More talk on texting

Jason Gregor
April 03 2009 11:36AM

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After watching and listening to Kevin Lowe’s comments last night, it is clear to me that change within the organization is coming. The Oilers played one of their better games of the season last night, yet they still lost, and coupled with the Blues and Ducks’ victories, it is clear that the off-season will start April 12th for the Oilers, and that the changes will follow soon after.

Lowe didn’t state once that his coach would be here next year. He didn’t say he wouldn’t be, but the fact there was no, “Craig will be here without a doubt”, type statement to me it is clear that there will be a change behind the bench.

Lowe’s opening statement actually made a lot of sense

“Daryl is an extremely passionate and emotional about the game. He said he was extremely disappointed and somewhat frustrated that we are in the middle of a playoff race and all the discussion and the focus was on the future of our head coach. He found that odd and he wanted to suppress that once and for all.”

The Owner cares about the team. We know that. He has admitted he is a true fan, and will continue to be one. He is also very respectful of both Lowe and MacTavish. I can understand if he was pissed that before another must win game, the talk was about whether the coach would be here next year or not and not the actual game. That is not the message the host broadcaster should be saying. Fine. Understandable.

The organization will not drag their coach through the mud. They won’t have him be Dead Coach Walking for the final four games of the season. I get that. We all know there has to be a change behind the bench, but Katz wants his coach to leave with some dignity. The problem is that one simple text has now thrown more attention on the coaching situation than ever before. His one sentence text did the exact opposite of what he wanted; reduce the focus on MacTavish.

Most of us have regretted sending that drunken, late-night text to an ex. At one in the morning it seems like a great idea, but the next day when she thinks you are back together and making you breakfast, you slap yourself muttering…”What was I thinking?” Texting, while convenient, allows many of us to say things too quickly, especially guys. The consequences of our actions are an after thought, or most times we don’t even calculate what they will be.

This is what happened to Katz. It just confirms he is human like the rest of us.

The difference is when we send a ill-advised late night text it effects one or two, or maybe three people on a good night..haha. Katz’s text resonates across an entire city; a city that is frustrated and fed up with another spring without playoffs. Of course the fans and media are going to talk about the coach’s future. It is a hot topic and one that was, in fact, brought to light by MacTavish himself earlier this week.

The winds of change are in the air, and while every player, coach, manager and owner has to believe they can still get to the dance, the fact is they won’t. No one in Edmonton wants their playoff fix to come solely from other cities and through the TV. Even those who oppose a new rink get caught up with playoff fever when it grips a city.

I respect that Mr. Katz didn’t want his coach to suffer through talk about his future while the team still has a mathematical chance of making the postseason. Having a boss that wants to shelter an employee is refreshing, but his text backfired.

Now, after another loss, all the focus will be on change

And there will be changes. I will be stunned if MacTavish doesn’t resign. Every level of the organization will be evaluated this summer, and there will be changes in the scouting department, coaching and on the ice. Their scouting needs to improve. A new voice is needed behind the bench, and some veterans and even a youngster or two will be moved.

It is inevitable, especially when you are one of the highest spending teams, but have missed the playoffs three years running. If the owner doesn’t want it talked about until the team is officially eliminated, that shows he isn’t a quitter, however, as we have all experienced ourselves, an ill-timed text can fuel a fire much quicker than an actual conversation.

As another disappointing season wraps up we look ahead to what will surely be the biggest summer of change in the OilersNation in a long time. If you don’t believe me, ask Brownlee, we exchanged texts this morning.

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One of Canada's most versatile sports personalities. Jason hosts The Jason Gregor Show, weekdays from 2 to 6 p.m., on TSN 1260, and he writes a column every Monday in the Edmonton Journal. You can follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/JasonGregor
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#1 Rob
April 03 2009, 11:46AM
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You have this way of wording things that makes me a little more relaxed in a tense situation. Good on you Gregor!.

What youngsters do you think will be traded this summer?

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#2 Ogden Brother
April 03 2009, 11:47AM
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Gregory, I'm in next year mode so I want to throw out a few names that seem like they may be availble, that could fit/help the team... if you could humour me and let me know if you think any of them have a chance...

