Armchair GM IV: The Peanut Gallery

Robin Brownlee
May 07 2009 01:04PM

Steve Tambellini has some thinking to do

So, if you woke up this morning and you were Edmonton Oilers GM Steve Tambellini, what would your list of things-to-do look like? And, no, checking your bank statement doesn't count.

From hiring a new coach to filling holes and addressing needs on the roster after a third straight season out of the playoffs, Tambellini's got his work cut out, and there's no shortage of opinions on what he should do.

Given Tambellini's stated desire of icing a bigger, grittier team and a handful of obvious needs -- a proven top-six forward, a defensive-minded centre who can win face-offs and kill penalties and a shutdown defenceman, not to mention hiring a bench boss who can pull it all together -- let's throw around some scenarios with you in the GM's chair.

Like Tambellini, you'll have to keep in mind salary cap space and the fact that no matter which way you go, people will piss and moan. The bottom line is you'd better please Daryl Katz, who signs the cheques, because he's just sent you a text that reads: "Steve, if we miss the playoffs in 2009-10, I'm firing your ass. Got it? Regards, D."

Let's begin.

The back end

1. You've decided to shop Tom Gilbert in the hope of acquiring a top six forward. Coming off a 45-point season, Gilbert's got some cachet and you've got the bases covered in terms of offensive depth with Sheldon Souray, Lubomir Visnovsky and Denis Grebeshkov, once he signs the fat RFA offer you've got sitting on your desk.

-- The Buffalo Sabres offer Derek Roy.

-- The Philadelphia Flyers offer Scott Hartnell.

-- The Florida Panthers offer Nathan Horton.

Which deal do you take?

2. You've taken one of the above three players for Gilbert and you're getting ready to present your offer to Grebeshkov. Before you do, you get a fax from head office that says Toronto GM Brian Burke has tendered on offer sheet on Grebeshkov that's worth $16 million over four years.

After you change trousers and wipe your ass, do you match it? Do you send some guy named Bruno to see Burke?

3. The Los Angeles Kings offer a do-over on last summer's trade: they'll send you Jarret Stoll and Matt Greene for Visnovsky. Knowing what you know now, do you make that deal?

The Seven Dwarves

1. Unless Snow White has jumped to the top of the short-list of coaching candidates, the need to get bigger up front to complement Ales Hemsky and Sam Gagner is the most pressing, so you're listening to offers for Patrick O'Sullivan and Andrew Cogliano.

-- Tampa Bay offers Ryan Malone for O'Sullivan.

-- Chicago offers Dustin Byfuglien for O'Sullivan.

-- Dallas offers Steve Ott for Cogliano.

Which deal do you take?

2. You've got $10 million to spend. Do you offer UFA Ales Kotalik a new deal for three years or do you send Darcy Regier into spasms by tendering an offer sheet on RFA Drew Stafford for four years at $10 million?

3. If not Stafford, would that offer sheet be better spent on Tuomo Ruutu of Carolina or Travis Zajac of New Jersey?

Money Talks

1. You've got some dollars for a UFA burning a hole in your pocket -- we know how uncomfortable that can be -- and you've decided to throw some of it around. Who's the best target?

-- Mike Komisarek.

-- Francois Beauchemin

-- Manny Malhotra

-- Scott Clemmensen

2. Dwayne Roloson tells you he'll re-sign for $4 million over two years. Do you give him the extra season he wants or do you say, "Thanks, and good luck in Philadelphia?"

3. Nashville wants more skill and you want more grit. The Predators offer you pugnacious and noted serial-charger Jordin Tootoo for sometimes-slacker Robert Nilsson. Do you make that trade?

Dazed and Confused

You fall down the stairs and hit your head. You decide that none of the above small potatoes matter unless you can land a BIG name player to throw on the marquee at Rexall Place. Money, at least to the cap limit, is no object. Which makes the most sense?

1. Buy out the final year of Jaromir Jagr's contract with Omsk for $3 million and give the 38-year-old future hall-of-famer a two-year contract worth $10 million, for a total cost of $13 million.

