The times they are a changin

Wanye
March 09 2009 11:50AM

Ah, candid statements of truth are a joyous thing to behold aren’t they Nation? “Some guy is just writing some (crap) on the Internet about me asking to be traded” —Ladislav Smid on Brownlee reporting that Smid rightly wants an opportunity deserving of his skill. Well that makes it official: knowledge of the OilersNation has officially entered those big sliding doors at RX1. “Some guy” is our guy Robin Brownlee, “(crap)” -- noting the brackets -- is our crap and “the internet” is undoubtedly the OilersNation. That’s some sweet sweet recognition. By the tears of sweet Suri Cruise the times they are a changing in these parts Nation. It’s been very subtle, we didn’t even notice as it was happening until recently. But of late the momentum is definitely trending up and this morning seems to be a real milestone for our little non-pornographic website. We dragged our frozen ass into Nation HQ this morning, stoked the wood-fired stove and topped up the diesel generator that allows our compumatrix to access the interwebs. And what do we read? 1. Jason Gregor conducting the first interview with Ethan Moreau since his return from an eye injury. Amazingly we found ourselves actually reading each and every response the Captain made to Gregor. Is it because we don’t want to start the work week by doing actual work? Partly, but it’s also because of something in the interview that we haven’t seen in a long, long time: An actual interview that provides interesting information given in response to non fluff questions. No questions about “do you prefer pancakes or waffles?” or well researched questions regarding a player's favourite kind of potato. Kinda suggests to us that players are prepared to make honest candid answers when they are asked honest candid questions by honest candid reporters. That’s certainly interesting to note... 2. Dan Tencer, David Staples and James Mirtle coming on here and having an old-timey pow-wow with Brownlee in a public forum where we can all read along. Now that is a definite departure from the old days when reporters would meet deep, deep underground in secret media-only bunker-type facilities and discuss secret matters amongst themselves. The rest of us were left in the dark to read speculative stories about how often Tom Gilbert cuts his hair while all the good stuff was kept behind closed doors.  Now they are out in the wide open letting the rest of us listen in. And whose comments are mixed right in there? The rest of us: the deepoils, the zamboni drivers, the socaldaves. The real fans who now get to put their two bits right in the mix with all of the big guns. Yeah, even Deep Oil is now read by thousands of people a week. Isn’t the internet great? We sure think it is. 3. Robin Brownlee breaking more news on here -– this time about Smid -- and sticking to his guns as only Brownlee can. Here is a little known fact, Nation. Robin Brownlee can’t stand your ol’ pal Wanye. We are too ignorant, too young and too unconnected to be of any value or interest to him. But one thing that we will always be able to tell people is that we showed Brownlee the power of the internet. Yes, years from now when writers congregate around Brownlee holding court in the bowels of RX2 and ask him to tell the story of how he had the foresight to be the first writer to become an editor-free force of nature on the interwebs, it gives us a special thrill that Brownlee will have to start the story with "Well back in '08 this idiot calling himself Wanye..." We read the back and forth between the Brownlian One and the Journal. A buddy of ours did too and twittered us asking “who we believe on the whole Smid thing?” We would tend to believe the guy who predicted that if Erik Cole left town he would be rolling back Chez 'Canes an incredible 15 days before it occurred. Everyone got on him then too and he stuck to his guns. We would tend to believe Brownlee on this one as well; he seems hell bent on breaking the news while others are asleep at the switch. It’s a shame -- we hope Smid doesn’t leave town. He is a certified beauty who has done whatever has been asked of him since he arrived in Edmonton. When he first arrived we had him pegged as a floater Euro D but he was paired with Staios and developed a remarkable nasty streak. We know for a fact he likes it here in E-town and will do whatever it takes to get a bigger role on the team if it means adding 94 pounds of straight muscle in the off-season, playing the wing in some games or reshingling MacT's roof over a weekend. Guys with a work ethic like that who also possess Smid's skill set should be in any plans for the future. Plus one time we attended an event he was at and we were both standing at the bar when it closed for the dinner part of the function. Smid insisted we would both be served before the bartender shut 'er down. “I don’t care what we drink but we can’t sit through speeches without something.” That is the kind of talk that makes a fan for life. Oh and just in case you thought we missed it our main man Jack Bauer gets it

#97 Jack "FMNF" Bauer March 7 2009, 8:08 pm. Hey Wanye, Cole had 4 points tonight.

