More on Dany Heatley / Somebody Make This Stop

Jonathan Willis
July 11 2009 01:31PM

Dan Barnes' article in the Edmonton Journal this morning gives us yet another depressing update/non-update on the Dany Heatley situation.

According to Barnes' source, the Oilers have no deadline for a resolution to the Heatley situation, and they haven't given a deadline to the Ottawa Senators or Dany Heatley, either.  According to Barnes, Heatley's camp wants at least two other options, and while Murray is negotiating with two other NHL teams there's no particular reason for those teams to be in much of a hurry to acquire the Senators forward.

Meanwhile, Heatley himself remains ensconced in his summer home (see video above), comfortably removed from both the situation and the beating his reputation is taking in the media.

Other than that, the situation remains at a standstill, as do the Oilers.  In fact, if the season started tomorrow the only roster changes to the team would be swapping out Ales Kotalik, Kyle Brodziak, and Dwayne Roloson while adding Nikolai Khabibulin - not the sort of forward movement fans were expecting from G.M. Steve Tambellini.

There haven't even been much in the way of rumours of other movement, beyond an ill-advised attempt to overpay Senators fourth-liner (and Heatley critic) Chris Neil on a multi-year contract.

Last season, Steve Tambellini made some good moves (notably the Erik Cole trade), but for much of the season stood pat evaluating while the Oilers struggled.  He's gotten largely a free pass for that; after all, it wasn't clear if he, Lowe, or Daryl Katz were in control of ths situation.  He doesn't deserve and he certainly won't get a similar free pass if he fails to make substantial moves this summer.  Hopefully, the situation won't come to that.

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Jonathan Willis is Managing Editor of the Nation Network. He also currently writes for the Edmonton Journal's Cult of Hockey, Grantland, and Hockey Prospectus. His work has appeared at theScore, ESPN and Puck Daddy. He was previously founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue. Contact him at jonathan (dot) willis (at) live (dot) ca.
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#1 Milli
July 11 2009, 01:36PM
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I wish we would move on.

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#2 hamburgler
July 11 2009, 01:42PM
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I would think if Tambo found a better option he would move on. I dont think there is a better option for a scorer out there right now.

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#3 ronaldo
July 11 2009, 01:54PM
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This situation is as frustating as turning left on 109 st off 107 ave......GO ALREADY!!

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#4 West SideMike
July 11 2009, 01:56PM
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Heatley must think the Oilers organization is run by a bunch of idiots. Who else would give him this much leash? He's obviously just waiting for an offer from someone else....anyone else. He doesn't want to be here, but he still wants to leave himself the option in case nobody else wants all the baggage he brings. I say we finally cut the cord with this guy and let him rot.

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#5 heavyd
July 11 2009, 01:59PM
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Who are the other two teams, or is Murray just saying that. And I think we sould just step away from Heatly, unless we can get him in the next 48 hours. Otherwise let's try and fill other holes, and maybe see what other people can do on the top line.

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#6 Death Metal Nightmare
July 11 2009, 02:00PM
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a) why should Heatley care about any of this crap? sure, the fans pay his salary but the fans seem to have this sour-poopy-diaper tone all the time about how this needs to get resolved ASAP for their own sanity.

b) as we all know, the Oilers have built an atrocious roster of overpaid players due to numerous reasons (fan pressure, lacking pull in free agency, geography, demographics, Pronger trade, etc, etc). buying themselves out of it isnt going to happen this off-season. theyre a fringe playoff team at best even with Heatley. which leads to them building a core. whats left in the UFA pool that can help build your "core" as opposed to just putting in inconsistent plug-in players (Kotalik) who leach dollars over a term? not much. especially with the cap/contract situation of the Oilers.

c) sticking with Heatley (as opposed to some fans wanting to "move on") is about building a "core" of players. if it doesnt happen, what else are they going to chase through trade/UFA? Souray for a second-liner and a D-man? eh.

