked a step behind for most of the night, and on the second Montreal goal he was embarrassed by Mathieu Dandeneault (of all people). He ran out to challenge Dandeneault and blew by him, leaving two Canadiens at the right side of the Oilers’ net. Ladislav Smid had to decide whether to drop to the side of the net or hold the slot, and elected to stay in the slot (probably the right decision, given the Montreal player not far behind him), which allowed the Canadiens to bang in a goal from the right side.

Jonathon,

I love how you point out plays where a guy gets beat like it means he is brutal. Players on both teams get beat, if they never did there would be no scoring chances.

That second goal, Dandenault fanned on it and it went to Metropolit. Did you think that was an actual pass man? It is interesting how you never point out a good play or game Strudwick has, yet you will defend Penner to the death or Pouliot because you love him.

Try to have some honest commentary now and then. Ripping on Staios and Strudwick gets boring. Strudwick adds way more to the team than you imagine, but since it isn't in the stats, which is all you understand, then you don't get it. Too bad really.

Broken plays happen in hockey. Strudwick got beat, shocking, it happens in the game. And then Montreal got lucky on a fanned shot/pass. Not all of us are negative all the time.

And minor-league D-men don't play for the Allan Cup. It is Senior AAA hockey. Minor league is ECHL and AHL. Go Eagles by the way. Bentley and them are tied at 1-1 in their best of seven. Hopefully Noble has a full recovery.

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#10 Jonathan Willis
March 11 2009, 10:30AM
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Mike L wrote:

And minor-league D-men don’t play for the Allan Cup. It is Senior AAA hockey. Minor league is ECHL and AHL. Go Eagles by the way. Bentley and them are tied at 1-1 in their best of seven. Hopefully Noble has a full recovery.

Yeah, but "Ever Wonder How Tough Senior AAA Defensemen Are" just doesn't have the same ring.

I do realize they're amateur players, but Noble was a minor-league defenseman for a long time before he jumped to AAA, so I'm going to give myself a pass here.

Then again, I am biased ;)

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#11 CurtisS
March 11 2009, 10:31AM
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I think Brownlee needs another Deep Thoughts Post

3 Wins in last 10 games. I think its time.

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#12 Jonathan Willis
March 11 2009, 10:32AM
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Mike L wrote:

Broken plays happen in hockey. Strudwick got beat, shocking, it happens in the game. And then Montreal got lucky on a fanned shot/pass. Not all of us are negative all the time.

Mostly I was using it as an example - there were a half-dozen times last night where Strudwick was brutal. He's had good games (and I've commented on them) but last night was not one of them.

I could have pointed to his ugly "let's clear the puck up the middle" moment on the PK in the third, but the goal sticks out in everybody's minds more.

It was a bad game for Strudwick - calling it anything else would be dishonest.

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#13 Jonathan Willis
March 11 2009, 10:34AM
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Mike L wrote:

Try to have some honest commentary now and then. Ripping on Staios and Strudwick gets boring. Strudwick adds way more to the team than you imagine, but since it isn’t in the stats, which is all you understand, then you don’t get it.

Just for the record: Outside of guys who actually spend time in the dressing room, who can accurately measure the impact of character players, or even identify players who are good in the dressing room, which I assume is what you're referring to here?

(Note: If you were, in fact, referring to team toughness, I'd suggest the Oilers have plenty of guys who could supply what Strudwick does in that department).

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#14 Jeff B
March 11 2009, 10:35AM
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@ Jonathan Willis:

Strudwick was brutual and looked like he didn't belong out there for most of the game. Any news on Souray?

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#15 oilersseasonticketholdersince99
March 11 2009, 10:37AM
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Based on performance for this year and the last nine he has been coach Mac T should be the one banished to the press box.!!! Brutal coach,brutal team performance,same old storey.Is there one good reason that Mac t is still coach other trhan his friendship with k lowe his record speaks for it self he should have been fired years ago!!!

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#16 Jeff B
March 11 2009, 10:40AM
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@ oilersseasonticketholdersince99:

Agreed - especially when we have to watch Horcoff get manhandled in front of the net on the PP. MacT's hate of Penner cost the team the game last night...

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#17 CurtisS
March 11 2009, 10:43AM
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@ oilersseasonticketholdersince99:

If mact is still coaching this team next year im done with the oilers and prob hockey in general.

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#18 Mike L
March 11 2009, 10:43AM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Note: If you were, in fact, referring to team toughness, I’d suggest the Oilers have plenty of guys who could supply what Strudwick does in that department).

Ask yourself this. Why has he stayed in the league so long? Is it because he is as bad as you suggest often, of maybe he has intangible that you don't give credit to. I don't claim the guy to be great, but he is far from the slug you claim him to be.

