Live blog... NHL Draft Day 2 - Tambellini on Brodziak trade!

Jason Gregor
June 27 2009 08:10AM

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8:05 a.m. MST

Day two doesn't have the same build up as day one, so I wouldn't be surprised to see more trades today.

And just like that the Day starts with a bang. And it is a piss in your cornflakes day for Oiler fans.

The Flames have acquired the rights to Jay Bouwmeester for Jordan Leopold and a 3rd pick. When the Flames sign him, they will have to trade some big contract away, and that would seem to be either Regehr or Phaneuf. We will watch with interest.

8:12 a.m MST

Six minutes in and we already have seven picks, it's amazing how much faster it goes. Landon Ferraro goes 32nd to the Detroit Red Wings, a big relief after sitting here for four hours yesterday without hearing his name called.

With the 40th pick the Oilers take another Swede, Anton Lander a 6'0" 194 pounder. Here is the scouting report on him.

"Great two-way player, plays as both a center and left wing, has decent faceoff skills as a center. A gifted playmaker, but also with some ability to score, will be known more for his passing skills however. Good gritty and physical player in the J20 in Sweden, battles well in the corners. Plays with great emotion and comes to play day in and day out, however this competitiveness has led to him taking unnecessary penalties at times. Hasn't adjusted to playing with men in the Elitserien yet, but they may happen over the course of the 08-09 season."

There is lots of talk on the floor about what this Flames deal means. Early speculation is that Dion Phaneuf could be dealt. The Flames don't have the cap space to keep Bouwmeester, Phaneuf and Regehr so one of them will move.

8:24 a.m. MST

The St. Louis Blues take Beaumont boy Brett Ponich, a 6'7" 210 pound giant. He is tough and physical D-man playing for the Portland Winterhawks. His stock kept rising all year and he is projected to be a solid D-man in a few years, as long as he improves his foot speed.

Darryl Sutter is now working the phones. You wonder how long he will wait to make a deal, because everyone knows he can't keep all three D-men. If the Human Rake can get you two players, and two first rounders, what do you think Phaneuf will attract?

8:38 a.m. MST

Round two is already over. This will be over quickly.

More on Lander. He played with MPS in Timra, and was his centreman. He's been the captain of the under 18 national team, and is very competitive. He admits he needs to improve his skating to play in the NHL, but like MPS, he will play in Timra again this coming season before heading over to North America.

Not a lot on the Heatley front right now. but the fact that Calgary took J-Bo has everyone talking. This muddies the waters, because it mean another big name, either Phaneuf or Regehr, is now on the block.

With the speed of the picks today, you don't see managment leaving their tables as often as yesterday.

I just had a brief talk with an eastern conference asst. GM and he said the interest level in one of the Flames D-men will be intense. He said Phaneuf might fetch more than the Human Rake. We will see.

8:50 a.m MST

With their third pick, 71st overall the Oilers took high schooler Troy Hesketh. He wasn't ranked anywhere by Central Scouting, in fact, he didn't even have a name card to slide in right away. They had two other name bars in below him, before they finally got a name plate for him on the big draft board.

He is going to Wisconsin next season. He is 6'2"  and 185 pounds and is an offensive d-man. He had seven goals and 21 points in 25 games for the Minnetonka Skippers and was an impressive +23.

9:02 a.m. MST

A quick  recap of yesterday's trades in case you missed them.

Ducks traded the Human Rake and prospect Ryan Dingle to the Flyers for Lupul, Sbisa, the 21st pick yesterday, a 1st rounder in 2010 and a conditional pick in 2010 or 2011.

Columbus traded picks #16 and #77 to the Islanders for #26, #37, #62 and #92

Minnesota traded #12 pick  to Islanders for #16, #77 and #182.

Calgary traded pick #20 to New Jersey for #23 adn #84.

Anaheim traded #21 to Columbus for #26 and #37.

Detroit traded #29 to to Tampa for #32 and #75.

9:04 a.m. MST

The Oilers take from Everett in the WHL Cameron  Abney.  He is a tough as nails but the scouting report is he needs to improve a lot as a player.

