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Robin Brownlee
June 13 2009 10:01PM

old_time_people_around_radio I enjoy sports talk radio and I'm hardly an impartial party in this town, being a newspaperman who is trying to learn the art of saying something people want to hear after spending most of my career trying to write something they wanted to read.

I began tinkering with the wireless more than 25 years ago while I was in the weekly newspaper biz, then did more while covering the Kamloops Blazers of the WHL in the late-1980s.

Here in Edmonton, my job as beat man covering the Oilers for The Journal and The Sun until 2007 allowed me to occasionally wander into the booth with 630 CHED here and on the road.

I got a break when Bob Stauffer enlisted me as a co-host for his popular drive time show, Total Sports, on TEAM 1260. Later, when the Oilers hired Stauffer to ride shotgun for Rod Phillips with 630 CHED, Jason Gregor was good enough to retain me for Just A Game when it moved to take Stauffer's slot. For that, I'm grateful.

With that little bit of background out of the way, I read with some interest a piece in the Journal today by columnist Dan Barnes outlining TEAM 1260's challenge to attract listeners against the juggernaut that is 630 CHED, the voice of the Oilers and Eskimos.

It hatched an idea. If it's goofy, I'm sure you'll let me know.

OUTSIDE THE BOX

Like I said, I'm not impartial on this. I think it's to the benefit of listeners in town to have two radio stations with strong rosters of sports programming. That's why I'd like to see TEAM 1260 succeed. They provide a balance to the rights holders. Another voice.

That's why I'd like to see their numbers -- more on this below -- get better. I'd like to see them prosper. And, besides, they let me try to impart what I know over the airwaves without scolding me for being, as of now, only OK at it.

Likewise, I happen to think Stauffer played a significant part in providing that balance. Stauffer was the critical voice, the hammer on the TEAM 1260 roster, before, as I put it in an item leading into this season, he "took the hush money" and joined the Oilers.

When I add the two together, I wonder if sports talk radio listeners in this town wouldn't be best served if Stauffer wore two different hats with two different stations.

BY THE NUMBERS

For those who care about the actual numbers, here they are. All are for the demographic of males aged 25-54 over the last six survey books, which date back to January 2008.

TEAM 1260

Morning Drive 6 to 10 a.m. (14 Stations)

(Jan-Feb 2008) 6.4 share (6th) (Mar-Apr 2008 ) 4.2 share (9th) (Jun-Jul 2008 ) 5.5 share (9th) (Sep-Oct 2008) 4.5 share (9th) (Jan-Feb 2009) 3.2 share (10th) (Mar-Apr 2009 ) 1.9 share (10th)

Bottom Line: Yes, the morning show, More On Sports, has taken a dip, but in fairness, the most competitive part of the programming day is the morning the slot. Astral needs to regain a foothold.

Mid-Day 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. (14 Stations)

(Jan-Feb 08) 3.4 share (10th) (Mar-Apr 08) 2.9 share (11th) (Jun-Jul 08) 3.0 share (11th) (Sep-Oct 08) 2.8 share (10th) (Jan-Feb 09) 1.8 share (12th) (Mar-Apr 09) 1.5 share (12th)

Bottom Line: Jim Rome had steady numbers through 2008, but TEAM 1260 switched from ESPN to Fox Radio and the numbers took a hit. Hmmm.

Afternoon Drive 3 p.m. to 7 p.m. (14 Stations)

(Jan-Feb 08) 8.0 share (4th) CHED 3rd with an 11.0 (Mar-Apr 08) 9.7 share (3rd) CHED tied for 8th with 5.2 (Jun-Jul 08) 7.8 share (4th) CHED 6th with 6.5 (Last Stauffer book) (Sep-Oct 08) 5.6 share (8th) CHED 3rd with 9.0 (Jan-Feb 09) 6.3 share (7th) CHED 5th with 7.7 (Mar-Apr 09) 4.2 share (9th) CHED 8th with a 5.7

Bottom Line: Generally speaking for sports stations throughout North America, the afternoon drive shows pull in the best numbers. This is the make or break slot Gregor took over from Stauffer.