I appreciate your stats and have learned lots from them, but at times you seem to base most of your negativity towards players who don't rank high in your stat charts. And stats don't always tell the entire story.

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#19 Jonathan Willis
March 11 2009, 10:51AM
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Mike L wrote:

Ask yourself this. Why has he stayed in the league so long? Is it because he is as bad as you suggest often, of maybe he has intangible that you don’t give credit to. I don’t claim the guy to be great, but he is far from the slug you claim him to be.

He's a 7th defenseman who can play forward or wing and does whatever's asked of him. Presumably he's also good in the room.

He's fine as long as he's used in that role, but he had a bad game last night and when Souray went down MacTavish had him in the top-four.

Which is well beyond his skill-set.

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#20 Jonathan Willis
March 11 2009, 10:51AM
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Jeff B wrote:

@ Jonathan Willis: Strudwick was brutual and looked like he didn’t belong out there for most of the game. Any news on Souray?

Sounds like Souray was mostly held out for precautional reasons. Sounds like he's OK.

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#21 Jason Gregor
March 11 2009, 10:53AM
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Jeff B wrote:

Strudwick was brutual and looked like he didn’t belong out there for most of the game. Any news on Souray?

Souray will be re-evaluated today. Oilers have optional skate at two, so should find out more then.

CurtisS wrote:

If mact is still coaching this team next year im done with the oilers and prob hockey in general.

Don't start talking foolishly now. While I understand your frustration, you like all of us on here, can't walk away from hockey. We can't.

If the Oilers don't make the playoffs, which I doubt considering their schedule, MacT will re-sign I bet. Even if they make the playoffs, but lose in five in first round I'd be surprised if he is back.

But let's be honest...Come hell or high water you along with all of us on here will be back next year. You might watch with a MacT voodoo doll, but you will still watch...and hopefully come to the NATION.

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#22 Tyler
March 11 2009, 10:54AM
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I appreciate your stats and have learned lots from them, but at times you seem to base most of your negativity towards players who don’t rank high in your stat charts. And stats don’t always tell the entire story.

He was obviously basing his comments here on a specific play where Strudwick got beat. Strudwick's had a hell of a time containing guys on the boards lately and there are other examples from last night and other recent games that didn't result in goals. Everyone gets beat sometimes but it seems to be happening to Strudwick with disturbing regularity lately. They aren't all going to end up in the net - I thought Roloson was unlucky to have the angle of the puck change like that - but if you get beat enough, bad things happen.

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#23 Jonathan Willis
March 11 2009, 10:58AM
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@ Mike L:

A lot of times what I react to is conventional wisdom that I don't like. Such as:

- Pouliot is useless - Jason Strudwick has been a phenomenal addition - Penner is fat and lazy - Ales Kotalik should revitalize the first line and was worth a 2nd round pick - Ethan Moreau is awesome and the only player on this team who gives consistent effort

There's usually some value in conventional wisdom, but these themes get repeated way too often and probably aren't completely true. I prefer a more nuanced view:

- Marc Pouliot isn't the player we hoped he would be when he was drafted. Despite that, he's obviously good enough to be an NHL regular and still has some upside. - Jason Strudwick has been a good but pedestrian addition. He's a swingman who seems like a nice fit on the fourth line and can cover defense, but he's nothing special. - Dustin Penner, whatever his faults, adds quite a bit to this team that doesn't get recognized by most people. - Nothing in Ales Kotalik's track record indicates that he's a first line player. - Ethan Moreau's having a good year (scoring-wise) and adds a lot to the team and takes on hard minutes. He's also prone to stupid penalties and gets outchanced on the whole.

Sometimes I overemphasize these points to try and counter prevailing wisdom; mostly, I just try to offer a differing viewpoint.

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#24 Jonathan Willis
March 11 2009, 10:59AM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Souray will be re-evaluated today. Oilers have optional skate at two, so should find out more then.

Thanks, Jason. Is it true that Souray wanted to return in the third?

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#25 Bob Cob
March 11 2009, 11:02AM
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CurtisS wrote:

@ oilersseasonticketholdersince99: If mact is still coaching this team next year im done with the oilers and prob hockey in general.

Do you Promise? In that case I hope the keep him on as head coach! Another thing, Still think Lecavellier will get 50?

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#26 Mr DeBakey
March 11 2009, 11:06AM
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"I can’t find al ink or I would have included this Rob Daum quote in the article above"

The quote is in the post-game audio from the March 1 game against Manchester

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#27 Smokin' Ray
March 11 2009, 11:19AM
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CurtisS wrote:

Mact lost us that win able game. 3 wins in last 10 games is not good enough!

OMG! Was that MacT in the box during OT? How did that happen?