Hemsky right now is their only "core" forward. Gagner is not even close to ready for first line minutes and Horcoff is an offensive "passenger" that Hemsky feeds perfect PP passes to for whiffed/shanked one-timers.

if they dont get someone to play with Hemsky this off-season that is a Legit first liner, its one more year of his gravy deal down the toilet (whats that say about the organization). and its going to be another long, mediocre season - with mediocre things to look forward to. have to give Tambo credit for actually chasing Heatley. cross your fingers.

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#7 jt in Oilertown
July 11 2009, 02:11PM
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Not sure who many of you read Bill Simmons on ESPN, but he answered a mailbag question yesterday that has some strong parallels to the Heatley situation - the ongoing Brett Favre saga. I propose we follow this lead and impose a "Dany Heatley proof-of life" embargo here at ON.

Q: As a Vikings fan, I liken the Favre fiasco to a South American kidnapping. Until I get proof of life (Favre at Vikings training camp holding that day's newspaper), I'm just going to ignore the contradicting stories that come out. While I wait, I'm Favring (flip-flopping daily) on whether I want this to happen or not. If Jeter were suddenly cut by Hank Steinbrenner, and was rumored to want to play for Boston as payback, would you be on board? -- Scott K., Fairborn, Ohio SG: Of course! I'd absolutely want us to add a washed-up shortstop with no range. We could platoon him with Nick Green. I can honestly say, now that Roger Clemens' baseball career has ended in complete and total disgrace, I'd welcome any athlete on any of my teams who would make them better. If I could talk myself into Stephon Marbury, anything's possible. So I am a bad person to ask on this front. When Johnny Damon split for the Yankees, that proved to me that these guys are just laundry and it's stupid to say, "I could never root for Player X." Anyway, I like your "proof of life" idea, and it's a solid concept for the sports media to try out for one calendar year, since we have morphed into a culture that now analyzes things before they happen or as they're happening instead of after they definitely happened. What if we tried out an embargo policy for all sports "news" for one year? Everything gets a 72-hour window; after that, we can't mention it again until it happens. Like the Brett Favre/Vikings thing: Once it became a possibility, we would have had 72 hours from that point forward to break it down. After that? Embargoed until we get proof of life (in this case, a Favre news conference in Minnesota). You think I'm kidding, but chew on it for a second. How much easier would it be to follow sports with that proof-of-life embargo in effect? Think of all the Favre stories you avoided and ignored over these past six months. Think of all that wasted energy. Think of all the dumb conversations you had to endure on sports radio or a talking head show. It all could have been wiped away. Same for this Ricky Rubio/Minnesota saga. We get it. He might not come to the States; he might come. He might get traded; he might stay. We get it. Let us know when he makes a decision and he's holding up that newspaper. Until then, I don't care.

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#8 Jason
July 11 2009, 02:14PM
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I think an internal deadline would be the best option for the Oilers. That lets Danny know that he either makes a decision to waive the no trade and play for the Oil or he returns to his old team where he definitly wont be very well like at all. I think if Danny knows he only has one for sure option by a certain timeline he will make a decision cause i dont think he want to return to Ottawa!

This could also put a lot more pressure on Brian Murray to push this deal through. Especially if he isnt getting any better offers. He will look like a tool now in the fans eyes if he gets a far worse package! He needs to go public and say he is either going to Edmonton or staying in Ottawa and he is done trying to look for another deal! Heatley has handicapped both teams and its time both teams take a stand with the spoiled brat! I think Ottawa owes us that much especially if they were the ones who leaked the players involved in the deal!

The fact that Tambo is still in on this deal makes me think that he has NOTHING else shaking and this is his best and maybe only way of getting 3 more players off the books. The fact that we are in a position of vulnerbility tells every other team out there that they can bend us over a barrel to get a deal done! And apparently Tambo isnt allowing that to happen so we are in limbo waiting for Ottawa to find a better deal.

If i was Tambo id call Dany and say "Listen man, you intially stated you were looking to play a bigger role on a team and thats why you requested a trade intially. You arent going to find a better opportunity to play a HUGE role on a hockey team than you could in Edmonton" We want you, the fans still kinda want you, but the longer you stall on this the harder it is for us to put a positive spin on it for the fans" You need to shit or get off the pot" You have until the end of July to say yes otherwise we are moving to plan B" (Unfortunatly there probably isnt a plan B but make him call our bluff) If he says no then the fans arent going to be mad at Tambo...he tried to land him and did everything he could.

