WTF? The Dany Edition

Robin Brownlee
July 01 2009 11:04PM

If you're asking me, let's hope the done deal for Dany Heatley that came undone last night stays that way. The Edmonton Oilers will be better off without him.

The best thing the Oilers and GM Steve Tambellini can do today with the free agency season officially underway -- unless that deadline has been reported incorrectly without clarification by the NHL as well -- is yank their offer to the Ottawa Senators off the table and move on.

Let's review . . .

-- Heatley and his agents demand a trade out of Ottawa because Dany Boy is unhappy with the way he's been handled by new coach Cory Clouston. Instead of going to GM Bryan Murray on the down-low, Heatley and his agents go public, forcing Murray's hand.

-- In the days since, Heatley, through his agents, make it known that the Oilers would be one of the teams he'd waive his no-trade clause to go to and it's widely reported by MSM outlets, including TSN, that's the case. Oiler fans work themselves into a lather about landing Heatley.

-- Murray fields offers leading up to the NHL Entry Draft. In the wake of the draft, the Oilers step to the front of the line Tuesday with an offer that includes Dustin Penner, Andrew Cogliano and Ladislav Smid. Dump PDP as part of a Heatley deal? Oilers fans are in a frenzy.

-- Late Tuesday afternoon, with a midnight deadline for a $4-million bonus payment to Heatley looming (or so everybody thought), several MSM media outlets, including Sportsnet, TEAM 1260 and The Score, report that the Oilers and Senators have completed the Heatley swap for Penner, Cogliano and Smid. Done deal. Oilers fans rejoice.

-- Other media outlets, notably TSN and Bob McKenzie, say, "Not so fast." Heatley has yet to approve the deal by waiving his no-trade clause. The done deal starts to unravel. Bruce Garrioch of the Ottawa Sun reports that Heatley has killed the deal. Heatley's agents later clarify Heatley has not killed the deal. He hasn't said no but he hasn't said yes. He wants to "sleep on it." Shunned again, Oiler fans are outraged.

Is that about right?

THE MORNING AFTER

So, as Oilers fans awoke this morning with teeth and fists clenched and cursing Heatley and everybody who reported the done deal, delivering a kick in the collective nuts the way Chris Pronger, Michael Nylander and countless others have done, we're led to believe there's still a chance Heatley might yet give Edmonton his blessing.

Sure, there's still a chance -- if Heatley and his camp can't orchestrate a deal with the New York Rangers before the REAL deadline for the bonus payment ticks by at 11:59 tonight.

Tell me this: how is it that nobody with the Senators or the Oilers had the actual deadline locked down? How is it that the NHL never clarified when the deadline fell? How did everybody get it wrong? Kind of an important detail, don't you think?

That said, and knowing what we think we know today, does the possibility of landing a 40-50 goal player of Heatley's stature trump the red flags that surround him?

While I'm not into the "Dany Heatley's mom wears army boots and dresses him funny" venom that was spewed in Ottawa when he went public with his trade request, for me the answer is no. Not a chance.

The way I see it, the boondoggle that infolded late Tuesday gives the Oilers a chance to reconsider their position, withdraw their offer and run the hell the other way as fast as they can. They should take it.

Ask yourself this: Is Heatley a cornerstone player Tambellini can build his team around for years to come? At $7.5 million per season in a salary cap world, he'd damn sure better be. Are you thinking, "maybe" or are you thinking "no?" Anybody thinking "yes" please raise your hands.

The best thing for the Oilers is that this deal stays undone. Heatley isn't the answer.

RANDOM THOUGHTS

-- It's been suggested that Murray knew the deadline actually fell at 11:59 tonight, but didn't disclose it. The reasoning behind that train of thought is that Murray was using the Oilers to leverage better offers, most notably from the Rangers.

It's also been offered Murray screwed with Tambellini and the Oilers as payback for the Mike Comrie deal that came undone during his days as Anaheim GM -- when Kevin Lowe queered a trade involving Cory Perry with a late stipulation Comrie cough up $2.5 million to complete the swap. In other words, karma is biting the Oilers on the backside.

