QTNA 7: will Roloson be staying?

Jason Gregor
April 23 2009 10:13AM

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There's a lot going on in the sporting world, but for the first time in a long time changes are happening within the Oilers. Coaching and managerial moves are more enticing to fans than player moves right now.

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Do we not owe our first round pick to the Ducks, or have we paid that nasty debt last season? —Nathan

Nate, the Ducks already got all three of their picks for the Dustin Penner signing last summer. They were the 12th, 43rd and 73rd picks. The Ducks ended up trading down last summer and took Jake Gardiner with the 17th pick, then they took Justin Schultz with the 43rd pick, and then the Islanders ended up with the 73rd pick taking Kirill Petrov.

While many doubt Penner will ever live up to his contract, if any of those players pan out then the signing looks even worse.

Gregor, what are the Oilers going to do with Roloson. Is he coming back? —Alan on the southside

Right now I think it is doubtful. It sounds like Roloson wants a two-year deal, and there is NO chance the Oilers will sign him for two years. If he would agree to a one-year contract I could see them coming to an agreement, but right now Roloson and his agent are looking for a two-year pact.

The risk, along with the inevitable decline in salary cap for the 2010/11 season, won’t allow the Oilers to sign him. I was told straight out by an agent that a two-year deal for Roloson in Edmonton WON'T happen.

I said in February that financially the Oilers can’t afford him for two years, not to mention the risk involved if age does catch up to him next year.

Here are some options that they could sign for two-year deals, that would be cheaper and a less of a risk, age wise.

Scott Clemmensen -- he made $500,000 last year. You could probably sign him for $1.2-$1.5 million a year.

Ty Conklin – he made under a million this past year and with Jimmy Howard ready in Detroit you could get him for the same money as Clemmensen if not less.

Craig Anderson – he put up some good numbers at the start of the year in Florida. He made $575,000 last year and considering he wasn’t the starter he can’t be expecting more than a million.

Other options would be Gerber, Biron (probably too expensive), Niittymaki, Legace and possibly Khabibulin.

I keep hearing that the Hawks are very interested in Roloson for next year, even though they've signed Huet to big dollars. The Flyers will also be looking for a goalie, and since their window of opportunity to win is in the next two years they could take a run at the Colossal Fossil as well.

You keep saying Cogliano can’t play the wing. Why? —Peter D

Do you remember in the 2007/08 season when Pisani was diagnosed with Colitis? They tried Cogliano on the wing and he was lost out there. Learning a new position is harder for some players than other, just ask Erik "I can’t score in the playoffs" Cole.

It has become clear for Cogliano that he might not have a choice if he doesn’t improve in the face-off dot. If he can become even a 46-48% in the dot they will be happy, but if not, then he will have to move to the wing. Cogliano will improve in the dot because of experience and the natural strength he will add in the upcoming years. The problem for him is that he will have to show signs of improvement next year, because the new coach can’t afford to have him 37% in the dot next year.

I have heard many names tossed around for the next Oilers head coach. Who do you think will get it? —Allison

***Gregor side note: we are starting to get more girls on the site. Yesssss!
Steve Tambellini is not one to share his thoughts a whole bunch, but I do know that he wants a coach who will be a hard-ass. The next coach will demand accountability from all of his players, not just the young ones.

It became ridiculously obvious this past year that certain players had more leeway with MacTavish than others. He isn’t the first coach to have positive or negative biases towards players, but it became too apparent this past season. Some could do no wrong: Horcoff, Gagner, Moreau, Staios and Reddox were the most glaring cases.

The next head coach naturally won’t have that much of a bias at the start, but he will find players he trusts and relies on more than others.

One of Ken Hitchcock’s philosophies is, “To get the best players on my side and have them be the messengers within the room.”

Right now I don’t know who are the clear-cut best five players on the Oilers. Souray, Hemsky and Visnvosky are the obvious three, so I would expect the coach to demand lots out of those three and go from there. He has to have a good relationship with his captain, and if Moreau returns next year, you can expect to see him play as disciplined as he did after returning from his eye injury.

