WTF? The Dany Edition

Robin Brownlee
July 01 2009 11:04PM

If you're asking me, let's hope the done deal for Dany Heatley that came undone last night stays that way. The Edmonton Oilers will be better off without him.

The best thing the Oilers and GM Steve Tambellini can do today with the free agency season officially underway -- unless that deadline has been reported incorrectly without clarification by the NHL as well -- is yank their offer to the Ottawa Senators off the table and move on.

Let's review . . .

-- Heatley and his agents demand a trade out of Ottawa because Dany Boy is unhappy with the way he's been handled by new coach Cory Clouston. Instead of going to GM Bryan Murray on the down-low, Heatley and his agents go public, forcing Murray's hand.

-- In the days since, Heatley, through his agents, make it known that the Oilers would be one of the teams he'd waive his no-trade clause to go to and it's widely reported by MSM outlets, including TSN, that's the case. Oiler fans work themselves into a lather about landing Heatley.

-- Murray fields offers leading up to the NHL Entry Draft. In the wake of the draft, the Oilers step to the front of the line Tuesday with an offer that includes Dustin Penner, Andrew Cogliano and Ladislav Smid. Dump PDP as part of a Heatley deal? Oilers fans are in a frenzy.

-- Late Tuesday afternoon, with a midnight deadline for a $4-million bonus payment to Heatley looming (or so everybody thought), several MSM media outlets, including Sportsnet, TEAM 1260 and The Score, report that the Oilers and Senators have completed the Heatley swap for Penner, Cogliano and Smid. Done deal. Oilers fans rejoice.

-- Other media outlets, notably TSN and Bob McKenzie, say, "Not so fast." Heatley has yet to approve the deal by waiving his no-trade clause. The done deal starts to unravel. Bruce Garrioch of the Ottawa Sun reports that Heatley has killed the deal. Heatley's agents later clarify Heatley has not killed the deal. He hasn't said no but he hasn't said yes. He wants to "sleep on it." Shunned again, Oiler fans are outraged.

Is that about right?

THE MORNING AFTER

So, as Oilers fans awoke this morning with teeth and fists clenched and cursing Heatley and everybody who reported the done deal, delivering a kick in the collective nuts the way Chris Pronger, Michael Nylander and countless others have done, we're led to believe there's still a chance Heatley might yet give Edmonton his blessing.

Sure, there's still a chance -- if Heatley and his camp can't orchestrate a deal with the New York Rangers before the REAL deadline for the bonus payment ticks by at 11:59 tonight.

Tell me this: how is it that nobody with the Senators or the Oilers had the actual deadline locked down? How is it that the NHL never clarified when the deadline fell? How did everybody get it wrong? Kind of an important detail, don't you think?

That said, and knowing what we think we know today, does the possibility of landing a 40-50 goal player of Heatley's stature trump the red flags that surround him?

While I'm not into the "Dany Heatley's mom wears army boots and dresses him funny" venom that was spewed in Ottawa when he went public with his trade request, for me the answer is no. Not a chance.

The way I see it, the boondoggle that infolded late Tuesday gives the Oilers a chance to reconsider their position, withdraw their offer and run the hell the other way as fast as they can. They should take it.

Ask yourself this: Is Heatley a cornerstone player Tambellini can build his team around for years to come? At $7.5 million per season in a salary cap world, he'd damn sure better be. Are you thinking, "maybe" or are you thinking "no?" Anybody thinking "yes" please raise your hands.

The best thing for the Oilers is that this deal stays undone. Heatley isn't the answer.

RANDOM THOUGHTS

-- It's been suggested that Murray knew the deadline actually fell at 11:59 tonight, but didn't disclose it. The reasoning behind that train of thought is that Murray was using the Oilers to leverage better offers, most notably from the Rangers.

It's also been offered Murray screwed with Tambellini and the Oilers as payback for the Mike Comrie deal that came undone during his days as Anaheim GM -- when Kevin Lowe queered a trade involving Cory Perry with a late stipulation Comrie cough up $2.5 million to complete the swap. In other words, karma is biting the Oilers on the backside.

I'd bet on the former. That, or Murray is grossly incompetent.

-- There's plenty of consternation among Oilers fans that Tambellini now has a problem in the dressing room because Penner, Cogliano and Smid are going to feel unwanted because their names came out in the deal.

Too bad. Get over it. It's part of the gig and part of a business that makes players like Penner, Cogliano and Smid millionaires. The possibility of being traded is part of the package.

Did Penner feel bad because the Ducks didn't match Edmonton's offer sheet? No. He took the money. Still with the Ducks, it seems to me Perry has recovered nicely from being offered up in the Comrie deal that came undone. No?

