WTF? The Dany Edition

Robin Brownlee
July 01 2009 11:04PM

If you're asking me, let's hope the done deal for Dany Heatley that came undone last night stays that way. The Edmonton Oilers will be better off without him.

The best thing the Oilers and GM Steve Tambellini can do today with the free agency season officially underway -- unless that deadline has been reported incorrectly without clarification by the NHL as well -- is yank their offer to the Ottawa Senators off the table and move on.

Let's review . . .

-- Heatley and his agents demand a trade out of Ottawa because Dany Boy is unhappy with the way he's been handled by new coach Cory Clouston. Instead of going to GM Bryan Murray on the down-low, Heatley and his agents go public, forcing Murray's hand.

-- In the days since, Heatley, through his agents, make it known that the Oilers would be one of the teams he'd waive his no-trade clause to go to and it's widely reported by MSM outlets, including TSN, that's the case. Oiler fans work themselves into a lather about landing Heatley.

-- Murray fields offers leading up to the NHL Entry Draft. In the wake of the draft, the Oilers step to the front of the line Tuesday with an offer that includes Dustin Penner, Andrew Cogliano and Ladislav Smid. Dump PDP as part of a Heatley deal? Oilers fans are in a frenzy.

-- Late Tuesday afternoon, with a midnight deadline for a $4-million bonus payment to Heatley looming (or so everybody thought), several MSM media outlets, including Sportsnet, TEAM 1260 and The Score, report that the Oilers and Senators have completed the Heatley swap for Penner, Cogliano and Smid. Done deal. Oilers fans rejoice.

-- Other media outlets, notably TSN and Bob McKenzie, say, "Not so fast." Heatley has yet to approve the deal by waiving his no-trade clause. The done deal starts to unravel. Bruce Garrioch of the Ottawa Sun reports that Heatley has killed the deal. Heatley's agents later clarify Heatley has not killed the deal. He hasn't said no but he hasn't said yes. He wants to "sleep on it." Shunned again, Oiler fans are outraged.

Is that about right?

THE MORNING AFTER

So, as Oilers fans awoke this morning with teeth and fists clenched and cursing Heatley and everybody who reported the done deal, delivering a kick in the collective nuts the way Chris Pronger, Michael Nylander and countless others have done, we're led to believe there's still a chance Heatley might yet give Edmonton his blessing.

Sure, there's still a chance -- if Heatley and his camp can't orchestrate a deal with the New York Rangers before the REAL deadline for the bonus payment ticks by at 11:59 tonight.

Tell me this: how is it that nobody with the Senators or the Oilers had the actual deadline locked down? How is it that the NHL never clarified when the deadline fell? How did everybody get it wrong? Kind of an important detail, don't you think?

That said, and knowing what we think we know today, does the possibility of landing a 40-50 goal player of Heatley's stature trump the red flags that surround him?

While I'm not into the "Dany Heatley's mom wears army boots and dresses him funny" venom that was spewed in Ottawa when he went public with his trade request, for me the answer is no. Not a chance.

The way I see it, the boondoggle that infolded late Tuesday gives the Oilers a chance to reconsider their position, withdraw their offer and run the hell the other way as fast as they can. They should take it.

Ask yourself this: Is Heatley a cornerstone player Tambellini can build his team around for years to come? At $7.5 million per season in a salary cap world, he'd damn sure better be. Are you thinking, "maybe" or are you thinking "no?" Anybody thinking "yes" please raise your hands.

The best thing for the Oilers is that this deal stays undone. Heatley isn't the answer.

RANDOM THOUGHTS

-- It's been suggested that Murray knew the deadline actually fell at 11:59 tonight, but didn't disclose it. The reasoning behind that train of thought is that Murray was using the Oilers to leverage better offers, most notably from the Rangers.

It's also been offered Murray screwed with Tambellini and the Oilers as payback for the Mike Comrie deal that came undone during his days as Anaheim GM -- when Kevin Lowe queered a trade involving Cory Perry with a late stipulation Comrie cough up $2.5 million to complete the swap. In other words, karma is biting the Oilers on the backside.

I'd bet on the former. That, or Murray is grossly incompetent.

-- There's plenty of consternation among Oilers fans that Tambellini now has a problem in the dressing room because Penner, Cogliano and Smid are going to feel unwanted because their names came out in the deal.