Pat Quinn has a presence about him that would command respect, and while he's a players coach, if you get on his bad side he will let you have it.

Brent Sutter demands a lot out of his players, and if he becomes available he is at the top of the list, although I’m hearing the chance of that happening is pretty slim.

Tom Renney is not a hard-ass according to one of his former players. He is very good at teaching and systems. He is always prepared and makes sure his team is as well.

Marc Crawford gets mixed reviews. A player who had him in LA said he wasn’t good at communicating, while a former player in Colorado said he was fiery and really held his players accountable. It's interesting that a player from a winning team spoke highly of him, yet the LA player, who lost most of the time, didn’t give a positive report. He is in the mix, but my gut says he won’t be the guy.

I honestly can’t get a good read on who is the main front runner at this point. I could give a list of who I think will be the next coach, but at this point it would honestly be a guess. Tambellini keeps things so close to the vest that even some guys within the organization don’t know which way he is leaning. I will say don’t expect an announcement anytime soon.

What is happening with our assistant coaches? Will any of them be returning? —Gerard Leigh

Tambellini won’t force his new coach to inherit any assistant coaches. He will be able to pick his whole staff. Pete Peeters could stay because goalie coaches have a very specific role and they don’t travel with the team all of the time, so chemistry isn’t as important.

Kelly Buchberger seems the most likely to stick around in come capacity. When MacTavish gets a new job, I wouldn’t be surprised if Charlie Huddy goes with him, while Billy Moores will probably become a free agent.

Tambellini just got back from the under-18s and will be having meetings with the assistants either this week or next. Will they have a presser to announce what is happening? Possibly, but not a guarantee, and it seems less likely that MacTavish will pull a Carbonneau and have a presser of his own a few weeks after getting fired.

MacTavish was never one who liked to talk about himself, so I doubt he is eager to hold his own presser.

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#1 oilersseasonticketholdersince99
April 23 2009, 10:26AM
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Hopefully Tamballini makes the right moves with the coaching staff,scouting and players,It sucks watching Calgary in the playoffs,

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#2 Quicksilver ballet
April 23 2009, 10:27AM
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2yrs 2 1/2 per may make it worth his while, this team isn't going to do anything for atleast 2 yrs anyways. First i would explore some longer term options...Carey Price,Lethonen Halak etc.

Roli would take less (with bonuses) if a competitive eastern based team like the Wings came calling i'm sure.

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#3 oilersseasonticketholdersince99
April 23 2009, 10:41AM
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Hopefully Tambalini makes the right moves,It sucks watching Calgary in the playoffs!!!!

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#4 RossCreek
April 23 2009, 10:45AM
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What happened to all the Kevin Prendergast talk? Is he now a safe bet to stay? (Yikes!)

Roli's gotta go! Nittymaki would be a decent option IMO. I also like some of the younger guys that you'd have to trade for (Lehtonen, Harding, Halak, etc.)

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#5 Wanye Gretz
April 23 2009, 10:51AM
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Want to hear something really exciting? Robin Brownlee just resigned with our non-pornographic site until December 2010! Imagine what life will be like at that point in the distant future?

Moon bases, cities hung from sky hooks.......

Thanks Robin for all your hard work and for discussing the real issues with the team not the fluff that many other people want to write about.

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#6 RBK
April 23 2009, 10:52AM
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@ Wanye Gretz:

SWEET!!!!!!

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#7 Jonathan Willis
April 23 2009, 10:54AM
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Craig Anderson – he put up some good numbers at the start of the year in Florida. He made $575,000 last year and considering he wasn’t the starter he can’t be expecting more than a million.

I'd be very surprised if Anderson's contract is on the lower side of the 1MM dollar mark; I'd guess 1.25-2MM.

Still, there are a lot of 1A goaltenders out there; Manny Fernandez and Jason Labarbera come to mind as well.