-- When reporters push to break stories and announce that a deal is done and it goes sideways, they have to wear it. That, like trades for players, is part of the game.

In that regard, it's obvious Jason Gregor of the TEAM 1260, didn't have all of the bases covered in reporting the deal as done.

Fine. Gregor went with his best information and trusted a source and the story went bust. Wrong is wrong. No excuses, but it happens. Own it, as Gregor has, and move on.

That said, there's no excuse for some of the over-the-top crap written by fans and directed at Gregor over what unfolded Tuesday. None.

-- Listen to Robin Brownlee every Thursday from 4 to 6 p.m. on Just A Game with Jason Gregor on Team 1260.

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A sports writer since 1983, including stints at The Edmonton Journal and The Sun 1989-2007, I happily co-host the Jason Gregor Show on TSN 1260 twice a week and write when so inclined. Have the best damn lawn on the internet. Most important, I am Sam's dad. Follow me on Twitter at Robin_Brownlee. Or don't.
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#551 patty
July 01 2009, 06:43PM
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Katz is firing up the jet for a face to face tonight.

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#552 Monday Guy
July 01 2009, 06:44PM
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@ Harlie: LOL - TSN reports Oilers Management group to meet face to face with Heatley tonight

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#553 Jodes
July 01 2009, 06:44PM
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And still no word on faceoff specialist.. What good is our 2nd and 3rd lines if we have to depend on ONE guy to win a faceoff for us?

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#554 JRocks247
July 01 2009, 06:44PM
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@ Lofty: Nope...but we're getting Ottawa's sloppy seconds...and good thing Penner's going the other way. Cuz he'd want to eat it

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#555 Harlie
July 01 2009, 06:44PM
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freakin MTL is on a shopping spree..just signed Gionta now

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#556 OilMessiah
July 01 2009, 06:45PM
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@ Bryant: Bryant wrote:

Mac wrote: I simply will be listening to CHED from now on not because of this latest debacle but because of IMO 1260’s lack luster and consistently degrading programming Go ahead and listen to that collage grad who sits on the fence more then a elected offical. Sometimes when you step out infront you will be left holding a hot grenade.

Agreed. Tencer is a 'tard.

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#557 Mac
July 01 2009, 06:45PM
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@ Bryant. Like I said man, It is not because of Gregors fumble but just strictly because of 1260's programming. I expect them to know more and do more programming specific to their demographic. At least on 630 I don't have to listen to American sports programming.

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#558 RossCreek
July 01 2009, 06:45PM
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DarrenDreger Neil staying in Ott. 4 years 8 mil 5 minutes ago from mobile web RDS says Gionta to Mtl... 5 years, $25 mil. 11 minutes ago from mobile web

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#559 Harlie
July 01 2009, 06:46PM
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Monday Guy wrote:

@ Harlie: LOL - TSN reports Oilers Management group to meet face to face with Heatley tonight

that can only mean one thing. They are going to watch Heatley sign on the dotted line and hand him a 4 mill cheque. No other reason to fly out this late in the game.

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#560 Mac
July 01 2009, 06:47PM
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And I don't think he was sitting on the fence, time and time again he said his source was solid (which it obviously was) and it panned out. Gregor's source, not so much. But that's neither here nor there.

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#561 kingsblade
July 01 2009, 06:47PM
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From Sportsnet: Habs sign Cammalleri, Guerin

Didn't Guerin sign in Pittsburgh?

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#562 Jason Gregor
July 01 2009, 06:47PM
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Rangers seem out of mix for Heatley. There seems to be a late possible three way deal involving San Jose and Minnesota with Ott. San would get Heatley, but no mention of which names moving any direction. Seems this deal might be only way to derail Heatley coming to Edmonton. Unless he shocks everyone and stays in Ottawa.

Sounds like it will go down to wire, and Oilers want a face to face meeting with him. Can't knock them for not going the distance to make it happen. Unless league decides the $4 payment is due later than 10 p.m. MST you'd think this will be rectified tonight.

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#563 Harlie
July 01 2009, 06:49PM
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kingsblade wrote:

From Sportsnet: Habs sign Cammalleri, Guerin Didn’t Guerin sign in Pittsburgh?

I read that at sportsnet and was confused to.

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#564 Jodes
July 01 2009, 06:50PM
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kingsblade wrote:

From Sportsnet: Habs sign Cammalleri, Guerin Didn’t Guerin sign in Pittsburgh?

Maybe they mean Gianta?

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#565 Blair
July 01 2009, 06:50PM
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oh sportsnet, that is Brian Gionta, not Bill Guerin...tight initials, wrong name

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#566 Blair
July 01 2009, 06:50PM
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right, not tight

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#567 LOIL
July 01 2009, 06:51PM
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kingsblade wrote:

Even if we paid Havlat 7 million, we could trade Penner for a bag of used tape.