9:13 a.m MST

Round three is over, and both Oiler picks weren't rated in Central scouting.

Abney is 6'4" 195 pounds who is tough as nails, but won't bring much offence. He had 1 goals and 4 points in 48 games with Everett this past year.  He is a great fighter, but hasn't shown an ability to do much else.

This is a pick to toughen up the minor system down the road.

9:20 a.m MST

Now we start to see the GM's interacting. Most GM's don't know any of the players past the 3rd round and can now move a bit more freely to discuss possible moves.  I don't see Sutter on the floor right now. He has been receiving a lot of calls, and now some are speculating that he will try to keep his big three for one run, before the cap goes down. But Even if they get Jay Bo signed to a $6 million cap hit that puts them around $53.4 million with six D-men, two goalies and nine forwards signed. They would need to sign four more players just to get to 21. It will be interesting to see if he can balance the books to keep the big three on the backend.

9:28 a.m MST

OILERS TRADE BRODZIAK TO MINNESOTA FOR PICKS.

9:34 a.m MST

Computer crashes...WTF...

9:55 a.m MST

The Oilers dealt Brodziak for the 99th pick and swamped late picks with Minnesota. The Oilers then took Kyle Bigos a 6'5" 230 pound, 20 year-old D-man who played in the BCHL for Vernon.

Brodziak's departure opens the door for Gilbert Brule to slide into his 4th line centre spot. The Oilers wanted Brodziak to be grittier and got tired of waiting it seems.

Then with the 101st pick the Oilers took talented finnish forward Toni Rajala. He was ranked 11th amongst European players. He broke Ovechkin's record at the under 18 championships, when he scored ten goals, and had 19 points in six games. He is small at 5'10" 165 pounds but he loads of skill. He was ranked the 2nd best play maker behind Duchene and third best puck handler behind Duchene and Glennie according to Central Scouting.

10:03 a.m MST

Oil Kings prospect Tomas Vincour goes 129th to the Dallas Stars. They butchered his name, but he could be a sleeper for them. He was rated way higher to start the year, but slipped due to injury. If he can stay healthy he might turn out to be a decent mid round pick.

10:07 a.m MST

The Oilers pick Olivier Roy. The netminder was ranked 2nd amongst north american goalies by central scouting. ISS had him ranked second amongst every goalie in the draft. The crowd gave the pick a huge ovation, since he played in the QMJHL.

10:43 a.m. MST

Just spoke with Ken Holland. He and Rich Winter, Hossa's agent, are talking to see if they can find a cap number that fits into Detroit's plans.  Hossa isn't completely out of their plans but he'll have to take a pay cut to stay there. I'd bet he needs something around $5.5 cap hit to fit in.

It's been almost three hours since the Bouwmeester deal to Calgary and the rumours are wide ranging. Some think Phaneuf is gone for sure, while others think Sutter wants to make one great run, and then when the cap goes down next year he will move one or two big tickets.  Early speculation is that Jay Bo will sign a long term deal to get a lower cap hit, some where around $6.3 to $6.7.

10:51 a.m  MST

The Flames just traded Jim Vandermeer to the Coyotes for Brandon Prust. That opens a spot on the backend and brings in another NHL forward. That just saved them 1.75 in cap space. Vandermeer was making $2.3 while Prust is a .525 cap hit.

10:58 a.m MST

The seventh round is under way. There are 25 picks left and it is painful to watch the handful of kids that are still sitting in the stands waiting for their name to be called. I have no idea what parents are thinking when they agree to let their son come here, unless he is rated in the top 60. Those guys do drop, but normally not all the way out of the draft. If you son is rated in the 4th or 5th round, don't bring him.

You can see the frustration, sadness and humiliation in their body with ever pick that passes them by.

There is no need for them to be here and I think it is on the shoulder of the parents and agents to convince them not to come.  Some might be motivated by it, but many never recover from not getting the call.

11:15 a.m MST

The Oilers just traded their 7th pick for a pick next year.

Many have asked how many contracts the Oilers have now that Brodziak has been traded.