Horton Vokoun J Staal Bergeron (boston)

And as long shots

Spezza Heatly Kovalchuk

For UFA's and a one year band aid

Guerin

tx's

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#3 RossCreek
April 03 2009, 11:49AM
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Hey Brownlee, do you think this will be the biggest summer of change?

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#4 RossCreek
April 03 2009, 11:49AM
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LOL...i know...i'm way too funny

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#5 mjsh
April 03 2009, 11:53AM
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I agree that Mac T will resign. I bet this has been his most frustrating season ever. A team that looks like it has talent but not enough effort and far too many mistakes. Turnovers, bad line changes, things that should rarely happen, happen frequently with the Oilers.

Lack of effort, mental mistakes are not products of bad coaching but products of players who do not have their head or heart in their jobs. I am a sales manager in a car dealership who has to deal with staff who are not motivated on a daily basis. Sometimes the only answer is to change the staff.

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#6 Archaeologuy
April 03 2009, 11:54AM
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I want to believe you Gregor, but I just started on some new medicine I got from a Rexall Pharmacy and every time I think about who will coach the team my ears start to bleed. So instead of questioning the team anymore I will simply watch the games and buy the paraphenalia. Whenever I have an original thought I will check with Dan Tencer or whomever is posting on the Oiler's official website and if it doesnt fit I will forget all about it.

And when the Oilers have won their 5th straight division title with an 82-0 record I will. Until then my ears can continue to bleed.

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#7 Rick
April 03 2009, 11:57AM
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The "biggest summer of change" line is starting to ring as hollow as the "this is the year we take a step forward" line trotted out each October.

It's been used 3 springs in a row.

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#8 swany
April 03 2009, 11:57AM
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Gregor I sent this to Bryn this morning, I think Katz reacted the way he did because after all the statment from our G.M. that Mact wasn't going anywhere, the statments from Lowe that Mact was safe, all the Oilers brass telling everyone to get over it that didn't happen. Katz thought that one statment from him reafferming what Tambelli, and Lowe already have said would put this to rest. Katz was right in his assesment because THEY won't fire him so it was safe for him to say Mact isn't going anywhere (until he resigns).

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#9 AlBundy
April 03 2009, 12:00PM
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Great piece JG. Here are some of my thoughts:

1. the pregame show that Bob does. Bob is an employee of Katz right? So if Katz says to shut up about MacT, he has to do it. The pregame show I think did not have caller call in it was just Bob and Dan. Thus, the owner who pays Bob and Dan told them to shut up cause they are the ones who brought this up. Why Katz would agree to let Bob read his text on air makes no sense unless Katz thinks fans will actually listen and believe him, NO WAY as per all the feedback. Katz is learning a lesson on owning a hockey team that underperforms.

2. KLOWE press conference. Wow, that was something else, he looked like a dear in the headlights. He said nothing really.

3. Tambo, does anyone really know what the structure is. I feel sorry for him, I think he is a good hockey man but he is being run over by KLOWE.

4. Bob MacKenzie on the morning show on 1260 TEAM said it is stated around the league that there are problems in the dressing room between the veterans and the young players. WOW, this is known around the league?????? This CANNOT be good but might explain why they play the way they do.

5. If this is true, I believe the Captain has to take 90%+ responsibility for this. Not a good situation.

6. I still can't believe the dressing issue is known around the league.

7. Do Brian Burke's comments now seem that far out of line?

What a day. What is lost is the game. Oil played well but are not out of it. Rest Roli and let's see what the kid's got, do you agree?

Sad day from a guy who dumped his girlfriend to watch the Flyers get destroyed by the Oilers and win the Cup, again.

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#10 swany
April 03 2009, 12:06PM
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Do we all really care who the coach is if Mact comes back and the Oil are in the top 4 next year will there be anybody calling for his head, on the other side what if we get a new coach and the results are the same do we start wanting his head? Like I said i don't care if Greor is the coach as long as we win.

