^^ @ Chester Copperpot: Thats what got this whole Ek convo going in the 1st place ;-)

RossCreek wrote:

Chester Copperpot wrote: All this Eklund talk hand me go over to Hockey Buzz and I found: Eklund Heatley accepting Deal to Edm (E3) (new) “Need we say “cautious optimism”” #126 RossCreek July 1 2009, 9:45 am. Reagan wrote: We all are. Eklund is a joke. -Pressure on Heatley Mounts as Oilers/Hossa Prepare (E3) “Talking to sources right now, I really think that we may see a decision from Heatley by noon, once and for all. At least that would be the professional and right thing to do.” - Eklund ADHD, you say?

didnt know pinging a server counted as talking....maybe im not anti-social huzzah!

Librarian Mike wrote:

Anybody else wonder if, at the last minute, Bryan Murray demanded an additional $4 million from the Oilers as part of the Heatley deal?

cant do that anymore.

but i do wonder that if the sens had to pay the signing bonus, would it be possible for katz to directly pay it back. not as part of the trade itself, but a person to person payback. and would katz do this?

Hmmm...just watching TSN and they are talking about the Sedins, thier agent is JP Barry...same as Heatley. They said that the Sedins controlled that situation. Barry is certainly earning his money these past couple of days.

Chester Copperpot wrote:

Last year this team was going to contend for the divion title and the reason they didn’t according to Oiler many fans was because of MacT. With new coaches, and a year’s expereince under the young guys, it’s not like this team needs to strangle inself in salary cap to be somewhat comptitive. a) Sign Goalie b) Acquire 3rd liner who can win a faceoff.

And replace the three guys you've completely alienated in these trade talks. This is probably one of the most f*cked up situations in NHL history.

Heazues wrote:

but i do wonder that if the sens had to pay the signing bonus, would it be possible for katz to directly pay it back. not as part of the trade itself, but a person to person payback. and would katz do this?

Pretty sure that counts as "illegal."

I need INFORMATION!

Who stopped/delayed the deal? Heatley or Murray? Did Tambo have a copy of Heatley's Ottawa standard NHL contract... or was he working with info that had been merely passed along? If Murray deliberatly withheld info (extra 24 hrs) just to screw the Oilers over, I want him sued!

@ Travis Dakin:

Completely alienated? C'mon these are big boys, they know it's part of the job.

Is it too late to switch gears and go after Hossa? Then those three names that the Oil were willing to part with could be used to find other pieces of the puzzle.

Anyone know if/how to get tsn2 feed on internet?

Travis Dakin wrote:

And replace the three guys you’ve completely alienated in these trade talks. This is probably one of the most f*cked up situations in NHL history.

#306 RossCreek July 1 2009, 12:32 am.

Bob Stauffer just stated that he talked to a player (although not named, it was Penner) who understands that this is a business and is willing to come back and play hard.

Ten bux Heatley’s an Oiler tomorrow.

I don't know where he's going to end up, but that's going to be the hot ticket next season for sure when he comes to town. I think the city should deny him access to hotels here and force him to stay in Nisku or something. No, I'm not being vindictive at all. haha.

Eklund wrote:

OHLUND TO TAMPA e5

Eklund's 1st test of the day. Will he lose his followeres within the 1st half hour?

I'm going to watch TSN. Enough blogging for now... Enjoy the day guys...

MattL wrote:

Heazues wrote: but i do wonder that if the sens had to pay the signing bonus, would it be possible for katz to directly pay it back. not as part of the trade itself, but a person to person payback. and would katz do this? Pretty sure that counts as “illegal.”

probably is. but does the signing bonus count against the cap? if it doesnt would it still be illegal?

@ Heazues: its in the CBA so it can noit be done. As for legal issues hard to prove that 4m$ cash was a birthday present.

Team 1260 now confirming Ohlund to Tampa. 7 years, 22 mil Ohlund to mentor young Victor Hedman Assume he retires with year or two left on contract to lower cap hit.

@ Hemmertime: kinda what i meant. but i didnt know that it was specificly dealt with in the CBA. hence i wasnt sure if it was illegal.

but a b-day present or a very expensive hockey card sale... is hard to prove that it has anything to do with the deal. :P

Heazues wrote:

@ Hemmertime: kinda what i meant. but i didnt know that it was specificly dealt with in the CBA. hence i wasnt sure if it was illegal. but a b-day present or a very expensive hockey card sale… is hard to prove that it has anything to do with the deal.

im sure katz owns a shell company how bout a few bucks in a numbered account? har har

Wish I had tsn2......

wish was at least women's tennis on tsn.

You know, even if the deal goes through...will fans even give him a chance? Will he phone it in until we flip him to wherever he wants to go? Following this is like picking at a sore tooth. It hurts so much, but I just can't not do it.

Ugh...this is too slow today. The NHL needs something like EPL, a transfer window. That way all trades and signings are done within a certain period. That would make things way more interesting.