Starting July 1st they will have 33 contracts, but I'd expect Hrabel to go back to Europe, or they buy him out and they will be down to 32. Three of those include Eberle, Plante and Kytnar, so if they go back to junior they don't count. I'd guess Plante might go to the minors so lets say they are at 30.

The Oilers will add Smid, Grebeshkov and Brule for sure so that puts them at 33. They have room to move, but moving Brodziak was for a few reasons. They had too many forwards under contract, and they like Brule's grit better.

11:20 a.m. MST

The Nashville Predators use the first time out of the day...ohhh...and after the break they choose Cameron Reid from Westside in the BCHL....we"ll see if that time out pans out in a few years. Remember the name Cameron Reid, that timeout might have been the best 30 seconds the Predators took...or maybe not.

11:45 a.m. MST

Tambellini talks about  Brodziak trade

"We do need to change our line up a bit. We have too many bodies at forward. We are willing to give some people a chance that haven't had a chance before."

Is Brule that guy?

"He'll get a very good look this year, there is no question about it. But I'm not sure if that's exactly what's going to happen with that position."

How aggressive do you expect to be on July 1st and what areas do you need to upgrade?

"I think most teams, regardless of what they are looking for will be aggressive. A lot of the times it is first what you have to MOVE in order to bring something in. And that's very difficult right now and that's why there is a lot of hesitation in the market. There are great players out there, but it is difficult at times to move contracts. I think that aggressiveness will depend on what happens prior to July 1st."

Do you feel pressure to keep pace with the Flames after they added Bouwmeester?

"Every day you try to make your own team better, you can't  control what other teams do. They're in a different situation than we are with our roster. We are a little bit younger than they are, but they have a good hockey club and we know that, but I have to do what is best for our team."

Tambellini made it clear that some people will get a bigger chance this season. Brule and Pouliot will be the two that battle for Brodziak's opening, they also want to give Jacques a legit shot on the wing. He also hinted that he'll make another move before July 1st to free up some space and a body. They still have too many forwards, so don't be surprised to see another one moved soon.

12:04 p.m. MST

That wraps up the 2009 Draft and the first OILERSNATION live blog from the draft. It was a great experience and I'm looking forward to hitting the town this afternoon. Thanks again to all of your donations and for following the blog from Montreal. Next year's location hasn't been announced yet, but we'll be there and we will find a way to make it even better.

Now we can turn our focus towards free agency.

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#1 Jim
June 27 2009, 08:15AM
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The Flames??? What are the odds he won't sign there?

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#2 Travis Dakin
June 27 2009, 08:15AM
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WTF??????

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#3 leftwinger9
June 27 2009, 08:16AM
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Couldn't be worse news to start the day! After all the Souray to LA talk, I assumed JayBo was part of our master plan.

And the Flames!!! At least its not the Leafs....

*walks slowly to the bedroom, where he may pout all day (unless Tambo does something exciting)*

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#4 Greg
June 27 2009, 08:23AM
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I don't get the talk that the Flames have to move a contract to sign Bowmeester... if they do a long term deal in the $6M range (say 12 years at $70M), they've got room. If he's looking for Campbell type money though, then ya, they've got to move someone, but I'd still bet on it being Vandameer. My money is on them signing JayBo and standing pat with the rest of the roster though. Iggy and Olli will be expected to carry the offense, and they'll go with what could be the best collection of D-men in the league.

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#5 JB
June 27 2009, 08:24AM
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I hope this blows up in Calgary's face. That team is starting to look alot like the Florida panthers. I hope They have the same playoff making record.

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#6 Jim
June 27 2009, 08:26AM
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@ Greg: If they can make that work... that will be a scary bunch down south.

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#7 humantorch
June 27 2009, 08:26AM
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Any more buzz on Heatley yet, Gregor?

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#8 myteammytown
June 27 2009, 08:27AM
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Greg wrote:

I don’t get the talk that the Flames have to move a contract to sign Bowmeester… if they do a long term deal in the $6M range (say 12 years at $70M), they’ve got room. If he’s looking for Campbell type money though, then ya, they’ve got to move someone, but I’d still bet on it being Vandameer. My money is on them signing JayBo and standing pat with the rest of the roster though. Iggy and Olli will be expected to carry the offense, and they’ll go with what could be the best collection of D-men in the league.

the flames have about 47mil committed to 15ish players right now.

add j-bow at 6.5 mi, the flames have 16 players at 53.5mil.

that only leaves roughly 4 mil for the remaining 4 or 5 players

the flames, as of now, have no second line. can you get a second line for 4 mil?