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#11 Jonathan Willis
April 03 2009, 12:08PM
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As another disappointing season wraps up we look ahead to what will surely be the biggest summer of change in the OilersNation in a long time. If you don’t believe me, ask Brownlee, we exchanged texts this morning.

Biggest summer of change since 2006 - when Pronger, Dvorak, Peca, Spacek, Samsonov, Ulanov, Tarnstrom and Conklin all left town?

Or since 2007, which saw the departure of Sykora, Lupul, Tjarnqvist, Smith, Nedved, Hejda, Winchester and Markkanen following the trade deadline departures of Smyth and Bergeron?

Or since last summer, where Stoll, Pitkanen, Reasoner, Glencross, Sanderson, Torres and Greene all departed?

Let's face it - the problems with the Oilers haven't been caused by a lack of change. And this would need to be a very busy summer to overshadow the previous three.

The problems have been caused by a) developing youth and b) the wrong kind of change more than anything else.

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#12 Jonathan Willis
April 03 2009, 12:09PM
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AlBundy wrote:

2. KLOWE press conference. Wow, that was something else, he looked like a dear in the headlights. He said nothing really.

And now we all know who Bundy has a crush on - "dear" Kevin Lowe ;)

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#13 Sandra
April 03 2009, 12:13PM
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@ AlBundy: Right on the money, mow the question for the offseason on April 12. DOes Bob get the promotion to Rods job or do they get a new voice out of Toronto? and Dan Tencer? I guess there are other radio stations in edm, maybe 1260? or does he go TV? It was nice to finally have them on 'Our" (the fans)side for a change and not say MacT is a great coach with 20% responsibility to motivate the players.

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#14 Archaeologuy
April 03 2009, 12:14PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

AlBundy wrote: 2. KLOWE press conference. Wow, that was something else, he looked like a dear in the headlights. He said nothing really. And now we all know who Bundy has a crush on - “dear” Kevin Lowe

Willis, you wield grammar and syntax like a knife in the dark back alleys of Oilers Nation.

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#15 swany
April 03 2009, 12:20PM
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RB what's the scoop, what changes TEXT me HAHAHAHA.

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#16 swany
April 03 2009, 12:23PM
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Gregor that goalie everyone is comparing to Lunquist (sp) is he Oilers property or a UFA.

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#17 Librarian Mike
April 03 2009, 12:25PM
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Man, Rambo is SHORT.

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#18 FlamesFan
April 03 2009, 12:27PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Jonathan Willis wrote: AlBundy wrote: 2. KLOWE press conference. Wow, that was something else, he looked like a dear in the headlights. He said nothing really. And now we all know who Bundy has a crush on - “dear” Kevin Lowe Willis, you wield grammar and syntax like a knife in the dark back alleys of Oilers Nation.

loooooool

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#19 David S
April 03 2009, 12:43PM
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swany wrote:

Do we all really care who the coach is if Mact comes back and the Oil are in the top 4 next year will there be anybody calling for his head, on the other side what if we get a new coach and the results are the same do we start wanting his head? Like I said i don’t care if Greor is the coach as long as we win.

Gregor as coach of the Oilers. THAT would be interesting. Hmmm...

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#20 offside
April 03 2009, 12:43PM
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Are the Oilers the new Maple Leafs?

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#21 Mike Krushelnyski
April 03 2009, 12:49PM
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swany wrote:

Do we all really care who the coach is if Mact comes back and the Oil are in the top 4 next year will there be anybody calling for his head, on the other side what if we get a new coach and the results are the same do we start wanting his head? Like I said i don’t care if Greor is the coach as long as we win.

Yes, exactly. Coaching success is measured by results, that's why we want ours gone.

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#22 Mike Krushelnyski
April 03 2009, 12:50PM
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@ offside:

The Leafs' cup drought is longer than the Oilers' existence so I'd say we've got a ways to go

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#23 Librarian Mike
April 03 2009, 12:55PM
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@ Mike Krushelnyski:

That is true, but with every celebration of the past that this team holds, I can't help but feel that it brings us a little closer to being a Leafs-like team. That said, there is a line in the sand and it will be crossed if/when #16 goes up into the rafters.