2. Re-visit the Marian Hossa sweepstakes.

3. Trade one-third of the roster to free up enough cap space to acquire the inseparable UFA tandem of Daniel and Henrik Sedin to play with Hemsky.

4. Let your head clear.

-- Listen to Robin Brownlee every Thursday from 4 to 6 p.m. on Just A Game with Jason Gregor on TEAM 1260.

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#1 sittingatmydesk
May 07 2009, 01:13PM
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i'd take Nathan Horton for gilbert, match Denis Grebeshkov offer sheet,take Ryan Malone for O’Sullivan Jordin Tootoo for Robert Nilsson. sign Manny Malhotra, say to roli "Thanks, and good luck in Philadelphia" and sign an offer sheet on Travis Zajac of New Jersey.. but then again, im not the GM... lots of work, tambo....better start soon

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#2 sittingatmydesk
May 07 2009, 01:14PM
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and if we can get Manny Malhotra, how about Jay Clemant from the blues?

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#3 jayoilfan
May 07 2009, 01:22PM
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Wow, some pretty funk junk is happening in your head RB, do you just sit there all day and think this stuff up. Very interesting to say the least and when you put it the eway you have I do not want to be Tambellini. Food for thought as they say. I think I'd do the Gilbert for Horton and the Byfuglien for O'sullivan. The others I'd have to think really hard for. Burke would do that with Grebeshkov wouldn't he... meanie.

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#4 Rick
May 07 2009, 01:23PM
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Remind us again what the compensation is for a $4 mil / year RFA offer sheet.

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#5 Jonathan Willis
May 07 2009, 01:25PM
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Rick wrote:

Remind us again what the compensation is for a $4 mil / year RFA offer sheet.

A 1st, 2nd and 3rd.

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#6 Harlie
May 07 2009, 01:30PM
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I'd be all over the Dustin Byfuglin for O'Sulivan deal. Make it happen Tambellini!

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#7 sittingatmydesk
May 07 2009, 01:33PM
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@ Harlie:I’d be all over the Dustin Byfuglin for O’Sulivan deal. He's overrated, he's like a penner with more grit...imnot sure if he can score on a consistent basis...

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#8 Death Metal Nightmare
May 07 2009, 01:35PM
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- the safe play is Gilbert for Roy but i can see Horton being the popular choice also.

- Burke putting an offer sheet on Grebs with how much Toronto needs to re-stock their prospects would probably get his balls cut off.

- keep Lubo. 100% right choice.

- the player i want the most out of the small potatoes is Ott.

- Mike Komisarek all the way. hitting/shot blocking machine who could use being around a tougher team.

- getting Tootoo for Nilsson is like sending the Preds a nicely wrapped present with a huge turd inside.

- i cant see Malone or Byfuglien going straight up for O'Sullivan. maybe thats just me. id have to take Malone though.

- Roloson is a gamer and easily has 2 years left at his compete level and low-impact total career. keep him at that price.

- Hossa OR Jagr. Hossa first, Jagr second. if this team doesnt build a core for Hemsky (which in turn improves everyone elses game and takes off pressure) his contract becomes a waste of time and you basically crap on your best player not getting him anyone to play with. its about as bad as when the Packers gave Favre Donald Driver and his second option was Antonio Chapman. Hemsky isnt even working with that.

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#9 Mike Krushelnyski
May 07 2009, 01:36PM
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I take Hartnell for Gilbert, say thank you very much to Burke for the picks, turn around and offer the money I was going to give Grebeshkov to Komisarek. I deal O'Sullivan for Byfuglien and there you go, back end is not as skilled but is much nastier. Then I say no to the Kings on giving back Visnovsky because I just dealt Gilbert and Grebeshkov. I make the offer sheet to Ruutu to replace O'Sullivan.

I tell Roli thanks and good luck in Philly, and I take Tootoo for Nilsson in a heartbeat. It's probably not realistic to get Hossa in under the cap so I go after Jagr but try for 1 year plus an option rather than 2.