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#9 JB
June 27 2009, 08:30AM
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@ myteammytown: Isn't that what the oilers have in Neilsen/gags/cogs

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#10 Doug
June 27 2009, 08:32AM
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I hope Jay Bo doesn't sign and they look stupid

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#11 myteammytown
June 27 2009, 08:32AM
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@ JB:

and how well has that worked for the oilers so far?

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#12 EMAC
June 27 2009, 08:32AM
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wow, I hate the Flames.

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#13 Mike76
June 27 2009, 08:34AM
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Jason,

What was Anton Lander's final ranking? I can't find it anywhere.

Was he a teammate of our first rounder MSP?

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#14 JB
June 27 2009, 08:35AM
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@ myteammytown: my point exactly

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#15 humantorch
June 27 2009, 08:35AM
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Darryl Sutter is now working the phones. You wonder how long he will wait to make a deal, because everyone knows he can’t keep all three D-men. If the Human Rake can get you two players, and two first rounders, what do you think Phaneuf will attract?

Would Sutter be dumb enough to trade Phaneuf away before July 1? Could you imagine if he traded The Dion and then JBo signed elsewhere? Wow.

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#16 myteammytown
June 27 2009, 08:35AM
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@ JB:

gotcha

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#17 Smokin' Ray
June 27 2009, 08:36AM
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WTF?!?! the fLames. *groan*

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#18 JB
June 27 2009, 08:38AM
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humantorch wrote:

Darryl Sutter is now working the phones. You wonder how long he will wait to make a deal, because everyone knows he can’t keep all three D-men. If the Human Rake can get you two players, and two first rounders, what do you think Phaneuf will attract? Would Sutter be dumb enough to trade Phaneuf away before July 1? Could you imagine if he traded The Dion and then JBo signed elsewhere? Wow.

JayBo agent said he wasn't signing anywhere before July1 would be great if the traded Phaneuf and then lost JayBo I would pee myself laughing.

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#19 Mike76
June 27 2009, 08:39AM
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Who cares about Bouwmeester to Calgary. He is unproven in the clutch, just like Jokinen and look what he did in the playoffs.

That team down south is going downhill. Iginla is past his prime, Kiprusoff's stats have gone downhill over the past five years, the team is injury prone and Phaneuf is the ugliest SOB in the league.

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#20 Cory Dakin
June 27 2009, 08:42AM
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I know of a certain team north of Calgary that has a jersey that would fit Phaneuf nicely. Just sayin'..

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#21 Smokin' Ray
June 27 2009, 08:42AM
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JB wrote:

@ myteammytown: Isn’t that what the oilers have in Neilsen/gags/cogs

How far did that get us?

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#22 tommyjr26
June 27 2009, 08:43AM
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WHAT THE HELL ARE ISLANDERS trying to do build a basketball team made of goalies. I was hoping the Oil would pick up one of the giants, koskinen or Nilsson.

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#23 Smokin' Ray
June 27 2009, 08:44AM
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Smokin' Ray wrote:

JB wrote: @ myteammytown: Isn’t that what the oilers have in Neilsen/gags/cogs How far did that get us?

nevermind. :)

If you want to be sarcastic around here. use the ~

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#24 The Menace
June 27 2009, 08:44AM
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I have a feeling that Tambo will provide some excitement today.

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#25 Mike76
June 27 2009, 08:45AM
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Those two guys will have to wait in line for 15 years until Dipietro's contract is up. tommyjr26 wrote:

WHAT THE HELL ARE ISLANDERS trying to do build a basketball team made of goalies. I was hoping the Oil would pick up one of the giants, koskinen or Nilsson.
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#26 tommyjr26
June 27 2009, 08:45AM
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I can not see the Flamers moving Phaneuf (with Sutter coaching). They may however move Regehr.