Murray in turn calls Danny and says "i heard Tambo gave you to the end of July...im fielding no more calls for trades and you either go to Edmonton or get ready to be booed all year in Ottawa" We have a deal in place to shed some other salary to make room for you whether you wanna play here or not!!" (Even though they probably dont)

If he says no....MOVE ON!! Id like the guy but i want this to end. The crappy part that i have to repeat is i fear we have no alternate plans to better this team. If thats the case explain to Oilers fans that the future of the team is bright but we need some patience to develop players like, Gags, Eberle, MPS, Nilsson,Cogs, etc!

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#9 mercs
July 11 2009, 02:16PM
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The only reason i think the Oilers are wasting there time with Heatley is to unload Penners contract, sad it might come at the expense of our pride and dignity.

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#10 Victoria
July 11 2009, 02:20PM
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Time to break out the ol' paper bag. As if last season wasn't embarrassing enough for Oilers fans, this Heatley crap is the icing on the cake.

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#11 Sweet Jimmy K
July 11 2009, 02:32PM
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I have a buddy going to Kelowna next weekend, I will get him to donkey punch Dany if he can find him.

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#12 GLoKz0r
July 11 2009, 02:42PM
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2008-09 and its off season just may be one of the most humiliating and hard to swallow seasons that I've had to endure as a fan.

....I'm beginning to understand the psyche of the bandwagoner. This season is about the closest I've ever been to giving up.

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#13 ScubaSteve
July 11 2009, 02:59PM
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As much as I'd love a high scoring LW, this is getting pathetic. My hope is that Tambo is leaving that offer on the table while putting together a bigger plan. Maybe once the plan falls into place, Tambo revokes the offer, makes 2 or 3 deals, and leaves Ottawa in the lurch. That's pretty optimistic, but what else do we have right now?

I thought I saw on The Score that Mathuei(sp) Roy got signed by Columbus, can anyone confirm that?

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#14 ryan
July 11 2009, 03:11PM
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This makes the Oilers look bad. GET OVER HEATLY TAMBO. We can thank Lowe for the mess we have as a so called hockey team. I'd rather go watch the Drayton Valley Thunder in the AJHL.

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#15 Kent
July 11 2009, 03:12PM
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I just wanted to add that I think all this is hilarious.

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#16 Archaeologuy
July 11 2009, 03:26PM
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if Tambi is this willing to bend to Heatley's will when he isnt even an Oiler, imagine the BS he'd get away with if he actually came here!

*so tempted to say he could get away with murder, but...*

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#17 MattL
July 11 2009, 03:38PM
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ryan wrote:

This makes the Oilers look bad. GET OVER HEATLY TAMBO. We can thank Lowe for the mess we have as a so called hockey team. I’d rather go watch the Drayton Valley Thunder in the AJHL.

I guess that's why you're on Oilers Nation reading another article about Heatley and commenting on it, right?

Personally, I'd still take Heatley anytime. As soon as they fix the CBA to say that asking for a trade when you have an NMC completely and permanently revokes your NMC and any input you may have into your final destination.

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#18 Godzilla
July 11 2009, 03:43PM
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Worst offseason ever...

Does anybody know if Simon Gagné has a no-trade clause? He's a pretty good left-wing and the Flyers are looking for salary cap space. Just asking.

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#19 mercs
July 11 2009, 03:56PM
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Gagne no way to injury prone.

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#20 esa tikkanen
July 11 2009, 04:02PM
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Does anybody else here wish the Oilers had signed Zanon and Jay Mckee for a combined cap hit of 2.6 million? that would be a much better bottom two than smid and staios for $1 million less. if those two salaries could be dumped along with nillson and that would have paid for kotalik too...

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#21 Greg MC
July 11 2009, 04:19PM
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Patience, Grasshoppers...

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#22 Jay Gray
July 11 2009, 04:37PM
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I say screw it and go after Kessel...I see it the only 'realistic' move that Tambo can make to get a 1st rate playter...altough I don't think Philly-K is quite up to 1st rate status yet, he's close.