@ Librarian Mike: hopefully when the dust settles we will have a clearer idea of who did what when, at this point im not sure Heatley had much to do with the delay, I think OTT was ecstatic when they found out they had more time to squeze out one more asset...

@ Sweet Jimmy K: agreed.

Hemmertime wrote:

Wish I had tsn2……

Me too :-(

Mark Spector wrote:

An Eastern Conference scout whose team was in the running for Heatley weighs in on the Dany Heatley situation with this point: “Clearly, Ottawa was willing to take less to ship Heatley to the West. They wanted young, potential stars from Eastern teams. [Andrew] Cogliano is a good player, but they’re taking salary back with [Dustin] Penner.” That means the bar has been lowered now that everyone knows what the Oilers offer was. Maybe the Rangers CAN unload overpaid defenceman Michal Rozsival after all in this deal. “Steve Tambellini must be livid that the names came out in this deal,” said the scout. You can look Andrew Cogliano in the eye if you’re the Oilers GM and say, “Son, you have to give up a god player to get a 50-goal scorer, and you’re that good player. We meant no disrespect.” But Penner? What are you going to say to him? “Well, Dustin, we tried to dump your enormous contract. But looks like we’ll have to keep on pitching.”

Ugh...why do these TSN talking heads think that Tortorella is going to be any harder on Heatley than Quinn would be. He had an issue with Clouston and his request for accountability, Quinn and Torts will shred this guy. Maybe that is what is holding it up, he wants to go to a team with a coach that will toss him softballs.

RossCreek wrote:

Team 1260 now confirming Ohlund to Tampa. 7 years, 22 mil Ohlund to mentor young Victor Hedman Assume he retires with year or two left on contract to lower cap hit.

Correction... as per TSN... $24.5M, 7 years, $3.5M cap hit

Any news on th heatly front? I had to leave for 20 mins

@ Prop Jay: nothing

RossCreek wrote:

RossCreek wrote: Team 1260 now confirming Ohlund to Tampa. 7 years, 22 mil Ohlund to mentor young Victor Hedman Assume he retires with year or two left on contract to lower cap hit. Correction… as per TSN… $24.5M, 7 years, $3.5M cap hit

As per Darren Dreger's Twitter... Ohlund will get 22.5 of the 24.5 in the next 5 years.

Silly Eklund thinks Biron is coming to town.

DanMan wrote:

Gregor I have another question. Did the names of the players involved not come out in the proposed comrie deal to Anaheim? I seem to recall Corey Perry’s name being mentioned. If this is true maybe the idea that this is payback from Murray isn’t so far-fetched.

I would like to think that trying to screw a guy over later, while at the same time damaging yourself (Murray) wouldn't make much sense. There was massive speculation about the names, but most came out after the deal didn't go down. At that point a GM can tell a player it was hogwash, and the player could believe him. I think this case is different. Many reports are that Murray thought it was done. We'll see.Theo Rexam (Nepean) wrote:

I just find that the entire media (not only you Gregor) jumped the gun in regards to an aspect of this story, and are now spewing rhetoric and blaming the NHL and the Senators for misleading everyone.

I'm not sure what rhetoric you are talking about and it certainly wasn't spewed. The biggest concern in this is that the deadline has changed. The deadline was the biggest reason both teams felt the urgency to get it done, and then at last minute it's announced the deadline is different. How does that not seem strange to you. I have no problem admitting I was wrong if it turns out the deal doesn't go down, but I've also heard he agreed verbally, but then didn't sign the sheet. Which is actually understandable.

You can believe what you want but how this has played out doesn't help out either team or Heatley at this moment.

Uncle Geoff wrote:

@ Gregor: How do you feel about Bob McKenzie saying it was “amateur hour” reporting that said it was a done deal, and Dreger’s twitter account telling followers to “stick with who you can trust”…? Not suggesting the comment is leveled specifically at oilersnation.com or you, just wondering what you thought of the comments.

I never read either, but that is normal posturing in the media. They have a good track record, but it isn't perfect either. I'll guarantee that in his time Bob has mis reported something, but like most reporters you have a short memory. And Dreger saying stick to who you can trust, is a good way to keep people coming back. I wouldn't think it was a slag at us, but moreso their direct competition. Just adds some spice to the story in my mind.

Come on sign blaire betts we need a pk specialist

The whole trade is tainted now even if it does go through.

i hope we arent waiting for heatly to say yes or no and leeting everyone walk

Why would the league let their partners report this without quietly correcting them?

Because if they got into the business of correcting the media about things, they wouldn't have time to get any work done?

Great roli's gone now need a goalie :-(

Tyler wrote:

Why would the league let their partners report this without quietly correcting them? Because if they got into the business of correcting the media about things, they wouldn’t have time to get any work done?

Yeah because that is what he meant. Your negative crap doesn't need to be here. Go back to your lame site that no one reads. We don't need your always negative attitude here.