The Dany Heatley Saga: Marathon or Death March?

Jonathan Willis
July 14 2009 11:11AM

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“Oil trade for Dany still alive” proclaims the Ottawa Sun, “but it could be slammed shut soon”.

Why (or perhaps "for the love of all that is good and holy why can't this be over already"), you ask ? Because, according to journalist Chris Stevenson, “an NHL source indicated yesterday the Oilers' patience is wearing thin to have Heatley agree to a deal and they could give up and move on perhaps as early as today.”

No doubt this would be welcome news to some – even many – Oilers fans, but I wouldn’t get too excited about it just yet, because of a Dan Barnes article we talked about a few days ago. Quoting Barnes:

The source also said the Oilers had not imposed an internal deadline for a firm resolution of this ridiculously untenable situation. Nor had they communicated such an ultimatum to the Senators or Heatley. That rumour had been floated last week by a TV analyst and at least one Internet site. "Could be a week, could be a month," said the source.

That was three days ago.

So, when two anonymous league sources are reported as saying two conflicting things, which is to be believed? It’s up to everyone individually of course, but given that it’s an Edmonton rumour I think it would be foolish not to trust the Edmonton-based (and Edmonton-connected) reporter on this one. It’s possible that the situation has drastically shifted over those three days, but Barnes’ source seems to rule out a sudden shift like that – certainly not one that would see the Oilers abandon the pursuit a few days later (“possibly as early as today”, according to Stevenson).

Stevenson also includes this factoid:

Rumours are there are at least two other teams which have recently held discussions with Senators GM Bryan Murray but have only offered bloated contracts and underachieving players in return.

Dan Barnes also mentioned two teams, so we can view this information as probably true. Barnes said they hadn’t finalized an offer, while Stevenson says that they aren’t offering much of value – which sounds to me like two different ways of saying the same thing.

The last part of Stevenson’s piece that I’d like to look at is not to criticize him, but just to highlight the difficulty of sorting through rumours in general. Here’s the quote:

Speculation is the Minnesota Wild remains a team looking for an offensive addition and the Columbus Blue Jackets have been named in connection with the unhappy winger.

Stevenson is careful to couch all of his paragraphs so that it’s clear he’s passing along speculation, and in this case we can be fairly certain that the speculation is inaccurate, because of what Columbus GM Scott Howson said to Dan Tencer a few days ago:

"We're not involved in that scene. It's an unfortunate situation for everybody involved."

In other words, for better and worse, I continue to believe that the Oilers are ardent in their pursuit of Heatley, despite today’s conflicting report from Stevenson.

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, Sportsnet, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#51 scorecoff hemmercules
July 14 2009, 02:29PM
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Ducey wrote:

By going public it puts more pressure on the Sens and Heatley to resolve the matter now. If the Oilers say it publically it is going to be harder for them to go back on it and this in turn will make it harder for Heatley to say no as may not have other options. The Sens and Heatley will also have the media all over them. With the public knowing about the deadline and focussing on Dany, he has to know he is going to be further criticised and thereby further reduce his options. It also sends a clear message to the fans and the players that the Oilers are not going to wait at the alter forever; Heatley is not going to determine the season and the Oilers will move on to make other changes.

Lowe and Tambo are kissing Heatleys ass right now, what you mentioned above would just piss him and Murray off. That really doesn't get us anywhere.

I would suspect that Tambo is still trying to work other deals. It seems like most of the remaining UFA's are asking for too much cash or they would be somewhere by now, Tambo doesn't want to over pay either. Things will happen or they won't, I find it hard to believe our management is doing absolutely nothing at this point.

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#52 Jason
July 14 2009, 02:33PM
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So sounds like from what im hearing we could be over a barrel whether we rescind the offer or not.

The one thing i think about is this....