The biggest problem left is goaltending and without much money to fix it, I try to get Clemmensen on the cheap and hope and pray that JDD can play a solid 25-30 games.

Yeah...GM is tough, good luck with that, Tambo.

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#10 RBK
May 07 2009, 01:38PM
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Steve Ott would be a FANTASTIC fit out of Dallas.

Pass on Jagr and Hossa altogether and keep your UFA loot for someone who is in the prime of their career and will be with the team for the next 6 years.

Keep Roloson - try and trade for one of these shady European Goalies that seem to be everywhere but EDM

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#11 The Towel Boy
May 07 2009, 01:42PM
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Yeesh. I'm glad I'm not Tambo.

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#12 Mike Krushelnyski
May 07 2009, 01:44PM
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@ Mike Krushelnyski:

Damn! I just realized I left my 2nd PP unit with no pointmen!

You guys should be glad I'm not GM

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#13 dragon
May 07 2009, 01:48PM
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Back End: Hartnell, match Grebeshkov, no to trade Lubo 7 Dwarfs: Byfuglien, Stafford, Ruutu Money Talks: Komisarek, yes to Roli, yes to Tootoo Dazed: clear head first. ;-)

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#14 TonyT
May 07 2009, 01:49PM
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If we had any of those options, I'd be pretty optimistic for our Oilers '09. Having said that biggest steal from above is Tootoo for Nilson, I'd take that in a heartbeat!

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#15 Harlie
May 07 2009, 01:50PM
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@ sittingatmydesk:

from what I've seen of Dustin B these playoffs his strength has been his consistency. Big guy with good hands and a strong will. Dustin P has 2 of those traits and I hope a new coach rather than a change of scenery gets Dustin P his will back.

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#16 Tim S
May 07 2009, 01:50PM
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-I take Horton for Gilbert -Let Grebeskov walk -Turn down the redo with LA

-I look to trade Cogliano not for one of the monsters you mentioned but to move up in the draft. I am keeping O'Sullivan.

-Kotalik does not get an offer for me, no offer sheets this year unless I am moving Penner some how in the early off season.

-Nilsson becomes Tootoo' -Roloson does not get a 2 year deal from me -Souray convinces Komisarek to join him in Edmonton.

And finally I go after Hossa first, followed by Gaborik and finally I buy out Jagr's deal if I fail on options 1 and 2.

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#17 Mike Krushelnyski
May 07 2009, 01:56PM
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Jagr-Gagner-Hemsky Hartnell-Horcoff-Cogliano Penner-Ruutu-Moreau Stortini-Brodziak-Tootoo

Souray-Komisarek Visnovsky-Byfuglien Smid-Peckham (Staios died in a fire)

Clemmensen Deslauriers Dubnyk?

I kinda like my fantasy team, this is fun :)

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#18 Jonathan Willis
May 07 2009, 02:07PM
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1. Horton 2. Bruno 3. Visnovsky 4. Pass 5. Malhotra 6. Nikolai Khabibulin 7. Tootoo 8. Bouwmeester

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#19 Oilerguy
May 07 2009, 02:09PM
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Hey Robin, do you think the Oilers will trade Tom Gilbert and which team do you see him getting traded to?

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#20 Yonsy
May 07 2009, 02:17PM
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I would keep Gilbert. Match Grebs. Trade Vishnovsky, even though he is a fantastic d-man. Greene would balance out our d-corps. Stoll would help on special teams, an area that killed us. I don't know how O'Sullivan fits in the lineup but I would move him before Cogliano though because I think Cogs has been somewhat misused and his strength in the face-off circle can only improve. I would take O'Sullivan for Byfuglien. No to an offer sheet. If possible I would go after Clemmensen and Komisarek. Clemmensen gives us the vet goalie(?) until JDD is ready. Komisarek further balances out the d-corps and helps on PK. I take Tootoo for Nilsson. Nilsson might be talented but we need consistency and more grit. I don't take any of the high profile UFA's. I didn't like recent quotes by Jagr that he would want to play on the third line, although he may of been kidding. Due to cap issues I would pass on Hossa. And no way I would take the Sedins for that kind of commitment. I understand the need for a superstar type player to role with Hemsky but I don't know if these are the player(s). Anyway you slice it Tambo has a tough time.