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#8 RossCreek
April 23 2009, 10:55AM
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Ahh...whats goin on here

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#9 Sandra
April 23 2009, 11:05AM
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I hope they don't keep Peters, He has not developed any goalies at all. What was drafted , all seem to be going the way of Jason Bonsignor, If he worked with Desjarlais, maybe we would know what he can be. Didn't Peters say Tommy Salo was great under pressure? Oilers draft butter fly goalies with a Stand up tradional goalie coach.

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#10 bengood
April 23 2009, 11:06AM
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Hey Gregor, what do you think the chances are of Staios and Moreau coming back? Both of them (Staios especially) sounded surprisingly like they aren't super interested in coming back in their comments at their post-tambellini presser after Mac-T was let go..

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#11 Jonathan Willis
April 23 2009, 11:13AM
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I'm a little surprised Jonas Gustavsson wasn't mentioned; he's having a phenomenal year in Sweden and could be an NHL starter as soon as next season. Funnier yet, there's a decent chance that his first NHL team will be the Oilers.

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#12 sittingatmydesk
April 23 2009, 11:13AM
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WTF!!!! robin is gone.... what is the nation going to do about this..? bring in dan barnes..

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#13 Ogden Brother
April 23 2009, 11:13AM
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Gregor/Brownlee/Willis:

What do you think the odds are of the team throwing out a big offer for Gaborik or Havlat?

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#14 max fisher
April 23 2009, 11:16AM
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there's a lot of options for goalies out there. If you dont have one of the top 5 studs between the pipes, it's pointless to spend more than 2.5 m/yr.

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#15 Harlie
April 23 2009, 11:22AM
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sittingatmydesk wrote:

WTF!!!! robin is gone…. .

if it's true that he is gone then he will be missed and I'm not surprised if he dibbed out.

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#16 Jonathan Willis
April 23 2009, 11:44AM
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Ogden Brother wrote:

Gregor/Brownlee/Willis: What do you think the odds are of the team throwing out a big offer for Gaborik or Havlat?

With what money? I think they go the trade route, although hypothetically they could dump Penner somewhere and use that cash to pick up one of those excellent players. On the other hand, that doesn't help the size/aggression level of the team, so I'd guess they're looking elsewhere.

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#17 Jonathan Willis
April 23 2009, 11:45AM
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#18 Ducey
April 23 2009, 11:48AM
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sittingatmydesk wrote:

WTF!!!! robin is gone…. what is the nation going to do about this..? bring in dan barnes..

I think that was re-signed not resigned...I doubt his resignation would be really exciting...

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#19 Rob
April 23 2009, 11:49AM
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@ Wanye Gretz:

Did you mean resigned or re-signed???

If Brownlee is gone he will be missed.

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#20 Jason Gregor
April 23 2009, 11:49AM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Roli would take less (with bonuses) if a competitive eastern based team like the Wings came calling i’m sure.

Roloson can't get any bonuses in his contract. Only rookies on entry level deals, or players who are coming off multi-year injuries and have games played incentives qualify. And the latter cases are very rare now. bengood wrote:

Hey Gregor, what do you think the chances are of Staios and Moreau coming back? Both of them (Staios especially) sounded surprisingly like they aren’t super interested in coming back in their comments at their post-tambellini presser after Mac-T was let go.. If I'm betting on those two specifically then right now it would be more likely to see Moreau return rather than Staios. As for Staios hinting he didn't want to come back, I didn't sense that. He really likes the city. His kids are in school here and he played a lot last year. But if one of those two gets moved, I'd say it would be Staios before Moreau.

sittingatmydesk wrote:

WTF!!!! robin is gone….

Sober up. Wanye said he was re-signed until the end of 2010... Jonathan Willis wrote:

I’m a little surprised Jonas Gustavsson wasn’t mentioned; he’s having a phenomenal year in Sweden and could be an NHL starter as soon as next season. Funnier yet

The Oilers are one of the teams in the mix. I didn't mention him because he isn't a proven NHL goalie yet. The Oilers, along with about eight other teams, are pretty high on him, but the Oilers are in the mix. Ogden Brother wrote:

Gregor/Brownlee/Willis: What do you think the odds are of the team throwing out a big offer for Gaborik or Havlat?

