WTF? The Dany Edition

Robin Brownlee
July 01 2009 11:04PM

If you're asking me, let's hope the done deal for Dany Heatley that came undone last night stays that way. The Edmonton Oilers will be better off without him.

The best thing the Oilers and GM Steve Tambellini can do today with the free agency season officially underway -- unless that deadline has been reported incorrectly without clarification by the NHL as well -- is yank their offer to the Ottawa Senators off the table and move on.

Let's review . . .

-- Heatley and his agents demand a trade out of Ottawa because Dany Boy is unhappy with the way he's been handled by new coach Cory Clouston. Instead of going to GM Bryan Murray on the down-low, Heatley and his agents go public, forcing Murray's hand.

-- In the days since, Heatley, through his agents, make it known that the Oilers would be one of the teams he'd waive his no-trade clause to go to and it's widely reported by MSM outlets, including TSN, that's the case. Oiler fans work themselves into a lather about landing Heatley.

-- Murray fields offers leading up to the NHL Entry Draft. In the wake of the draft, the Oilers step to the front of the line Tuesday with an offer that includes Dustin Penner, Andrew Cogliano and Ladislav Smid. Dump PDP as part of a Heatley deal? Oilers fans are in a frenzy.

-- Late Tuesday afternoon, with a midnight deadline for a $4-million bonus payment to Heatley looming (or so everybody thought), several MSM media outlets, including Sportsnet, TEAM 1260 and The Score, report that the Oilers and Senators have completed the Heatley swap for Penner, Cogliano and Smid. Done deal. Oilers fans rejoice.

-- Other media outlets, notably TSN and Bob McKenzie, say, "Not so fast." Heatley has yet to approve the deal by waiving his no-trade clause. The done deal starts to unravel. Bruce Garrioch of the Ottawa Sun reports that Heatley has killed the deal. Heatley's agents later clarify Heatley has not killed the deal. He hasn't said no but he hasn't said yes. He wants to "sleep on it." Shunned again, Oiler fans are outraged.

Is that about right?

THE MORNING AFTER

So, as Oilers fans awoke this morning with teeth and fists clenched and cursing Heatley and everybody who reported the done deal, delivering a kick in the collective nuts the way Chris Pronger, Michael Nylander and countless others have done, we're led to believe there's still a chance Heatley might yet give Edmonton his blessing.

Sure, there's still a chance -- if Heatley and his camp can't orchestrate a deal with the New York Rangers before the REAL deadline for the bonus payment ticks by at 11:59 tonight.

Tell me this: how is it that nobody with the Senators or the Oilers had the actual deadline locked down? How is it that the NHL never clarified when the deadline fell? How did everybody get it wrong? Kind of an important detail, don't you think?

That said, and knowing what we think we know today, does the possibility of landing a 40-50 goal player of Heatley's stature trump the red flags that surround him?

While I'm not into the "Dany Heatley's mom wears army boots and dresses him funny" venom that was spewed in Ottawa when he went public with his trade request, for me the answer is no. Not a chance.

The way I see it, the boondoggle that infolded late Tuesday gives the Oilers a chance to reconsider their position, withdraw their offer and run the hell the other way as fast as they can. They should take it.

Ask yourself this: Is Heatley a cornerstone player Tambellini can build his team around for years to come? At $7.5 million per season in a salary cap world, he'd damn sure better be. Are you thinking, "maybe" or are you thinking "no?" Anybody thinking "yes" please raise your hands.

The best thing for the Oilers is that this deal stays undone. Heatley isn't the answer.

RANDOM THOUGHTS

-- It's been suggested that Murray knew the deadline actually fell at 11:59 tonight, but didn't disclose it. The reasoning behind that train of thought is that Murray was using the Oilers to leverage better offers, most notably from the Rangers.

It's also been offered Murray screwed with Tambellini and the Oilers as payback for the Mike Comrie deal that came undone during his days as Anaheim GM -- when Kevin Lowe queered a trade involving Cory Perry with a late stipulation Comrie cough up $2.5 million to complete the swap. In other words, karma is biting the Oilers on the backside.

I'd bet on the former. That, or Murray is grossly incompetent.

