A Bad Day/Where Do We Go From Here?

Jonathan Willis
July 01 2009 11:03PM

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I’ve been a fan of Steve Tambellini for a while now, and he’s passed a few tests well (trade deadline, the draft), but the last 48 hours have not been the highlight of his time as Edmonton’s general manager. Let’s take a look at his work today, starting with his best deal and finishing with Heatley.

The Khabibulin Acquisition

I wasn’t a fan of this move at first. I’m still not a fan, exactly, but I’m coming around to some degree. Let’s try and look at both sides of the signing.

Taking advantage of the situation: With a ton of capable goaltenders on the market (Khabibulin, Roloson, Biron, Anderson, Clemmensen, etc.) and precious few homes for them, Steve Tambellini stuck to his guns on only handing Dwayne Roloson a one-year contract. Roloson signed a two-year deal with the Islanders, and Craig Anderson signed a bargain contract with Colorado. With some options left, Tambellini promptly signed Khabibulin to a contract for more money and longer term. Was ensuring that the 39-year old Roloson only got one year really worth the extra ten million dollars and two years of term for the 36-year old Khabibulin?

Khabibulin’s track record: Yes, he has a Stanley Cup, and yes, he’s coming off a deep playoff run. Does anyone remember what happened last time he signed a contract after coming off a deep playoff run? He posted an .886 SV% in Chicago and did a lot to submarine the team’s hopes. His play has been so shoddy over the past three seasons that the Blackhawks finally bit the bullet and signed another ‘tender (Cristobal Huet) even though it meant lugging around two massive contracts in a salary cap era. Khabibulin has topped a .910 SV% just once in the last four years. Of the twenty goaltenders who have faced 5000 shots since 2005-06, he ranks 16th in save percentage — among those who ranked higher is Dwayne Roloson, at 12th.

Sharing the workload: Ryan Rishaug of TSN reports that the Oilers plan to have Jeff Deslauriers play 25-30 games next season so they can really see what they’ve got in him. I suppose the 147 games that the 25-year old has played in the AHL and NHL weren’t enough for them to get an accurate read; if they don’t know already then perhaps firing the goaltending coach a few days ago was a good move. Maybe they’ve seen something that the rest of us have missed, but what I see is a 25-year old with a middling AHL track record who has been jerked from team to team since turning pro.

The positives: Despite the first two rather damning points, there is some hope here. Gabriel Desjardins of behindthenet.ca has been doing work on shot quality and expected save percentage, based on the location of shots taken (from NHL game charts). Commenter Doogie on my other site was nice enough to point out Khabibulin’s even-strength numbers over the past two years to me:

  • Expected GAA and save percentage: 2.66 GAA, .899 SV%
  • Actual GAA and save percentage: 2.17 GAA, .918 SV%

That’s a stark contrast, and this will be a good test case. Was Chicago’s defense really that porous? If so, than Tambellini may have a quality keeper on his hands.

The final analysis: This wasn’t the best possible choice, and the term is a little frightening. All of that said, this isn’t an albatross contract either, and the goaltending should be adequate for the next few years.

The Chris Neil Offer

Looking up and down the roster, what do the Oilers need more than anything else? A fourth-line RW from a non-playoff team who provides a nasty physical edge and minimal upside in any other area of the game? I thought so. And, heck, why not make him a three year offer in the 2-million dollars a year range? It isn’t like the Oilers already have a similar player locked up for the next few years at one-third of the money.

Yet, the Oilers were reported by TSN as one of the final teams pushing hard to add Chris Neil to their roster.

Dany Heatley

This stuff honestly couldn’t get made up, it’s that weird. To recap:

  • 50-goal scorer Dany Heatley demands a trade from his team because he doesn’t get along with the new coach (under who the team finally started winning).
  • Despite demanding a trade, Heatley doesn’t waive his no-movement clause; he still demands the right to determine where he gets traded.
  • Edmonton puts together a package that Ottawa finds palatable, and Bryan Murray asks Heatley to waive his NMC to go to the Oilers. Heatley says (through his agent) that he wants to “sleep on it”.
  • At this point, we find out that neither the Oilers nor Senators have been interpreting his contract correctly — the $4 million signing bonus that Heatley is owed won’t be due until the next night. Heatley’s agent, meanwhile, knew this the entire time (I wonder if he wants to be an assistant GM — I can think of two teams that would probably be upgrading in that slot by hiring him).
  • The Oilers dream team flies out to meet with Heatley to persuade him to waive his NMC.