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#21 Yonsy
May 07 2009, 02:20PM
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@ Yonsy: Alright reviewing this I see too many d-men. So in the event you land Komisarek you pass on the O'sullivan deal. Wow too much to consider.

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#22 Bates
May 07 2009, 02:21PM
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I'd take O'Sullivan for Malone assuming Penner PFO's to somewhere, anywhere.

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#23 RossCreek
May 07 2009, 02:23PM
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Willis, you saying you want J-Bo? I thought you were on the other side of that argument, no?

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#24 Ogden Brother
May 07 2009, 02:32PM
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1. Roy would be tempting (Hartnell as well to be honest) gotta go with Horton on that one though. 2. Take TO's picks and run, we'd be likely to get another top 10 pick next year 3. No thanks 4. O'sully for Malone, only if Penner is delt, otherwise the one extra "big body" is enough for now 5. If Grebs is gone for the 1st/2nd/3rd, I would consider an RFA to Ruttu, up to the 1st/3rd compensation limit. 6. MM/Beauch/Clemson would all be great pick-ups 7. No thanks to Rollie for 2 years, one year sure. 8. Nilsson for Tootoo, in a heartbeat 9. Forget the big ticket UFA, take Jagr if he'll come for one year.

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#25 yo
May 07 2009, 02:35PM
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RB - You did have me following right slong with you until you mentioned Byfuglien and Horton. Is there any way Chi or Fla part with either of them? Most everything else has some merit. I worry about the wisdom of keeping so may small players. Gagner, Cogliano and Eberle is coming along too. I assume Nilsson is as good as gone.

Any move(s) on the forward line should have size and edge. I think the change or two on defence should be slong the line of gristle as well. I would probably move Staios, Gilbert and maybe Strudwick in an attempt to get what you want on defence and up front. Did you do any number crunching to see how Tambo might get some of that done?

Given their proximity to the cap and the number of contracts what is realistic? I was thinking that 4-5 changes might represent a reasonable change-over for one year, if they get the right pieces that is. Don't get me wrong Byfuglien and Horton would be a great start.

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#26 Robin Brownlee
May 07 2009, 02:35PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

1. Horton 2. Bruno 3. Visnovsky 4. Pass 5. Malhotra 6. Nikolai Khabibulin 7. Tootoo 8. Bouwmeester

Bruno might also fit as the shutdownm D-man if you can't land Komisarek. And no fudging with Bouwmeester, that's not an option.

Yonsy wrote:

@ Yonsy: Alright reviewing this I see too many d-men. So in the event you land Komisarek you pass on the O’sullivan deal. Wow too much to consider.

That's the thing, one move impacts another and you've got to balance each deal with the big picture. Making one deal on Monday might preclude a better one on Wednesday, but if you sit around waiting, then you lose . . . If it's a headache in the relatively elementary scenarios I've offered, imagine all the fun when offers become two-for-two with draft picks etc etc thrown in.

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#27 Greg MC
May 07 2009, 02:43PM
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Gilbert for Horton (4 mil cap hit signed through 2012-2013 season). I would miss Grebashov, but have to take the picks (first rounder could be a lottery pick). Visnovsky is a gem, no do over. Grab Steve Ott for Cogs, if he can be signed to a contract extension. Kotalik can go lick somewhere else... Tuomo Ruutu please. Mike Komisarek. I would pay Roli. Tootoo for Nilsson in a heartbeat.

Then it's time for my head to clear.

Thanks Robin, Tambo has a hard job!

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#28 Colin
May 07 2009, 02:48PM
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If I was tambo I'd shoot myself, F-this.

I couldn't imagine all the second guessing and what-ifs he must be playing with right now. Not a comfy chair at any rate, I suppose the $$$ makes it a little better tho.