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#23 Word
July 11 2009, 04:38PM
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The nicest thing Heatley has ever done is stayed "mum" on the subject over the last weeks. He clearly doesn't want to go to Edmonton, but by not actually saying it out loud, he's giving Tambo the chance to maintain some dignity for the Oilers and make it look like the team was the one that decided to move on.

Nobody wants this to reach the point where he says, "No, definitely not Edmonton." We've had enough of that recently in our fair city, and it's reaching the point where a "Preferably not Edmonton" followed by a chorused rebuttle of "fuck you then" could feel like a win for the river city (or at least its increasingly elusive dignity).

I wonder if he's as flabbergasted as we are that Oilers management isn't leaping at the opportunity to put put a positive finish on what has otherwise been an embarassing and pathetic debacle.

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#24 Bob Cob
July 11 2009, 04:48PM
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MOVE ON ALREADY! Give Heatley one less option in Edmonton, Tambellini is going to screw this up really nice if he keeps on the current path. At this rate I would rather have the team we finished last year with. Get a brain Tambellini!!

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#25 vern
July 11 2009, 04:50PM
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The oilers have some work to do, but they are not the only ones. The sharks, for example, only have 16 NHLers signed. They have 55.5 mil comitted to those 16 players with contracts still pending to Marcell Goc and Tomass Greiss. The Flames are Weak up front after the top line and only have 3 mill cap space. Chicargo is ok this year but, will be up tight aganst the cap next year. Plus they have to resign Kane and Towes next year. Dallas is a marginal team asthings stand. Colorado and Pheonix are not playoff teams at the moment. L As hopes all depend on goaltending. Same as columbus. Anaheim and Vancover could go either way. So as things are if the oil can't land a big name player, a few small moves should be enough to at lest put them in playoff contention. In my opinion there is no need to panic just yet.

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#26 Victoria
July 11 2009, 04:51PM
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MattL wrote:

I guess that’s why you’re on Oilers Nation reading another article about Heatley and commenting on it, right? Personally, I’d still take Heatley anytime. As soon as they fix the CBA to say that asking for a trade when you have an NMC completely and permanently revokes your NMC and any input you may have into your final destination.

Problem is, if that were the case and he had to move to Edmonton, what's stopping him from just demanding another trade. Then we're just on Ottawa's position... or our own with Pronger.

Nope, I'd rather have someone who actually wants to play on this team. We've been burned enough, already.

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#27 ryan
July 11 2009, 04:51PM
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Heatly did not waive his no-trade clause to come to Edmonton twice. You think that the GM of an NHL team flies out to Kelowna to meet a player, do you think that he didn't ask him if he wanted to play or not?! Wake-up and smell the reality of the situation. We should be glad that we didn't have to give up Cogs.

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#28 ScubaSteve
July 11 2009, 04:54PM
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vern wrote:

In my opinion there is no need to panic just yet.

~But we haven't made any moves besides a new GM, new coaches, a new goalie coach, a new farm coach, and a new goalie.

We need to totally overhaul the team every year we don't win a cup, don't we? Shouldn't we run around screaming like Animal from the muppets because our roster doesn't look like Chicago?~

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#29 ScubaSteve
July 11 2009, 04:59PM
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On a non-Heatley note, Calgary just sign Brian McGratton. This is what TSN.ca says about him:

"One of the most feared 'heavyweights' in professional hockey, the 29-year old Hamilton native earned 22 penalty minutes in just five games with the Phoenix Coyotes last season."

Lol, yeah, McGratton was pretty feared in his FIVE game last year. Scary...... TSN must've though that the leafs signed him to pump him up that much.

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#30 myteammytown
July 11 2009, 05:07PM
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Godzilla wrote:

Worst offseason ever… Does anybody know if Simon Gagné has a no-trade clause? He’s a pretty good left-wing and the Flyers are looking for salary cap space. Just asking.

yes, he has a NTC

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#31 Ibmat
July 11 2009, 05:08PM
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I understand that we as fans are frustrated and perhaps more than a little embarrassed by Heatley gate.... On the other hand, what's more frustrating is sitting back and watching all of the decent UFA's get signed during one of the cheapest UFA markets ever save for Gaborik maybe.