-- There's plenty of consternation among Oilers fans that Tambellini now has a problem in the dressing room because Penner, Cogliano and Smid are going to feel unwanted because their names came out in the deal.

Too bad. Get over it. It's part of the gig and part of a business that makes players like Penner, Cogliano and Smid millionaires. The possibility of being traded is part of the package.

Did Penner feel bad because the Ducks didn't match Edmonton's offer sheet? No. He took the money. Still with the Ducks, it seems to me Perry has recovered nicely from being offered up in the Comrie deal that came undone. No?

-- When reporters push to break stories and announce that a deal is done and it goes sideways, they have to wear it. That, like trades for players, is part of the game.

In that regard, it's obvious Jason Gregor of the TEAM 1260, didn't have all of the bases covered in reporting the deal as done.

Fine. Gregor went with his best information and trusted a source and the story went bust. Wrong is wrong. No excuses, but it happens. Own it, as Gregor has, and move on.

That said, there's no excuse for some of the over-the-top crap written by fans and directed at Gregor over what unfolded Tuesday. None.

-- Listen to Robin Brownlee every Thursday from 4 to 6 p.m. on Just A Game with Jason Gregor on Team 1260.

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A sports writer since 1983, including stints at The Edmonton Journal and The Sun 1989-2007, I happily co-host the Jason Gregor Show on TSN 1260 twice a week and write when so inclined. Have the best damn lawn on the internet. Most important, I am Sam's dad. Follow me on Twitter at Robin_Brownlee. Or don't.
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#601 LOIL
July 01 2009, 07:14PM
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What about the angle that Heatley doesnt really want to play in Edmonton and would rather play in SJ or NY. Now that doesnt mean he hates Edmonton. Just means its not his first choice. And if i were him i would feel the same way.

So this all doesnt mean that if he comes to Edmonton that he wont fall in love with the city and the team and be happy. It just simply means that its not his first choice right now. Have you guys never taken a risk and had it pay off?

I hardly call him a villain when most people would chose SJ or NY over Edmonton.

LOIL

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#602 heavyd
July 01 2009, 07:15PM
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Maybe heatly will come here seeing that we signed the bullin wall. I'm just hoping that if we don't get heatly I hope we get something for our first line.

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#603 kingsblade
July 01 2009, 07:15PM
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mattyfinch wrote:

its heatley or bust, if u get him, then u go after havlat, not before.

Why? That makes no sense at all.

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#604 Space Moose
July 01 2009, 07:16PM
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@ mattyfinch: Ah right. Forgot reading Sandra Eklunds post

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#605 heavyd
July 01 2009, 07:16PM
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Why do you think that the bullin wall signed here? Gregor? Brownlee?

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#606 LOIL
July 01 2009, 07:17PM
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kingsblade wrote:

kingsblade wrote: ~Right, because I literally meant a bag of tape.~ You’re a bit dense aren’t you.

Haha. What does bag of tape mean ? Means trade him for nothing. Or in other words a salary dump. You are an ex Junior Hockey player i am guessing ? haha. Smarts galore.

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#607 jeanshorts
July 01 2009, 07:17PM
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Gah I'm still so conflicted. This feels like one of those times, when you ask out one of the hottest girl in school, and she slaps you in the face for even thinking of that. But you keep at it, and eventually she says yes just so you'll stop asking. At the end of the day you get to go on a date with a hot girl, but she hated every minute of it and you know it's not going to lead to anything long term. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FEEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#608 gdawg
July 01 2009, 07:20PM
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jeanshorts wrote:

Gah I’m still so conflicted. This feels like one of those times, when you ask out one of the hottest girl in school, and she slaps you in the face for even thinking of that. But you keep at it, and eventually she says yes just so you’ll stop asking. At the end of the day you get to go on a date with a hot girl, but she hated every minute of it and you know it’s not going to lead to anything long term. I DON’T KNOW HOW TO FEEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

feel like the second fiddle oilers have turned into. who wants to come here? no one knows, havent found him yet

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#609 Space Moose
July 01 2009, 07:20PM
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@ jeanshorts: agreed, but shouldn't one be able to "score" with Heater?

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#610 HollaHollaHo'sFoADolla
July 01 2009, 07:21PM
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Wikipedia says he's been traded right at the bottom.