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#29 Jason Gregor
May 07 2009, 02:51PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Rick wrote: Remind us again what the compensation is for a $4 mil / year RFA offer sheet. A 1st, 2nd and 3rd.

JW...I think it might only be a 1st and a 3rd...

When the CBA came out the cap was $39 million... and the compensation was...

$660,000 and below.... NOTHING $660,000 to 1 million... 3rd rounder Over 1 mill to two million... 2nd rounder OVer two to three million.... 1st and 3rd rounder Over three to four million... 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Over four to Five milliion... Two 1sts, a 2nd and 3rd Over Five million... Four firsts.

For every ten percent that the average salary goes up the compensation goes up 10%. In the first year the player average was close to $1.7 million...(just rounding number)

Last year with the Cap over $56...the average player salary was around $2.3 million... That is a 35% increase...meaning the over 3 million to four million would now be over $4 million to five million.

OF course this is rounding of numbers...and it is a fine line, and not 100% exact,but the increase, if it ended at 4 million would mean only a 1st and a 3rd...instead of all three picks. If the offer was OVER 4 million then it would be 1st, 2nd and 3rd...

The summer of 2011 after the year the cap goes down, and the player average does as well, that would be the best time to make an RFA offer, because you wouldn't have to offer as much, nor would the compensation be what it was last summer or even this one...

Man it would be hilarious if the Oilers offered Stafford a deal...just to stir the pot, but I don't see it happening.

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#30 sittingatmydesk
May 07 2009, 02:55PM
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@ Mike Krushelnyski: did you even put into consideration the cap... Byfuglien isint he a forward?

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#31 RossCreek
May 07 2009, 02:56PM
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I know Byfuglien was a defenseman, but has he not primarily played up front in his NHL career? He's similar to Penner. He's having a good playoff, but so did Penner. Given their contract status, obviously I'd take Dustin B, but I'd hold off on thinking he's got a lot more upside than Penner until further review. Big guys like that have a tough time staying in tip top shape. Would Tampa swap Penner for Malone given the dollars they'd save?

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#32 olderthendirt
May 07 2009, 02:56PM
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Grebeshkov a Russian or Gilbert. If I had to move one of them it's bye bye Grebs. Move Cogs and a few years from now everyone will be says, how could you have done that to us. Try to sign Kotalik for less money, no tears if he goes, sign Rollie, these lots of mileage left on that body. Nielson may do great things one day (briefly), elsewhere. Tootoo NONO.

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#33 J.L.
May 07 2009, 03:00PM
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I'd trade Gilbert for Hartnell, match the offer for Grebeshkov, keep Visnovsky, I would consider Ott for Cogliano, no offer sheets, I make a pitch for malhotra, give Roloson a 2 year deal, trade Nilsson for Tootoo, I would talk to Marian Hossa but if he has no interest in signing to a long-term deal that won't cripple me then it won't happen.

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#34 Mike Krushelnyski
May 07 2009, 03:02PM
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@ sittingatmydesk:

I was under the impression that Byfuglien played both. I was considering the cap but it's kind of tough when you're making hypothetical signings.

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#35 Jonathan Willis
May 07 2009, 03:23PM
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@ Jason Gregor:

It's right on the edge; it may very well be only a 1st and a 3rd but I think it just crosses the line. I used the 2008-09 numbers at nhlscap.com

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#36 Jonathan Willis
May 07 2009, 03:25PM
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RossCreek wrote:

Willis, you saying you want J-Bo? I thought you were on the other side of that argument, no?

That was before I traded Gilbert for Horton and sent Bruno to "chastise" Burke for signing Grebeshkov.

Robin Brownlee wrote:

And no fudging with Bouwmeester, that’s not an option.

Then I'll let my head clear.

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#37 jeanshorts
May 07 2009, 03:31PM
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All those possible scenarios gave me a boner AND made my balls hide inside of my body at the same time. It's not a pretty picture down there. Yeesh Tambo sure has a tight rope to walk this summer. Let's hope he can at least keep his head above the water.

