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Jason Gregor
July 01 2009 02:01AM

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What an interesting unofficial start to the Free Agent Frenzy.

I will state for the record that I still stand by my source, because in the time I’ve known him he has never misled me before. If it turns out that Heatley doesn’t come here, then my apologies for getting your hopes up. But know this - the Dany Heatley situation seems fishy on many levels.

For weeks and especially the last few days leading up to today it seemed many felt that his $4 million bonus/lump sum payment was due at midnight on July 1st. Now it turns out it isn’t due until the end of July 1st at 11:59:59. His contract says payment is due on July 1st, but doesn’t specify which day part. I just find it funny that for the past three weeks it has been reported in many places, including TSN, RDS, Sportsnet and both radio broadcast rights holders, as well as non-rights holders, and blogs that the deadline was at midnight Tuesday. Why would the league let their partners report this without quietly correcting them?

It seems that Heatley hasn’t completely said NO to Edmonton; rather that he’d liked to sleep on it. Reading, hearing and being directly told this explanation leads me to believe that he never thought Edmonton was a realistic destination, and that another team would step up, so he never gave it a lot of thought. Then the realization comes that Edmonton is the most interested and offers the best package, so he says yes, albeit briefly, and then decides he needs to think about it.

If that is the case and he wakes up in the morning and feels Edmonton is a good fit, then Oiler fans won’t care. They have been through much worse in recent memory. But if he decides he isn’t interested in coming here, then Senators Fans will suddenly find a great many Citizens of the OilersNation in the refund line at the Dany Heatley fan club. Perhaps Heatley didn't believe Edmonton would be his only choice?

A short memo to Dany Heatley

Why list the Oilers as a team you would go to in the first place? When you submitted the list didn’t you realize then, that everyone one of those teams could be your next team. Shouldn’t you have prepared yourself for that?

No one wins if he decides to veto the deal.

The Senators will be left scrambling trying to find a partner, especially if he doesn’t decide by 10 a.m. MST when free agency begins. The Oilers will have three players who knew they were on the verge of being dealt, but they will remain and play for an organization that was willing to part with them. And the Oilers will have to decide by 10 a.m. if they will pursue a UFA or wait for Heatley to decide if he’d like to play for them.

Oiler fans will be feeling rejected once again and wondering why?

Even if Heatley gets dealt to another team that he prefers, he will still be looked upon as a selfish guy who quit on one team and then refused to go to one that really wanted him. If he wakes up tomorrow and decides E-town is not right for him, I’ll take my lumps from those who will question my accuracy, that is part of the job, but this deal seemed too close to evaporate at the last minute.

Bob McKenzie, who is more connected than anyone, and extremely accurate had the names in a PROJECTED deal earlier than anyone. Normally when he makes a projection it comes true. Bob never once CONFIRMED this deal, but he isn’t one to toss out names and then not have something pan out very often. I know of a great many deals that have supposedly fallen apart at the last second, but in most of those cases the names of people involved were never reported.

Why did all the names get out this time?

And if it wasn’t almost a done deal how come no one from the Oilers denied it?

If everyone thought the deadline was tonight, and there was never a report of a trade with the Rangers before the deadline, if they get a deal done on Wednesday how will that make the NHL look?  And what if Heatley sleeps on it and decides he wants to be an Oiler, will Oiler fans still be upset?

It was an interesting and for me an educational start to the free agent frenzy. Things might not always seem as they appear, even when you are certain of it.

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One of Canada's most versatile sports personalities. Jason hosts The Jason Gregor Show, weekdays from 2 to 6 p.m., on TSN 1260, and he writes a column every Monday in the Edmonton Journal. You can follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/JasonGregor
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#51 Harlie
July 01 2009, 08:15AM
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@ Hemmertime:

more trades can be done on our end to clear up some cap room. You gotta think Tambo and the boys will be extra motivated to think outside of the box especially in light of recent circumstances.

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#52 RossCreek
July 01 2009, 08:16AM
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If I were the Oil, I would've told Murray the deal comes off the table @ noon ET today. Let Dany know he has a new deadline.

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#53 Prop Jay
July 01 2009, 08:19AM
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@ RossCreek: And I would let the rangers know the same so Ottawa get it handed to them

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#54 Reagan
July 01 2009, 08:21AM
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So not your fault Jason. As far as both teams were concerned the deal was done, and that unexpected decision is out of your hands. If the deal is infact on-hold we will see what happens in the next few hours. How is it your fault for that third intagible to ruin something.