Lets say we keep the offer on the table and it always remains the best offer. Heatley cotinues to sit on his thumb and not commit to the trade. Ottawa panics because they having only been bluffin with being ok with accepting him back. San Jose calls Murray and says listen here is a way worse offer than Edmonton but its all we can do. Are you interested or are you going to sit on Heatley (oh and by the way your totally over the salary cap with him in your line up..haha) So Murray realizing Heatley doesnt want to come to Edmonton and he wont play in Ottawa he excepts a way lesser offer and send Heatley to San Jose. So really we still end up lookin terrible because we kept our offer (the best offer) on the table and we still didnt get him. Doesnt that put more mud in the face of the Oilers organization?? Of course this is hypothetical but i can definitly see it playing out this way.

Bottom line....the guy has had more than enough time to decide whether he wants to put on a jersey for a storied and historic franchise. Its obvious he is stalling to see if the grass is greener elsewhere. Id like the guys talent but i cant help but to feel a little bitter as a PROUD Oilers fan that this guy doesnt see this organization as a promising young team with enough potentially to maybe one day soon win a stanley cup!!!

He intially stated that he is looking to play a bigger role on a team and felt devalued with his lack of ice time in Ottawa 5 on 5 and on the PP. Well Dany boy you arent going to find a better opportunity than in Edmonton to show what you've got!! So apparently thats not the problem??

On another note why can he not be accoutable to NHL fans and step up to the plate and give an interview on his current apparent lack of disrespect for two NHL franchises that he has bent over a barrell.

Id love to see the guy play here just to finally see what he could do with a guy like Hemmer but someone needs to start making this guy accountable SOON!

On a separate not to the NHL and NHLPA....if a player requests a trade off a team for the reasons that he provided then he shouldnt be able to pick and choose where he wants to go. Especially if there is intially a no trade clause put in the contract at the request of the player. Its brutal that you can get paid 7-10 mill a year and be that petty! Ill play in Siberia for that much if i had the sweet summer pad he has in Kelowna!

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#53 BigE57
July 14 2009, 02:35PM
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@ Big Poppa Oil: I hope you are wrong about Penner as well but I won't hold my breath.

Still, if this trade dies I'd like to see how these guys perform under the new coaching staff, Penner is capable of putting up some numbers like he did in Anaheim and given the right situation Cogliano is going to score 20 or more.

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#54 Robin Brownlee
July 14 2009, 02:36PM
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@ Ducey: I suspect your whole argument for going public is based on how badly you want a resolution, not because you really believe will speed up the process.

What's the "clear" message to the fans (and does sending a message to the fans matter one damn bit when tickets are already sold?) Fact is, the Oilers could set a deadline for Heatley at noon Tuesday. If he phoned up noon Wednesday and said, "OK, I'm an Oiler" how many fans would storm the Oilers offices insisting "We said noon Tuesday, not Wednesday, so we don't want him."

Your desire for a resolution isn't a reason to start setting public deadlines that mean nothing.

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#55 Joey Moss
July 14 2009, 02:40PM
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this situation is more than embarrassing, it is unbelieivably shameful. i expect the team i cheer for to behave with a bit of pride and not sit at home waiting for some chump like heatley to come around to playing here.

i would sooner go into this season as is (which isn't a much better roster than last year) than with dany heatley and all the shame he has and would continue to bring the organization.

time to move on and start working on a trade to bring in a scoring LW that doesn't require you to give him fellatio and swallow before he comes to town.

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#56 Ender the Dragon
July 14 2009, 02:43PM
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Downright Fierce wrote:

The Wild are closer than us to the cap and just signed a pricey LW in Havlat. No chance.

I've reviewed the Wild's salary structure since I posted that and you're right; there's no chance he goes there. They've only got about $5M in cap room and still have a few bodies to sign to ice a team.

Wild or no, the point stands that Ottawa may be left with little option but to trade Heater for far-below even value to whatever team Dany will agree to go to; that or revisit the whole Yashin fiasco all over again. And if that trade-partner doesn't end up being the Oil, then Katz/Lowe/Tambellini will have to decide whether to just suck it up and move on or cry foul. I agree that crying foul might do little to preserve what shreds of dignity we have left. Still . . .