Evenings 7 p.m. to midnight (14 Stations)

(Jan-Feb 08)-0.4 share (14th) CHED 1st with an 18.2 (Mar-Apr 08 ) 3.1 share (9th) CHED 1st with a 16.3 (Jun-Jul 08) 5.6 share (6th) CHED 2nd with 10.1 (Last Gregor book) (Sep-Oct 08) 3.1 share (11th) CHED 1st with 13.5 (Jan-Feb 09) 0.7 share (13th) CHED 1st with 21.4 (Mar-Apr 09)-2.5 (12th) CHED first with 13.1

Bottom Line: Inside Sports with Dan Tencer and anything to do with the Oilers rule the slot during the season. TEAM 1260 hasn't even contested this slot since Gregor moved to afternoons.

NO COMPETITION?

The quote from the Barnes piece that grabs me comes from CHED general manager Doug Rutherford.

"I don't really see (The Team) as competition. An all-sports radio station will talk to a specific audience, although small. What we try and do with CHED is talk to a more mainstream audience. All-sports is a niche format."

Maybe I'm taking Rutherford a bit too literally, but if TEAM 1260 isn't really competition, does that leave the door open for Stauffer to keep his night job alongside Phillips but cross town and fill a 1 p.m. to 3 p.m. slot on the Astral roster and form a solid one-two punch with Gregor during the week?

Let's not forget, Stauffer's an employee of the Oilers, not 630 CHED. Might team owner Daryl Katz, who already does business with Astral (TEAM 1260) with broadcasts of the Edmonton Oil Kings, be interested in expanding the brand by providing his product on two stations?

A SHOT IN THE ARM

Depending on where you sit with Stauffer -- love him or hate him with little room for indifference in between -- having him rev up the bombast that just won't fly on 630 CHED game nights back on TEAM 1260 is either a stroke of brilliance or just me having a stroke.

While I question Barnes' homer reference when it comes to Stauffer and Phillips -- I think they're more critical of the Oilers than any other team tandem of rights holders I can think of -- there's no question Bombastic Bob hasn't been able to let it all hang out since becoming an employee of the Oilers like he did when the saliva was flying at 1260.

Would the brass at Astral go for this? Would management at 630 CHED? What about the Oilers? Most important, what about the listeners, the people who tune in and pay the freight? Or not.

It sounds like a shot in the arm for sports fans to me.

-- Listen to Robin Brownlee every Thursday from 4 to 6 p.m. on Just A Game with Jason Gregor on TEAM 1260.

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A sports writer since 1983, including stints at The Edmonton Journal and The Sun 1989-2007, I happily co-host the Jason Gregor Show on TSN 1260 twice a week and write when so inclined. Have the best damn lawn on the internet. Most important, I am Sam's dad. Follow me on Twitter at Robin_Brownlee. Or don't.
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#101 RossCreek
June 14 2009, 09:25PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

My focus and area of, ahem, expertise, is the NHL and the Oilers. Why break up the Pipeline Show line-up? They have developed a nice following and they do a good job with a niche nobody else tackles. I’ve got a lot of respect for guys like John Sexsmith and Kevin Karius. It’s too bad they aren’t in the mix in some way.

Oh I definately want your "expertise" on the NHL, I just figured maybe you'd be interested in taking a trip down memory lane. Especially since AJ's with the Oil Kings. In any case, I'd love to hear more of you and AJ, whether it be together or not. No need to break up The Pipeline Show, just figured perhaps you'd have a better chemistry/relationship with Dean and AJ could slide into the CHL prospect show.

Perhaps an Edmonton version of "The Reporters" could be considered. Brownlee, Barnes, Tichkowsky, Rishaugh, Karius, even legends like John Short and thee Jim Matheson.

And I'd love to hear Kevin Karius on The TEAM. Is that plausible? Being in tv, would moving to radio be a step up, step down or a completely different challenge? If Bombastic Bob isn't able to return, Karius would make an excellent morning host IMO. And I'd like to hear John Sexsmith do the Oil/Esk post game shows. Maybe even a weekly football show (in season) with Sexsmith & Huntington (and I'm not a big CFL guy).

The point is... ANYTHING other than status quo.

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#102 heavyd
June 14 2009, 09:28PM
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@ Robin Brownlee: So how is an e-mail different then a facebook page, or an online petion your sending the same message? Or maybe i'm just a lazy punk kid?

And are you sure that if we even tryed calling that we would actuallt get through to the person we want to tlak too?

And I never once said that I wouldn't call or send an e-mail, i was just stating a point that you would get a bigger following with the other two methods, cause not everyone posts on oilersnation. But anyways don't want to argue with you anyways, cause I love what you write, and I am going to send an e-mail and try and see what happens.