Havlat won't command that big of an offer. He made six million last year, but I don't see him getting that next season. We have seen a bit of a dip in the top end contracts. Not much of course, so I could see Havlat ending up around a $5.2-$5.6 cap hit. The Hawks and his agent are already talking extension, and he loves it in Chicago because he gets lots of icetime, but he doesn't have to be the face of the franchise. He likes that aspect.

Gaborik will be a hot commodity, but his injury history makes teams, including the Oilers, a bit leery. Some are already whispering that Hossa has a deal in Detroit but it hasn't been announced, and if that is true then Gaborik becomes the top forward on the market. The Kings have lots of cap space and are very interested.

The Oilers will do their homework on Gaborik's groin and if they get a good report they will be in the sweepstakes. Will they be in the final two like they were with Hossa last year, is debatable at this point. I don't know if they would be willing to go long term with Gaborik like they were with Hossa. And I'll bet someone gives Gaborik a seven or eight year deal.

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#21 bingofuel
April 23 2009, 11:50AM
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@ Wanye Gretz: Wanye, you putz. He didn't "resign" he "re-signed."

Brownlee's here to stay, my lovelies. Wanye's status after that gaffe is questionable however. *finds baseball bat, goes to "teach" Wanye about "English".*

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#22 Ogden Brother
April 23 2009, 11:53AM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Ogden Brother wrote: Gregor/Brownlee/Willis: What do you think the odds are of the team throwing out a big offer for Gaborik or Havlat? With what money? I think they go the trade route, although hypothetically they could dump Penner somewhere and use that cash to pick up one of those excellent players. On the other hand, that doesn’t help the size/aggression level of the team, so I’d guess they’re looking elsewhere.

They've got the $$ for next year, and as you've said they can make room relatively easily going forward.

I agree they aren't the best fit, but from what we keep hearing, it sounds likt they want to go after Hossa again... which probably isn't happening. Gaborik/Havlat would give them that same offensive boost for probably not as much $$... though with substantial more risk :( ... that said, I can see the team landing one of those two offer Hossa.

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#23 DK0
April 23 2009, 11:53AM
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sittingatmydesk wrote:

WTF!!!! robin is gone….

Wanye Gretz wrote:

Want to hear something really exciting? Robin Brownlee just resigned with our non-pornographic site until December 2010!

resigned = re-signed as in staying here till 2010 :)

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#24 Greg MC
April 23 2009, 11:56AM
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@ Wanye Gretz: Great news! You must have a lot of Bud Light empties.

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#25 Ogden Brother
April 23 2009, 11:59AM
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Jason Gregor wrote: Gregor/Brownlee/Willis: What do you think the odds are of the team throwing out a big offer for Gaborik or Havlat? Havlat won’t command that big of an offer. He made six million last year, but I don’t see him getting that next season. We have seen a bit of a dip in the top end contracts. Not much of course, so I could see Havlat ending up around a $5.2-$5.6 cap hit. The Hawks and his agent are already talking extension, and he loves it in Chicago because he gets lots of icetime, but he doesn’t have to be the face of the franchise. He likes that aspect. Gaborik will be a hot commodity, but his injury history makes teams, including the Oilers, a bit leery. Some are already whispering that Hossa has a deal in Detroit but it hasn’t been announced, and if that is true then Gaborik becomes the top forward on the market. The Kings have lots of cap space and are very interested. The Oilers will do their homework on Gaborik’s groin and if they get a good report they will be in the sweepstakes. Will they be in the final two like they were with Hossa last year, is debatable at this point. I don’t know if they would be willing to go long term with Gaborik like they were with Hossa. And I’ll bet someone gives Gaborik a seven or eight year deal.

Gaborik is certainly intriguing, but as you said... long term could/would be scary.