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#24 shakey
April 03 2009, 01:01PM
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Librarian Mike wrote:

That said, there is a line in the sand and it will be crossed if/when #16 goes up into the rafters

Pat Hughes deserves your respect and the respect of all Oiler fans!

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#25 swany
April 03 2009, 01:06PM
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Mike Krushelnyski wrote:

Yes, exactly. Coaching success is measured by results, that’s why we want ours gone.

Agreed but what happens with the new coach when the results are the same or maybe worse, answer that one.

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#26 Jason Gregor
April 03 2009, 01:06PM
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Ogden Brother wrote:

Gregory, I’m in next year mode so I want to throw out a few names that seem like they may be availble, that could fit/help the team… if you could humour me and let me know if you think any of them have a chance… Horton Vokoun J Staal Bergeron (boston) And as long shots Spezza Heatly Kovalchuk For UFA’s and a one year band aid Guerin tx’s

Kovalchuk could be Marian Hossa circa 2008. He will be a UFA next summer, and if Atlanta can't extend him during the season, he will be trade bait around the deadline. But doubtful before then.

Spezza and Heatley aren't available. The like their new coach, Cory Clouston.

Florida will loose J-Bo, so will they want to trade away another big name? Horton has hinted in the past he isn't happy, but he is a pretty good salary at 4 mil cap hit, and signed for another four seasons.

Vokoun has a no movement clause, and at $5.7 the Oilers don't have the money to acquire him unless they can unload a big ticket the other way.

Staal is attractive and he is what the Oilers need, size down the middle. He starts his new four-year 16 million dollar deal next season. His age, and size makes me wonder why they would deal him.

He might be available before the 2010/2011 season when the cap goes down, because the Pens have $37+ million for only ten players already for 2010. Problem is the Oilers are in no shape to take on any salary at this point for the 2010/2011 season.

They might have to trade some salary for picks just to get in a better cap situation.

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#27 SquidRx
April 03 2009, 01:09PM
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@ Jason Gregor: Stick a fork in them Jerry

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#28 Jason Gregor
April 03 2009, 01:11PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Biggest summer of change since 2006 - when Pronger, Dvorak, Peca, Spacek, Samsonov, Ulanov, Tarnstrom and Conklin all left town? Or since 2007, which saw the departure of Sykora, Lupul, Tjarnqvist, Smith, Nedved, Hejda, Winchester and Markkanen following the trade deadline departures of Smyth and Bergeron? Or since last summer, where Stoll, Pitkanen, Reasoner, Glencross, Sanderson, Torres and Greene all departed?

You mentioned players Jonathon, clearly you didn't understand that the changes won't just be on the ice. There will be changes to the scouting and other departments within the team. A shake up is coming. Every team has fourto seven new players a season. That isn't the change I was talking about.

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#29 SquidRx
April 03 2009, 01:12PM
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Do you think that Mr. Katz has a plan that includes texting, or did that text cost him $.15?

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#30 Homie
April 03 2009, 01:17PM
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David S wrote:

swany wrote: Do we all really care who the coach is if Mact comes back and the Oil are in the top 4 next year will there be anybody calling for his head, on the other side what if we get a new coach and the results are the same do we start wanting his head? Like I said i don’t care if Greor is the coach as long as we win. Gregor as coach of the Oilers. THAT would be interesting. Hmmm…

Having played hockey with Gregor, both when we were considerably younger and a couple years of summer men's league when he felt that he was the unofficial Reg Dunlop of the team, the Oil could set a record for the team quickest to be eliminated from the playoff contention. Can you be eliminated before Christmas? :)

Good article Gregs. I think we've seen a lot of player changes the last few years, but it seems like we may see more structural changes in the organization to address deficiencies in scouting and coaching, as well as setting out and communicating to the public what the roles and responsibilities are in the organization, particularly those that are high profile and in the public eye. For example, where does Lowe's responsibility end and Tambellini's start?