[sniff]

Golly-shucks, it just ain't fair. Stupid Team-that-isn't-the-Oilers . . .

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#57 Chris.
July 14 2009, 02:44PM
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Ducey wrote:

By going public it puts more pressure on the Sens and Heatley to resolve the matter now.

Why? A private deadline puts just as much pressure on Heatley as a public one... If Heatley says, "No" (in private) Tambellini can then publicly pull the offer and save face.

Ducey wrote:

t also sends a clear message to the fans and the players that the Oilers are not going to wait at the alter forever

The players are professionals and the fans can suck it up... Tambellini has no responsibility to US to reslove this quickly just because we've grown impatient for news. I admit, having an answer one way or another would be a relief... but alleviating my stress level shouldn't be a consideration when deciding how to move forward. As for the other parties involved: Tambellini should deal with Cogliano, Penner, and Smid behind closed doors... and that is the best he can do.

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#58 scorecoff hemmercules
July 14 2009, 02:44PM
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BigE57 wrote:

Penner is capable of putting up some numbers like he did in Anaheim

Penner put up more points in Edmonton than he did in Anaheim. I don't get this mentality that he will suddenly be a better player because of a new boss. He may not be called out by the coach as much this year but I would be suprised if he put up over 50 points. He is still a major question mark for me.

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#59 Duke
July 14 2009, 02:56PM
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Weren't the Oil going to "cry foul" over the Nylander thing? Why didn't that happen?

(even though I'm glad they didn't end up with him)

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#60 BigE57
July 14 2009, 03:04PM
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scorecoff hemmercules wrote:

Penner put up more points in Edmonton than he did in Anaheim. I don’t get this mentality that he will suddenly be a better player because of a new boss. He may not be called out by the coach as much this year but I would be suprised if he put up over 50 points. He is still a major question mark for me.

Penner put up 2 more points with Edmonton in '07-08 but 6 more goals which is what we are all longing for isn't it? And it isn't like his skills diminished last year, he played an unmotivated, lackadaisical (spelling?) type of game on many nights and was singled out quite regularly, perhaps the new coaching staff has a better way to handle him than just chasing him away from the buffet table yelling NO! I'm not saying Penner isn't a question mark, I simply hope that Quinn and Renney implement some new systems that benefit the type of players that the Oilers have, Penner included.

You know maybe a powerplay with more than 2 options than feed Souray at the point or across the slot to Horcoff.

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#61 swany
July 14 2009, 03:15PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

@ Ducey: I suspect your whole argument for going public is based on how badly you want a resolution, not because you really believe will speed up the process. What’s the “clear” message to the fans (and does sending a message to the fans matter one damn bit when tickets are already sold?) Fact is, the Oilers could set a deadline for Heatley at noon Tuesday. If he phoned up noon Wednesday and said, “OK, I’m an Oiler” how many fans would storm the Oilers offices insisting “We said noon Tuesday, not Wednesday, so we don’t want him.” Your desire for a resolution isn’t a reason to start setting public deadlines that mean nothing.

RB we have 3 guys twisting in the wind since there names where mentioned in the deal, would it look better to players around the NHL if Tambi came out and set a deadline for this mess to get staightened out. I can hear the players now "Look at Edmonton they wait on a player that doesn't even play for them rather than worring about 3 guys that do. Public or not they should make this guy make up his mind if it's no we move on if yes get it done, but all this looks worse than him telling us no. Gagner said it is affecting Cogs he wants to be here, so maybe we should start thinking about those guys rather than the spoiled brat who needs time and to me that's a couple days not 3 weeks.

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#62 Death Metal Nightmare
July 14 2009, 03:28PM
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swany wrote:

RB we have 3 guys twisting in the wind since there names where mentioned in the deal,

no, theyre Oilers. theyre not twisting in the wind.

these guys get paid millions. if they have to go live in a rented condo or a hotel room for a while im not going to cry if theyre traded late into the off-season.