Yeah. The coach lost that one alright. *shakes head*

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#28 jayoilfan
March 11 2009, 11:20AM
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Good comments JW, I too agree about the toughness of minor leaguers er.. serior triple AAA players. I work with one who up until a recent spate of injuries used to play in the Ranchlands league with the Peigan Cowboys. His stories are amazing of the fights and other things they do to each other. BTW, he was only one of a few "honkies" on a team of First Nation Reps.

With all the mediocrity (sp?) the Oilers are putting forth lately, I have been amazed at the other teams mired in this fight for the final play off spots. The Oilers are not alone. Just when you thinik a team would take advantage of an Oil loss or OT loss, they go and lay a goose egg too. Minnie lost to SJ on OT, Nash lost to Wash oin OT and the Blues beat the Stars.

Though CBJ now looks like it may start to pull away as they won last night and or now 3 pts up on the Oilers. I still think with the way the rest of the teams are playing (equally crappy as the Oil) that if the Oilers can find a way , anyway, to put together 3 or 4 wins, it might just be enough. Mind you 16 games is a long time and they could just as easily tank most of these up coming "winable" games.

I am so full of optimism but yet reality bites back pretty hard.

Gagner is playing very well lately, and I hope if Penner gets put back on the top line it might find a spark or two. It also looks like the trades aren't doing much for the Oil, have Sully or Kotalik got any points? Cole on the other hand, well, best not mention anything about that lest Wayne goes into another crying fit.

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#29 Jason Gregor
March 11 2009, 11:20AM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Jason Gregor wrote: Souray will be re-evaluated today. Oilers have optional skate at two, so should find out more then. Thanks, Jason. Is it true that Souray wanted to return in the third?

Players always want to play, unless it's a broken leg, shoulder..etc...So I'm sure he wanted to come back in, but they took the cautious approach. This team can't afford to lose him with Visnovsky gone. He will play on Thursday.

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#30 jayoilfan
March 11 2009, 11:22AM
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damn, no edit button making me look like a blathering fool. oh wait, I am a blathering fool!

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#31 Wanye Gretz
March 11 2009, 11:28AM
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@ Mike L: @ Jonathan Willis:

I like Strudwick Willis. He is tough as nails and fights guys for sending him a sideways glance. Is he going to win a Norris anytime soon? No.

But he went to my Junior High even though I think I was in grade 1 or 2 when he was in grade nine. But kids playing floor hockey were always reminded that an NHL player went to our school. We played some excellent floor hockey in those days. Best games ever

*nostalgic tear rolls down cheek for getting to play floor hockey in days of yore*

Lay off my junior high floor hockey inspiration or face the wrath of a guy who still wishes he was 10 on occasion.

FMNF

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#32 Jonathan Willis
March 11 2009, 11:30AM
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jayoilfan wrote:

Good comments JW, I too agree about the toughness of minor leaguers er.. serior triple AAA players. I work with one who up until a recent spate of injuries used to play in the Ranchlands league with the Peigan Cowboys. His stories are amazing of the fights and other things they do to each other. BTW, he was only one of a few “honkies” on a team of First Nation Reps.

The first time I went to an NPHL (senior AAA) game, I was amazed at the calibre of hockey. Cheap tickets and a quality game, IMO.

Horse Lake had a great team back in the day - not only did they have Kip Noble, but that's where Theo Fleury went to play out his last few days.

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#33 Mike Krushelnyski
March 11 2009, 11:30AM
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jayoilfan wrote:

With all the mediocrity (sp?) the Oilers are putting forth lately, I have been amazed at the other teams mired in this fight for the final play off spots. The Oilers are not alone. Just when you thinik a team would take advantage of an Oil loss or OT loss, they go and lay a goose egg too. Minnie lost to SJ on OT, Nash lost to Wash oin OT and the Blues beat the Stars.

Everyone talks about how there is so much parity in the league now, I think there's more disparity this year than there has been in a while. The way I see the West this year is Detroit, SJ, Calgary, Chicago and 11 mediocre teams. The reason why the playoff race is still so tight and the Oilers still have a good shot is because no one outside the top-4 is good enough to step down and lock down a spot. The fact that Columbus and Vancouver are getting close to clinching is a testament to that.

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#34 Jonathan Willis
March 11 2009, 11:33AM
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@ Wanye Gretz:

"Yes sir, Wanye!"

*walks out of room, muttering under his breath about that clown Wanye*

In all seriousness though, I understand. It's completely bogus that Brad Fast, Gerard Dicaire, and Mark Hartigan didn't get more of a shot at the NHL level.

Plus, Dody Wood was always underrated.

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#35 CurtisS
March 11 2009, 11:34AM
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@ Bob Cob: Before Hemsky will ever get 80 points

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#36 CurtisS
March 11 2009, 11:35AM
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@ Jason Gregor: Maybe a little foolish talking.