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#103 RossCreek
June 14 2009, 09:31PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

Is sending an e-mail or making a phone call to the people who call the shots at TEAM 1260 really too much work if you’e serious about making your opinion known?

Just sent mine in. Lets go fella's. WE have a chance to help mould the programming WE want to hear.

team1260@cfrn.com

EDMONTON... REACT TO ME!!!!

Well at least react. Let the Nation's voice be heard (heck, I'm a frickin Flames fan, LETS GO!)

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#104 heavyd
June 14 2009, 09:34PM
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What did you say? IMO I think we should all have the same things to say otherwise it just 30 people sending in what they want to see but if we all have the same kinda ideas then maybe change will happen.

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#105 RossCreek
June 14 2009, 09:38PM
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Basically stated what I've stated on here. Also provided a link to this blog and gave my "dream" line up I mentioned earlier. But I used my real name. Now Bryn can unlock the mystery lol.

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#106 heavyd
June 14 2009, 09:41PM
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Ok. Sent mine also.

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#107 Ronan
June 14 2009, 09:46PM
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My two cents,

I started listening the team 1260 during the 06 cup run. It was the first time that I realized that there was an all sports station. I knew about 630 ched but I have never been able to withstand there on air personalities (mainly Bryan Hall…I can’t stand that guy! He makes me want to drive the wrong way on the Henday). The team 1260 was like a dream come true. Stauffer’s level of knowledge about the Edmonton sports scene was refreshing although I never really cared much for all of the UofA stuff but I realize the importance of having the local sports reported on the air. No need to go on about the show, that ship has sailed and its time to move on.

I find Jason Gregory’s show just as good if not better. Perhaps because I am part of the younger demographic that I found Jason’s style refreshing and a nice change from Stauffer. I like his style and his bluntness when it comes to crazy trades suggested my fans. (Like Heatly for Schremp and a draft pick) Is the show perfect??... not even close but it’s getting better every show.

As for the morning show, I think there are at a real disadvantage; they can only talk about what happened the night before or what will happen 8 to 12 hours later in the day. It’s hard to build on hype that early in the day and most of the hype or gripe from the night before has long since passed or it is still just way to early for most of the listeners. I do like how the show is still sports and news oriented, unlike the fan 960 in cow town. They barely talk about sports at all, these two sports stations are at complete opposite ends of the spectrum) All the morning show really needs to do is insert some funny segments, try to entertain their audience a bit more.

I don’t know… Just my two cents.

I am still an avid listener. I might even call in one day, who knows.

I hope the morning show gets sorted out soon. And I would recommend a new name

Ronan

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#108 Robin Brownlee
June 14 2009, 09:52PM
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heavyd wrote:

So how is an e-mail different then a facebook page, or an online petion your sending the same message? Or maybe i’m just a lazy punk kid?

How is it different? Didn't the near-10,000 people on Facebook translating to 5 actual people following through with a protest at the rink tell you something?

A hundred well-thought out e-mails to the appropriate people outling what's good, what's bad and what needs to change would do more good than 1,000 people doing the Facebook thing. At least that's how I see it.

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#109 heavyd
June 14 2009, 09:55PM
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@ Robin Brownlee: I agree, all i'm saying is how do you know that 100 people will sends e-mails. My thought with the facebook page was that they could see that people joined and I think more people would do that then sending in e-mails that was my point by doing something like that.

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#110 RossCreek
June 14 2009, 10:08PM
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Cuz I'm not on Crackbook, thats why.

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#111 heavyd
June 14 2009, 10:17PM
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@ RossCreek: ok. thats fine i'm just thinking that not everyone will send e-mails like me and you did.

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#112 David S
June 14 2009, 10:49PM
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heavyd wrote:

ok. thats fine i’m just thinking that not everyone will send e-mails like me and you did.

There's a big difference between taking the time to lay out an intelligent email and pressing a "join the group" button. I bet 99% of the people that joined the Fire MacT group did so to show their other Facebook friends how cool they were. Those 5 goofs that actually showed up were one step away from hardcore trekkies.

I'm tellin' ya. The people at TEAM 1260 will get wind of Robin's thread tomorrow (if they haven't already). This is the best focus group they could possibly ask for. I'd bet a few eyes will be opened in the next day or so. You guys have already accomplished what Robin is asking you to do.