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#63 BigE57
July 14 2009, 03:34PM
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BigE57 wrote:

Penner put up 2 more points with Edmonton in ‘07-08 but 6 more goals which is what we are all longing for isn’t it?

I'm meant to say he put up 6 more goals with Anaheim in '06-07........

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#64 oilersinsider
July 14 2009, 03:40PM
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@ Guv: Hence the reason I stated Ek is Ek. That said, even a few notable guys in the know of the Oilers organization stated that the post he wrote was more accurate than normal for his track record.

Trust me when I say, I don't use Eklund as a credible source, but I do give some props to people when what they write makes some logical sense.

I too have heard that San Jose would have been a done deal by now if they could have found the right trade cap related to fit Heatley in and move the peices out they'd like to. I also heard Minnesota has interest. Columbus we know isn't accurate and the Rangers are out, but we now know the Oilers aren't the only team poking around.

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#65 Rice
July 14 2009, 03:44PM
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@ Jason: one thing hey...

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#66 hatecrime
July 14 2009, 03:57PM
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i can't believe columbus has that much cap room!heatley and nash together wow

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#67 The Menace
July 14 2009, 04:05PM
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Would anyone really rather play in Columbus though? As a professional athelete, isn't it the dream to play in front of a packed house every night, with fans that care screaming your name? I can't understand why anyone would rather play in a market where they can remain anonymous. I looked at the BJs attendance last year - it moved up or down 4000-5000 people depending on the night. In edmonton, it's a sellout every home game; with passionate fans to boot. I can't understand why any pro athelete would shy away from the big stage. Is this strictly an NHL phenomenom, or does it happen in other sports?

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#68 hatecrime
July 14 2009, 04:12PM
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i didn't think coloumbus attendance moved that much i thought they sold out all the time.i really wish they would get rid of these u.s. markets wherew they don't give two s!#%s about hockey.

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#69 rindog
July 14 2009, 04:14PM
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@ swany: swany wrote:

RB we have 3 guys twisting in the wind since there names where mentioned in the deal, would it look better to players around the NHL if Tambi came out and set a deadline for this mess to get staightened out. I can hear the players now “Look at Edmonton they wait on a player that doesn’t even play for them rather than worring about 3 guys that do.

It's not like these 3 guys are going to have to worry about if they are unemployed or not? They know they will get paid and play somewhere.

We also don't know what kind of contact Tambellini has had with the 3 players??? Maybe he has talked to them and they are totally fine with whatever discusion was had?

Too many people are making too big a deal out of this. If the trade happens; it happens. If it doesn't; it doesn't.

IT REALLY IS THAT SIMPLE!!!

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#70 Jack Bauer
July 14 2009, 04:14PM
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@ The Menace:

Thats not accurate at all. Unlike guys like Sean Avery who thrive on the spotlight, most sports athletes thrive on winning. Winning, winning, and winning some more. To these players the big stage is the Stanley Cup finals, not a packed house on a shît team and the dream is to win said cup.

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#71 The Menace
July 14 2009, 05:03PM
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@ Jack Bauer: Wouldn't you rather go to work every day where people would show up to appreciate what you're doing? In other sports, cities that focus on professional sports teams don't have problems attracting players. For example, the Lakers or Knicks in the NBA, Green Bay or Dallas in the NFL, Yankees and Sox in MLB. Other than the Lakers and Sox, none of these teams has a recent championship (maybe the Yanks in 2000) This seems like a uniquely NHL issue.

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#72 Jason
July 14 2009, 05:16PM
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@ Rice:

Well maybe a few things....its a touchy subject obviously. :P

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#73 The Menace
July 14 2009, 05:20PM
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hatecrime wrote:

i didn’t think coloumbus attendance moved that much i thought they sold out all the time.i really wish they would get rid of these u.s. markets wherew they don’t give two s!#%s about hockey.

hxxp://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=nhl/teams/148/attendance.aspx?team=148

For the two years of 2007/2008, and 2008/2009, attendance peaked at 19167 in game 34 08/09 (only achieved that # once), and hit a low of 10494 in game 34 in the same year. Average attendance was just over 15500.