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#27 OpenAir
June 27 2009, 08:45AM
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The Menace wrote:

I have a feeling that Tambo will provide some excitement today.

I dunno. I felt it yesterday, but not anymore. It's disappointing.

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#28 Cory Dakin
June 27 2009, 08:46AM
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The Menace wrote:

I have a feeling that Tambo will provide some excitement today.

I wish I could agree with you... But I have a feeling the mighty Oil are only going home with seven draft picks in their pockets

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#29 leftwinger9
June 27 2009, 08:46AM
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Sadly, I don't think anyone would make the trade for JayBo's rights without having the chance to talk to his agent about contract. If he wasn't going to sign 'til July 1, why give Leopold away for nothing?

All the JayBo haters will be eating their words in 2 years when he wins his first Norris. This is the one that got away IMO, I'd rather have him than Hossa or Heatley. He'll be a top defenceman in the NHL for 10-12 years.

Here's hoping Tambo pulls a huge surprise move today! Changing the coaching staff was a good step, but we need some roster moves to make the playoffs this year!

Great work so far Gregor!

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#30 The Menace
June 27 2009, 08:48AM
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Doesn't that seem like a lot for just the rights to JayBo, when July 1 is on;y a few days away? If I was him and I've come this far, I think I would want to test the Free Agent market.

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#31 Jason Gregor
June 27 2009, 08:48AM
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Mike76 wrote:

Jason, What was Anton Lander’s final ranking? I can’t find it anywhere. Was he a teammate of our first rounder MSP?

Read latest blog hit. Lander's final ranking with Central Scouting was 19th amongst Europeans.

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#32 Madagain
June 27 2009, 08:52AM
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Just to let people know the Oilers web page has streaming coverage of the NHL Networks coverage of todays rounds.

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#33 OpenAir
June 27 2009, 08:52AM
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Troy Hesketh.

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#34 RossCreek
June 27 2009, 08:53AM
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Now to sign him. -I heard a few days ago that J-Bo is building a house in Calgary. -I refused to comment on the rumors the past few weeks cuz I didn't wanna get my hopes up. -CAUTION: Bob Stauffer said yesterday after talking with Jay's dad that it sounded like he would wait til July 1st regardless of who picked him up. Giving up a 3rd to talk to him early is A-ok though, Leopold wasn't returning. I assume they give up more if he signs? -Duane Sutter has a good relationship with Jay from their Florida days.

-I don't think Dion is goin anywhere. Corey Sarich and his 3.6 on the other hand, could be gone. Is it possible the Flames look at moving Langkow and his 4.5?

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#35 Chester Copperpot
June 27 2009, 08:54AM
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http://www.nhl.tv/team/console.jsp?catid=616&id=44055

Free live streaming link to the draft

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#36 OpenAir
June 27 2009, 08:57AM
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RossCreek wrote:

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Now to sign him. -I heard a few days ago that J-Bo is building a house in Calgary. -I refused to comment on the rumors the past few weeks cuz I didn’t wanna get my hopes up. -CAUTION: Bob Stauffer said yesterday after talking with Jay’s dad that it sounded like he would wait til July 1st regardless of who picked him up. Giving up a 3rd to talk to him early is A-ok though, Leopold wasn’t returning. I assume they give up more if he signs? -Duane Sutter has a good relationship with Jay from their Florida days. -I don’t think Dion is goin anywhere. Corey Sarich and his 3.6 on the other hand, could be gone. Is it possible the Flames look at moving Langkow and his 4.5?

Really? Because I know he's building a house here. Unless there's a new burb in Edmonton called Calgary?

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#37 RossCreek
June 27 2009, 08:58AM
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Doug wrote:

I hope Jay Bo doesn’t sign and they look stupid

humantorch wrote:

Would Sutter be dumb enough to trade Phaneuf away before July 1? Could you imagine if he traded The Dion and then JBo signed elsewhere? Wow.

JB wrote:

JayBo agent said he wasn’t signing anywhere before July1 would be great if the traded Phaneuf and then lost JayBo I would pee myself laughing.

leftwinger9 wrote:

If he wasn’t going to sign ’til July 1, why give Leopold away for nothing?