For all of the talk of burying contracts in the minors if need be, we've been completely out of the game here. We're in a great situation (sarcasm). Yeah we have too many contracts and too many slightly overpaid ones at that. Despite this, our roster has more holes than a window screen.

We've got 1/3 of a first line (Hemsky)... No one who can win a faceoff except Horcoff... No shut down d-man... No sniper for 1LW... Not much of a 3rd line for PK. Not to mention that we've yet to add any size or grit to our team. I am not even sure that we can legitimately claim to have a back up goalie with JDD...

I am not sure that I am huge fan of this approach. It seems like were going to sit back and wait for the Heatley situation to resolve itself and likely start next season with a slight worse roster than last year. Likely, this will entail filling some holes with prospects.

Isn't the definition of insanity repeating the same thing over and over and expecting a different result???

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#32 ryan
July 11 2009, 05:33PM
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The reason why I write on Oiler Nation would be because I am an Oilers fan. I am smart enough to realize that Heatly does not want to come to Edmonton. Why do you guys keep on writing blogs that have been dead for two weeks? Any word on any of the players who currently play for Edmonton and how their training has progressed thus far?

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#33 hatecrime
July 11 2009, 05:43PM
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@ ryan: starting to agree.see what cogs thinks of all this talk about him.also i would like to see if we could land some of the sharks team blow up.most of all i would like to see a team that could kick calgarys ass on a nightly basis.you know they fear us for a change!

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#34 Jonathan Willis
July 11 2009, 05:45PM
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@ ryan:

I'd suggest reading this site as well as the articles for the last week or two here at ON.

For instance, aside from this article, the last two days at OilersNation have contained:

- an article on Joe Sakic's retirement - an article discussing free agency and the goalie glut, as well as the ramifications of signing Khabibulin - an article on possible free agents who could help fill the Oilers' PK and faceoff holes - an article on Tim Sestito being dealt to New Jersey (where several people complained about the lack of a Heatley update) - Wanye's take on Dany Heatley and fans insatiable thirst for news - a look at what consistutes an NHL average goaltender and how the Northwest Division measures up

That means that between July 9th and now, there have been seven articles, only two of which dealt with Heatley.

I think we're being pretty reasonable in our coverage.

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#35 Jonathan Willis
July 11 2009, 05:47PM
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ryan wrote:

Any word on any of the players who currently play for Edmonton and how their training has progressed thus far?

It's the middle of July. Outside of development camp, how much hockey-related news do you expect?

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#36 Hemmertime
July 11 2009, 05:51PM
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@ ryan: You're in the small minority that doesnt want Heatley news. At least until we get a solid No.

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#37 ShaunDoe
July 11 2009, 05:58PM
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So we signed Chris Minard today, he formerly played for both the baby pens and Lowel Devils. Can't see this being more than a farm team move. Plays LW and put up decent points with Wilkse-barre last season but has never played more than a handfull of games in the NHL. At the age of 28 I don't think this is a work in progress... Anyone have anything else on him?

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#38 oilersinsider
July 11 2009, 06:05PM
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One has to keep in mind that while Heatley is big news in Edmonton and it requires covering, there is more to talk about and Oilers Nation seems to good a great job of bringing variety for readers to change things up a bit.

I had a comment posted on my blog asking me why I was wasting time with the examination of possible trade parterns instead of talking about giving fans the "scoops" on the Oilers.

As much as we'd like to think so, there aren't "scoops" floating around all day every day. It's nice to give different angles instead of the same old same old.

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#39 Cory Dakin
July 11 2009, 06:24PM
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The only news here is that the Heatley camp wants more options of places to go. Does anyone believe that if/when Bryan Murray can find two other suitors, Heatley will actually pick Edmonton? Me thinks no.

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#40 jhmacdonald
July 11 2009, 06:49PM
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Did Brownlee have anyone else feeling like the deal was about to go through after reading the "Limbo" piece a couple days ago? He's pretty damn good with his predictions so I was refreshing tsn for 48 hours after reading it....