Too bad. Get over it. It's part of the gig and part of a business that makes players like Penner, Cogliano and Smid millionaires. The possibility of being traded is part of the package.

Did Penner feel bad because the Ducks didn't match Edmonton's offer sheet? No. He took the money. Still with the Ducks, it seems to me Perry has recovered nicely from being offered up in the Comrie deal that came undone. No?

-- When reporters push to break stories and announce that a deal is done and it goes sideways, they have to wear it. That, like trades for players, is part of the game.

In that regard, it's obvious Jason Gregor of the TEAM 1260, didn't have all of the bases covered in reporting the deal as done.

Fine. Gregor went with his best information and trusted a source and the story went bust. Wrong is wrong. No excuses, but it happens. Own it, as Gregor has, and move on.

That said, there's no excuse for some of the over-the-top crap written by fans and directed at Gregor over what unfolded Tuesday. None.

-- Listen to Robin Brownlee every Thursday from 4 to 6 p.m. on Just A Game with Jason Gregor on Team 1260.

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A sports writer since 1983, including stints at The Edmonton Journal and The Sun 1989-2007, I happily co-host the Jason Gregor Show on TSN 1260 twice a week and write when so inclined. Have the best damn lawn on the internet. Most important, I am Sam's dad. Follow me on Twitter at Robin_Brownlee. Or don't.
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#701 ronaldo
July 01 2009, 08:54PM
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#700

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#702 Jason Gregor
July 01 2009, 08:54PM
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LOIL wrote:

I wont post the quote again to save space but yes, Section 11.8 of the CBA clearly says that if a player is traded before his no trade clause kicks in then the new team has the choice to honour the no trade or not to. If interested in the actual quote from the CBA just look at my last post.

I think that is what I said...ha...

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#703 ronaldo
July 01 2009, 08:55PM
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@ ronaldo Doh! (#701)

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#704 kingsblade
July 01 2009, 08:57PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Since Heatley’s contract is in tact now it seems that the Oilers have to honour all parts of the deal, including his no trade clause. But it is a good question

If you read the whole section it should not have even been written as a paragraph. It is NOT clear that the contract has to be acquired prior to the NMC taking effect at all.

Read the two sentences like this:

1.If the Player is Traded or claimed on Waivers prior to the no-Trade or no-move clause taking effect, the clause does not bind the acquiring Club; and

2.An acquiring Club may agree to continue to be bound by the no-Trade or no-move clause, which agreement shall be evidenced in writing to the Player, Central Registry and the NHLPA, in accordance with Exhibit 3 hereof.

Seems like an argument could be made either way, but the NHL seems to favor strict interpretation.

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#705 RossCreek
July 01 2009, 08:58PM
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Whats the record for # of posts again?

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#706 Helmerfied
July 01 2009, 08:58PM
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1 hour till midnight EST - supposed deadline for the Heatley bonus. Nothing like pushing things till the last possible minute. Ugh.

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#707 kingsblade
July 01 2009, 08:58PM
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I should mention that I added the "and", but generally speaking if two sentences follow one another and there is no indication otherwise an "and" can be assumed.

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#708 McCabe
July 01 2009, 08:59PM
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Do you really think in one hour we will actually no one way or the other. Hopefully the oilers brass will make some sort of adress one way or the other shortly after the deadline.

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#709 Jason Gregor
July 01 2009, 09:00PM
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kingsblade wrote:

Seems like an argument could be made either way, but the NHL seems to favor strict interpretation.

I will try to get an answer, but probably won't be tonight.

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#710 LOIL
July 01 2009, 09:00PM
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@ kingsblade:

I respectfully disagree.

I dont see why the CBA would state:

If the Player is Traded or claimed on Waivers prior to the no-Trade or no-move clause taking effect, the clause does not bind the acquiring Club.

And then go on to say, in the very next sentance:

An acquiring Club may agree to continue to be bound by the no-Trade or no-move clause, which agreement shall be evidenced in writing to the Player.

If the second sentence is referring to a NMC that has already kicked in then the first sentence is unnecessary because ALL NMC's would be either honoured or rejected by the new club regardless of whether it was kicked in at the time of the trade.

It reads to me that there is no mention of a NMC that has kicked in and both sentences are pertaining to a NMC that has not yet begun.

Just my opinion.