The Menace wrote:

Doesn’t that seem like a lot for just the rights to JayBo, when July 1 is on;y a few days away? If I was him and I’ve come this far, I think I would want to test the Free Agent market.

-Jordan Leopold is a UFA as well. -The Flames won't trade away a top d-man without first making sure Bouwmeester's signed.

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#38 RossCreek
June 27 2009, 08:59AM
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OpenAir wrote:

Really? Because I know he’s building a house here. Unless there’s a new burb in Edmonton called Calgary?

I "heard" it. I don't know it to be true. If you doo in fact know for certain, I'll take your word.

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#39 Mowzie
June 27 2009, 09:01AM
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FML.

Anyone think maybe they shop Kipper and keep the big three d-men?

With that defense, I don't even know if opposing teams will be able to get within 15 ft. of their net with the puck.

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#40 patty
June 27 2009, 09:02AM
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Darryl Sutter has proven to be horrible at cap management, I look forward to the mess that happens over the next few weeks.

Why would Philly not offer a package like that to Florida for his rights if they knew he could sign long term? Because Jay wouldn't sign in Philly. It seems obvious that he is as good as signed long term in Calgary.

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#41 RossCreek
June 27 2009, 09:02AM
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Still doesn't mean he signs there *cautiously optimistic, yet keeps telling self "Self, just wait til he puts pen to paper before getting too excited"& As an aside, as a Flames fan, I said all along if I were the Oil, I'd be goin after him.

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#42 OpenAir
June 27 2009, 09:07AM
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Cameron Abney. Seems nothing more than a future goon.

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#43 tommyjr26
June 27 2009, 09:07AM
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WOW ABNEY!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=georkOF7Vyg

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#44 leftwinger9
June 27 2009, 09:08AM
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Thanks for the tip RC, I didn't realize Leopold was a UFA also. Still stand by what I said though, I don't think Sutter would make that move without being confident they could get JayBo signed.

Great pick-up for the provincial toilet-bowl to the South though.

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#45 Wanye Gretz
June 27 2009, 09:08AM
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*rises from a heap of empty bud light cans and wanders over to the computer sitting on a box under the bridge*

Gee I wonder what the nation looks like on the day when the dra-

OH NO, OH NO........... J-BO! WHY? WHY? WHY?????

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#46 RossCreek
June 27 2009, 09:09AM
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patty wrote:

Darryl Sutter has proven to be horrible at cap management, I look forward to the mess that happens over the next few weeks.

How is he horrible at cap management. They weren't at the cap! He has stated that he actually had another deal lined up at the trade deadline that put them to the cap, but it fell thru. If they didn't suffer so many big-name, high-priced injuries with less than 10 games to go, they wouldn't have had the cap problems. With less than 10 games left, you can't put guys on injured reserve. Therefore, their money stays on the books. If the guys got hurt with 11 games left, noone would've said a thing because it wouldn't have been an issue. Bad luck, thats all. Could've happened to anyone.

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#47 tommyjr26
June 27 2009, 09:12AM
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I am not impressed with the draft thus far. I like MPS. But the last 2 picks in the 3rd round?! Are the Oilers scouting staff smoking the Ninimaaki tabacky again.

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#48 Wanye Gretz
June 27 2009, 09:12AM
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All I can think is that with Kay-Z in the house and players getting moved to teams other than his, Tambo is gonna make a move if for no other reason than to announce a trade in front of The Man.

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June 27 2009, 09:14AM
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No goalies taken is a bit of a suprise. Leads me to believe that the Oil are going to bring a younger 1b starter ie. Harding or Lehtinen

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#50 tommyjr26
June 27 2009, 09:16AM
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The Oilers take from Everett in the WHL Cameron Abney. He is a tough as nails but the scouting report is he needs to improve a lot as a player

http://www.oilersnation.com/2009/06/live-blogday-two-nhl-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-63821#ixzz0Jdz2xkKZ&D

There was a scouting report! I couldn't find anything other than youtube showing lil'Abner one punching a kid.

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