The Oilers if they are smart should be pitching on Marian Hossa, and thiat might intrigue Heatley to get his crap together sooner than later. Yes, that means a tough pill to swallow if Heatley says no, but at least minor deals can be made to get rid of salary.

The fun starts in 1.5 hours!!!

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#55 Prop Jay
July 01 2009, 08:23AM
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@ Reagan: I have a feeling that the oil planned on pitching to hossa. Trading souray for something with LA (JJ+) and acquiring heatley. From everything I can read and put togethr this seems to be the case.

I don't know this could all be bs

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#56 Oilerguyforlife
July 01 2009, 08:24AM
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L

Hemmertime wrote:

I bet that 3/4 of the people that are ripping on Greggor read hockeybuzz even for a lark. People fail to realize that a deal was indeed done, especially if Edmonton was a team Heatley agreed to go to. It was just then the meth kicked in and Heatley went all bipolar. But as technically Ottawa said “Ill take it”, Edmonton said “Ill take it”, so all those people using Amateur hour comments (which rip off of Bob McKenzie from TSN, you’re creative) are excessive. To those that say they wont listen to Team1260 again, I guess you wont watch the Oilers then too. We CALLED our players, Oilers management thought it was done deal. We can give our blogger a pass when the GM of our freakin team has the same ideas as him.
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#57 Monday Guy
July 01 2009, 08:24AM
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OK... I'm gonna put a positive, Gumdrop world, spin on it. Lets Say Heatley's Number one choice is NYR. He knows they have an offer on the table and that it's really not that far off. EDM also has a good offer that the Sens are leaning towards. Lets say, for the moment, that EVERYTHING has been blown out of proportion by the media... wierd thought. Even if EDM is Heatley's #2 choice in the entire league, it's his agent's job to try and get him to NYR. If that means bending a couple rules or using a couple tricks and shenannigans.. i guess that's business. That said, at the end of the day it's the best deal for OTT that will be had. There's no one in the room with any Factual information or that's what we'd be discussing. No one has said "Heatley has no interest in coming to EDM". He's just real close to his #1 choice. If that falls through, he might still be moving. He didnt say he wasnt signing, he is just stalling to make sure there's nothing better for him.

... just my take on it

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#58 Evil Ginger
July 01 2009, 08:26AM
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so the nation did well raising money to send Gregor to the draft how about this...If heatley does not have a change of heart we start a "Send Macintyre to Heatleys House Fund" We pay for flights accomodations and weapons

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#59 Oilerguyforlife
July 01 2009, 08:28AM
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Waiting for somthing good to happen to this team actually praying for somthing good to happen to this team

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#60 Prop Jay
July 01 2009, 08:30AM
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@ Evil Ginger: lol, I didn't pay any money for gregor but Macyntyre(SP?) would have my full support.

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#61 Harlie
July 01 2009, 08:33AM
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@ Evil Ginger:

Big Mac wouldn't need any weapons. He'd bich slap Heatley like the snot nosed school girl that he is.

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#62 Wyseguy
July 01 2009, 08:34AM
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@ Chester Copperpot: funny, I was thinking of the exact same meatloaf quote this morning, but I was too ashamed to write it. Kind of a girly tune.

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#63 ronaldo
July 01 2009, 08:35AM
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@ Evil Ginger

Count me in on funding the Macyntyre trip. Also, Phily and Washington are not too far from Ottawa- he could take care of all our unfinished business in one trip.

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#64 Reagan
July 01 2009, 08:36AM
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The funny parts is that half of the Jokers out there that are bashing the Team 1260 and Jason have no idea what they are talking about. These guys have a better insight to anything going on than the jokers at HF Boards or Hockey Buzz. It is funny that 70% of the cybernerds have no real concept of what is really going on. If you were to ask me, TSN, Sportsnet, CHED, and The Team are your best solutions for news, factual and correct information. There is a level and a standard for real and proper journalism methods. These blogs that some of participate are a waste of time. YES they are fun but NOT the correct way of getting your information. Bloggers on these sites are giving bad misrepresentations of what Oiler fans are all about.

Use your heads people.

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#65 SierraRacs
July 01 2009, 08:39AM
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Evil Ginger wrote:

so the nation did well raising money to send Gregor to the draft how about this…If heatley does not have a change of heart we start a “Send Macintyre to Heatleys House Fund” We pay for flights accomodations and weapons

Why weapons, don't you have faith in the "Smackintyre fists of Doom!"™? I think a good hand massage would be better to go with the flight.