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#711 kingsblade
July 01 2009, 09:00PM
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I just noticed the Havlat/Wild thing. Boo.

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#712 ronaldo
July 01 2009, 09:01PM
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*sticks head in oven due to nonending cba chatter*

Common 10pm, hurry the hell up.

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#713 Lofty
July 01 2009, 09:01PM
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I think kingsblade should win a prize for being post #711 on here.

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#714 Heavy G
July 01 2009, 09:02PM
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AMEN.

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#715 Lofty
July 01 2009, 09:03PM
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ronaldo wrote:

*sticks head in oven due to nonending cba chatter* Common 10pm, hurry the hell up

Ronaldo, just be glad your on CST and EST. I went to sleep last night thinking the Heater was an Oiler!

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#716 mattyfinch
July 01 2009, 09:03PM
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so if heatley bottlenecks maybe a souray for marleau deal could be ironed out.

any thoughts?

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#717 Hemi989
July 01 2009, 09:03PM
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Lets get this deal overwith so we can sleep tonight

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#718 kingsblade
July 01 2009, 09:03PM
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LOIL wrote:

If the second sentence is referring to a NMC that has already kicked in then the first sentence is unnecessary because ALL NMC’s would be either honoured or rejected by the new club regardless of whether it was kicked in at the time of the trade.

That is the argument for the other side. As I said, there are arguments for both sides. The argument for my side, however, allows the NHL to claim that waiving a NMC once means you are waiving it forever, which does not usually follow with contracts. Which do you think the NHL prefers?

The CBA is not a good document. That is also a pretty well known fact.

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#719 Helmerfied
July 01 2009, 09:03PM
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The debate is whether or not Ottawa will trade him if they have to pay him the $4M bonus. They obviously want to trade him but if they plan to keep him if they're forced to pay the bonus, then he must be moved within the hour. If that's the case, I assume we'll know something either way in the next 1-2 hours.

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#720 LOIL
July 01 2009, 09:04PM
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@ kingsblade: I think you are right that it is very wordy and could be interpreted several ways. Hopefully Gregor can get a solid answer for everyone.

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#721 Cory Dakin
July 01 2009, 09:04PM
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So the Wild can lure Havlat over and the Oilers have to bend over backwards to try to convince any free agent to even think about coming to Edmonton. How is it that Minnesota is a more attractive destination for players than Edmonton? I just don't get it.

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#722 Hemi989
July 01 2009, 09:05PM
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Well said helmerfied

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#723 jayoilfan
July 01 2009, 09:06PM
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I think it falls through (good for oil i think, I don't really want heaters baggage) and they get screwed over for other snipers (havlat? boo to the wild).

The best news is they ahve good veteran goal tender in khabibulin. very good news and I like the terms.

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#724 RossCreek
July 01 2009, 09:06PM
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martinhavlat on twitter Thanks to all Hawks fans for your love and support over the last 3 years. Will never forget your generousity and the great playoff run! 3 minutes ago from web Excited to be in Minny where I was welcomed and appreciated by management. The real story about what happened in Chicago to come out. 5 minutes ago from web

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#725 duke
July 01 2009, 09:06PM
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I'm just happy to be part of all this.

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#726 LOIL
July 01 2009, 09:06PM
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Cory Dakin wrote:

So the Wild can lure Havlat over and the Oilers have to bend over backwards to try to convince any free agent to even think about coming to Edmonton. How is it that Minnesota is a more attractive destination for players than Edmonton? I just don’t get it.

Havlat is scared of bears...

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#727 jt in Oilertown
July 01 2009, 09:06PM
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anybody have an extra F5 key?

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#728 Cory Dakin
July 01 2009, 09:08PM
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@ jt in Oilertown: I had no idea that f5 was the refresh button... My life just got so much simpler!

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#729 RossCreek
July 01 2009, 09:09PM
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FROM BRUCE GARIOCH Havlat - Six years, $30 million from Wild. He's excited about new GM and coach plus the possibility to win. @ jt in Oilertown: LOL

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#730 oilerzz
July 01 2009, 09:09PM
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50 minutes and counting

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#731 RossCreek
July 01 2009, 09:09PM
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Cory Dakin wrote:

@ jt in Oilertown: I had no idea that f5 was the refresh button… My life just got so much simpler!

Wha?