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#113 Hocknee Fann
June 14 2009, 10:50PM
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Robin:

I truly miss listening to you and Stauff during Bob's former drive home show on the Team 1260. Perhaps it's at your liking, but I think that Gregor should have you on more then just Thursday's. I don't want to run anyone down, but guests like Ryan Rishaug and the like simply don't have the insight or history that you or Bob have - or the camaraderie that you and Bob seemed to have.

In my opinion, Stauffer has helped out the punky College Boy on 630 CHED - as Lesley Primeau calls him (Dan Tencer). He’s educating Tencer at the chagrin of The Team in Edmonton.

I'll be honest, I tend to turn the channel these days and listen to Hallsy more than Gregor. Gregor sounds at times like a High School brat with the things he talks about at times (perhaps The Team is targeting a younger audience). And his voice at times gets too squeaky and I have to turn him off! (That’s pretty bad if Brian can win!)

Generally speaking, The Team 1260 needs to improve their programming. Outside of Rome, I don't care to listen to hours and hours of basketball or baseball, or American radio, whether that is ESPN or Fox.

Go to feeds from The Fan 590 in Toronto - and later in the day - The Team 1040 out of Vancouver. At least we can here some NHL and CFL. The Fan will pick up the NBA and MLB as required.

Since Bob left, I find myself less and less tuning into The Team 1260.

Your idea is great! BUT - Put Gregor on his own, either earlier in the day or back in the evenings. Let Bob be as he was, with you as a regular!

My opinion!

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#114 Hocknee Fann
June 14 2009, 10:54PM
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Forgot to mention - Too bad Jake Daniels is gone!

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#115 Hoos
June 14 2009, 11:19PM
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RossCreek wrote:

Perhaps an Edmonton version of “The Reporters” could be considered. Brownlee, Barnes, Tichkowsky, Rishaugh, Karius, even legends like John Short and thee Jim Matheson.

This was done before on Total Sports. It was called "The Edmonton Monday Sports Media Roundtable" and it was phenomenal.

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#116 TK10
June 14 2009, 11:20PM
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I loved listening to Stauffer on 1260, especially when Spec (wow!) and Brownlee were co-hosts/guests. Bob was inciteful,courageous and backed up his "stuff" with sound reasoning. He always had an opinion and seldom held back. He admitted his errors in judgement without trying to weasel out. Plus Bob is alot smarter than your average bear. I for one was pretty sure 1260 would suffer greatly when they lost him and this is borne out by the ratings-no surprise there. Is Astral in financial trouble? A company's best asset is its people and good sportscasters seem to be rarer than hens' teeth. I for one would be ecstatic to be able to listen to him again, but without the constraints he is presently under, whether self imposed or not.

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#117 Hocknee Fann
June 14 2009, 11:59PM
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@ TK10: Agree! Forgot too mention Spec.

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#118 Kyle
June 15 2009, 12:01AM
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Any way you could get your own show on the team Brownlee? I for one would love to listen to you more than once a week.

Also that Stauffer idea is a good one, I doubt it will happen though.

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#119 cambosmash
June 15 2009, 08:17AM
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As much as it hurts to say it, I tune into Calgary's morning show via the interweb most mornings. Mike Richards throwing on a thick Italian accent and impersonating Roberto Luongo talking about dropping a 427 hemi in a Chevy Nova and doing some drifting is gold. The Oilers bashing songs may be hurtful tear inducing ballads, but they are also creative enough to induce hysterical laughter. I wish our morning show could compete.

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#120 RossCreek
June 15 2009, 08:33AM
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Interesting to hear that AJ Jakubec is on this morning. Bryn took a brief moment to address the Jake situation. From what I heard, AJ will be on with Bryn for the next couple weeks while they sort everything out. Hopefully they find a happy-medium between what their show was and what Mike Richards in Calgary brings.

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#121 Alon
June 15 2009, 08:48AM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

heavyd wrote: So how is an e-mail different then a facebook page, or an online petion your sending the same message? Or maybe i’m just a lazy punk kid? How is it different? Didn’t the near-10,000 people on Facebook translating to 5 actual people following through with a protest at the rink tell you something? A hundred well-thought out e-mails to the appropriate people outling what’s good, what’s bad and what needs to change would do more good than 1,000 people doing the Facebook thing. At least that’s how I see it.