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#66 Hemmertime
July 01 2009, 08:40AM
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Now we get to see what Bryan Murray is made of. Does he stick to his guns saying Take the deal or stay here like he has been saying, or take a crappier offer from NYR

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#67 smd521
July 01 2009, 08:41AM
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Check out this kick in the nuts from Spector at Sportsnet: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2009/07/01/spector_heatley_edmonton/

Everyone is ripping on Edmonton, and it angers me.

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#68 SkinnyD
July 01 2009, 08:43AM
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Meh. If I had the extra 24 hours, I'd probably take it. Wouldn't you?

I still want him. I don't give a rat's ass if he's lazy or if this isn't his 1st choice. He scores goals, and could get career highs here with Hemmer feeding him. Screw the defensive responsibility bullcrap. Those guys can be found damn near anywhere (and we have PLENTY). Heatley is a special talent...we haven't had that on a consistent basis since Messier.

Maybe Tambo will pull Havlat out of his buttocks at 10, and tell Heatley to enjoy his stay in New York?

I still heart Gregor.

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#69 Evil Ginger
July 01 2009, 08:46AM
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i guess his sledgehammers are good enough weapons. where can I get coverage on the free agency it looks like sportsnet is showing the baseball game and tsn is showing tennis.

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#70 RossCreek
July 01 2009, 08:47AM
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@ Hemmertime: I don't think the Ranger deal is a ton worse. Brandon Dubinsky is every bit as good as Cogliano, they aren't offering a contract like Penner's instead offering a cheaper Ryan Callahan, and Michael Del Zotto is a top 30 prospect (although Smid is already an NHLer). Now if the Rangers sweeten the deal...

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#71 Uncle Geoff
July 01 2009, 08:48AM
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@ Gregor: How do you feel about Bob McKenzie saying it was "amateur hour" reporting that said it was a done deal, and Dreger's twitter account telling followers to "stick with who you can trust"...? Not suggesting the comment is leveled specifically at oilersnation.com or you, just wondering what you thought of the comments.

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#72 Harlie
July 01 2009, 08:49AM
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Gotta have access to the net or radio all day today. Must stay in on Canada Day. Must stay in jamas. Hope for rain so I have no guilt for not going outside. Hockey trumps interacting with other humans..

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#73 Beukaboom
July 01 2009, 08:49AM
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Could someone cut/paste the Spector article, work blocks that site on our internets.

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#74 Archaeologuy
July 01 2009, 08:53AM
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@ smd521:

It's not like Spector said anything that isnt true.

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#75 RossCreek
July 01 2009, 08:54AM
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@ Uncle Geoff: Pretty sure those comments are taking shots at TSN's competition - SportsNet and TheScore - not 1260 or OilersNation.

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#76 knobert
July 01 2009, 08:54AM
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Specotr is a douche

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#77 knobert
July 01 2009, 08:54AM
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I am not even gonna apologize for the spelling

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#78 Reagan
July 01 2009, 08:55AM
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Courtesy of Sportsnet.ca By Marc Spector

The young, single millionaires don’t want to live in Edmonton. But that’s OK — because the married guys can’t stand it either.

If you ever wonder why the Edmonton Oilers are paying Shawn Horcoff $7 million this season, why Fernando Pisani makes $2.5 million or Steve Staios $2.8 million, take a look at what’s going on with Dany Heatley right now.

You’ve heard of a hometown discount? Those longtime Oilers are getting what we like to call it a “bad town bonus.”

Edmonton is the town where I was born. I live and shovel today in a suburb of E-town.

Boxing promoter Don King once called us Edmonites, but the rest of the country only calls us insane. Imagine, Canadians residing in a place where it gets cold in the winter; where you actually have to learn how to drive on icy streets, and pick up a snow shovel before you leave for work in the morning once in a while.

Heatley wanted out of Ottawa so badly, he demanded a trade one year into in a five-year deal that he had in good faith signed with the Senators, in October of 2007.

What little character Heatley has, he risked in walking away from Ottawa, the team that rescued Heatley from a tragic situation of his own making in Atlanta and took him to a Stanley Cup final just three seasons ago. He closed the door on the Senators when a proper coach walked in the door and demanded actual accountability in what had become the most messed up dressing room in the NHL.

Heatley wore a letter in that dressing room, but he left it on account of coach Cory Clouston, who asks his players to look in the mirror once in a while.