Yep, the times are a changing. We can’t recall that happening when he was here.

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#1 baggedmilk
March 09 2009, 10:32AM
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Brownlee needs a hug. Wanye offered but was shot down without mercy. Smid indeed, a story for the nation, you guys do good work around these parts. If Brownlee were GM there would be no contract negotations and everyone would play for league minimum. He's that scarily mantastic.

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#2 The Towel Boy
March 09 2009, 10:33AM
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Wanye, will you still remember us when you're a big e-media tycoon swimming around in your Scroodge McDuck vault of gold coins? Will you still remember us when you're jetting off to exotic locales in the Oilersnation private jet? Will you still remember us when running your underground dog fighting ring?

Will you remember the little guys?

*tear of pride rolls down cheek*

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#3 Wanye Gretz
March 09 2009, 10:35AM
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@ The Towel Boy:

hahaha let's ask the real questions: Will Brownlee and Gregor remember us when they realize that ANYONE can make a website?

@ baggedmilk:

Hugging Brownlee would be a dangerous proposal when you remember that he usually wears a vest of electrified barbed wire...

*remembers trying to hug Brownlee, painfully rubs scars on arms*

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#4 The Towel Boy
March 09 2009, 10:36AM
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baggedmilk wrote:

He’s that scarily mantastic.

I'm pretty sure he bleeds straight jet fighter fuel instead of blood.

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#5 OvenChicken8
March 09 2009, 10:56AM
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Dan Tencer, David Staples and James Mirtle coming on here and having an old tymey Pow Wow with Brownlee in a public forum where we can all read along

I have to admit I was shocked to see Tencer actually post on here.

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#6 Poo Czar
March 09 2009, 10:57AM
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I'm not sure how many Hudsons gift cards and Nation shirts Brownlee gets a month, but it's probably not enough for what he's been bringing to the table. The man informs and terrifies in equal measure. Huzzah for the Nation!

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#7 Q
March 09 2009, 11:00AM
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Wanye,

the damnable part of all of this is how I just don't look at regular news anymore. I just spend my time wondering what horrific new narrative you will create and whether Amber is going to say something that makes my skin crawl while I am laughing milk out my nose. And trying to figure out what Corsi/Vic Ferrari/GFAON etc mean when looking at Willis' work.

The bit about breaking news is ok too ...

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#8 Librarian Mike
March 09 2009, 11:09AM
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I love this website almost as much as Wanye loves Erik Cole. *sniff*

(I'm giving Wanye a man hug with 3 pats in my mind right now).

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#9 SeanS
March 09 2009, 11:10AM
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Just wondering (stuck at work without facebook) when is the nation party at hudsons? the 20th? and where do we print off these pretty vouchers

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#10 baggedmilk
March 09 2009, 11:12AM
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I'll tell you what the problem is with Oilers Nation. Wanye Gretz is in fact a robot from the planet Altimon whose space ship crashed centuries ago, and with his vast robot knowledge he has put mind control devices into the programming codes of this website. This programming hypnotizes all of us into coming back here and spending more time at the nation than doing actual work during the day. Some people say the recession was caused by a credit crisis, I say it was caused by Wanye Gretz. The jig is up Gretz, you've been made.

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#11 Wanye Gretz
March 09 2009, 11:25AM
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@ Q :

I have a secret plan for the offseason to have Willis do a "Statistics for dummies" where he will try and explain Corsi/Vic Ferrari/GFAON to all of us. I will take the lead and get all the dumb questions out of the way for us.

@ Librarian Mike:

Thank you for the hug Sir. I am generally inconsolable for a few days after the Oilers trade my star for the season. It has now happened twice in 3 years. (Smyth, Cole)

@ SeanS:

There should be an ad up on here later in the day for the "Evening with the Nation" in support of Kids with Cancer. The evite and everything will be attached I would guess.

@ baggedmilk:

I can almost hear Deep Oil fact checking your statement as we speak. If you think the Nation wastes your time now, wait till you see the new thing that will be coming out for next season on here. Our collective careers will go right down the shiteroo!

(insert dramatic foreshadowing music here)

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#12 Darcy
March 09 2009, 11:29AM
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In Tychkowski's article, he references David Staples' blog, not this one, nor Brownlee.

Staples says he has his own sources on this and doesn't reference Brownlee at all.