Over the same period, the Oilers had 16839 tickets sold 82 straight times.

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#74 lea
July 14 2009, 05:20PM
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Why don't we just set a deadline, its either yes or no, either way we can then move on. This is absolutely ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#75 roadrunner
July 14 2009, 05:35PM
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I've been mulling this whole thing over since the original announcement was made and to be honest, there's something about the player that doesn't resonate with me. The guy is a gifted goal scorer and would be welcome here of course, but he just doesn't do it for me. I guess I'm a bit apathetic towards him and the whole situation right now.

Now having said that, shouldn't the NHL and the NHLPA get together as mediators and resolve this whole thing?

It's either that or the Senators put it out there that Heatley is availbale for "x" amount of time and will be listening to all offers. Should nothing compare or exceed the Oilers offer, the player is taken off the block and he sits.

At some point somebody in this whole thing has to have some guts to call the whole thing off. The longer it drags on, the worse it looks for the NHL, The Senators and the NHLPA.

Of course the NHLPA is looking out for the players best interests, but to turn a blind eye to a members blatant disregard for the processes establishd by all the parties, arises questions about the NHLPAs actual respect for the league and its teams.

Am I the only one that feels this way?

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#76 Hemmertime
July 14 2009, 05:41PM
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@ roadrunner: NHLPA will say he is only acting in accordance to his contract

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#77 Fridge
July 14 2009, 05:46PM
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Don't you guy think that Tambellini, knows what he's doing? If heatley doesn't want to be in Edmonton don't you think tambellini would move on. There must be something in the wind or good reasons to pursue the deal, give these guys some credit after all they really know whats going on and we just spec.

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#78 nullterm
July 14 2009, 05:53PM
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The Oilers are dragging themselves through the mud for Heatley's benefit so he can find a better team. I'm starting to get annoyed at the organization for leaving Cogs, Smid, Penner dangle like left overs on the counter.

If the Oilers pull the trade then other Heatley suitors reduce their trade offers. Then Murray won't move him because he's not getting a good return. Let Murray and Heatley stick it out together.

Make it clear Heatley wasn't going to waive in a timely manner, withdraw trade offer, hug and make up with our 3 young guys.

If Heatley can't stick it out with the Sens, then let him say he's willing to be traded an Oiler. Only then resume talks with the Sens. Only walk back to the table if the deal will get done quickly.

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#79 oil fan
July 14 2009, 06:16PM
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I'm done with this one. Thanks for the articles but I just get pissed that Heatly drags the Oilers into his BS. I don't think paying time is the issue ( in Ottawa ). Dany is a troubled guy and needs to seek help. He disrespects his Team, Team mates and the City of Ottawa and Edmonton. In the Ottawa Sun it stats that Alfie has tried contact Heatly numerous times and gets no reply, pretty sad " Dany he's your Captian and Line mate ". He is a sad sad little boy. Shame on his parents for raising him with such poor morals.

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#80 jhmacdonald
July 14 2009, 06:34PM
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Between ghostride the whip, and the photo on this post, its nice to see us Nova Scotians get some love on ON. Thanks a bunch for that boys. That is all.

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#81 german titov
July 14 2009, 07:21PM
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They could sign me for half of what they're willing to pay that carpetbagger Heatley...

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#82 Jenga
July 14 2009, 07:42PM
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@ oil fan: You are right, this is all just making me mad. I'm out until an official announcement is made. All the speculation in Oilerdom won't make any difference. I now going outside to join the previously scheduled summer currently in progress. Check you when training camp starts Nation.

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#83 West Coast Oil
July 14 2009, 08:00PM
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Im hoping another team contacts Tamby and says hey we will give you this 1st line LW for a PMD.

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#84 matt marshall
July 14 2009, 08:17PM
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I bought my two year some Oilers pajamas and last night was the first time he wore them. He usually sleeps through the night but last night he tossed and turned and had a terrible sleepless night. I guess he's officially an Oilers fan. God bless him.