Its clear through comments in the press from Moreau, Horcoff, Gagner, Cogliano et al. that there is a problem with culture around this team. The Moreau haters will say this problem should fall on his shoulders, but if the problem is serious it should fall onto everyone in the organization. The solution is not to give the C to Souray and thinking that will solve the problem, but to look at leadership and accountability from top to bottom starting with Katz.

Katz is a smart business man and will undoubtedly do what is required to get the best possible team on the ice. And he'll have to because the recession is going to make fans more fickle with their discretionary spending. In the past few years, people could afford hockey tickets AND movie tickets AND golf memberships AND kids activities etc. The full houses that the organization may have taken for granted are going to be harder to come by especially if the team continues its below average play and results.

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#31 BarryS
April 03 2009, 01:20PM
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This years team was built (?) under the old regime. The new Owner came in too late for any realistic changes to be brought about before this summer. The foolishness of wasting last summer trying to make a big splash on a single player instead of dealing with the backlog of problems from the previous post Pocklington area. I am perfectly happy with the gang of 39 or whatever, but in the end they did not have the resources to do anything but keep a sort of competitive team here. There are twenty years of day to day management to be gotten over and any one who thinks it can be done in one summer is fooling themselves. It is true certain players benefited from a series of unfortunate events, Smyth, Pronger, etc., etc. and it will be several years before real changes in organization direction will be made and running off all the current management will only make things worse. I expect Lowe and Tambellini will stay. The coach is a minor matter at the moment, there are bigger problems to solve for the moment, what with the rapid expansion of Rexal Sports, building a real farm team, finding better players. Running a organization owned by single owner than one run by a committee involves a major reorientation in thinking and way things are done. Hint, think working in a one owner business where decisions get made instantly, if not always correctly, and then getting a government job where decisions, even wrong ones, take forever.

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#32 Jonathan Willis
April 03 2009, 01:27PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

There will be changes to the scouting and other departments within the team. A shake up is coming. Every team has fourto seven new players a season. That isn’t the change I was talking about.

Is Prendergast in any trouble given the crap seasons in Springfield the last two years?

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#33 Dennis
April 03 2009, 01:30PM
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JW is like a younger and balder me and he gets to all my points before I do;)

In any case, let's see what happens before we strip naked in the streets and dance to the tunes of the "Summer of change."

It's like the kid said, there's been changes for a long time now.

So, what are we going to change? Are you we going to dismantle that Red Wings model of MGMT that Stauffer keeps talking about us building?:D

Are we gonna turf Tambellini and finally admit that he was a puppet?

Hey, the thing that needs to be done first and foremost is get Kevin Lowe the shag away from the keys.

It won't kill me to see MacT go because he's dug in his heels on some things this year that make me think he's being petulant or he's just burned out. For instance, our play at EV is fine - it's good enough to make the playoffs - and our PP's even good enough to take us there. But the PK's horrible and the approach never changes and Roli's running on fumes and here we are.

But, I'd like to see a roster that Had another guy that could win a faceoff or kill a penalty and then where would we be.

But, for all the changes, nothing will really change as long as old Vish Throttler- Kevin Lowe - continues to be at the helm and strutting around like she's Sam Pollock.

On the positive note, it was nice to see the local press grow some balls today! I was pleased reading Barnes and Jones take some nice little jabs. Hopefully that's the start of a return to objective journalism.

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#34 Rick
April 03 2009, 01:31PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

You mentioned players Jonathon, clearly you didn’t understand that the changes won’t just be on the ice. There will be changes to the scouting and other departments within the team. A shake up is coming. Every team has fourto seven new players a season. That isn’t the change I was talking about.

I don't know if this your speculation or if you have an inside track on what to expect but what do you see as the end result of these changes?

This team was 'built' with a long standing philosophy (hold the laughter to a dull roar please) in mind.

If the changes are going to be really significant does that mean we get to look forward to a tear down and re-build as the organization changes direction?

It would kinda make the last few years of misery completely worthless.