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#41 Wanye Gretz
July 11 2009, 07:36PM
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Kent wrote:

I just wanted to add that I think all this is hilarious.

You would say that. Aren't all you people watching other drunks shuffle around in Cowboy Hats or something this week?

Jonathan Willis wrote:

I think we’re being pretty reasonable in our coverage.

And to be fair my article doesn't even really count as an article. I think of it more as an experience.

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#42 Jonathan Willis
July 11 2009, 08:13PM
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Wanye Gretz wrote:

And to be fair my article doesn’t even really count as an article. I think of it more as an experience.

As are all your articles... ;)

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#43 MattL
July 11 2009, 08:56PM
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@ Word:

Word, Word.

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#44 ryan
July 11 2009, 09:05PM
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Heatly has already told the Oilers twice. Why do you guys write blogs regarding a two week old dead deal ? Robin , johnathan and dreger WAKE UP !!

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#45 Robin Brownlee
July 11 2009, 09:26PM
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ryan wrote:

Heatly has already told the Oilers twice. Why do you guys write blogs regarding a two week old dead deal ? Robin , johnathan and dreger WAKE UP !!

Pull your head out of your ass. Heatley hasn't told the Oilers yes or no yet. His actions -- foot dragging and refusing to drop the NMC -- indicate no, and any deal will have to be tweaked because of the $4 million bonus payment, but he hasn't gone on the record and said "no." Aside from that, if you were paying attention, the Oilers haven't given up on the deal, even though they probably should. That's newsworthy.

We'd appreciate it if you'd pay attention, have a grasp of the facts and read what's actually written before running your mouth. That, or if you see a topic that doesn't interest you, don't read it. Unless, of course, your name comes back with the same IP as notcomingback and you're just here to get a reaction.

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#46 Peter Pan
July 11 2009, 10:03PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

Pull your head out of your ass. Heatley hasn’t told the Oilers yes or no yet. His actions — foot dragging and refusing to drop the NMC — indicate no, and any deal will have to be tweaked because of the $4 million bonus payment, but he hasn’t gone on the record and said “no.” Aside from that, if you were paying attention, the Oilers haven’t given up on the deal, even though they probably should. That’s newsworthy. We’d appreciate it if you’d pay attention, have a grasp of the facts and read what’s actually written before running your mouth. That, or if you see a topic that doesn’t interest you, don’t read it. Unless, of course, your name comes back with the same IP as notcomingback and you’re just here to get a reaction.

Robin F*ckin' Brownlee in da hoooouuuuuse!

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#47 Rival
July 11 2009, 10:30PM
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This is ridiculous. I can't wait till he goes somewhere else and the Oilers are just sitting there looking dumb with their crappy team. Our family shells out for 4 season tickets each year and I'm starting to wonder why the hell we do. Set a deadline, move on and save face. Pathetic.

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#48 RobInALab
July 11 2009, 11:02PM
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Can you imagine how often Robin would use the phrase 'pull your head out of your ass' if he wrote for a Leaf's related website? :)

Hey Robin, you've gotten a bit more chippy lately. I hope it's just some of the comments here that have you riled up and not anything closer to home.

Cheers

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#49 Roz
July 11 2009, 11:04PM
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Rival wrote:

This is ridiculous. I can’t wait till he goes somewhere else and the Oilers are just sitting there looking dumb with their crappy team. Our family shells out for 4 season tickets each year and I’m starting to wonder why the hell we do. Set a deadline, move on and save face. Pathetic.

I'm sure there would be a long line up of people that would gladly take your tickets off your hands. Heck I'm willing to bet they would even throw a few Flames jersey's in as well.

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#50 HOFFFF
July 11 2009, 11:40PM
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But still....Heatley must have thrown Tamb and Lowe a bone back in Kelowna, or they would have dropped this days ago. That and his silence leads me to believe there is still the faint hope clause. OR..he told them what they wanted to hear...and after they left, Heatley was..."phew...I thought they would never leave." But have faith, Tambellini doing everything they can to fix the broken Oilers.

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