Actually, that whole thing was totally missrepresented by the Sun. Yes, there was a 10 000 person fire MacT group, but the actually amount of people who committed to the rally was only like 60, and the Sun didn't think to check (or maybe they knew and didn't report it) and whipped it into a frenzy, and made it into something it wasn't. None-the-less, the whole thing was very dissapointing.

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#122 BUCK75
June 15 2009, 09:22AM
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Wow - an interesting topic.

I would like to throw my support behind Brownlee in getting more airtime as well. I enjoy listening on Thursdays, when I get the chance.

The whole media industry has done a 180 in the last 10 years. There is more choice for entertainment & information than ever before. Newspapers have been doing a death march ever since the onset of the internet, now radio & TV are going through the same 'growing pains'. Even looking for MORE government assistance (as if they don't have enough 'Canadian Content') and even a bailout?

I enjoy listening to 1260, I don't get as many opportunities as I have in the past, but one of my pet peeves right from the beginning was the lack of 'local' programming during the day. Jim Rome is a radio icon, a good show worth listening to. But not having a reason to listen after his show is a huge problem.

The only thing I can think of why there isn't a 1-3 program is because there wasn't 'talent' to do it. I know TPS books their own advertisers, as well as JAG & Stauffer as well (no more Royal Pizza ads on 1260). The way I see it if there is someone who is interested in filling the slot, I am pretty confident that even in these tough times an advertiser would back whomever the person was filling the slot.

I think that is where radio staions get listened to the most, during the work day. It is a shame that nobody can fill the afternoon slot or the evening slot that JAG used to be in.

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#123 Robin Brownlee
June 15 2009, 09:26AM
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Alon wrote:

Actually, that whole thing was totally missrepresented by the Sun. Yes, there was a 10 000 person fire MacT group, but the actually amount of people who committed to the rally was only like 60, and the Sun didn’t think to check (or maybe they knew and didn’t report it) and whipped it into a frenzy, and made it into something it wasn’t. None-the-less, the whole thing was very dissapointing.

The point is (and you obviously get it) is the number of people signing up under a Facebook-type format don't accurately reflect real committed opinion.

Sending an e-mail or making a phone call stating your opinion to the appropriate people on your own is far more effective. Even if it isn't as "organized" as a Facebook set-up, getting 100 or however many e-mails and calls from people having their say has more impact. Be constructive -- here's what we like and please give us more. Be critical -- this or that sucks and needs to change. Be honest.

I don't know the management at TEAM 1260, but I'm guessing they're reasonable people who want to succeed. Why wouldn't they consider well thought out feedback?

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#124 charlieangels
June 15 2009, 09:27AM
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I like the morning show on 1260 but Jake had to go. While sometimes he was funny, he really didn't add a whole lot. Bob was by far the best 1260 had. He won't come back as is he not employed under Katz group now? I doubt he would be the same as I suspect he can't say anything too negative about the Oil. How about this idea, if Hall of Famer Rod retires why not see if he would be interested. Man, that guy could keep us interested with stories for sure. Matheson reported in the paper that maybe MacT going to CBC, gee, where have we heard that before. Maybe MacT for the morning show?

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#125 Robin Brownlee
June 15 2009, 09:29AM
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charlieangels wrote:

Maybe MacT for the morning show?

How about MacT and Stauffer?

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#126 Sandra Blood
June 15 2009, 09:55AM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

charlieangels wrote: Maybe MacT for the morning show? How about MacT and Stauffer?

Talking about the Oilers are a team in "transition"?

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#127 Rick
June 15 2009, 09:57AM
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It's an interesting idea and I would think it would help the TEAM with their ratings because Stauffer did have his show figured out in terms of what works.

One fly in the ointment from a logistical standpoint is that he is on the road for half of the hockey season which probably leaves the TEAM scrambling on a regular basis for alternate programming during those times or would mean that Stauffer's egment would need a dedicated co-host that could carry the show on his own when he is travelling with the Oilers.

I still listen to the TEAM faithfully, although my schedule pretty much only has me listening during the morning and evening drive times.

The big difference I noticed isn't so much the host because both Stauffer and Gregor have an identifiable schtick that sometimes is works and sometimes gets tired.

The biggest difference I find though is that Stauffer really had it figured out in terms of guest co-hosts and regular interviewee's. I like that he had Hrudey every Wednesday, Brownlee on Tuesdays (or when ever it was), Spector on Thursdays and so on. It works well because speaking for myself, I don't frankly care what Stauffer's opinion is or Gregor's opinion is, I want some inside dirt and some dissenting opinion that generates discussion.