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#35 Ogden Brother
April 03 2009, 01:33PM
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@ Jason Gregor:

Thanks for the info, my line of thinking was:

Florida may want a PMD to replace Bow, so either Gilbert/Vis

And like you said, Horton (supposedly wanting out) so possibly one of O'Sullivan/Cogs/Gilbert for Horton. Or to make a blockbuster (...and to save Florida some $$$ assuming they are comfortable with Anderson)

Possibly something centerd around one of Vis/Gilbert + one of Cogs/O'Sullivan for Horton/Vokoun

I was thinking Pits might want to spread their wealth a little ie get some wingers... though with Kunitz and if Guerin sticks around that isn't such a concern. O'Sullivan would look pretty slick on Crosby's wing... Staal would be an excellent 2nd line center here.

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#36 Charlie
April 03 2009, 01:40PM
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Goddamit!!! There's a week left in the season until all the bandwagon jumping Flames fans down here in Southern AB ;along with the lesser of two evils, New Canucks fans who have no idea who Odjick, Ronning, and Courtnall were and think they've already won four cups, ALL of these fans get to watch their teams in the playoffs. Oilers fans? We get trade rumours, excuses, stub hub tickets for over twice the face value, $7 beers, and THAT'S IT. Oh there have been moments of brilliance with this team, but like every other Oilers team in the last 9 years, they haven't shown up every game. There seems to be little foresight from management. So what now? Try to find a goalie, bring up Eberle and that little Swede beauty and rebulid with the veterans we have now? Give Souray the C and go shop for a goalie? Oh god the Jay-Bo rumours are going to be flying too.

"Well if the Oilers move Vish's salary along with Moreau and Staios getting traded or bought out, and Penner getting back into shape, and Roli becoming the goaltender coach, and........."

I'm over it. I want playoffs, not arm chair GMs. I will cheer my heart out for this team until the final seconds tick down in Calgary nine days from now. Than I'll wait for them to impress me. Real results that should warrant me paying as much as I do for a product that fails every year. Say what you want, by next Gretzmas there had better be a playoff hungry team up there, with coaching and management lighting a fire under their asses.

Go Oilers.... and after April 12th, I guess Caps.

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#37 Ogden Brother
April 03 2009, 01:40PM
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Rick wrote:

Jason Gregor wrote: You mentioned players Jonathon, clearly you didn’t understand that the changes won’t just be on the ice. There will be changes to the scouting and other departments within the team. A shake up is coming. Every team has fourto seven new players a season. That isn’t the change I was talking about. I don’t know if this your speculation or if you have an inside track on what to expect but what do you see as the end result of these changes? This team was ‘built’ with a long standing philosophy (hold the laughter to a dull roar please) in mind. If the changes are going to be really significant does that mean we get to look forward to a tear down and re-build as the organization changes direction? It would kinda make the last few years of misery completely worthless.

I'm not sure why people think we need to blow it up again, realistically we are in year 2 of the post Pronger/Smyth rebuild... other then the Flyers a few years ago, I can't think of many teams that rebuilt in a season (they were also aided by Carter/Richards both finding their games last year... wich would have been the equivalent to Cogs/Gagner putting up 140 points betweent them this year).

Swap some small youth for some big youth and some PMD's for some shutdown and we'll be close.

This team moves up the standings with the emergence of Cogs/Gagner.... that's really the only way.

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#38 Jason Gregor
April 03 2009, 01:43PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Is Prendergast in any trouble given the crap seasons in Springfield the last two years?

In a word yes. You heard it here first. Don't be surprised if he takes the fall. He is not the sole reason for the disappointment in Springfield or the failure of draft picks (because every team has failures at the draft table) but he lots of say in both departments.

This next bit is pure speculation on my part, but I wonder if he is a bit miffed that he didn't get Tambellini's GM post this past summer. KP has been in the organization a long time, and I'll bet he would have liked that opportunity.

But when you look at positions that need changing in this organization, he is one.

Dennis wrote:

For instance, our play at EV is fine - it’s good enough to make the playoffs - and our PP’s even good enough to take us there. But the PK’s horrible and the approach never changes and Roli’s running on fumes and here we are.

Dennis their PK and PP are both 28th at home this year. How is the PP any better? Their home record and special teams are the MAIN reason they aren't in the playoffs.