I'd bet on the former. That, or Murray is grossly incompetent.

-- There's plenty of consternation among Oilers fans that Tambellini now has a problem in the dressing room because Penner, Cogliano and Smid are going to feel unwanted because their names came out in the deal.

Too bad. Get over it. It's part of the gig and part of a business that makes players like Penner, Cogliano and Smid millionaires. The possibility of being traded is part of the package.

Did Penner feel bad because the Ducks didn't match Edmonton's offer sheet? No. He took the money. Still with the Ducks, it seems to me Perry has recovered nicely from being offered up in the Comrie deal that came undone. No?

-- When reporters push to break stories and announce that a deal is done and it goes sideways, they have to wear it. That, like trades for players, is part of the game.

In that regard, it's obvious Jason Gregor of the TEAM 1260, didn't have all of the bases covered in reporting the deal as done.

Fine. Gregor went with his best information and trusted a source and the story went bust. Wrong is wrong. No excuses, but it happens. Own it, as Gregor has, and move on.

That said, there's no excuse for some of the over-the-top crap written by fans and directed at Gregor over what unfolded Tuesday. None.

-- Listen to Robin Brownlee every Thursday from 4 to 6 p.m. on Just A Game with Jason Gregor on Team 1260.

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#901 dragon
July 01 2009, 10:24PM
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dw wrote:

@ dragon: I would want more than just Marleau for Penner, Cogs and Smid and I don’t think we want anything to do with Cheechoo. His 50 goal season is a distant memory at this point. But Marleau and a depth guy would be interesting.

good point. did ryan clowe signed anywhere?

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#902 Fiveandagame
July 01 2009, 10:24PM
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900!!! wow, we really don't like Heatley now...

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#903 Mike76
July 01 2009, 10:25PM
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Stofford just said that Melnyk has a reputation for getting vicious in the dressing room. Take it from bob not me. he did not suggest the specifics I have, but bob did suggest that melnyk may be the issue along with Clouston.

@ ScubaSteve:

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#904 RossCreek
July 01 2009, 10:25PM
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Word wrote:

Heh. Could you imagine if Heatley was legitimately considering Edmonton but wanted to watch the message boards to see if Oiler Fans are actually as insane as everyone says they are? I wonder if we convinced him that it’s safe…

LOL

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#905 Dave
July 01 2009, 10:25PM
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I think its obvious Heatley didn't want to come out and say he had decided to stay in Ottawa rather than go to Edmonton. He doesn't waive, knowing Murray already stated that post July 1 if he was still a Sen he would remain a Sen.

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#906 Skinnedknee Crysby
July 01 2009, 10:26PM
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Everyone seems to be thinking negative about this but let me give a positive take:

This goes to tomorrow and Ottawa pays the $4 million. Murray then says that he wants more for Heatley since he had to pay. But, the Wild took Havlat, and NYR took Gaborik leaving who as confirmed competition? No one. Could the Oilers turn the table on their would-be trade partners and offer less now that there may be no other serious takers on Heatley?

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#907 Kevin Darby
July 01 2009, 10:27PM
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does anybody know if the oilers brass even worked to sign another forward there wasn't even rumors about other players it seems they had a bonner for Heats and stopped trying foe others I would like to find out at least whom they made other offers to Bozzos

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#908 heavyd
July 01 2009, 10:28PM
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It is weird that i still want Heatly?

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#909 RossCreek
July 01 2009, 10:28PM
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Mike76 wrote:

Stofford just said

who?

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#910 Mike76
July 01 2009, 10:28PM
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Tencer is suggesting that Ottawa is going to stick it back to him, because now the power in the situation has changed back to Ottawa. Bob says when you have a battle between a Billionaire and a Millionaire, his money is on the Billionaire.

i told you it was Melnyk.

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#911 RossCreek
July 01 2009, 10:29PM
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Skinnedknee Crysby wrote:

leaving who as confirmed competition?