Heatley however, has decided not to waive his NMC to come to Edmonton, leaving Ottawa on the hook for four-million dollars. The reason though seems to have little to do with Edmonton – this from Dan Tencer’s Twitter feed:

Source: Meeting went OK with the Oilers. It's more about Heatley trying put the screws to Ottawa.

At this point, it’s anyone's guess as to what eventually will happen. Ottawa’s in a bad situation, and the Oilers might be able to take advantage of it. Than again, maybe Bryan Murray will return the favour and refuse to deal the winger — which takes us to our final question:

Where Do They Go From Here?

Let’s assume that the Oilers are still interested in a left-winger to play on their top line. If Heatley doesn’t work out, I imagine that Tambellini’s backup plans go something like this:

  • Plan B – Sign Marian Hossa.
  • Plan C – Sign Martin Havlat.
  • Plan D – Sign Marian Gaborik.
  • Plan E – Sign Mike Cammalleri.

Unfortunately, while the Oilers were busy chasing Heatley, the Blackhawks, Wild, Rangers, and Canadiens decided to sign virtually every high-scoring left-winger on the market. Alex Tanguay is probably the next best thing available via free agency, while it’s possible that Alex Frolov or Simon Gagne are available via trade.

Regardless, the Oilers still have some options, but a) they aren’t in the same class as the three top-end guys who signed today and b) it’s anyone’s guess if they’ll still be available when the Heatley saga finally comes to a conclusion one way or the other.

Making The Best of The Situation

All is not lost, though. Heatley may still accept a trade to Edmonton (for good or ill) and while Samuel Pahlsson and John Madden have both been taken off the market, free agent Manny Malhotra is still available and would be a good fit for the Oilers’ third line and penalty kill; he’s big, he’s strong, he can find the defensive zone without the aid of a map and multiple trail guides, and unlike virtually every other forward on the Oilers’ roster he can win a faceoff.

There’s still tomorrow.

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Jonathan Willis is Managing Editor of the Nation Network. He also currently writes for the Edmonton Journal's Cult of Hockey, Grantland, and Hockey Prospectus. His work has appeared at theScore, ESPN and Puck Daddy. He was previously founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue. Contact him at jonathan (dot) willis (at) live (dot) ca.
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#1 MikeP
July 01 2009, 11:10PM
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If the team's bound and determined to get another LW and don't mind not moving Penner, Tanguay seems like a nice complement to O'Sullivan.

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#2 Big Dave
July 01 2009, 11:17PM
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I would pull the offer for Heatley from the table. True, the opportunity to add a quality forward of his calibre is rare, but I can't help but think that moving Cogliano at this stage of the game is a bad decision. I'd be more comfortable with packaging Penner and parts to Philly for Gagne (although Rod Phillips would probably have a seizure trying to keep Gagne and Gagner differentiated) and converting Cogliano to a wing position. Who knows, if Tambellini let's Heatley know that the only team serious enough to make an offer is getting ready to walk away from the table, maybe he'll change his tune. But I hope not.

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#3 Hunter
July 01 2009, 11:17PM
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This will perhaps give legs to the Souray rumours (to LA) that have been reported for the last little while. Perhaps somebody like Frolov (as JW mentions)... and maybe reacquiring Stoll?

I don't see value in continuing to pursue Heatley after everything that has gone on. What sort of reception would he get at Rexall now?

I was a little surprised by the length of the contract given to Kabby... what's with us and 40 year old goalies?!

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#4 Muller
July 01 2009, 11:22PM
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Without Heatley or any other big name coming in this is the same old Oiler team fighting for eighth in March.

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#5 Jonathan Willis
July 01 2009, 11:23PM
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More from Tencer:

Well placed source: "The Oilers are not prepared to give up on the deal."
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#6 jeanshorts
July 01 2009, 11:26PM
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@ Johnathon Willis

Looking up and down the roster, what do the Oilers need more than anything else? A fourth-line RW from a non-playoff team who provides a nasty physical edge and minimal upside in any other area of the game? I thought so.

hahaha. I think this may well be my favorite article you have ever written. Willis spitting hot fire!!! I think Tambo should go home, have a nice long sleep, and pretend like this day never, ever happened.

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#7 Hunter
July 01 2009, 11:26PM
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There has to be more to this than what we're seeing... how can the Oilers still be into it at this point?!

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#8 Jonathan Willis
July 01 2009, 11:27PM
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Muller wrote:

Without Heatley or any other big name coming in this is the same old Oiler team fighting for eighth in March.

