Kevin Prendergast: Oilers Have “Given Up Hope” On Dany Heatley

Jonathan Willis
July 17 2009 01:24PM

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When it comes to truly dream-crushing quotes, Dan Tencer has the best set I’ve seen lately courtesy of Oilers’ assistant GM Kevin Prendergast.

I won’t give away everything, but here’s the money quote:

"I think we've given up hope on the Heatley scenario; but, I guess it's not dead in the water. But, at this point, it looks like we'll go to camp with the same team we finished with last year outside of a new goaltender." "I think at this point, it's pretty evident what's going to happen. But, we haven't closed the door on the whole issue yet."

Of course, when Prendergast says the ‘same team’ as last year, he means the same team as last year minus Ales Kotalik, Kyle Brodziak and Liam Reddox. Fun stuff.

Honestly, this quote is so ludicrous that I wonder all sorts of things. There are still players on the market who could shore up weaknesses – most notably the obvious lack of a qualified checking centre. The Oilers still have enough cap space to make a play for a guy like Manny Malhotra or Radek Bonk – and if they are truly considering moving away from Heatley than there is no reason not to sign a player of this ilk. Malhotra’s reportedly looking for a deal in the 2MM/season range, while Bonk would undoubtedly be cheaper even than that.

If we can believe that Prendergast is both a) completely aware of the situation and b) being honest with Tencer, than we should be concerned about the competence of the men currently making decisions for the team. Dany Heatley was never a sure thing, and there are an abundance of flaws with the team, so not having a Plan B is simply inexcusable.

The Edmonton Oilers may still improve; young players like Sam Gagner and Andrew Cogliano might take significant strides forward, the team might enjoy better halth as a whole (not that there were an inordinate number of injuries last season) and a better schedule could all help the Oilers be a better hockey team.

But there are any number of positive steps still left to Steve Tambellini and his staff, and not taking them would be a mistake.

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#51 Travis Dakin
July 17 2009, 04:12PM
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Dallas wrote:

And me I just don’t know what to think BUT I WILL still cheer for the oil till the day I die I bleed copper and blue always have always will.But I do think prendergast is the head of scouting and I think that has improved ten fold compared to the days we lost out on players like Doan and Parise and all those miserable years so we are improving.

Well if you look at it like that.... Getting kicked in the nuts every other day is much more desireable than getting kicked ever day. ha

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#52 canucklehead
July 17 2009, 04:25PM
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Well Jonathan, assuming Kevin Pendergast is telling the truth about the deal being more or less dead, I hope you've learned a valuable lesson about questioning Chris Stevenson of the Ottawa Sun ;)

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#53 Jonathan Willis
July 17 2009, 04:27PM
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@ canucklehead:

Assuming that Prendergast knows what he's talking about and is being honest, I'll have to review my assumption that a three-day old Edmonton source trumps a new Ottawa source that it conflicts with....

My head hurts.

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#54 Librarian Mike
July 17 2009, 04:32PM
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Prendergast: (v) past tense

Used to describe when a hockey executive passes over a true talent for an inferior and sometimes unknown player.

Ex: "Parise was available, but they prendergast him in favour of Pouliot."

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#55 Jonathan Willis
July 17 2009, 04:36PM
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Librarian Mike wrote:

Prendergast: (v) past tense Used to describe when a hockey executive passes over a true talent for an inferior and sometimes unknown player. Ex: “Parise was available, but they prendergast him in favour of Pouliot.”

I like picking on him too, but on the other hand:

Prendergast: (v) past tense

Used when a hockey executive passes on the tough western Canadian kid everybody wants him to draft in favour of some flaky Euro who is too skinny to play the real game.

Ex: "Colby Armstrong was a good BC boy, but they prendergast him in favour of Ales Hemsky."

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#56 Librarian Mike
July 17 2009, 04:38PM
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@ Jonathan Willis:

Touche! LOL.

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#57 Ender the Dragon
July 17 2009, 04:39PM
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Man, where to start with this fit of manic depression . . .

Well, first of all, Jonathan Willis wrote:

Dany Heatley was never a sure thing, and there are an abundance of flaws with the team, so not having a Plan B is simply inexcusable.

I don't remember Kevin P being awarded the post of team spokesman (for good reasons; he's probably squirming uncomfortably as we speak) so I don't take what he says as gospel. That aside, he never said once that there was no plan B. He just didn't share what it was, as would be prudent for any potential deal that you didn't want to screw up for your GM. This is Tambo's first real off-season at the helm. While he's new, he doesn't strike me as being mentally challenged; he obviously knows there's work to be done and is surely doing it every day. I wouldn't start screaming for the Spanish Inquisitors until he comes to the podium and says 'What do you mean? We can win with what's on the farm alone . . . And why aren't any of you wearing your special mittens? You're all scaring me; I have to lie down now. No more questions, please . . .' See, that's panic-button material. KP sounding off about stuff he hasn't thought about much and not talking about what's really going on? Not so much.

jeanshorts wrote:

I would rather watch this team come out and compete for 60 minutes and lose 3 outta 4 times then watch them coast around for 2 periods and squeek out a win.