With Gregor, atleast for when I get to listen in, the only time of the week that interests me is Thursdays with Brownlee because atleast there is a chance of getting a sniff of a rumour. Unfortunatley personality wise Robin and Jason seem to think too similar for the general banter to be really engaging.

The best sports radio on the TEAM was when Stauffer and Spector were co-hosting. They were the perfect foils for each other because they disagreed just enough to keep you engaged as a listener.

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#128 Peter Pan
June 15 2009, 10:24AM
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@ Brownlee:

I think the people have spoken. WE WANT YOU!!! Make it happen Robin!!

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#129 charlieangels
June 15 2009, 10:33AM
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Yes, Robin, you would be great as you speak your mind. There is also Charlie Huddy around as I think he is staying in Edmonton as his family likes it.

What about John Sexsmith also. I think he would be real good at it also

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#130 Sandra Blood
June 15 2009, 10:39AM
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charlieangels wrote:

Yes, Robin, you would be great as you speak your mind. There is also Charlie Huddy around as I think he is staying in Edmonton as his family likes it. What about John Sexsmith also. I think he would be real good at it also

Maybe T.W. will callin and Robin , you can set him in his place again......PRICELESS

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#131 David S
June 15 2009, 10:39AM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

How about MacT and Stauffer?

Dare to dream Arnold. Dare to dream.

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#132 Bill
June 15 2009, 10:57AM
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Some very good points.

I think the one thing that can't be overlooked is that not replacing Gregor at night has hurt the station. I would be willing to bet anything that when they get a night show the numbers everywhere will go back up.

They were dumb not to replace Gregor at night. Stauffer and Gregor are different, but I think Gregor is way better at interviewing. His guests are top notch all the time.

Stauffer and Gregor are the two best in the city and any station that gets both on would dominate.

I'm looking forward to the changes on the TEAM. The Oilers have made lots of changes, and now the TEAM 1260 is. What a great time to be a sports fan in Edmonton.

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#133 Mr DeBakey
June 15 2009, 11:12AM
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Late here, and haven't read the 132 comments.

But, Im wondering Now that MacTavish is no longer stifling offensive confidence in the Oiler's young players, What would Bob talk about?

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#134 Peter
June 15 2009, 11:28AM
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Robin,

Interesting piece. You pointed out how the numbers went down a bit in the afternoon. I've been trying to find them on line and I can't but I'm sure if you found them from the previous few years, that they were the same or less than what Gregor had. I don't see that big a difference in the afternoon. The lack of an evening show is killing them that is clear and it was time to get rid of Daniels in the morning. Any idea on who they will replace him with?

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#135 Mike
June 15 2009, 11:30AM
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Mr DeBakey wrote:

But, Im wondering Now that MacTavish is no longer stifling offensive confidence in the Oiler’s young players, What would Bob talk about?

Great point. His show got really stale...same old every day. Blame MacT. I think he was on at the right time for him..when he could complain about the same thing daily, because the fans were just as pissed.

Gregor's show is way more balanced and informative. Not having the same five callers every day is a breath of fresh air for me.

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#136 West Coast Oil
June 15 2009, 01:03PM
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RossCreek wrote:

And I’d love to hear Kevin Karius on The TEAM. Is that plausible? Being in tv, would moving to radio be a step up, step down or a completely different challenge? If Bombastic Bob isn’t able to return, Karius would make an excellent morning host IMO. And I’d like to hear John Sexsmith do the Oil/Esk post game shows. Maybe even a weekly football show (in season) with Sexsmith & Huntington (and I’m not a big CFL guy).

Don Taylor works Sportsnet and does a daily show on the Team 1040 so I don't know why Karius wouldn't be able to. I moving back to Edmonton this fall so I am really hoping 1260 can turn things around as I want a good sports radio to listen to. Getting the local Edmonton newspaper reporters and perhaps some of the newspaper reporters from other cities on air once a day would also be great. I can imagine the drivel that would come from people like Garrioch of the Ottawa Sun and getting inside scoops from reporters down in Calgary and here in Vancouver..

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#137 David S
June 15 2009, 02:24PM
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I thought I heard Kevin Karius as a guest speaker on last Friday's JAG segment. He'd be an excellent addition to The Team. He knows his stuff and has something to say as well.