I think Brownlee posted his info in a thread before the Staples article, but I am not positive on that.

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#13 Chad
March 09 2009, 11:32AM
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Can't remember Cole playing with Eric Staal while he was here either.

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#14 Darcy
March 09 2009, 11:32AM
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Opps. I guess Staples did credit Brownlee.

You guys are also whining about Ireland, Tych had the same article referencing Staples.

You may now go back to your regularly scheduled drinking.

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#15 Travis Dakin
March 09 2009, 11:32AM
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Wanye Gretz wrote:

If you think the Nation wastes your time now, wait till you see the new thing that will be coming out for next season on here. Our collective careers will go right down the shiteroo!

Oh dammit.... Parenting is taking a serious back seat enough as it is.

Damn you nation! I can't quit you....

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#16 Travis Dakin
March 09 2009, 11:33AM
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Darcy wrote:

You may now go back to your regularly scheduled drinking.

Is it noon already?

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#17 baggedmilk
March 09 2009, 11:34AM
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Wanye Gretz wrote:

I can almost hear Deep Oil fact checking your statement as we speak

*fashions two Oilers Nation tin foil helmets, hands one to Gretz and resumes fetal position in pleather couch fort*

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#18 Poo Czar
March 09 2009, 11:38AM
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I get the impression that Deep Oil might just be the real life equivalent of a Bond villain. Or just good 'ol batshit crazy. Maybe both.

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#19 Q
March 09 2009, 11:52AM
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Does Deep Oil exist? Or is he/she more of a Yeti type of creation? I may not be reading as much as I need to, but I don't see this famed Deep Oil going off the Deep Oil-end. I call hoax.

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#20 Dan from Wainwright
March 09 2009, 11:54AM
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On the 4thperiod website it has Jagr trying to get out of his last season with Omsk next year to come to Edm, also that MacT is done if there are no playoffs. http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/edm090308.html

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#21 Ender the Dragon
March 09 2009, 12:01PM
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Wanye Gretz wrote:

If you think the Nation wastes your time now, wait till you see the new thing that will be coming out for next season on here. Our collective careers will go right down the shiteroo!

I am seriously going to need to find some sort of Recovery Program at that point. Bad enough I can't complete one simple task already without having to refresh comments on this damn thing.

If they ever get a time-logging mechanism on this system, I am so frickin' screwed . . .

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#22 Deep Oil
March 09 2009, 12:04PM
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OvenChicken8 wrote:

Dan Tencer, David Staples and James Mirtle coming on here and having an old tymey Pow Wow with Brownlee in a public forum where we can all read along I have to admit I was shocked to see Tencer actually post on here.

I am sure CHED GM Rutherford via Watt will have a sit down with the young buck. By posting on a non approved Rexall Sports site, creditibility is created. I am sure that MR. T will be persuaded to post the valuable content (Watt's reference on JAG)on edmontonoilers.com or 630ched.com

Again - with much respect to RB, what is the value of an RFA wanted to be traded and this story comes out after the deadline - true or not - both the Oil and Smid and stuck to each other like glue until July 01.

The more the denials came out - the funnier it got.

Oh well - with the oilers off at club supersex in Montreal.... it was good fodder...

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#23 Ender the Dragon
March 09 2009, 12:06PM
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Awaiting moderation? Are you kidding? For that?

Wanye, as advanced as we are already, get us and edit button. Please. We know about the login; we get it, we vote for it, we'll do whatever we need to do, just get us the button. Then I can change the word 'dam*' to 'gosh-darn' all by myself.

Sheesh. Even my Mom was surprised. 'Awaiting moderation.' Pfffft.

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#24 Ender the Dragon
March 09 2009, 12:09PM
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@ Ender the Dragon: . . . 'An edit button . . .

(I can't believe I typo'd on the plea for an edit button.)

[sigh]

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#25 Deep Oil
March 09 2009, 12:12PM
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Dan from Wainwright wrote:

On the 4thperiod website it has Jagr trying to get out of his last season with Omsk next year to come to Edm, also that MacT is done if there are no playoffs. http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/edm090308.html

Would of never of guessed that MACT's job is in jeopardy due to non playoff revenue clusterbuck....