I'm suprised Chi is talking extension with Havlat, they are (potentially) in a bigger cap pickle then the Oil

23 already commited for 2010 with only 5 guys signed. and Toews/Kane/Kieth all up for substantial raises (could be 15 - 18+ for the three of them). Is their ownership group willing to eat a contracts like Huet/Campbell?

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#26 Poo Czar
April 23 2009, 12:00PM
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Since the Oil are hardly a "Win Now" team I'd much rather see them trade up and draft Schenn than take a run at Gaborik or any other overpriced free agent. Kid seems to fit what Tambo is looking for, and I'd rather see this seem stockpile solid (and cheap) youg talent for a few years to add to Gags & Cogs. Hemsky at 30 with a few young stars in the top six suits me just fine.

Didn't Brownlee himslef make the "resign vs. re-sign" slip in an article a while back?

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#27 Ogden Brother
April 23 2009, 12:01PM
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Ogden Brother wrote:

Jonathan Willis wrote: Ogden Brother wrote: Gregor/Brownlee/Willis: What do you think the odds are of the team throwing out a big offer for Gaborik or Havlat? With what money? I think they go the trade route, although hypothetically they could dump Penner somewhere and use that cash to pick up one of those excellent players. On the other hand, that doesn’t help the size/aggression level of the team, so I’d guess they’re looking elsewhere. They’ve got the $$ for next year, and as you’ve said they can make room relatively easily going forward. I agree they aren’t the best fit, but from what we keep hearing, it sounds likt they want to go after Hossa again… which probably isn’t happening. Gaborik/Havlat would give them that same offensive boost for probably not as much $$… though with substantial more risk … that said, I can see the team landing one of those two offer Hossa.

*meant to say*

"I can see the team (Oilers) landing one of those two (Havlat/Gaborik) over Hossa"

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#28 Ogden Brother
April 23 2009, 12:06PM
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Poo Czar wrote:

Since the Oil are hardly a “Win Now” team I’d much rather see them trade up and draft Schenn than take a run at Gaborik or any other overpriced free agent. Kid seems to fit what Tambo is looking for, and I’d rather see this seem stockpile solid (and cheap) youg talent for a few years to add to Gags & Cogs. Hemsky at 30 with a few young stars in the top six suits me just fine. Didn’t Brownlee himslef make the “resign vs. re-sign” slip in an article a while back?

I'd prefer to go that route as well... can't see the team doing it though.

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#29 Mike
April 23 2009, 12:15PM
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Gregor,

In regards to Cogliano and faceoffs, how come they haven't tried just having a winger take his draws?

Obviously you'd want a winger who can actually win his fair share, but I know Dustin Penner was taking a few draws last season, and I don't have his numbers, but I don't think he was doing too badly.

Of course that depends if he returns or not, and if those two even end up on the same line, but the same could even be said for O'Sullivan, or even Gagner - although it seems fair to say now that Gagner is a permanent centre after he played well there down the stretch, on both ends of the rink.

So why not have ______ take the draws, and allow Cogs to still play the position as far as the majority of time spent in the middle, with the centreman's defensive assignments, etc?

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#30 Rice
April 23 2009, 12:16PM
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I don't like this option that I am going to put forth but some input would be nice... what about Iron Mike, as a coach, if his Calgary relationship ends. He is a hard ass and the people seem to want one.

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#31 Jason Gregor
April 23 2009, 12:18PM
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Ogden Brother wrote:

23 already commited for 2010 with only 5 guys signed. and Toews/Kane/Kieth all up for substantial raises (could be 15 - 18+ for the three of them). Is their ownership group willing to eat a contracts like Huet/Campbell?

Some teams might have to eat salary by sending guys the minors, but I don't see why the Hawks would eat Campbell's contract. He does a lot for them.

As for Kane and Toews it will interesting to see what they get. Second contract for both, and I bet they will go long term deals, that might lower the cap hit...I don't see either getting more than five right now, and in Toews case does he get four just yet? We will see. They both love it there, so I could see them taking a bit of a home town discount, same for Keith.