San Jose, LA

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#912 Hemmertime
July 01 2009, 10:29PM
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oiler icon wrote:

f no team could beat our current offer why the hell should we up the ante as far as everybody know this is the best deal on the table

Agreed

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#913 ScubaSteve
July 01 2009, 10:29PM
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@ heavyd:

Nah, I'm sure if he comes here, all will be forgiven when he scores his first hat-trick, I can't even remember the last time an Oiler had a hat trick..... in one game.....

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#914 Hemmertime
July 01 2009, 10:30PM
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heavyd wrote:

It is weird that i still want Heatly?

I still do too, and Bertuzzi

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#915 Mike76
July 01 2009, 10:31PM
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Didn't Cole have one last year? Gagner too.

ScubaSteve wrote:

@ heavyd: Nah, I’m sure if he comes here, all will be forgiven when he scores his first hat-trick, I can’t even remember the last time an Oiler had a hat trick….. in one game…..
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#916 Archaeologuy
July 01 2009, 10:31PM
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So Havlat and Gaborik are off the market. Gaborik, in fact, has gone to the Rangers. Now that the Rangers have filled the void they wanted to fill on their top line I think its safe to say that NO ONE is trying to get Heatley and his insanely high contract. So...why would the Oilers stick by their original offer for the guy? Retract the offer, switch out cogs and throw in Nilsson or a lower level prospect. The Oilers are only bidding with themselves at this point and Heatley doesnt really want to come here. Retract the offer and substitute a less valuable one and move on.

The guy obviously doesnt want to be here, so lets just target another top line forward on another team and move on.

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#917 Mike76
July 01 2009, 10:32PM
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Stauffer....oops!!!

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#918 jeanshorts
July 01 2009, 10:33PM
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@ Harlie: All I know is that in my eyes Heatly is looking worse and worse the longer he drags this crap out. If he REALLY wanted out of Ottawa that badly would he have held out like this? Perhaps he thought all 29 other teams were going to go ass over tea kettle with offers trying to get him? And when that didn't happen he died a little inside?

I'm really worried about this turning into another Prongergate. We finally land a legit superstar only to have it blow up in our faces once again, and we're left to try and pick up the pieces, once again.

I'm with David Staples; why not just bite the bullet, suck for a few seasons (it's like we haven't had more than enough experience dealing with that), and groom some top end prospects.

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#919 OvenChicken8
July 01 2009, 10:33PM
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Murray: "Dany, we'll see you in September."

Heatley: "Uh, no you won't, trade me right #$!&*@% now!"

Murray: "Been there done that, meet Mr. Suspension. We'll let you know what's happening June 29th 2010."

Heatley: "But that's not fai..." -click-

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#920 Chris
July 01 2009, 10:33PM
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ScubaSteve wrote:

Nah, I’m sure if he comes here, all will be forgiven when he scores his first hat-trick, I can’t even remember the last time an Oiler had a hat trick….. in one game…..

Captain Moreau... last season.

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#921 dw
July 01 2009, 10:34PM
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@ Archaeologuy: SJ had an offer on the table before the Sens accepted the Oilers trade proposal. We would still have to field an offer that would be more attractive than their proposal.

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#922 heavyd
July 01 2009, 10:34PM
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I'm hearing that he wanted ottawa to pay the 4 million and not the oilers but is still willing to come here, so I am wondering if he tells murray to make the trade, or he will show up at training and wreck havoc on the team if Ottawa doesn't trade him. Cause the only way that Ottawa can suspend him is if he doesn't show up to training camp, so who knows maybe he does want to come here, or maybe he is just trying to save face.

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#923 Mike76
July 01 2009, 10:34PM
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The original piece by Brownlee is now 12 hours old and a whole bunch of crap has happened since.

I wonder what Robin's take is on the issue now that we are 12 hours later and much has been speculated.

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#924 Archaeologuy
July 01 2009, 10:34PM
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@ dw: what did they offer?

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#925 heavyd
July 01 2009, 10:34PM
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dw wrote:

@ Archaeologuy: SJ had an offer on the table before the Sens accepted the Oilers trade proposal. We would still have to field an offer that would be more attractive than their proposal.

I guess we had a better trade than sanjose if ottawa went with us and not them.