A nice sentiment, but I have yet to see one single person come on here after the Oilers have lost 3 of the last 4 and comment on how happy they are with the Oilers recent level of competition. You especially, JS.

Listen to Scarlett and Travis. The sky isn't falling, Lowe and Tambo are doing the right things, Heater is a chump and isn't coming but that's ok, and we will have a team in September that looks better than this one. Patience, people. We're gonna get through this.

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#58 Dallas
July 17 2009, 04:41PM
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@ Librarian Mike: Yes but I don't see them still making those mistakes they are taking the best player available now ie Gagner,Eberle,MPS past is past as long as they learn from mistakes I don't see a problem not only that but I think they are starting to find some diamonds in the rough ala detroit like Rajjala and oivier Roy so.

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#59 Homie
July 17 2009, 04:49PM
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I have no problem with starting the year with the team they have now. If Viz stays healthy last year, that was a playoff team. The Oiler defense is still one of the best in the league and if Quinn can get Penner going, this isn't a bad team guys. Not a great one, but definitely in the playoffs.

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#60 Ender the Dragon
July 17 2009, 04:54PM
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@ Jonathan Willis:

Here's a good question for the research man himself:

How many NHL teams are currently today in cap trouble and need to dump salary before the season starts? You can add players from any of those teams to the list of free agents still available as potential new faces for the Oil this year.

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#61 Death Metal Nightmare
July 17 2009, 04:55PM
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L - O - L . this organization is the true "DESERT" of the NHL. maybe they could reverse the hockey schedule so hockey is played in the summer so all these Bad Ass Canadian Heroes want to play in North American Siberia.

"keep drafting well and forking over the cash!"

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#62 ryanfujita
July 17 2009, 04:55PM
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J-Bird wrote:

Travis Dakin wrote: J-Bird wrote: If one were to relate Heatley to some chick, how pathetic of a man sits around waiting for her to go through 28 others rejections first before settling with you? Talk about a pathetic loser! If she’s a ten then I’d introduce her to the 28 other guys if it meant that I might get a crack at her eventually even out of pitty. There is no shame in that. Heatley is a ten….. mmmmmhhhhmmmm HAHAHA Not me. I’d go after two “8’s”…….at the same time……..and thumb my nose at the “10″ ! LOL!

I like your way of thinking!

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#63 myteammytown
July 17 2009, 04:57PM
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Homie wrote:

I have no problem with starting the year with the team they have now. If Viz stays healthy last year, that was a playoff team. The Oiler defense is still one of the best in the league and if Quinn can get Penner going, this isn’t a bad team guys. Not a great one, but definitely in the playoffs.

look at the teams that made the playoffs last year.

who are the oilers going to beat out to make it?

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#64 Dallas
July 17 2009, 04:58PM
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@ Homie: Agreed plus if Quinn can get nilsson playing like he did or better than he did a couple years ago and gagner and cogliano improve even more.And Horcoff goes back to playing like he did two years ago the skies the limit boys.And I agree our defence is one of the deapest in the league deffinetly deaper than calgarys so who knows if everyone stays healthy

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#65 Zamboni Driver
July 17 2009, 05:28PM
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Dallas wrote:

@ Homie: Agreed plus if Quinn can get nilsson playing like he did or better than he did a couple years ago and gagner and cogliano improve even more.And Horcoff goes back to playing like he did two years ago the skies the limit boys.And I agree our defence is one of the deapest in the league deffinetly deaper than calgarys so who knows if everyone stays healthy

Koolaid koolaid, tastes great....etc. etc.

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#66 Matt
July 17 2009, 05:29PM
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Ok, at $2 million per year, is there anyone that's a better fit than Manny Malhotra? The Oilers need a guy that can play the 2-way center and win faceoffs. He's unlike anyone on their team... that's a good thing.

He might not be the perfect player, but he's a pretty damn good fit...

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#67 douggy
July 17 2009, 05:29PM
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nillson is a chump. calgary as far as i understand is so far over cap by about 2mil and that doesnt include nigel dawes salary if they can get past arbitration with him. the sutters dont know how to play the cap game and should be fined by the nhl. or they can always just cheat and put their extra cap space players on the IR list. just like last year...makes me sick.

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#68 Jonathan Willis
July 17 2009, 05:34PM
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@ Ender the Dragon:

Hence the caveat in the article:

If we can believe that Prendergast is both a) completely aware of the situation and b) being honest with Tencer, than we should be concerned about the competence of the men currently making decisions for the team. Dany Heatley was never a sure thing, and there are an abundance of flaws with the team, so not having a Plan B is simply inexcusable.
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#69 Jonathan Willis
July 17 2009, 05:36PM
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Ender the Dragon wrote:

How many NHL teams are currently today in cap trouble and need to dump salary before the season starts? You can add players from any of those teams to the list of free agents still available as potential new faces for the Oil this year.