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#32 callighenfan
April 23 2009, 12:19PM
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JG, why do you think Buchberger will be back? His optics aren't exactly stellar: marginal AHL track record, lousy special teams this year. Why does the organization believe he has value as a coach? From a fan's perspective, it appears as though he didn't earn the job in the first place, and hasn't done anything to alter that perception since.

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#33 Jason Gregor
April 23 2009, 12:19PM
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Mike wrote:

In regards to Cogliano and faceoffs, how come they haven’t tried just having a winger take his draws?

It is a possibility, and Penner would be the obvious choice. I could see that happening at times, but eventually Cogliano has to, and probably will improve. If he is 46% in the dot next year I wouldn't be that surprised.

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#34 Archaeologuy
April 23 2009, 12:20PM
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@ Wanye Gretz: December 2010? Halfway through the 2010 season we might lose Brownlee? That's all the Oilers need, another excuse for tanking the last half of a season.

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#35 RossCreek
April 23 2009, 12:28PM
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@ Wanye Gretz: Thanks Robin & thanks to whomever else is responsible for this gr8 news.

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#36 sittingatmydesk
April 23 2009, 12:29PM
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@ Jason Gregor: Some are already whispering that Hossa has a deal in Detroit ...i cant see it happening, they already have aprox 44.7 mill committed to 12 players for next season if they gey hossa ( cap hit 5 mill)their cap willb eclose to 50 mill, they would need 10 more players for 6 mill? i odnt tihnk hen holland is that stupid..

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#37 humantorch
April 23 2009, 12:47PM
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Gregor wrote:

Kelly Buchberger seems the most likely to stick around in come capacity.

Excuse me while I go kick a puppy and punch a baby.

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#38 Jonathan Willis
April 23 2009, 12:49PM
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Mike wrote:

In regards to Cogliano and faceoffs, how come they haven’t tried just having a winger take his draws?

Because Craig MacTavish preferred to die on the Liam Reddox hill than the Marc Pouliot one.

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#39 TV
April 23 2009, 12:56PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Craig Anderson – he put up some good numbers at the start of the year in Florida. He made $575,000 last year and considering he wasn’t the starter he can’t be expecting more than a million. I’d be very surprised if Anderson’s contract is on the lower side of the 1MM dollar mark; I’d guess 1.25-2MM. Still, there are a lot of 1A goaltenders out there; Manny Fernandez and Jason Labarbera come to mind as well.

& I will still be here to do whatever I can to get Mr. Labarbera OFF your mind when it comes to him & the Oiler Goaltending woes.

x6

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#40 TV
April 23 2009, 01:02PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Roloson can’t get any bonuses in his contract. Only rookies on entry level deals, or players who are coming off multi-year injuries and have games played incentives qualify. And the latter cases are very rare now.

Can you please define this Jason..?

As per my take on the subject/rule; Since Roli is over 35yrs old & as long as he does not sign a multi-year deal & signs just a 1yr deal, he then CAN have a performance based SPC.

Thx in advance...

x6

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#41 Ogden Brother
April 23 2009, 01:35PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Ogden Brother wrote: 23 already commited for 2010 with only 5 guys signed. and Toews/Kane/Kieth all up for substantial raises (could be 15 - 18+ for the three of them). Is their ownership group willing to eat a contracts like Huet/Campbell? Some teams might have to eat salary by sending guys the minors, but I don’t see why the Hawks would eat Campbell’s contract. He does a lot for them. As for Kane and Toews it will interesting to see what they get. Second contract for both, and I bet they will go long term deals, that might lower the cap hit…I don’t see either getting more than five right now, and in Toews case does he get four just yet? We will see. They both love it there, so I could see them taking a bit of a home town discount, same for Keith.

Staal just got four, you have to think both Toews and Kane can/will get more. Carter got 5.75 after a 29 goal 53 point performance.