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#38 Ogden Brother
May 07 2009, 03:32PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

@ Jason Gregor: It’s right on the edge; it may very well be only a 1st and a 3rd but I think it just crosses the line. I used the 2008-09 numbers at nhlscap.com

Ya, the upper limit for 1/2/3 is 5.3

Amount Compensation Due $863,156 or less None $863,156 - $1,307,811 3rd round pick $1,307,811 - $2,615,623 2nd round pick $2,615,623 - $3,923,434 1st and 3rd round pick $3,923,434 - $5,231,246 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round pick $5,231,246 - $6,539,061 Two 1st's, one 2nd, one 3rd round pick $6,539,061 or more Four 1st round picks

I can't really see salary's dropping so far to bring the upper limit of 1/2/3 to under $4

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#39 MaximusBaggus
May 07 2009, 03:45PM
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No to trading Cogs or O'Sullivan....i'd do nilsson for tootoo in a heartbeat tho...get the disturber we need for a forward whose potential may be lower than cogs or patty o and has also shown much less than either of them....keep vis and dump gibby for horton

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#40 MaximusBaggus
May 07 2009, 03:46PM
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I'd also be willing to bet that there is going to be a lot of offer sheets in the 2nd round range especially for teams that are right up against the cap

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#41 Chris
May 07 2009, 03:47PM
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A real eye-opener for me was in 2008, when the Red Wings were in town trade deadline day to play the Oilers. I remember listening to Stauffer on the radio and he made some comment about how the Red Wings staff took over an entire hotel ballroom, and that there must have been around eighty people present, and extra phones were needed, and so on... And after all that, the only move they made was to pick up Brad Stuart as a depth defenceman from L.A. This funny little anecdote made me wonder about the Oilers management structure such as it was in 07/08 under Kevin Lowe. @ Robin Brownlee: Have the Oilers signifigantly narrowed the gap with the Detroit managemnt machine under Katz's ownership? I know there has been a management review, and restructering last offseason... Your article was super effective in illustrating the sheer complexity of assembling an NHL roster in this day and age. Tambellini's team must compete with the big dogs. Do they have similar rescources at their disposal?

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#42 DBO
May 07 2009, 04:07PM
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Love the thread. Always love the armchair GM stuff.

- I counter the Flyers offer and get Gagne for Gilbert. Saves the Flyers a million (they need Cap relief). - bye bye grebeshkov. - No to the do-over. keep Vish (just let go 2 young dmen) - Take Malone for Cogliano (tampa needs to save money and Cogs is $2 mill cheaper then O'Sullivan) - Kotalik for $2 mill per. He's your 2nd PP QB. - Sign all 4 of those UFA's. Beauchemin ($2.5 mill) is your #4 dman and 2nd PP guy. Malhotra ($2 mill) is your 3C. Komisarek ($4.5 mill) is your #3 dman. Clememson ($2.5 mill) is a better option then Rollie. - Take Tootoo for Nilsson (saves us money) - No need for a top UFA since we have filled our needs -Dump all the unnessary contracts in the minors or buy outs or deals for picks (Moreau/Pisani, Pouliot, Macintyre, Jacques)

Gagne - Horcoff - Hemsky Malone - Gagner - O'Sullivan Penner - Malhotra - Kotalik Tootoo - Brodziak - Pisani/Moreau Stortini

Souray - Beauchemin Vishnovski - Komisarek Staios - Smid Peckham

Clememson JDD

Cap hit is $54.675

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#43 Lofty
May 07 2009, 04:23PM
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Anyone that keeps Grebs is RETARDED Keeping Roli for 2 years is mildly retarded I would love Tootoo to be an oiler... the problem is he would get killed cause none of the boys would back him up.

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#44 BigE57
May 07 2009, 04:23PM
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If you can get a top 3 forward for Gilbert then I would deal him. Otherwise I believe he is a better fit than Grebeshkov.

You don't match anything Brian Burke offers take his draft picks and hope the Grebeshkov is the second coming of Dustin Penner or better yet in LeafLand Eric Lindros.