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#926 Ender the Dragon
July 01 2009, 10:35PM
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Sheesh! Go on vacation for one freakin' day and the world falls apart without me. If anyone had mentioned yesterday that we would sign the 'Bulin Wall today for $16M and no one on the Nation would even give it serious discussion, I would have called you a loser (or Eklund) and set phasers to IGNORE.

I'm still not sure about whether I like that signing, but I am sure about one thing.

Heatley's decision to come here having anything at all to do with the $4M bonus is a huge load of crap.

If this is only about the $4M and Heater signs tomorrow, Katz will quietly make some arrangement with Ottawa to reimburse them the money and still honor the original deal, so there is no chance that Dany delaying a night is costing Ottawa a dime.

This is all really about Heatley being a spoiled brat who needs either therapy or a reality check. At this point, I don't think the Oil can win this deal no matter what happens. Overall, though, I think I'd be happiest if Heatley spends the coming season in Ottawa and sucks mightily on the 3rd line in the 11 games he plays in. About 7 points on the season would be choice, I think.

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#927 ScubaSteve
July 01 2009, 10:35PM
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@ Chris:

Yeah, now I remember, and Mike76 was right too, Sam had one vs Colorado. I've tried to block out most of last year. The booze helps

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#928 oilerzz
July 01 2009, 10:36PM
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let him rot

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#929 Andrew W
July 01 2009, 10:36PM
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@ ScubaSteve:

On January 18th (2009), el Capitaine Ethan Moreau scored a hat-trick against the Yotes. Several months later, it was made public he did it while one of his hands was broken. I still have a soft spot for that guy and think he's a hell of a tough player.

(Close runner up: Erik Cole potted three against Washington on Jan. 13th, five nights earlier. Another odd side-note is that Steve MacIntyre had one more goal than Ovechkin that night.)

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#930 Chris
July 01 2009, 10:36PM
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Why would you piss off guys like Kevin Lowe, Steve Tambellini, and Pat Quinn if you wanted to be an Olympian?

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#931 jeanshorts
July 01 2009, 10:37PM
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Andrew W wrote:

Another odd side-note is that Steve MacIntyre had one more goal than Ovechkin that night

I'm still mopping up tears of joy from that night.

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#932 dw
July 01 2009, 10:39PM
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@ Archaeologuy: It was "The Fourth Period" that reported the SJ offer over on the Puck Daddy blog at Yahoo. I don't know what was offered but I would imagine that Setoguchi would have been part of the package.

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#933 Mike76
July 01 2009, 10:39PM
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Very good point. Either there is way more to this or the guy has totally smoked way too much BC green while on summer vacation in BC. @ Chris:

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#934 heavyd
July 01 2009, 10:39PM
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jeanshorts wrote:

Andrew W wrote: Another odd side-note is that Steve MacIntyre had one more goal than Ovechkin that night I’m still mopping up tears of joy from that night.

That was a sweet goal too, it was like from 50 feet out lol.

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#935 OilMessiah
July 01 2009, 10:39PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

So Havlat and Gaborik are off the market. Gaborik, in fact, has gone to the Rangers. Now that the Rangers have filled the void they wanted to fill on their top line I think its safe to say that NO ONE is trying to get Heatley and his insanely high contract. So…why would the Oilers stick by their original offer for the guy? Retract the offer, switch out cogs and throw in Nilsson or a lower level prospect. The Oilers are only bidding with themselves at this point and Heatley doesnt really want to come here. Retract the offer and substitute a less valuable one and move on. The guy obviously doesnt want to be here, so lets just target another top line forward on another team and move on.

Very good point. Honestly, i would say screw him. Discussion on 630 about going after LeCavalier. Personally, I would go for Ales Kotalik...7G in 19games and a good one timer. Haven't reviewed who is left out there, but at least Kotalik WANTS to be in Edmonton.