Nobody will take Penner for over 4 million per no matter how little they have to give up to get him. We live in a cap world now sister.

LOIL

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#568 Al
July 01 2009, 06:52PM
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Mac wrote:

And I don’t think he was sitting on the fence, time and time again he said his source was solid (which it obviously was) and it panned out. Gregor’s source, not so much. But that’s neither here nor there.

They have a night show now and Gregor is ten times better than anything CHED has as live local stuff, so your argument about American programming makes no sense.

And do you work for the Oilers by linking to their site? No bias on your part at all to side with Oiler lover station instead of TEAM 1260.

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#569 Mike76
July 01 2009, 06:54PM
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I've been touting this three way for a while. I just thought the oilers would be in on it. Just went through SJ roster and in the system players. Gotta say that I don't see much that we really need that they would be willing to give up.

@ Jason Gregor:

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#570 tyler
July 01 2009, 06:54PM
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Sportsnet... guerin not gionta... this is why this site can not be trusted.

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#571 gdawg
July 01 2009, 06:54PM
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oilers should cut and run on this heatley deal. dont need another crybaby in copper and blue

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#572 LOIL
July 01 2009, 06:55PM
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@ Mike76: Maybe Setoguchi if they are getting heatley but thats all we need is another sub 180 lb winger.

LOIL

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#573 OvenChicken8
July 01 2009, 06:55PM
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OilMessiah wrote:

@ Bryant: Bryant wrote: Go ahead and listen to that collage grad who sits on the fence more then a elected offical. Sometimes when you step out infront you will be left holding a hot grenade. Agreed. Tencer is a ‘tard.

I like his enthusiasm, sure he can be a homer but he kind of has to be. But at least he has some substance to back up his arguments.

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#574 gdawg
July 01 2009, 06:56PM
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Al wrote:

Mac wrote: And I don’t think he was sitting on the fence, time and time again he said his source was solid (which it obviously was) and it panned out. Gregor’s source, not so much. But that’s neither here nor there. They have a night show now and Gregor is ten times better than anything CHED has as live local stuff, so your argument about American programming makes no sense. And do you work for the Oilers by linking to their site? No bias on your part at all to side with Oiler lover station instead of TEAM 1260.

Guys at CHED are too tight with oilers. Look how Stauffer got nuetered when he signed on there

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#575 Harlie
July 01 2009, 06:57PM
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Mac wrote:

. At least on 630 I don’t have to listen to American sports programming.

yeah your right you don't, but you do have to listen to biased right wing conservative blowhards tout US policy all day. To each his own..

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#576 Jay Gray
July 01 2009, 06:58PM
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Just thinking...this thread might hit 1000...would that be a first for this site?

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#577 bingofuel
July 01 2009, 06:59PM
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@ Jay Gray:

That would definitely be a first.

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#578 LOIL
July 01 2009, 06:59PM
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Do postings about the number of posts count towards the running total ?

LOIL

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#579 Word
July 01 2009, 06:59PM
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Why you shouldn't use Wikipedia to write your school papers:

"Daniel "Dany" James Heatley (born January 21, 1981, in Freiburg im Breisgau, West Germany) is a Canadian professional ice hockey winger currently playing for the Edmonton Oilers of the National Hockey League (NHL)."

Followed shortly by:

"A deal was in place to send Heatley to the Edmonton Oilers on June 30th, but Heatley refused to waive his no trade clause."

I may be out of line, but aren't both of those statements techincally incorrect at the moment?

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#580 Harlie
July 01 2009, 06:59PM
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@ Jay Gray:

no

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#581 GLoKz0r
July 01 2009, 07:00PM
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I'm a little confused... were some of the Oilers brass already previously headed to Ottawa with this "face to face" in mind? Because by my watch, it's 9pm EST, giving them three hours to wrap this up before Murray's deadline.

So if they're only just now hopping on a flight, there's no chance they get a face to face before Midnight.

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#582 Hemmertime
July 01 2009, 07:00PM
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Ottawa -> SJ Heatley, Minny -> Ottawa Burns+bouchard or something less. SJ-> Minny? I cant see either Marleau or Thornton waiving NMC to go to Minny, So would have to be 2-3 decent players. Who?

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#583 darren
July 01 2009, 07:01PM
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Check the Wikipedia history for the Heatley entry .. frozen due to excessive vandalism

lol

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#584 Harlie
July 01 2009, 07:01PM
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@ bingofuel:

perhaps I am mistaken! I thought we hit a g note a few times? My bad, if not.