Ottawa had a bunch of big names and it didn't get them very far this past season. Big names don't win hockey games; balanced teams win hockey games, and Heatley doesn't bring that by himself.

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#9 Jonathan Willis
July 01 2009, 11:28PM
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@ jeanshorts:

Thank you kindly ;)

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#10 Wacky Wednesday
July 01 2009, 11:29PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

More from Tencer: Well placed source: “The Oilers are not prepared to give up on the deal.”

I dont know whether to cut my losses in time the last 30 hours or to continue hoping. Id imagine the Oilers management is in the same situation. After all the names signed as mentioned above what choices are we left with anyway? Cant Antropov play LW? Not saying I would like it just trying to put my mind at ease so I can find some sleep this evening.

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#11 Wacky Wednesday
July 01 2009, 11:32PM
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I have to believe that Heatley said something to Tambo and Lowe which would lead to the assumption that it can still get done.

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#12 Ender the Dragon
July 01 2009, 11:33PM
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Regarding the 'Bulin Wall acquisition, I'm not sold that it was the best possible scenario but I couldn't reasonably have expected much more from Tambi either. I was pushing just as hard as anyone else for Tambi to stick to his one-year line in the sand with Roli. When Roli and Anderson both signed elsewhere, Khabby became pretty much the next-best option. If $15M through Khabby turning 40 was what it took to get it done, then I guess I can't sit back and criticize too loud. The alternatives could have been far worse. Bottom line, we have a starting goalie this season. Let's be happy for today and worry about the 11-12 season then.

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#13 Wacky Wednesday
July 01 2009, 11:35PM
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Im also surprised that the oilers camp hasnt spoken to the media at all regarding Khabibulin and Roloson.

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#14 alphah
July 01 2009, 11:36PM
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looking at all of Tambellini's history to this point (as far as trades and signings), it seems to start at the Cole/O'Sullivan deal (Good!), and then procedes onto deals like Brodziak for picks and Khabi for 4 years (not good.) At this point I do not see any reason to consider him a better GM than K Lowe.

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#15 Jonathan Willis
July 01 2009, 11:43PM
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@ Ender the Dragon:

J-S Giguere. One of Atlanta's goalies. Manny Fernandez. Craig Anderson. Josh Harding. Jaroslav Halak. Martin Biron. Anterro Niittymaki.

He had some options, whether via trade or free agency. Where is Biron going to play now? Did Khabibulin really need four years?

I can't know what his exact options off that list are, but I'll tell you one - I'm not convinced that Roloson for 2 years would be any worse than Khabibulin for 4. And Roli was much cheaper.

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#16 Muller
July 01 2009, 11:48PM
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@ Jonathan Willis: I know Jon, but thats not what im saying the Oil need someone who can put the puck in the net. We don't have a 40-50 goal scorer who can take us to the next level. Balanced teams in the NHL will put you at 500 hockey.

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#17 Jonathan Willis
July 01 2009, 11:52PM
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@ Muller:

The Oilers do need offense, I agree. On the other hand, this past year:

234 goals scored for (7th in the West) 248 goals scored against (tied for 13th in the West)

I know which one kept this team out of the playoffs.

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#18 esa tikkanen
July 01 2009, 11:52PM
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if i were ottawa i would not pay him the $4 million for breach of contract. let him sue them for it. they have more money and better lawyers than he does. he will get his money, in about 10 years and 6 appeals.

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#19 Wacky Wednesday
July 01 2009, 11:54PM
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@ esa tikkanen: There clearly was no breach of contract though.

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#20 Cam
July 01 2009, 11:57PM
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Some would argue that Khabibulin was the best tender on the market and the Oil picked him up. I am not one of those, but at the end of the day I would not say goaltending is a problem for Edmonton next year. Good enough for me... let's look move on.

All the talk I have been listening to (on 1260) and reading on here has been pretty negative. I think you can lay all of the offseason false starts at the feet of one hole that they keep trying to fill: Left Wing.

They They brought in Penner to be that guy - nope. They tried for Hossa and failed. They traded for Cole - nope. They traded for Kotalik and Hemsky's production dropped. They now try for Heatley - nope.

If they could just fill this one hole on our roster they might be able to concentrate on something else. I do not blame Tambellini for trying to acquire someone that stops the merry go round at Left Wing. It's irritating that these things keep falling through.

I really don't think this team is miles away from being a contender. They aren't one now, make no mistake, but if they could just plug that one hole and stay more or less healthy, they could give some other teams more of a run for their money than they have the last three years.