Shouldn't DOHO be shown the door as well for immediate harm and future cap storm when GAG and COGS come out of their first term contracts.... I am thinking that moving DOHO to CHAIR and remove him from all hockey related operations - and just be the figurehead from the past - siginificant pay cut..... I do not think that Mrs. Percy-Lowe would be pleased.

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#26 iceICEbaby
March 09 2009, 12:20PM
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Before you get too carried away with hero worship remember first and foremost why Robin has chosen to grace you with his magnificence.

He managed to slam shut the doors behind him everywhere he has worked. He might know his hockey but the guy is freakin' scary to be around let alone work with.

You guys need to start checking work references before you hire. Duh...

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#27 BUCK75 - FMNF
March 09 2009, 12:33PM
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@ Wanye Gretz:

Yeah it is kinda funny to see you guys actually get 'credible' between forgetting to pay renewal fees to GoDaddy & former dealings with a POS provider that made it difficult to manage the traffic. ;)

A nice mix of information & entertainment - although a revival of the RSB would be good on Sundays. The likes of Gregor, Brownlee & even Willis make coming to the site more informative. Having guys like Mirtle & Staples giving the site hat tips is HUGE.

Hopefully you guys continue to be ahead of the curve & the pack.

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#28 Librarian Mike
March 09 2009, 12:34PM
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Anybody else notice how much Vanilla Ice looks like Mark Messier?

There, I said it.

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#29 Jason Gregor
March 09 2009, 12:38PM
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Looks like Penner will be a healthy scratch tomorrow night in Montreal...could change but right now looks like he'll be riding the back in the back room while the game is on...

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#30 Peter Pan
March 09 2009, 12:50PM
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@ Jason Gregor:

Hey Gregs,

Rolie or JDD vs HABS?

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#31 Archaeologuy
March 09 2009, 12:53PM
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@ Jason Gregor: I know Penner has been doing his best Jason Allison skating impersonation, but what is the other option? Nilson?

Either way, your going to get a guy who isnt giving it everything he can. Pull up a guy from Springfield Oilers! Even if you pick up Schremp (I know Gregor, I know) for a game they'll likely get more inspired play.

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#32 Jason Gregor
March 09 2009, 12:53PM
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Roloson...he just stoned the Leafs, no way he doesn't go tomorrow especially with two days off between games.

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#33 Jason Gregor
March 09 2009, 12:56PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Either way, your going to get a guy who isnt giving it everything he can. Pull up a guy from Springfield Oilers! Even if you pick up Schremp (I know Gregor, I know) for a game they’ll likely get more inspired play.

After the trade deadline each team submits a list of four players that can be recalled, or sent down from the OIlers. I doubt Schremp made that list.

Peckham is on it, Dubnyk is in case of a goalie injury. I would guess Mat Roy is on it as well, in case of injury. The 4th is probably Brule. They already have three healthy forward scratches right now, they aren't calling up another one, but I doubt Schremp's name is on the list of four. I know the first three names I said are correct, but I haven't got confirmation on the 4th. But I don't see Schremp being ahead of Brule.

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#34 Dan from Wainwright
March 09 2009, 12:57PM
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Peter Pan wrote:

@ Jason Gregor: Hey Gregs, Rolie or JDD vs HABS?

Does that even need to be asked?

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#35 Archaeologuy
March 09 2009, 12:58PM
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@ Jason Gregor: Thanks for that info, I did not know that.

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#36 Greg MC
March 09 2009, 01:20PM
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@ Wanye Gretz: A happy worker (Cole) is a productive worker. Really, a bit of an obsession, no?

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#37 Milli
March 09 2009, 01:24PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Looks like Penner will be a healthy scratch tomorrow night in Montreal…could change but right now looks like he’ll be riding the back in the back room while the game is on…

WELL IT'S ABOUT FRIGGIN TIME. I was never against this guy, but he has been FLOATING way more than usual. Think maybe we could sent him to toronto?

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#38 Q
March 09 2009, 01:38PM
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@Milli

If you came in to work, did a great job, met all your quotas, showed up half the guys at the offfice and then got hauled up by the boss to be ripped a new one every day, would you be giving it your best effort? I know the perception problem of Penner, he is a skill guy in a bruiser body, but any line that has him on it does great numbers and carries the play. Sure, he dropped the ball against Toronto, but other fav's on this team do it night after night and get way more rope (for much smaller results too!). I mean, I would be looking for ways to earn some criticism too, 'cause I know I would be getting it no matter how well I did my job. Might as well be criticised for something I did, not just something pulled out of the air.