You are right that their PK system hasn't adapted during the year, but their PP hasn't either. They still never employ anybody in the low or high slot.

We can all debate about energy, consistency, leadership, etc...but after all is said and done their special teams is the main reason why they are in a position to get a top 10 draft choice.

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#39 Rick
April 03 2009, 01:48PM
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I’m not sure why people think we need to blow it up again, realistically we are in year 2 of the post Pronger/Smyth rebuild… other then the Flyers a few years ago, I can’t think of many teams that rebuilt in a season (they were also aided by Carter/Richards both finding their games last year… wich would have been the equivalent to Cogs/Gagner putting up 140 points betweent them this year). Swap some small youth for some big youth and some PMD’s for some shutdown and we’ll be close. This team moves up the standings with the emergence of Cogs/Gagner…. that’s really the only way.

I'm not suggesting that they need to blow it up, I was asking if the changes that Gregor expects or has heard will result in that.

Frankly I don't have the appetite to see this team start over. I think there are alot of very salvageable pieces here.

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April 03 2009, 01:52PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

You heard it here first. Don’t be surprised if he takes the fall.

Well if that is the kind of change that can be expected then it doesn't exactly do much for next year's edition.

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#41 SquidRx
April 03 2009, 01:57PM
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Dennis wrote:

On the positive note, it was nice to see the local press grow some balls today! I was pleased reading Barnes and Jones take some nice little jabs. Hopefully that’s the start of a return to objective journalism.

Although I don't agree with all your thoughts, the post was tollerable, but you just couldn't avoid laying the boot to this dead horse could you? Just go ahead and keep licking the peanut butter off the mouse trap. It's fun for the rest of us to watch.

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#42 Amber
April 03 2009, 01:59PM
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Do you think that Mr. Katz has a plan that includes texting, or did that text cost him $.15?

I think he's on a My 5 plan. He has unlimited texting. I mean, I know the man wipes his arse with $100 bills but he is still frugal where it counts.

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#43 Jonathan Willis
April 03 2009, 02:02PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

In a word yes. You heard it here first. Don’t be surprised if he takes the fall.

Wow.

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#44 SquidRx
April 03 2009, 02:05PM
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@ Amber: Yeah, you're right. That makes sense. Who do you think his 5 are?

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#45 FlamesFan
April 03 2009, 02:09PM
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Maybe the problem here is not mac t , fire huddy and moores and bucky. get him a load of fresh new recruits haha.

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#46 Dennis
April 03 2009, 02:18PM
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@ SquidRx:

I'm glad you approved, bud! The whole time i was typing that response, I was hoping that it would please you. Regarding the peanut butter - which is good for your heart BTW:) - there's no one here that can "trap" me, if that's what your alluding to:) And certainly not the guy you're probably referring to:D

Anyway, it's not a dead horse because the media have been taking it for so long that it's obvious to anyone that wants to see it.

I posted what I thought was improvement today just to show I was fair.

If today's fare could be considered typical, you'd hear nary a peep from me about the media; objectivity wouldn't be an issue.

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#47 Jack "FMNF" Bauer
April 03 2009, 02:19PM
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@ FlamesFan:

The whole management needs to be blown up and started from scratch. This team has an auroa of being losers and deadbeats. Its the reason why we can throw all the millions at the world at a guy and yet theyll take 4 million less for another team. Its hard for me to fully judge since im not in the league, but I cant imagine the teams reputation is very good throughout the league.

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#48 Archaeologuy
April 03 2009, 02:20PM
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@ Amber: Yeah, you’re right. That makes sense. Who do you think his 5 are?

Tony Stark, Dr. Doom, Lex Luthor, Professor X, and Craig MacTavish

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#49 Jack "FMNF" Bauer
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@ Dennis:

Your as bad as Deep Oil and his constant year long crusade about Katz and Mackesson. Give it a rest. Post something new.

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#50 JB
April 03 2009, 02:21PM
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Whoa! Check out Marc Spector carving the owner on Sportsnet. So that explains the unexplainable Horcoff contract. Great.

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