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#85 oilersseasonticketholdersince99
July 14 2009, 08:19PM
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8:30 pm June 30 I get text message Oilers get Heatley from Otatwa for Penner,Cogliano,Smid Great trade!!! 8:45 pm June 30 I get text message from outside source Heatley will not come, will not waive no trade clause you got to be kidding!!! 9:00 Pm on waiting to here if Heatley will come or not 2:30 pm July 1st have lunch with person who sent text 1 and a player on the Oilers, we still do not know if Heatley is coming or not,at least the Berlin wall is coming. July 2nd no news on heatley July 3 rd Heatley needs to sleep on it still July 4 Danny boy still needs more time July 5 Danny still has said no or yes to Oilers wants options July 6 - 10 Danny still has said no or yes to Oilers July 13 We stll wait for good old Danny to make up his mind please please please Danny come to Edmonton is what Klowe and Tambalini say to Danny every morning July 14 who gives a F-Ck any more, lets move on!!! why are we even talking about this egomaniac still, is it not obvious to Katz.Lowe and Tambalini he is not playing here?

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#86 myteammytown
July 14 2009, 08:28PM
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The Menace wrote:

Would anyone really rather play in Columbus though? As a professional athelete, isn’t it the dream to play in front of a packed house every night, with fans that care screaming your name? I can’t understand why anyone would rather play in a market where they can remain anonymous. I looked at the BJs attendance last year - it moved up or down 4000-5000 people depending on the night. In edmonton, it’s a sellout every home game; with passionate fans to boot. I can’t understand why any pro athelete would shy away from the big stage. Is this strictly an NHL phenomenom, or does it happen in other sports?

you are a pro athlete who is UFA and have your pick of almost any city in the NHL.

-you can make your money in columbus and not get boo'd when you try and eat at a dining establishment

- you can make your money in columbus and not have every tom dick and harry pumping gas for a living telling you they know how to fix the oilers power play

etc etc etc etc etc etc

Yes, i agree 110% MOST oiler fans (and canadian hockey fans for that matter) are knowledgable and passionate. Problem is, a very, very small group can turn players views on a city and its fans in a negative light.

Katz and his group are trying to change the way the oilers are viewed. it is going to take time. but, as of right now, it really shouldnt be that hard to see why a player would pick almost anywhere rather than here, unless they are drastically over paid.....

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#87 heavyd
July 14 2009, 08:43PM
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Is Mike Greir an UFA? Cause he would be a good signing.

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#88 rindog
July 14 2009, 08:59PM
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@ Fridge:

Fridge wrote:

Don’t you guy think that Tambellini, knows what he’s doing? If heatley doesn’t want to be in Edmonton don’t you think tambellini would move on. There must be something in the wind or good reasons to pursue the deal, give these guys some credit after all they really know whats going on and we just spec.

I couldn't agree more!!!

I think it would be in everyone's best interest to trust that Tambellini's face to face conversation with Heatley was positive and that both parties were satisfied with how things would progress??

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#89 rindog
July 14 2009, 09:00PM
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@ heavyd: heavyd wrote:

Is Mike Greir an UFA? Cause he would be a good signing.

Good for what?

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#90 Jodes
July 14 2009, 09:02PM
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@ heavyd:

Jeebus.. NO MORE EX OILERS!

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#91 flyricky
July 14 2009, 09:03PM
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It is time for Katz to fire Lowe and Tambo for, forever tarnishing the organizations image and promote Pat Quinn to GM and allow Renney to coach the team. It is clear that they have embarassed the team making it the biggest laughingstock in the NHL outside of the NY Islanders. This would never have happened with Quinn as GM because he is too smart and respected to be treated like an imbecile.

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#92 rindog
July 14 2009, 09:06PM
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@ oilersseasonticketholdersince99: oilersseasonticketholdersince99 wrote:

who gives a F-Ck any more, lets move on!!! why are we even talking about this egomaniac still, is it not obvious to Katz.Lowe and Tambalini he is not playing here?