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#585 Hemmertime
July 01 2009, 07:01PM
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GLoKz0r wrote:

I’m a little confused…

Heatley is in Kewlona

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#586 LOIL
July 01 2009, 07:01PM
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What about sweetening the offer for Dany. If he comes to Edmonton he can have the 2nd "n" in the city's name so he doesnt look like such a douche with only one "n" in his name and Katz renames the team the Edmonto Oilers. If he scores 50 that sounds good to me.

LOIL

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#587 gdawg
July 01 2009, 07:02PM
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I guess players are trying to get big piece of pie before cap goes down. A little disheartening to a fan when u think your team has a player locked in to so many years but that term never comes to fruition. Too much of a business and not enough heart for so many of these players. not like when i was growing up.

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#588 gdawg
July 01 2009, 07:03PM
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GLoKz0r wrote:

I’m a little confused… were some of the Oilers brass already previously headed to Ottawa with this “face to face” in mind? Because by my watch, it’s 9pm EST, giving them three hours to wrap this up before Murray’s deadline. So if they’re only just now hopping on a flight, there’s no chance they get a face to face before Midnight.

hopping on the concorde

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#589 Clay
July 01 2009, 07:03PM
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Your not being fair to the Team 1260 would you sooner them sit back and say there might be something going on but I don't want to discuss it? The only thing Gregor got wrong was he called it done a little too quick. The facts by all other reports are right. I agree a little too much american content but it sure is better than Tenser!

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#590 kingsblade
July 01 2009, 07:05PM
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LOIL wrote:

kingsblade wrote: Even if we paid Havlat 7 million, we could trade Penner for a bag of used tape. Nobody will take Penner for over 4 million per no matter how little they have to give up to get him. We live in a cap world now sister. LOIL

Really? Didn't Ottawa just agree to take him? Didn't Gomez just get moved? The more I see the easier it seems.

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#591 Harlie
July 01 2009, 07:07PM
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LOIL wrote:

LOIL

it's a good thing you sign your name after every post or I would never have figured out who posted for you

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#592 kingsblade
July 01 2009, 07:07PM
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ha Sportsnet just changed that headline.

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#593 Helmerfied
July 01 2009, 07:07PM
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Does anyone else feel like, given everything that's happened, the status of Heater's integrity to date and the excessive amount of force seemingly required to get him to agree to come to Edmonton, this may not make the most sense in obtaining a franchise player? I'm quite surprised the Edmonton brainstrust is still SO sold on getting him to agree given the clear resistance he's put up so far (assuming what we've heard is somewhat accurate)? Shouldn't this be worrying them that he so "matter-of-factly" seems to be avoiding Edmonton at all costs?

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#594 JonW
July 01 2009, 07:07PM
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wow what a crazy day this has been. Still wonder where we are going.

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#595 Word
July 01 2009, 07:10PM
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What does Tambo even say to Heatley when he meets with him?

"Good to have you on board. Oh, just as a heads up, you have some serious apologizing to do to the fans. You're the first man in Oiler history to be hated before being traded to the organization. According to our calculations if you screw up or subsequently demand a trade you will reach Snidely Whiplash levels of villainry and likely be kidnapped for cap space reasons. Again, good to have you on board."

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#596 LOIL
July 01 2009, 07:11PM
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kingsblade wrote:

kingsblade wrote: Really? Didn’t Ottawa just agree to take him? Didn’t Gomez just get moved? The more I see the easier it seems.

He was a small part of a bigger deal. Trading him for a "bag of tape" makes him the sole player going the other direction and no team would do that.

LOIL

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#597 Andrew W
July 01 2009, 07:12PM
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Can anyone confirm the terms/structure of the Khabibulin signing? It'll look much better if it is heavily front loaded...

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#598 Space Moose
July 01 2009, 07:12PM
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Do we know if they are only pursuing Heatley, or is Havlat in the mix. I thought someone said the Oil made an offer

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#599 mattyfinch
July 01 2009, 07:14PM
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sandra the wild rumour maker she/he is tossed out a silly tidbit that she /he made up about the havlat offer which ISNT true.

something like 4 y 16 m LOL cmon now.

its heatley or bust, if u get him, then u go after havlat, not before.

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#600 kingsblade
July 01 2009, 07:14PM
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LOIL wrote:

kingsblade wrote: kingsblade wrote: Really? Didn’t Ottawa just agree to take him? Didn’t Gomez just get moved? The more I see the easier it seems. He was a small part of a bigger deal. Trading him for a “bag of tape” makes him the sole player going the other direction and no team would do that. LOIL

~Right, because I literally meant a bag of tape.~

You're a bit dense aren't you.

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