Keep it coming Tambo. I think you are doing just fine right now.

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#21 BigE57
July 01 2009, 11:58PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

More from Tencer: Well placed source: “The Oilers are not prepared to give up on the deal.”

What did Heatley say to give Oil management hope? More lip service? Heatley may want to put the screws to the Sens but he is inadvertantly doing it to the Oilers now. By toying with them all day they missed out on several other oppurtunities and now the only viable left wing option left is one who seems content just screwing the system.

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#22 Wacky Wednesday
July 01 2009, 11:58PM
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esa tikkanen wrote:

if i were ottawa i would not pay him the $4 million for breach of contract. let him sue them for it. they have more money and better lawyers than he does. he will get his money, in about 10 years and 6 appeals.

Also heatley may get his money in 10 years but guaranteed it would far exceeding 4 million, since it would be the ottawa senators who breached also they would be up against NHLPA's lawyers not Heatley's.

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#23 admiralcarin
July 01 2009, 11:58PM
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@ alphah:

How about the fact that Tambellini didn't give Horcoff almost the same dollars as Heatley gets to be a 1st line centre with 2nd line production?

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#24 Muller
July 02 2009, 12:04AM
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@ Jonathan Willis: Sure....Eliminate the 10 goal BlackHawk Game and where does that put us. The Oil need someone who is given the 1 shot and the puck will go in. The kids are still a couple of years away. Horc is not a natural scorer and Hemsky will pass rather than shoot.

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#25 Jonathan Willis
July 02 2009, 12:05AM
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Well, heck, if we're going to bring Horcoff's name into the mix, wouldn't it be nice if we had a gritty, two-way LW who loved Edmonton in that top-line spot? One who helped the team to a Stanley Cup Finals berth?

That hole was plugged for seven years by one Alberta guy. Since he left two seasons ago, this team has tried at least five diffferent options (Penner, Cole, Nilsson, O'Sullivan, Kotalik), none of whom have worked. And that's not even counting the guys they've tried to land (Hossa, Jagr, Heatley).

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#26 Jonathan Willis
July 02 2009, 12:07AM
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@ Muller:

Why eliminate the blowouts? They happened.

As for a one-shot scorer, I'd absolutely like to see one come, I'm just not under the illusion that it's going to fix this team's woes - especially since the single biggest reason for last year's performance was a miserable PK. Scoring goals doesn't fix the penalty kill, no matter how much Ethan Moreau would like to think it does.

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#27 Archaeologuy
July 02 2009, 12:09AM
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I'm not worried that much about Khabibulin. The way these guys condition themselves a goalie can play into his early 40s. Bulin can be an excellent goaltender and he doesnt have to play out the contract. He can retire and that money comes off the books. I have no issue with our goaltending right now.

Tambi hasnt done a whole lot in his 1st year as GM. Outside of a deal that Lowe helped him pull off and 1 fiery speech at the end of the season he has done diddly squat. I want to believe he has the guts to turn around and say NO to Heatley or Murray, but it doesnt seem that way. He should have been in hot pursuit of Havlat/Gaborik/Cammalleri the second the deadline started. Who am i to say they werent, but there should have been a point where the Oiler Brass decided that they had SOME pride and told Heatley to get stuffed.

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#28 theoil
July 02 2009, 12:10AM
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The Oilers did not miss out on any of the other top wingers through free agency. They made it clear from the beginning the only way they could afford to do this was by shipping salary the other way.

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#29 Jonathan Willis
July 02 2009, 12:11AM
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@ theoil:

Burke sent out Kubina for Exelby to make room for Komisarek. The Oilers could have made a similar move to land a 5MM contract like Hossa's or Havlat's.

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#30 misfit
July 02 2009, 12:11AM
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We dodged a big time bullet with Neil returning to Ottawa.

As for the whole Heatley thing, that was a luxury move, not a necessity. We have two guys who can handle the job in O'Sullivan and Penner. Yes, Heatley would've been an upgrade on both, but that's not going to happen now, is it.

A much more pressing need is that of the 3rd and 4th line center positions. We'll probably be fine if Pouliot/Brule takes Brodziak's spot on the 4th line, but we have nobody to play at #3 unless they're determined to play both Gagner and Cogliano in the middle (not a good idea IMO). What we should do from here is try to pluck someone off the Malhotra/Bonk tree, and if we can, get an upgrade at #4C like Nichol or Betts (neither of whom I'd like to see any higher on the depth chart than that).