I really gotta find a way to not let this team interfere with everday life.

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#37 The Towel Boy
March 11 2009, 11:42AM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

In all seriousness though, I understand. It’s completely bogus that Brad Fast, Gerard Dicaire, and Mark Hartigan didn’t get more of a shot at the NHL level. Plus, Dody Wood was always underrated.

Don't forget Sully Brandwood, Arnie Mackleway and Brent Langenfurth.

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#38 Wanye Gretz
March 11 2009, 11:44AM
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@ The Towel Boy: @ Jonathan Willis:

You are both just jealous because you didn't ever score a kickass OT floor hockey goal on a teacher who "used to stop Strudwick all the time" ergo allowing you to believe you were a superior 10 year old version of an NHL player.

Truth be told I didn't buy into this all that much but when I saw on the jubotron at RX1 that he had sponsored our old alma matter to attend an Oilers game all the memories came rushing back.

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#39 Wanye Gretz
March 11 2009, 11:45AM
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@ The Towel Boy: @ Jonathan Willis:

Oh and I have no idea who any of the players you mentioned are. And I'm not going to look them up either.

*skulks off to secretly look up players*

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#40 Jason Gregor
March 11 2009, 11:47AM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Mark Hartigan didn’t get more of a shot at the NHL level.

He won two Cups...got to party like a rock star for two summers...He had it pretty good...I'm sure he'd love to play more, but he was pretty lucky. Most tweeners would love that atmosphere...lucky bastard..haha

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#41 The Towel Boy
March 11 2009, 11:49AM
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Wanye Gretz wrote:

@ The Towel Boy: @ Jonathan Willis: Oh and I have no idea who any of the players you mentioned are. And I’m not going to look them up either. *skulks off to secretly look up players*

*feels guilty now for making up three random names*

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#42 Monday Guy
March 11 2009, 11:51AM
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The Towel Boy wrote:

Wanye Gretz wrote: *feels guilty now for making up three random names*

*Hangs head in embarrassment for spending 10 minutes on Google

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#43 Jonathan Willis
March 11 2009, 11:51AM
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@ Wanye Gretz:

Brad Fast was born in Fort St. John (and played hockey with a buddy of mine). He got one game in the NHL with Carolina or L.A.

Mark Hartigan (as Jason points out above) is actually a Cup winner, another Fort St. John guy who played with Detroit, Anaheim and elsewhere IIRC.

Gerard Dicaire was a (Tampa Bay?) draft pick who spent a few seasons in the AHL under the Lightning and Sabres, and now plays for the Fort St. John Flyers. He's from the area, but I don't know where exactly.

Dody Wood was a Sharks draft pick who played 100 games or so. He's from Chetwynd, but was a scoring star for the Fort st. John Huskies when I was 10 or thereabouts. He was coaching in Horse Lake, but I don't know where he is now.

As for Towel Boy, I'm pretty sure he made up those names.

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#44 Jonathan Willis
March 11 2009, 11:54AM
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*congratulates himself on realizing that Towel Boy made up those names without spending 10 minutes on Google*

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#45 Arnie Mackleway
March 11 2009, 11:55AM
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Don't you guys remember me streaking down the wing with my golden mullet flowing behind me, and blasting laser beams top shelf?

Arnie

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#46 Monday Guy
March 11 2009, 11:56AM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

*congratulates himself on realizing that Towel Boy made up those names without spending 10 minutes on Google*

*acknowledges Willis' supremacy. Crawls back under Rock

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#47 The Towel Boy
March 11 2009, 11:59AM
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Wow...did comment train ever get derailed quickfast and in a hurry like!

*leans back in chair with hands behind head and admires handy work*

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#48 Jonathan Willis
March 11 2009, 11:59AM
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Monday Guy wrote:

*acknowledges Willis’ supremacy. Crawls back under Rock

*cringes a little and feels embarrassed because he did look up that first name on Google before realizing how goofy all those names sounded*

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#49 Jonathan Willis
March 11 2009, 12:01PM
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The Towel Boy wrote:

Wow…did comment train ever get derailed quickfast and in a hurry like!

*silently thanks Towel Boy for derailing the comments before anybody realized that the Oilers have committed to Springfield for another season, making my Oklahoma City articles less than relevant*

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#50 topshelf
March 11 2009, 12:02PM
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@ Jonathan Willis: @ Jason Gregor: What are the chances of Mac T giving Gagner and Cogliano more of a chance offensively? (ie: bumping them up and bumping Horcoff down) Cogliano has been good for as long as I can remember and Gagner is getting there now. This way Horcoff can do what he is good at which is apparently winning draws and playing defense because he sure has forgot how to score.

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