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#732 LOIL
July 01 2009, 09:09PM
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Not understanding Havlat to the Wild. They just replaced one band-aid with another. Altho at least the new band-aid didnt turn down 7+ million.

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#733 duke
July 01 2009, 09:09PM
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LOIL wrote:

Cory Dakin wrote: Havlat is scared of bears…

Havlat is scared of Da Bears. That's the reason he left.

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#734 kingsblade
July 01 2009, 09:10PM
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RossCreek wrote:

FROM BRUCE GARIOCH Havlat - Six years, $30 million from Wild. He’s excited about new GM and coach plus the possibility to win. @ jt in Oilertown: LOL

What the hell. I would love Havlat at 6 over Heatley at a gazillion, and they get him for 5?

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#735 RossCreek
July 01 2009, 09:10PM
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RossCreek wrote:

Cory Dakin wrote: @ jt in Oilertown: I had no idea that f5 was the refresh button… My life just got so much simpler! Wha?

*staring at monitor in amazement*

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#736 ronaldo
July 01 2009, 09:11PM
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Don't feel bad about F5 key, by the time this is done I won't have a "R" left on my blackbe y...sh*t!

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#737 Cory Dakin
July 01 2009, 09:12PM
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@ RossCreek: Me too! I haven't been able to reply to anything because I've been going from page to page just hitting the refresh button

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#738 RossCreek
July 01 2009, 09:12PM
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ronaldo wrote:

Don’t feel bad about F5 key, by the time this is done I won’t have a “R” left on my blackbe y…sh*t!

Good1 :-)

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#739 jt in Oilertown
July 01 2009, 09:14PM
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Glad I could help, boys!

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#740 McCabe
July 01 2009, 09:15PM
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45 minutes wtf is tambo a klowe doing to heatley

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#741 patty
July 01 2009, 09:15PM
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@ Cory Dakin: in firefox, you can right-click on a tab and choose 're-load all tabs' and do them all at once. It blew my mind when I learned that earlier today. It has literally saved me seconds.

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#742 Heazues
July 01 2009, 09:16PM
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@ patty: you can do that in explorer too,

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#743 jt in Oilertown
July 01 2009, 09:17PM
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patty wrote:

@ Cory Dakin: in firefox, you can right-click on a tab and choose ‘re-load all tabs’ and do them all at once. It blew my mind when I learned that earlier today. It has literally saved me seconds.

Just tried it in IE (yeah, I'm stuck in the 20th century), and it has the same function. Look at the Nation turning into a bunch of techies!

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#744 David S
July 01 2009, 09:17PM
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Cory Dakin wrote:

I had no idea that f5 was the refresh button… My life just got so much simpler!

Unless you have a Macbook Pro. Then you just turned up the sound. That's the sound of sweet, sweet trade talk. Mmmmm...

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#745 Travis Dakin
July 01 2009, 09:18PM
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@ Cory Dakin: I am ruining my trip in Greece because I can't get off this computer. It is 6 in the morning and people are waking up and can't believe I'm still up. I'm that "Canadian guy that sits at the computer and reads about hockey." I can't stop!!!! JUST SIGN THE DEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#746 idrinkPilsner
July 01 2009, 09:18PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

kingsblade wrote: Seems like an argument could be made either way, but the NHL seems to favor strict interpretation. I will try to get an answer, but probably won’t be tonight.

Thanks Gregor. I am new here since the Heatley rumours started and I just wanna say so far great job man.

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#747 Cory Dakin
July 01 2009, 09:19PM
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@ patty:

My head is now spinning

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#748 patty
July 01 2009, 09:19PM
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Nice. Nice. F6 brings you right to the address bar too. OK enough of this. 40 minutes guys. Hurry up with the tea.

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#749 Travis Dakin
July 01 2009, 09:19PM
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David S wrote:

Unless you have a Macbook Pro. Then you just turned up the sound

This is my gift... this is my curse.

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#750 Mike76
July 01 2009, 09:19PM
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Bouwmeester is tossing Phaneuf's salad right now while they do the dirty @ The French Maid in DT Calgary.

Kiprusoff is pulling a Michael jackson on the kid that imitates him behind the net @ home games.

And Iginla, well he's at home with the wife and kids knowing that Sutter blew his load on too many high priced guys on the back end and is trying to figure out who he is going to pass the puck to or get a pass from.

For some reason I have no empathy for the Flamers as this is going to blow up in their faces.

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