Finding, however, that interest around the National Hockey League was tepid — even for former 50-goal scorers who are low on moral fibre — Heatley found out on Tuesday evening that the only city in the NHL willing to offer anything close to value in trade for his services was a city that he likes even less than Ottawa.

It was, ugh, Edmonton.

There was that Hockey News survey of NHL players a few years ago that placed Edmonton dead last under the heading: Cities you would least like to be traded to.

Then there was Chris Pronger, who came to Edmonton and within one season was playing in his first Stanley Cup final. His wife in Edmonton, and moments after the most successful season of his career, Pronger confirmed to the Oilers that it would be his last one in, yeccch, Edmonton.

“I’ll be in Mexico, warming up,” he told the Oilers. “You’ve got my cell.”

Now, you can add Dany Heatley to the list of those players who would rather crawl back into the dressing room of the team he stiffed, than play for — Woo! What smells? — Edmonton.

The Oilers are the Official Team of the NHLPA each July 1, because each year they drive the price of a couple of free agents through the roof, before the players choose the second richest offer from somebody else. Because, really, who would go to a town where they name their summer sports team the Eskimos.

But if Edmonton isn’t good enough for Dany Heatley, who is it good enough for?

Heatley is a guy on his third chance. A guy who looked Ottawa owner Eugene Melnyk in the eye and pledged allegiance when he was in need of a new, mega-bucks contract in October of ’07, and then threw Melnyk and his Sens under the bus less than two years later.

But if you have any doubt that there is very little interest in a 50-goal scorer who is devoid of character and lacks the “team player” gene, consider this:

In the most attractive trade that Ottawa GM Bryan Murray could muster, after two weeks of burning up the phone lines, he had to take back an absolute bust — at $4.25 million per season! — in Dustin Penner.

The Oilers not only were going to get the best player in this deal, they were dancing with glee as they unloaded the worst one.

There was only one problem: They aren’t the Phoenix Oilers, or L.A. Oilers.

Even native Edmontonians hate it here, let’s face it. Mike Comrie fled. Jay Bouwmeester wouldn’t touch the place. Jason Chimera is far happier in Columbus.

The Calgary Flames are loaded with Edmonton natives, all able to drive home for Christmas, but spared the torture of residing within the 780 area code.

It reminds of this story: When Kevin Lowe was the GM of the Oilers, he once tried to throw a bunch of money at Michael Nylander to come to Edmonton. Nylander promised he would come, then double-crossed not just Lowe, but his own agent when he reneged and chose Washington instead.

It was, history shows, the best deal the Oilers never made.

Oiler fans can only hope the deal for Dany Heatley is never consummated.

Let some other sucker have him. A bigger sucker, even, than Edmonton.

Mark Spector is a columnist for sportsnet.ca

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#79 Chester Copperpot
July 01 2009, 08:56AM
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How late does Heatley sleep?

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#80 RossCreek
July 01 2009, 08:56AM
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Harlie wrote:

Gotta have access to the net or radio all day today. Must stay in on Canada Day. Must stay in jamas. Hope for rain so I have no guilt for not going outside. Hockey trumps interacting with other humans..

2ndeded'd MUST MAKE TIMMY'S RUN NOW! 1HR TO GO

RossCreek says Dany Heatley will be an Oiler by the time Gregor hits the air.

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#81 Uncle Geoff
July 01 2009, 08:58AM
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@ RossCreek: I agree. As I said, not suggesting they are levelled at Gregor or Oilersnation. I just thought the comments came off a bit chippy.

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#82 Librarian Mike
July 01 2009, 08:59AM
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@ Jason Gregor: There are a lot of emotions going around that I do understand with this. The hate towards you is not one of them. I don't get why people think they can rip on you because Heatley is a big flake. Whatever. Keep doing what you do best Jason. You'll be around here far longer than they will.

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#83 RossCreek
July 01 2009, 09:00AM
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RMark Spector wrote:

Heatley wore a letter in that dressing room, but he left it on account of coach Cory Clouston, who asks his players to look in the mirror once in a while.

I've read unconfirmed reports that at their end-of-season exit interviews, Clouston asked Heatley to turn in his 'A' because they were gonna give it to someone that deserved it, and that this is why Heatley dislikes the coach. Could be BS.

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#84 Prop Jay
July 01 2009, 09:00AM
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@ Reagan: Wow that is horrible, I wish the oil would try to lay charges against him or sportsnet for slander.

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#85 Archaeologuy
July 01 2009, 09:07AM
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Prop Jay wrote:

@ Reagan: Wow that is horrible, I wish the oil would try to lay charges against him or sportsnet for slander.