You stay away from Stoll and Greene. Why would the Oil dream of giving up Vishnovsky he played well till he got hurt.

I'd like to see O'Sullivan get a shot on the second line for the better part of a season, I think he's got the tools to score 25 and give the Oil some quality pp time. But if you've got to move him take Byflugen, in two years he will be unstoppable.

Malholtra. Oilers have enough depth at D.

Give Rollie one year plus an option.

Sell your mothers soul and bring Jagr. I don't think Hossa provides the leadership that the Oil need. Jagr's familiarity and desire to play with Hemsky is a huge plus.

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#45 DBO
May 07 2009, 04:28PM
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A note on the moves/lines I put up above. 1st line = 74 goals, 193 pts, $14.85 mill cap hit 2nd = 58 G, 129 pts, $8 m 3rd = 48 G, 115 pts, $8.25 m 4th = 29 G, 69 pts, $3.75 m

and from last year's lineup we add almost 400 extra hits.

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#46 Cam
May 07 2009, 04:29PM
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I take Roy for Gilbert - LOVE his speed!

I let Burke take Grebs - First overall pic next year would be excellent.

Keep Lubo! He is awesome.

I get Ryan Malone for O'Sullivan, but I keep Cogs.

I sign Roli, but only play him 50 games for pete's sake.

I do not make any offer sheets (we need our draft picks), I do not try to make a splash, and I try to land Komisarek and see what kotalik wants before I decide if I want to sign him.

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#47 misfit
May 07 2009, 04:29PM
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Back End 1. Nathan Horton 2. Match the offer 3. No thanks, I'll keep Visnovsky

7 Dwarves 1. Byfuglien - I don't like any of those moves, but he can play defense as well as forward and is cheaper than Malone. 2. Offer sheet to Stafford 3. Zajac would be better

Money Talks 1. Malhotra (Komisarek if I've nabbed Zajac from the last question) 2. Sign Roli (I don't see another option to sort out the goaltending situation) 3. Make the deal for Tootoo

Dazed and Confused Option 4. The core of this team is good, they just need an opportunity to develop and grow together. There's no reason to go crazy with the roster, but a few smart tweaks and small additions could be all we need.

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#48 ahuoseh
May 07 2009, 05:17PM
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-Trade Nilsson and our first to habs for Halk ( Or Osully and a second) whatever they want -Gilbert + Sully or Nilsson (which ever habs did not want) for Kolvuck(He is a UFA next year so they would do that) Trade Mourou and staios for anything....anything - Sign Jbo 6 for 6.5 Savings in cap space 6 mil - Sign Jagr - Play penner center...He is good on faceoffs if anyone noticed

jagr - Penner - hemmer kolvy - gags - cogs brule - horcs - poutonly pisani - broz - storts

Souray - JBO Lubo - Grebs Smid - Peckam

Halak JDD

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#49 Jason Gregor
May 07 2009, 05:26PM
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Ogden Brother wrote:

Jonathan Willis wrote: @ Jason Gregor: It’s right on the edge; it may very well be only a 1st and a 3rd but I think it just crosses the line. I used the 2008-09 numbers at nhlscap.com Ya, the upper limit for 1/2/3 is 5.3 Amount Compensation Due $863,156 or less None $863,156 - $1,307,811 3rd round pick $1,307,811 - $2,615,623 2nd round pick $2,615,623 - $3,923,434 1st and 3rd round pick $3,923,434 - $5,231,246 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round pick $5,231,246 - $6,539,061 Two 1st’s, one 2nd, one 3rd round pick $6,539,061 or more Four 1st round picks I can’t really see salary’s dropping so far to bring the upper limit of 1/2/3 to under $4

I knew it was close...and after a basic number crunch I was $77,000 dollars off...not bad with guestimating..I still don't see the Oilers making and RFA offer though....

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#50 alphah.
May 07 2009, 05:44PM
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lets just trade everyone on our team for picks and go from there. except Pisani, sign him to a lifetime deal.

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