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#936 Kevin Darby
July 01 2009, 10:39PM
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Who else did we make offers to nobody because the brass are dumb why send Lowe to meet him he destroyed more deals then anybody Did we talk to Havlat Gaborik Hossa I've heard nothing of this these two had there head up Danny's ass all day

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#937 Librarian Mike
July 01 2009, 10:39PM
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@ Robin Brownlee:

Hey Robin. What a day this has been. Thanks for being a voice of reason through all this. Hopefully Tambellini is getting the psychic vibes you've been sending and walks away. Reading the boards has been fun though.

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#938 ScubaSteve
July 01 2009, 10:40PM
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jeanshorts wrote:

Andrew W wrote: Another odd side-note is that Steve MacIntyre had one more goal than Ovechkin that night I’m still mopping up tears of joy from that night.

Is that what the kids call it now? "tears"?

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#939 Fiveandagame
July 01 2009, 10:40PM
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@ Chris: I think he just played himself off the team for his "playing" of these two franchises.

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#940 Chris
July 01 2009, 10:40PM
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@ ScubaSteve:

It's a few years back, but I was at RX1 when Ryan Smyth scored a natural hat-trick in just two minutes and one second against San Jose...

And here we are, years later, still looking for a first line left winger to replace him...

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#941 Jodes
July 01 2009, 10:40PM
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Like Dany Heatley really cares if he makes the Olympic team or not.. right..

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#942 heavyd
July 01 2009, 10:41PM
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For some reason I think that when we wake up tommorrow, Heatly will be an oilers.

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#943 Bob Loblaw
July 01 2009, 10:42PM
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How many of you were "WOO HOO!" last night when we had Dany and now are "SCREW YOU"?

I'm on board if Dany shows up here and plan on cheering the Oilers all the way to the Cup.

I also agree that we should swap out Cogliano for Nilsson in the trade.

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#944 heavyd
July 01 2009, 10:43PM
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Kevin Darby wrote:

Who else did we make offers to nobody because the brass are dumb why send Lowe to meet him he destroyed more deals then anybody Did we talk to Havlat Gaborik Hossa I’ve heard nothing of this these two had there head up Danny’s ass all day

I wonder if lowe asked him for half of the 4 million bonus for him to come to Edmonton, and that is what messed up the deal, lol.

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#945 heavyd
July 01 2009, 10:44PM
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Does this mean that Ottawa stills wants to trade him, and if they do, then maybe we can give up less then we did already.

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#946 Chris
July 01 2009, 10:44PM
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heavyd wrote:

I wonder if lowe asked him for half of the 4 million bonus for him to come to Edmonton, and that is what messed up the deal, lol.

ZING!

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#947 Hocknee Fann
July 01 2009, 10:47PM
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@ Mike76: Mike - its "Stauffer"

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#948 OilMessiah
July 01 2009, 10:47PM
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Bob Loblaw wrote:

How many of you were “WOO HOO!” last night when we had Dany and now are “SCREW YOU”? I’m on board if Dany shows up here and plan on cheering the Oilers all the way to the Cup. I also agree that we should swap out Cogliano for Nilsson in the trade.

Agree with swapping Nilsson for Cogs. I would imagine that the brass would have dangled Nilsson before Cogs in the first place.

The irony of Dany thinking that the NYR and SJ were the primary targets is that his behaviour has likely spooked them off (aside from NYR spending a crap load of money on Gaborik). Who would welcome a player like this into their dressing room?

And, if this is some grand scheme by Heatley to screw Melnyk, do you think that Dany has given any thought to what Katz may be thinking about him?

Unfortunate that an organization like ours, which arguably has displayed plenty of class over the years, is chasing someone who has displayed such an utter lack of it in the past 48hrs.

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#949 Andrew W
July 01 2009, 10:47PM
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Yikes - look who has egg on his face now...

Gagner had his hat trick much later than Moreau's, on March 19th against Colorado. Maybe I forgot about it because the boys went on a 2-6 run after that game, derailing the playoff run. My auto-memory-erase kicked in a game early, it seems.

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#950 The Towel Boy
July 01 2009, 10:47PM
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Chris wrote:

It’s a few years back, but I was at RX1 when Ryan Smyth scored a natural hat-trick in just two minutes and one second against San Jose… And here we are, years later, still looking for a first line left winger to replace him…

I was totally there...the place exploded.

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