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#138 J-Bird
June 15 2009, 03:26PM
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Haven't read all the comments, but....

1) Get ESPN back FFS. There's something Versus/Bettman-esk about it.

2) Gregor's show is mostly OK. Doing trivia show on drive time? It's not the midnight slot here, nobody on their drive home wants to listen to that garbage. And they were doing it on Oil game nights as a guy was driving into the game. You're driving into an Oiler game and can't get a pre game? Wil Fraser trivia? Mickey Mouse! No wonder the dial went the other way. And on drive time, those folks want the Oilers and Eskimos. Not "how to work out" shows, diet shows, etc. This is the drive time show, not infomercial time. Just my opinion.

3) Gregor's opinion changes based on the callers opinion. I get what he's trying to do, but if you agree with what a guy is saying, then agree with it. Don't argue for the sake of argueing. Bryn's the worst for that too. Bob had his take and it stayed the same.

4) The weekly line up Bob had was good with some insight from folks like Hrudy, Spector, etc.

5) The morning show sucks. Period. Full of filler. Jake's run his course. Bryn's trying to creat issues by taking rediculous stands on rediculous issues. And I find neither believable as "sports" guys. That's a real issue folks. With Stauffer and Gregor, you don't doubt them and what they say as informed sports guys. As a sports station, when the public questions the so called "expertise" in the chair, you've got issues.

I'm concerned the ship has sailed with the TEAM 1260. I think we need it, but I think they've lost their way. Dropping ESPN for Fox was a big mistake and gave me the impression that the station is reducing services, treading water, about a month away from going under. That's the impression.

Get another evening show, and hire outside of existing tallent. Stauff, Gregor, all were nobody's at one time. Putting Fraser in for postgame's don't work. We know he's just hired help.

I really hope things turn around though, I find myself listening less all the time.

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#139 charlieangels
June 15 2009, 03:31PM
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Hope about Morley Scott, not sure what he is doing and he knows his hockey

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#140 Mike
June 15 2009, 03:45PM
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J-Bird wrote:

Gregor’s show is mostly OK. Doing trivia show on drive time? It’s not the midnight slot here, nobody on their drive home wants to listen to that garbage. And they were doing it on Oil game nights as a guy was driving into the game. You’re driving into an Oiler game and can’t get a pre game? Wil Fraser trivia? Mickey Mouse! No wonder the dial went the other way. And on drive time, those folks want the Oilers and Eskimos. Not “how to work out” shows, diet shows, etc. This is the drive time show, not infomercial time. Just my opinion.

What are you talking about. He does trivia one day a week for one segment..Not entire shows like Stauffer used to do. He gives away great prizes, and lots of time tickets to Oilers games, which most people want. I know all of my buddies and I really like the trivia.

J-Bird wrote:

Gregor’s opinion changes based on the callers opinion. I get what he’s trying to do, but if you agree with what a guy is saying, then agree with it. Don’t argue for the sake of argueing. Bryn’s the worst for that too. Bob had his take and it stayed the same.

Again not sure what you are talking about here. Gregor rarely wavers, in fact it pisses me off because I dont' agree with his point, but I respect that he sticks to it. He and Fraser have had some very entertaining battles. It is interesting how we hear completely different things.

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#141 The Menace
June 15 2009, 04:10PM
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I've thought for some time that 1260 should have a hockey-focused show running from 1-3 daily. that time is a black-hole with the fox sports show (to a lesser degree with ESPN). very few people in edmonton want to listen to the american take on basketball right in the heat of a NHL playoff race. In the offseason, they could move to a CFL focus or whatever.

I really like Gregor's show. I admit, I had never heard his show before when he took over the 3-6 slot, but I was hooked from the start. I like how you can hear his emotions through the tone of his voice. I also can identify with a lot of his guy stories. Like someone else mentioned, the only thing I would change is less trivia. if you have to have it to give stuff away, do it off-air. I don't need to hear 10 minutes of guys not knowing the answers. Other than that, love the show.

Oh yeah, and the idea of Bob doing the 1-3 show? I would love it, but I can't see it happening. It's easy for Rutherford to say publicly that 1260 isn't a competitor, but my bet is his money doesn't go where his mouth is.

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#142 The Menace
June 15 2009, 04:16PM
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The Menace wrote:

very few people in edmonton want to listen to the american take on basketball right in the heat of a NHL playoff race.