Currently the 2x1st + 2nd + 3rd compensation caps out at 6.5, 1st + 2nd + 3rd caps out at 5.25

Even if the cap goes down 15% after next year (assuming RFA pick compensation is linked to the cap?) it would still only cost 2x1st+2nd+3rd for a $5.2 guy or 1st+2nd+3rd for a $4.65 guy.

I think alot of teams would lay out 2x1st+2nd+3rd for Kane or Toews, I think any team would pay 1st+2nd+3rd for either.

As a side bar, if 4 is questionable for Toews, then shouldn't Gagner/Cogs be coming in at the 2.5 range? If so, lets lock'em up right now.

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#42 Ogden Brother
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Ogden Brother wrote: 23 already commited for 2010 with only 5 guys signed. and Toews/Kane/Kieth all up for substantial raises (could be 15 - 18+ for the three of them). Is their ownership group willing to eat a contracts like Huet/Campbell? Some teams might have to eat salary by sending guys the minors, but I don’t see why the Hawks would eat Campbell’s contract. He does a lot for them. As for Kane and Toews it will interesting to see what they get. Second contract for both, and I bet they will go long term deals, that might lower the cap hit…I don’t see either getting more than five right now, and in Toews case does he get four just yet? We will see. They both love it there, so I could see them taking a bit of a home town discount, same for Keith.

As for the Hawks eating salary (assuming they resign Havlat for call it 5): Even if Kane/Toews/Kieth only average 4 each that would give them 40 million locked up in 9 guys, leaving them 5 - 10 (assuming cap is down) for 11 guys plus spare parts.

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#43 Ogden Brother
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#44 Jason Gregor
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callighenfan wrote:

JG, why do you think Buchberger will be back? His optics aren’t exactly stellar: marginal AHL track record, lousy special teams this year. Why does the organization believe he has value as a coach? From a fan’s perspective, it appears as though he didn’t earn the job in the first place, and hasn’t done anything to alter that perception since.

I guess I wasn't that clear. I suspect Buchberger to remain in the organization, but I'm not clear on exactly what capacity. I do think he might be one of three assistants, but that isn't a guarantee.

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#45 David S
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Wanye, now that you've got the Brownlee contract taken care of, can you please make sure Jason Gregor is locked down too. I don't care what it takes but the last thing we need is for him to go to UFA status and for Lowetide to scoop him with an offer sheet.

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#46 Jason Gregor
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As per my take on the subject/rule; Since Roli is over 35yrs old & as long as he does not sign a multi-year deal & signs just a 1yr deal, he then CAN have a performance based SPC.

On a one year deal he can have incentives, but they still count against the cap, so it wouldn't save them any money.

Signing Roloson for one year would make sense, and I don't think it would require any sort of bonus structure at all. Since he can't get bonuses on a second year deal, the argument about a bonus package becomes moot with Rollie in my opinion, because they could sign him for one year straight up.

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#47 The Menace
April 23 2009, 04:27PM
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callighenfan wrote:

JG, why do you think Buchberger will be back? His optics aren’t exactly stellar: marginal AHL track record, lousy special teams this year. Why does the organization believe he has value as a coach? From a fan’s perspective, it appears as though he didn’t earn the job in the first place, and hasn’t done anything to alter that perception since.

As an Oilers Alumni, he gets to choose when he goes, or gets promoted to a new, made-up position.

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#48 RossCreek
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@ Jason Gregor: What happened to all the Kevin Prendergast talk? Is he now a safe bet to stay? (Yikes!)

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#49 RossCreek
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Ogden Brother wrote:

Carter got 5.75 after a 29 goal 53 point performance.

Correction. Carter's getting 5.0 (not that big of a discrepancy I guess).

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#50 Ogden Brother
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RossCreek wrote:

Ogden Brother wrote: Carter got 5.75 after a 29 goal 53 point performance. Correction. Carter’s getting 5.0 (not that big of a discrepancy I guess).

My bad. Point still stands though. two .5 PPG - .6PPG seasons followed by 29/53 gets you 5 five in a rising cap market you have to think Toews and Kane can seak at least that.

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