...morons.

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#611 gdawg
July 01 2009, 07:21PM
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@ Space Moose: heatley seems like the girl u want to know, then get to know but find out she has way too many issues to deal with. dump and run tambo

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#612 jeanshorts
July 01 2009, 07:21PM
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@ Space Moose:

haha, fair enough.

Okay, so maybe it's paying for sex? You're scoring but she's just there for the money?

I'm fresh out of good analogies. Excuse me while I finally leave the computer for a while.

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#613 Librarian Mike
July 01 2009, 07:21PM
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@ jeanshorts: You know what we are? We're the guy in that picture who tried to give Megan Fox a flower.

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#614 gdawg
July 01 2009, 07:23PM
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Librarian Mike wrote:

@ jeanshorts: You know what we are? We’re the guy in that picture who tried to give Megan Fox a flower.

then tambo will be the guy goin postal at next gm meeting

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#615 Harlie
July 01 2009, 07:23PM
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Librarian Mike wrote:

@ jeanshorts: You know what we are? We’re the guy in that picture who tried to give Megan Fox a flower.

or that Ogre lookin guy in Goonies

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#616 gdawg
July 01 2009, 07:24PM
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Harlie wrote:

Librarian Mike wrote: @ jeanshorts: You know what we are? We’re the guy in that picture who tried to give Megan Fox a flower. or that Ogre lookin guy in Goonies

oilers could use a guy sloths size

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#617 OvenChicken8
July 01 2009, 07:25PM
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Harlie wrote:

Librarian Mike wrote: @ jeanshorts: You know what we are? We’re the guy in that picture who tried to give Megan Fox a flower. or that Ogre lookin guy in Goonies

Phaneuf?

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#618 Jason Gregor
July 01 2009, 07:28PM
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Mike76 wrote:

I’ve been touting this three way for a while. I just thought the oilers would be in on it. Just went through SJ roster and in the system players. Gotta say that I don’t see much that we really need that they would be willing to give up. @ Jason Gregor:

The three way involves, Ottawa, Minny and San Jose, not the Oilers it seems. But it isn't done, just a deal that might put a wrench in Oiler plans.Andrew W wrote:

Can anyone confirm the terms/structure of the Khabibulin signing? It’ll look much better if it is heavily front loaded…

Andrew it is even across the board. $3.75 million every year for four years.

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#619 mattyfinch
July 01 2009, 07:29PM
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OvenChicken8 wrote:

Harlie wrote: Librarian Mike wrote: @ jeanshorts: You know what we are? We’re the guy in that picture who tried to give Megan Fox a flower. or that Ogre lookin guy in Goonies Phaneuf?

ZINGGGGGGGGGGGG

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#620 gdawg
July 01 2009, 07:29PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Mike76 wrote: I’ve been touting this three way for a while. I just thought the oilers would be in on it. Just went through SJ roster and in the system players. Gotta say that I don’t see much that we really need that they would be willing to give up. @ Jason Gregor: The three way involves, Ottawa, Minny and San Jose, not the Oilers it seems. But it isn’t done, just a deal that might put a wrench in Oiler plans.Andrew W wrote: Can anyone confirm the terms/structure of the Khabibulin signing? It’ll look much better if it is heavily front loaded… Andrew it is even across the board. $3.75 million every year for four years.

not much more than what oilers would have paid roli this coming season. good move oilers

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#621 The Towel Boy
July 01 2009, 07:31PM
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*wakes up from rage enduced coma that commenced roughly around 9:58 PM MST last night*

...wha...whaaat happened? Khabibulin?...Strudwick?...sweet.... Heatley? ....he's what? STILL THINKING ON IT!?!

*twitches, foams from mouth and re-enters rage enduced coma*

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#622 RossCreek
July 01 2009, 07:31PM
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DarrenDreger Sjostrom agrees to 2 year deal with Flames. $750,000 per year. TSN half a minute ago from mobile web Good scoop by Eklund. Madden agrees to 1 year, $2.75 mil deal with Blackhawks. 24 minutes ago from mobile web

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#623 kingsblade
July 01 2009, 07:32PM
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LOIL wrote:

kingsblade wrote: kingsblade wrote: ~Right, because I literally meant a bag of tape.~ You’re a bit dense aren’t you. Haha. What does bag of tape mean ? Means trade him for nothing. Or in other words a salary dump. You are an ex Junior Hockey player i am guessing ? haha. Smarts galore.