When I say this, I should really say, "if everyone in edmonton thinks like me, than very few people want to listen to the american take on basketball right in the heat of an NHL playoff race. I'm presuming that I'm a representative slice of the sample audience.

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#143 patty
June 15 2009, 04:23PM
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I love the trivia. It's only on for 10 minutes once a week, cut them some slack... I've also started listening to the morning show again now that Jake's gone, and it's a huge improvement already.

It would be great to hear more local personalities talk hockey, and football for that matter. I think Huntington is out though, he's the main marketing guy for Northlands Racing now I think.

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#144 Robin Brownlee
June 15 2009, 04:31PM
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charlieangels wrote:

Hope about Morley Scott, not sure what he is doing and he knows his hockey

Do you think so? He knows his hockey in what regard? As colourman for Rod Phillips, did Scott analyze what was happening on the ice or simply repeat the play-by-play call? Did Morley break down defensive zone coverage and forechecking schemes the way Stauffer or Ray Ferraro do? Were his interviewing skills for pre-game spots noteworthy?

One other thing, just FYI: when TEAM 1260 was starting up, Scott made a point of ridiculing the station on a fairly regular basis. One time when we were sitting around a morning skate at Rexall Place, I mentioned I was going to start doing spots for Stauffer and Total Sports when the Oilers were on the road. His question to me was: "What are they going to pay you with, Perry Como records?" That's fine if it's a friendly shot between friends, but there was more to it than that.

Despite some challenges for 1260 lately, I'm guessing Morley doesn't hold the station in such low regard now that he's unemployed. I'd think, though, that there's enough talented people out there -- Karius, Sexsmith, whoever -- who could be brought in by the TEAM that they wouldn't need to enlist somebody who thought so little of the station not so long ago.

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#145 RossCreek
June 15 2009, 05:43PM
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@ Robin Brownlee: Hey I've heard you "bash" Morley Scott a few times on here over the past few months to varying degrees. No skin off my ace, but just was wondering if I'm picking that up right and if there's more to it. Do you have a personal beef with him? Just wondering.

Alright, so throughout this thread I've mentioned a few different ideas for the morning show (Jim Jerome, Bob Stauffer). As far as I know Jim's in Ottawa now and Bob may be a pipe dream. I'm not really all that familiar with Jerome, but would love to hear Stauff in the mornings. But if it can't be him, I'd totally throw my support behind KEVIN KARIUS. IMO, that guy has a great personality (from what I see on tv) that I think would only shine brighter in a radio gig. He's pretty funny at times and I'm sure the switch to radio would allow him a chance to be a little "looser" yet.

Karius in the mornings? I'd dig it.

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#146 RossCreek
June 15 2009, 05:51PM
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I know Bryn's really pushing the FOX radio. They do talk a bit more hockey than ESPN, so you'd think we'd like it better. At this point I don't really care which one it is because even ESPN hasn't been the same (to me)since guys like Dan Patrick and Eric Kasilius left the afternoon slots. Mike & Mike in the morning was good to, but I rarely caught more than half an hour of it anyway. The Fan960 in Calgary has switched to FOX as well.

Leave FOX on if you want, but give us another afternoon show, a better morning show, and a better post game show. And better Saturdays!

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#147 RossCreek
June 15 2009, 05:54PM
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Oh... and I don't mind AJ Jakubec, but my buddy gave him the thumbs down today for always being a negative grouch. Never really thought about it that way. Regardless, he could be better utilized.

I f Rod Phillips retires, who steps in with Bob? AJ? Rob Brown? Who?

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#148 charlieangels
June 15 2009, 06:04PM
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Wow, didn't realize Morley was that bad. Ditch him I say and let's go Robin. Get in there like a dirty shirt and tell it the way it is. You and Bryn would be interesting. Get in there dude.

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#149 Robin Brownlee
June 15 2009, 06:06PM
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RossCreek wrote:

Hey I’ve heard you “bash” Morley Scott a few times on here over the past few months

You obviously haven't seen me "bash" anyone or you wouldn't attach that word to an honest response to a question. I've barely given Morley what I'd consider a love tap, yet you've noted that I've bashed him a few times, so I'm not buying your "just wondering."

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#150 Sandra Blood
June 15 2009, 06:22PM
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Terry Jones or Robert Tychkowsi(Sp) anyone? LOL

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