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#31 Archaeologuy
July 02 2009, 12:15AM
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@ Jonathan Willis: exactly, the Oilers could have dealt with getting rid of salary any number of ways, and with guys like Hossa only getting 5.X a year, how the heck werent the Oilers in on that?

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#32 Newbie
July 02 2009, 12:15AM
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JW: who are the top 5 pk/faceoff guys that you would go after?

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#33 Cam
July 02 2009, 12:23AM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

Tambi hasnt done a whole lot in his 1st year as GM. Outside of a deal that Lowe helped him pull off and 1 fiery speech at the end of the season he has done diddly squat.

I think firing MacTavish, Peeters, Huddy, and Moores and getting Quinn and Renney in here was pretty friggin good. that trade last year was not coached by Lowe, he said as much point blank in an interview.

He solved the Goaltending problem now he is trying to solve the Left Wing Problem.

@Jonathan I am with you on the Ryan Smyth thing. I like Horcoff and view him much the same way: undervalued.

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#34 admiralcarin
July 02 2009, 12:25AM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

@ Jonathan Willis: exactly, the Oilers could have dealt with getting rid of salary any number of ways, and with guys like Hossa only getting 5.X a year, how the heck werent the Oilers in on that?

Because it seems that you have to be an immediate Cup contender for Hossa to sign with you, if we go by the last two years. I'm so tired of the excuses about guys not wanting to come here because of the winter or the lack of a night life or something...for the $9 million we offered Hossa last year he could have gotten over those things and gone someplace warm in the summer. Guys want to WIN and the Oilers have been perpetually mediocre for the last 3 seasons, with no significant signs of hope. If I hear one more person say that Horcoff or Gagner are ready to be number one centers I'll scream. To me we'd be better off to do what LA and Chicago have done...build a better younger core (which does NOT include Nilsson, Schremp or Pouliot), then gun for some experienced stars in a year or two. Maybe by then they'll actually want to come.

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#35 Archaeologuy
July 02 2009, 12:29AM
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Cam wrote:

I think firing MacTavish, Peeters, Huddy, and Moores and getting Quinn and Renney in here was pretty friggin good

A monkey with a learning disability could have figured out that MacT should have been fired years ago. AND, if he had the stones to do it in the middle or start of the season the year could possibly have been saved.

Cam wrote:

He solved the Goaltending problem

For the most part, there wasnt a problem in Net last year. Goaltending wasnt the reason the Oilers missed the playoffs yet again.

In 1 yr as GM he has done nothing of note that wasnt common sense. Sign one of the best 2 goaltenders available in free agency and fire a coach that should have been fired a long time ago. The further we get from his yr end speech the less enthusiasm i have about Tambi's abilities.

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#36 Archaeologuy
July 02 2009, 12:30AM
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admiralcarin wrote:

Because it seems that you have to be an immediate Cup contender for Hossa to sign with you

sure, for Hossa, obviously not for Havlat or Cammalleri

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#37 Muller
July 02 2009, 12:31AM
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@ Jonathan Willis: Sure it be nice if we had that gritty two way winger back. But that doesn't solve the problem of having a sniper for next year. Remember we made the playoffs because of Van city losing their final game-the year we went to the final. Tambs is smart he'll do something to make us better and a change of guard behind the bench might help too.

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#38 Jodes
July 02 2009, 12:32AM
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Lets just hope that Tambellini puts this behind him, gives his head a shake and goes to work on the 5 areas this team still needs:

1) #1 Center (Sorry Horcs, but you just can't cut it)

2) #1 L Winger (as mentioned)

3) #3 Center (PK/Faceoff guy)

4) Solid stay at home #4-5 Dman. (35 year old Steve Staois just doesn't work anymore)

5) Someone LARGE on the 2nd line thats physical.

Sigh.

Going to be a long off season..

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#39 Victoria
July 02 2009, 12:54AM
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These last 48 hours have sucked rotten bananas.

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#40 admiralcarin
July 02 2009, 12:57AM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

sure, for Hossa, obviously not for Havlat or Cammalleri

Yeah, but we need to dump some useless salary (Penner, Nilsson) before we can go and sign guys all over the place. Don't forget what happened to Calgary at the end of last year when they had injuries and were up against the cap...we won't make the playoffs with only 17 guys in the lineup for games.