Ok then oh brilliant one answer me this. What did Ottawa get that was great enough to swallow the unlivable contract of Penner? Cogliano? Smid? If Penner's contract is as bad as you say there is no way they are enough to force feed it to anyone.

Is it just because they were getting rid of Heatley in the deal? That makes sense. Lets clear up some cap space to fill it with a terrible terrible contract.

They took Penner because they have a need and considered his salary an acceptable cost of the deal. It wasn't some perfect storm where we were magically able to deal Penner away. It could be done again. Might another player have to be included. Maybe, I never said they wouldn't. I made no implications as to the type of deal whatsoever. I was talking about the value needed in return to end up ahead of the Heatley deal. AS IN: IF ALL WE GOT WAS A BAG OF PUCKS FOR PENNER we'd be better off that the Heatley deal. Trade specifics were no part of hte conversation until you chimed in with your feeble minded asinine comment.

If you do not have the reading comprehension skills ot understand a conversation I suggest you stay out of the conversation until someone explains it to you in Dr. Seuss form.

Now go back to your usual tangential comments and you supremely infantile need to sign each post and leave the hockey talk to the grown-ups.

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#624 Word
July 01 2009, 07:32PM
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jeanshorts wrote:

Gah I’m still so conflicted. This feels like one of those times, when you ask out one of the hottest girl in school, and she slaps you in the face for even thinking of that. But you keep at it, and eventually she says yes just so you’ll stop asking. At the end of the day you get to go on a date with a hot girl, but she hated every minute of it and you know it’s not going to lead to anything long term. I DON’T KNOW HOW TO FEEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"One of those times"? How many times has this happened JS? Way to be persistent.

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#625 bigriles
July 01 2009, 07:37PM
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Is the mgmt really going to meet with heatly to try and get him to sign can you say DESPRATE!!!!!!!!

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#626 Oilerguyforlife
July 01 2009, 07:37PM
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@ gdawg: Yep that's what I wanted to say they Are going on katz's wings not a little cessna

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#627 heavyd
July 01 2009, 07:39PM
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Any news on neil?

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#628 mattyfinch
July 01 2009, 07:40PM
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heavyd wrote:

Any news on neil?

4 year 8 mil sign to stay in ottawa

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#629 Helmerfied
July 01 2009, 07:41PM
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heavyd wrote:

Any news on neil?

Signed with Ottawa. $8M over 4 yrs.

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#630 RossCreek
July 01 2009, 07:43PM
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Eklund The Oilers brass are arriving in Kelowna as we speak to meet Heatley. IF it falls apart I am told that the Wild have a shot still. UNLIKELY 4 minutes ago from TweetDeck

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#631 LOIL
July 01 2009, 07:43PM
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kingsblade wrote:

Is it just because they were getting rid of Heatley in the deal? That makes sense.

Yes, it is just because they needed to get rid of Heatley. Because the Oilers im sure said they wouldnt give up Cogs without getting Penner off the books. They would need to make room under cap for Heatley.

Lets clear up some cap space to fill it with a terrible terrible contract.

The Sens ARE NOT tryng to clear up cap space. They have plenty. The oilers DO have cap issues. So Sens have to help out the oilers by taking on penner so oilers have room for heatley. And the reason sens are willing to take on the penner contract is because they are handcuffed by heatley's trade demand. Better a bad contract plus cogs and smid than being stuck with a player that refuses to play for your team.

My last comment on the subject as its not my job to explain basic give/take cap economics to you.

LOIL

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#632 gdawg
July 01 2009, 07:43PM
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Helmerfied wrote:

heavyd wrote: Any news on neil? Signed with Ottawa. $8M over 4 yrs.

thats a bummer. neil would have been a good addition.