I am only surprised that Penner has not just called in sick for the last two months or done some type of hold out. Probably 'cause he's classier than anyone gives him credit for.

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#39 Wanye Gretz
March 09 2009, 01:39PM
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BUCK75 - FMNF wrote:

@ Wanye Gretz: Yeah it is kinda funny to see you guys actually get ‘credible’ between forgetting to pay renewal fees to GoDaddy & former dealings with a POS provider that made it difficult to manage the traffic.

Hey it's tough to remember to do everything. Between iPods, Nintendo Wii, the economy and seven excellent Saw films to choose from we have better things to think about than renewing domain names.

Sigh

Tis a work in progress b75. We have never once claimed to be sharp. Well I haven't at least.

*drools*

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#40 Jonathan Willis
March 09 2009, 01:48PM
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Milli wrote:

WELL IT’S ABOUT FRIGGIN TIME. I was never against this guy, but he has been FLOATING way more than usual. Think maybe we could sent him to toronto?

What's the point to scratching Penner now?

It hasn't motivated him, and he's better than half the roster.

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#41 Jack "FMNF" Bauer
March 09 2009, 03:15PM
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Montreal just fired their coach.

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#42 Jack "FMNF" Bauer
March 09 2009, 03:34PM
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Hey Jason/Robin. Any update on the Smid concussion?

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#43 risto
March 09 2009, 03:43PM
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Have you considered asking MacT to join the Nation stable next year?

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#44 Liberace
March 09 2009, 03:52PM
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Jack "FMNF" Bauer wrote:

Montreal just fired their coach.

Teams are canning coaches left and right and we stand pat. Is this a source of pride or embarrassment for us? I can't figure out which.

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#45 Jason Gregor
March 09 2009, 03:54PM
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Milli wrote:

WELL IT’S ABOUT FRIGGIN TIME. I was never against this guy, but he has been FLOATING way more than usual. Think maybe we could sent him to toronto?

I doubt anyone is taking that contract...No chance.

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#46 Deep Oil
March 09 2009, 04:18PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Looks like Penner will be a healthy scratch tomorrow night in Montreal…could change but right now looks like he’ll be riding the back in the back room while the game is on…

I thought he got lost at a Montreal smoked meat shop (Dunn's)and never returned back.

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#47 Deep Oil
March 09 2009, 04:21PM
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risto wrote:

Have you considered asking MacT to join the Nation stable next year?

MACT would have to blog for oilers.nhl.com and be the straight man for Gene P. Blogging for ON would be a contract violation for the payout of the last year...

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#48 Deep Oil
March 09 2009, 04:52PM
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Wanye Gretz wrote:

@ Q : I have a secret plan for the offseason to have Willis do a “Statistics for dummies” where he will try and explain Corsi/Vic Ferrari/GFAON to all of us. I will take the lead and get all the dumb questions out of the way for us. @ Librarian Mike: Thank you for the hug Sir. I am generally inconsolable for a few days after the Oilers trade my star for the season. It has now happened twice in 3 years. (Smyth, Cole) @ SeanS: There should be an ad up on here later in the day for the “Evening with the Nation” in support of Kids with Cancer. The evite and everything will be attached I would guess. @ baggedmilk: I can almost hear Deep Oil fact checking your statement as we speak. If you think the Nation wastes your time now, wait till you see the new thing that will be coming out for next season on here. Our collective careers will go right down the shiteroo! (insert dramatic foreshadowing music here)

As an internet and social media genius, I would have an option for all posts to be sent the persons email (option) to engage in real time sack beatings. And keep up to date all the important ponderings of Wanye and What you talking about Willis..... where do I send my invoice for consulting....

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#49 Smokin' Ray
March 09 2009, 04:53PM
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So when I said a month ago... "The Oilers should suck it up ($$$) and send Penner to the minors for the rest of the year." Does everyone still think i'm nuts? I'd still do it today.

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#50 Deep Oil
March 09 2009, 04:55PM
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risto wrote:

Have you considered asking MacT to join the Nation stable next year?

Jack "FMNF" Bauer wrote:

Hey Jason/Robin. Any update on the Smid concussion?

My hospital sources state that Smid's concussion has resulted in long term memory loss, therefore denying the trade request is now plausible.

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