I am assuming that you were present during the Tambellini/Heatley meeting and and know all the details?

If the Oilers management is happy (or content) with the way things are progressing -why can't we just leave it be until something gets done? Did I miss something and we have actually started playing games already and our roster is incomplete? Why the urge to get it done right now?

It is obvious that Tambellini is still taking care of business.

One way or the other we will have our roster established before the season starts and then we can start evaluating, etc.

Unless you are relying on Heatley to represent the Oilers in a charity golf tournament - I would advise a little patience....

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#93 rindog
July 14 2009, 09:13PM
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@ flyricky:

Again, how have they tarnished or embarrassed our organization in this instance?

If the deal went through initially - we would all be calling Tambellini a genius for landing an elite scorer for essentially spare parts.

Tambellini left the deal on the table and is going about his other business until a decision is made. I am sure that if another deal came about in the mean time - Tambellini would go through with it and be done with Heatley.

I am of the opinion that there are not any other deals that even come close to being as good as this one and Tambellini has no problem letting things play out.

As we near the start of the season I can assure you that Tambellini will have exhausted all other potential signings/deals in order to improve our club.

Let's let things materialize before we get so emotional....

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#94 BigE57
July 14 2009, 09:34PM
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rindog wrote:

Let’s let things materialize before we get so emotional….

BUT NOTHING IS HAPPENING!!!!We need news, we need to know who is going to lead us into 8th place in the West!!!!

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#95 hatecrime
July 14 2009, 09:36PM
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I THINK TAMBO IS DOING OK AS A GM,MAYBE A LITTLE TO LONG TESTING THE WATWERS B4 HE JUMPS IN.OH WELL HE'S NEW AND HE WILL HAVE TO GO A LONG WAY TO BE ASD BAD AS LOWE WAS.

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#96 rindog
July 14 2009, 09:38PM
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@ BigE57:

Last time I checked, they didn't hand out regular season points in July or August...

I can guarantee you that regardless if we do the Heatley deal (or any other deal) now or in a month from now - it will not affect us one way or another in our quest for that illusive 8th spot!

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#97 BigE57
July 14 2009, 09:56PM
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@ rindog: ~Whew! I was really worried there for a second. My heart is having a hard time with all this. One minute we're getting Heatley the next 14 days we're not, when will we know?~

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#98 hatecrime
July 14 2009, 09:56PM
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IT'S PRETTY SAD WHEN THE BEST WE EVER HOPE FOR IS 8TH!

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#99 Hemmertime
July 14 2009, 09:59PM
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@ flyricky: Ya, fire the guy who has gotten us the closest to our superstar in 20 years. Thumbs up!

Ill trust the face to face with Heatley went well, and if you check around the blogosphere of other teams and their writers, most (that dont work for sportsnet and have horrible sense of humor) are focusing on what a douche Bryan Murray has been and Heatley. No one really thinks any less of Edmonton - although it appears for lots thats not possible

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#100 oilersseasonticketholdersince99
July 14 2009, 09:59PM
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@ oilersseasonticketholdersince99: oilersseasonticketholdersince99 wrote: who gives a F-Ck any more, lets move on!!! why are we even talking about this egomaniac still, is it not obvious to Katz.Lowe and Tambalini he is not playing here? I am assuming that you were present during the Tambellini/Heatley meeting and and know all the details? If the Oilers management is happy (or content) with the way things are progressing -why can’t we just leave it be until something gets done? No I was not present at the meeting,it is pretty obvious that Heatley is not coming or we would have had a welcome to Edmonton press conference for good old Danny boy,this is becoming the biggest joke around the NHL,it is doing more harm for this organization which we all know needs more negative press around the league, how long does a person wait for Danny boy to make up his mind? training camp?Christmas? the trade deadline? maybe we should wait till next summer he will surely come to Edmonton by then right? The Oilers should have saved face and cancelled this deal on July 02, but wait lets put the Oilers and Senators plans on hold until Danny Boy makes up his mind.
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