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#633 Hemmertime
July 01 2009, 07:44PM
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Eklund says Oiler brass arrive in Kewlona right now. How wrong could he be on that? So where the hell are they

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#634 oil_fan_forever
July 01 2009, 07:44PM
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@ bigriles: If they are meeting with Heatley, and the deal still doesn't take, doesn't this make things much worse for the cogliano/smid/penner relations with the oil?

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#635 ronaldo
July 01 2009, 07:44PM
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Ummm, since we have a couple hours to kill, I'm thinking of a number between 1 and 15.

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#636 Hemmertime
July 01 2009, 07:45PM
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New Game: Where in the world is Steve Tambellini?

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#637 Harlie
July 01 2009, 07:45PM
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Hemmertime wrote:

Eklund says Oiler brass arrive in Kewlona right now. How wrong could he be on that? So where the hell are they

at the McDonalds on 118th ave

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#638 Jay Gray
July 01 2009, 07:46PM
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I'm glad Neil is not coming over...I think we can someone else to fill that role with a cheaper price tag.

On another note, I hope the 'brass' gets this deal done with Heatley. We've gone too far for it not to be done.

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#639 Jay Gray
July 01 2009, 07:47PM
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@ ronaldo: Is it kitty?

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#640 OvenChicken8
July 01 2009, 07:48PM
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Hemmertime wrote:

Eklund says Oiler brass arrive in Kewlona right now. How wrong could he be on that? So where the hell are they

Oh snap, I could have sworn he was in Columbia(~)

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#641 ronaldo
July 01 2009, 07:48PM
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@ Hemmertime

Oooo, I like this game. Sweden, trying to sign Sedins?....doh!

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#642 Hemmertime
July 01 2009, 07:49PM
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ronaldo wrote:

Ummm, since we have a couple hours to kill, I’m thinking of a number between 1 and 15.

Clever, Im only thinking of 15.

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#643 Roz
July 01 2009, 07:49PM
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ronaldo wrote:

Ummm, since we have a couple hours to kill, I’m thinking of a number between 1 and 15.

I'm going to go with 15

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#644 bigriles
July 01 2009, 07:50PM
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oil_fan_forever wrote:

@ bigriles: If they are meeting with Heatley, and the deal still doesn’t take, doesn’t this make things much worse for the cogliano/smid/penner relations with the oil?

You are right but at the end of things this is a business and and player have to remember that.

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#645 Smokin' Ray
July 01 2009, 07:50PM
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Jay Gray wrote:

I’m glad Neil is not coming over…I think we can someone else to fill that role with a cheaper price tag. On another note, I hope the ‘brass’ gets this deal done with Heatley. We’ve gone too far for it not to be done.

Cheaper? $2 Million is a good deal. And you know what to expect with him.

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#646 mattyfinch
July 01 2009, 07:59PM
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sounds like havlat will go to the wild

as might koivu!

leave our heater alone!

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#647 patty
July 01 2009, 07:59PM
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@ Space Moose: Regarding Bulin's contract: I don't think it matters much how it's loaded. He's over 35, so his cap hit still counts even if he retires. It would save Katz a few $$ for buyout reasons if the last year was a lot lower salary than the first, but that's the only advantage it would provide.

The main reason that contracts are front-loaded is so that the player still gets his sacks of cash early on in the deal, but the team softens the cap hit by extending it out by a mile. The player can then retire when he gets older, and would only be making a fraction of his original salary, and his contract will come off the books entirely.

Some one can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but this is my understanding.

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#648 Lofty
July 01 2009, 08:07PM
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Word wrote:

According to our calculations if you screw up or subsequently demand a trade you will reach Snidely Whiplash levels of villainry and likely be kidnapped for cap space reasons

Or

"I am not affraid of sending you to the minors and paying your massive salary because I take dumps bigger than 7.5 million... daily."

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#649 Davem
July 01 2009, 08:07PM
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At the end of the day we got the Bulin wall and a great new coaching staff. Not to mention a pretty good team,it wont bother me if Cogs stays around and we keep Smid. Heatly is delusional if he thinks he will win a cup in New york or San Jose.

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#650 OvenChicken8
July 01 2009, 08:09PM
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Lofty wrote:

Or “I am not affraid of sending you to the minors and paying your massive salary because I take dumps bigger than 7.5 million… daily.”

NMC = cannot be moved to the minors.

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