For What? admitting that Shovels are needed in Edmonton and that the Oilers have grossly overpaid a bunch of players just to keep them here?

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#86 Librarian Mike
July 01 2009, 09:07AM
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Prop Jay wrote:

@ Reagan: Wow that is horrible, I wish the oil would try to lay charges against him or sportsnet for slander.

I read it a as being sarcastic in tone, personally. Frankly I thought it was more of a burn on Heatley than anything else.

Don't get me wrong. I was born here and I'll die here. I love Edmonton, but Spector is not wrong in anything he said. This is especially true when he says we dodged a cannonball by not having Heatley sign here.

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#87 Blair
July 01 2009, 09:09AM
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If you read Lowetide's post (he references Darren Millard a bit) it sounds like Murray and Heatley are playing off the Oilers to get a better offer from the Rangers (Mark Staal). If this is true, its pretty shady. You don't tell the Oilers you have a done deal, then go and negotiate with someone else. Murray should be telling Heatley, there is a deal in place, and accept it or reject it. While Murray can be negotiating with the NYR, it seems highly unethical to do so...

How is this any different than Nylander "agreeing to a deal" then going and signing with Washington. Murray has gone down a few notches in my book.

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#88 Chester Copperpot
July 01 2009, 09:10AM
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@ Librarian Mike:

Same. I thought it was directed at all the players who grow up playing hockey in a winter climate and then are too good to live in wintery conditions.

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#89 Reagan
July 01 2009, 09:10AM
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Yeah, Marc is a credible journalist but, I was so tempted to call him out yesterday on Jason's show. Some of the stuff could land him out of a job, or borderline out of covering any Oilers news in the future. I'm surprised the Oilers haven't said anything to him at this point yet. In fact I would be surprised that something may be said on the outset of how Dany Heatley makes his decision today. If in fact Heatley comes to the Oilers we may see some retraction on how he see's things, but on the other hand we may see a canon run loose if he doesn't come here. The selfish comments will fly loose! In a way I find Marc hilarious, but in other ways I see his style hanging by the proverbial nail off the cliff, and he's only using his pinky finger to hold him up.

Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinions, but character defamation is very risky... I guess I'm guilty of bastardising the Hockey Buzzers, and HF Boarders out there, but I think just cause is warranted...

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#90 Chester Copperpot
July 01 2009, 09:11AM
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@ RossCreek:

I'm sure they have.

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#91 Prop Jay
July 01 2009, 09:12AM
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Ok well laying charges for slander is a bit much but the editors at SN must have some standards to keep. I write for a website that is well respected for what they do. If I wrote something that called someone out so badly it would be rejected immediately. Not because it was untrue but because the reputation with that person/artist would need to be upheld. There is a line that people should and should not cross. This is the latter.

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#92 Archaeologuy
July 01 2009, 09:14AM
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@ Prop Jay: Spector's job IS to call people out though.

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#93 Prop Jay
July 01 2009, 09:17AM
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@ Archaeologuy: call people out yes but destroy a city?no.

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#94 oiler icon
July 01 2009, 09:17AM
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there i slept on it ....... nope still p*ssed off

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#95 Chester Copperpot
July 01 2009, 09:19AM
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TSN Text: Sedins re-sign in Vancouver 5 years $6.1/yr

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#96 RossCreek
July 01 2009, 09:20AM
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Spec is on the radio. Not sure why your all mad at him. His article was somewhat tongue in cheek.

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#97 Oilcourntry
July 01 2009, 09:20AM
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well just thinking, heatly is a very good sniper and would love to have him, but i can tell you im begining to shy away if hes going to be this much of a fruit loop, what if he gets here and pulls an ottawa, and decides he doesnt get along with management..... and screws us just like Pronger??? A great player dont get me wrong but is it just going to be problums? something to think about

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#98 Chris
July 01 2009, 09:20AM
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@ Prop Jay: @ Reagan:

Spec's on the radio RIGHT now... He was being totally tounge in cheek.

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#99 Archaeologuy
July 01 2009, 09:21AM
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Prop Jay wrote:

@ Archaeologuy: call people out yes but destroy a city?no.

He hasnt destroyed anything. He has said absolutely nothing that wasnt already known by the whole world.

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#100 Theo Rexam (Nepean)
July 01 2009, 09:23AM
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And you people are giving Mark Spector far too much credit. As if his article could change the opinion of millionaires. He is a nobody to them.

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