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#41 Kurri17
July 02 2009, 01:19AM
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Archaeologuy, you are the type of fan who make it so players don't want to come here. One year and already jumping on the GM. The fans in this city just have zero patience and jump down the necks of people right away. How can some people say we should take the route of the Hawks, Kings, Pens, etc. and suck for a couple years to get draft picks, when they don't have the patience to let management have a single year to try to right the ship. Idiocy.

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#42 nullterm
July 02 2009, 02:13AM
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Trade for someone like Nash instead. He's having trouble getting an extension in Columbus. Maybe Tambo+Katz can meet his demands.

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#43 NW UK Oiler
July 02 2009, 02:33AM
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@ nullterm: If possible, I would love Nash, but I cannot see a deal being made for him this off season.

I also like Tanguay, but he is more of a passer than a scorer, and am not sure he would be a good fit with Hemmer. He has never scored 30 goals in an NHL season and although I like him, he cannot be a priority.

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#44 Oilerfan4Life
July 02 2009, 03:01AM
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Kurri17 wrote:

Archaeologuy, you are the type of fan who make it so players don’t want to come here. One year and already jumping on the GM. The fans in this city just have zero patience and jump down the necks of people right away. How can some people say we should take the route of the Hawks, Kings, Pens, etc. and suck for a couple years to get draft picks, when they don’t have the patience to let management have a single year to try to right the ship. Idiocy.

Im embarrassed to be an Oiler Fan today. When did the Edmonton Oiler fans become so cut throat? We are fighting amongst ourselves. Would you, as a player, want to come here if you saw this? Why get upset at Tambo when the real enemy here is time. Give Tambo a chance. Yeah it sucks what has developed with Heatley but do we know all the facts? NO. Tambo and Oiler management are doing EVERYTHING they can for this team to succeed. Have respect.

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#45 Oilerfan4Life
July 02 2009, 03:02AM
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it was @ Archaeology not Kurr17

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#46 Shaun Doe
July 02 2009, 04:19AM
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The thing that most strikes me as odd about this situation is the continued efforts by the oilers to get this deal finished despite the numerous sources implying that the deal is all but dead. I would think that Tambo can judge the intentions of a player fairly well by now, so if he had the sense that Heatley wanted nothing to do with the Oil he would have most likely moved on by now. The fact that he hasn't leaves me to believe that his meetings and correspondance with Heatly see to hint at a willingness to be Alberta bound...

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#47 Oilerfan4Life
July 02 2009, 04:59AM
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Shaun Doe,

You make complete sense. There is almost an air of real confidence within these negotiations that give me more than a sliver of hope that The Oiler Brass can get this finished. Mostly because as you stated, " I would think that Tambo can judge the intentions of a player fairly well by now, so if he had the sense that Heatley wanted nothing to do with the Oil he would have most likely moved on by now. The fact that he hasn’t leaves me to believe that his meetings and correspondence with Heatley see to hint at a willingness to be Alberta bound…". Katz, as a very successful business man and lover of The Oilers, would NOT invest his kind of money and allow Tambo to remain in charge if he did not feel he was a successful man himself.

Thank you Shaun Doe. Nice post! :-)

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#48 Robert....
July 02 2009, 06:21AM
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Tencers Blog "Source: Meeting went OK with the Oilers. It’s more about Heatley trying put the screws to Ottawa."

This little tidbit Gave me another perspective.

Could it be true? Seeing how Tambo and Lowe are still being optimistic.

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#49 Beukaboom
July 02 2009, 07:03AM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

@ Ender the Dragon: J-S Giguere. One of Atlanta’s goalies. Manny Fernandez. Craig Anderson. Josh Harding. Jaroslav Halak. Martin Biron. Anterro Niittymaki. He had some options, whether via trade or free agency. Where is Biron going to play now? Did Khabibulin really need four years? I can’t know what his exact options off that list are, but I’ll tell you one - I’m not convinced that Roloson for 2 years would be any worse than Khabibulin for 4. And Roli was much cheaper.

At 40 do you think Roli for 2 years is better. I have a feeling the wheels were coming off the Roli train. The one thing not represented in stats is the one cheesy goal per game after making 9 saves. Thats a .900 save percentage but there is no stat for hearbreaking goals. I don't think the term of Bulin's contact is great but he will be in KHL for the 2012-13 season.

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#50 Reagan
July 02 2009, 07:13AM
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Bullin is taking a 3 million dollar pay cut. So really not that bad of a deal for one of the number one guys...

Oilers should let Heatley go. Focus on others like Kotalik, and making a trade to Ottawa to get rid of Penner, for someone else.

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