A fine point, and there are certainly teams who fit that description. Most of them are contenders though and are unlikely to send a useful player our way if they can send some dead weight to the minors instead.

If there's interest, perhaps I'll do some "Target of Opportunity" posts over the next week.

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#70 Mowzie
July 17 2009, 05:40PM
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The most disturbing thing that come out of this news, is that KP has taken a shot at Omark and his people for no apparent reason, further isolating him from our organization. Sure it can be connected to the Reddox signing, but there's no real positive outcome by bringing it up right now. KP also had to take a parting shot at Reddox, sending another player away with a bad taste in their mouth.

The more I think about it, the more I believe it's not the city that keeps people away from Edmonton, but a hand full of executives who have unshakable egos, and are have to let their own personal feelings supersede what might be best for the team.

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#71 Mowzie
July 17 2009, 05:41PM
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Wow, I really should have proof read that...

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#72 myteammytown
July 17 2009, 05:46PM
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@ Mowzie:

im not going to lie, i read:

KP also had to take a parting shot at Reddox, sending another player away with a bad taste in their mouth

and had to double check what website i was at...

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#73 nullterm
July 17 2009, 05:52PM
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KP need a muzzle. Keep him and Lowe away from the mic and let Tambo handle that. He's smart enough to know it's safer to say nothing rather than try and get an ego boost from taking a parting shot.

"We made Reddox and his camp an offer which unfortunately doesn't seem to be what they wanted. They are currently pursuing other options. Liam was a good player for us and we wish him the best of luck."

Hire me Oilers!

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#74 Travis Dakin
July 17 2009, 06:12PM
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@ myteammytown: @ Mowzie: Now that is SOLID GOLD!!!

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#75 DanMan
July 17 2009, 06:29PM
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Radek Bonk?

Youv'e got to be kidding me, Jonathan.

You want Gilbert Brule to toil another year in Springton so fricken Manny Malhotra Or Radek Bunk can take up valuable ice-time?

We didn't develop ANYTHING last year! Except Grebs and Smid, who got better last year? Liam Reddox?

The Oilers have to build something. Why can't we go young?

You guys think the sky is falling because we didn't spend $2-3 million on a 3rd line center. Its a cap world, guys. The Oilers have gotten their ASS KICKED by the cap with K-Lo. The Pisani deal was the first bad one, and then Gilbert and Horc really set us back.

Young, cheap players filling out the bottom of your roster IS the way to go.

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#76 DanMan
July 17 2009, 06:33PM
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Not to mention the fact that a 3rd line center would most certainly be available at trade deadline time, if we are in contention, and if one is needed. Those are pretty big ifs at this point.

Most smart teams leave at least $2 mil in cap space (some as much as 5) for that very reason. I do not think it is wise to spend to the cap before training camp even starts.

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#77 Mowzie
July 17 2009, 06:38PM
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@ DanMan:

In some cases yes, but certain positions need to be filled properly. I think a checking centerman/ faceoff guy, is sort of a specialist role that you either have or you don't, it's not really a role you want to leave up in the air. It's not like saying, ok, we lost a 25 goal scorer, so we'll just expect a couple guys to pick up the slack and each score 4 or 5 more goals. Faceoffs is for the most part a split second battle, that can't really be improved collectively, well it can, but I mean the best way to sure it up is to bring in someone who can do it well.

We lost Brodziak, which puts more pressure on Horcoff. Do we have someone internally who can step up? Right now it doesn't look like it.

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#78 Mowzie
July 17 2009, 06:41PM
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DanMan wrote:

Not to mention the fact that a 3rd line center would most certainly be available at trade deadline time, if we are in contention, and if one is needed. Those are pretty big ifs at this point. Most smart teams leave at least $2 mil in cap space (some as much as 5) for that very reason. I do not think it is wise to spend to the cap before training camp even starts.

We do that every year though, why do we consistently have to go into the season with GLARING holes in the line-up. Sure we can leave it til the deadline, but by then, all the avaiable UFA's will be scooped up at 50 cents on the dollar or sign in Russia/Europe, and we will most likely be dealing from a position of weakness, and would be more likely to screw it up. For once, let's sure up our weaknesses and go into the season on a full tank of gas, rather than just wait and see what happens and get bit in the ass one way or another.

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#79 Jonathan Willis
July 17 2009, 07:00PM
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@ DanMan:

Brule isn't ready for a third line centre spot. Andrew Cogliano isn't good enough defensively.

In point of fact, nobody on the team is good enough defensively.

While we're at it, the PK sucking was the single-biggest reason the team lost last year.

So yes - if Gilbert Brule can't make the cut against Marc Pouliot, JF Jacques, Zach Stortini, Robert Nilsson and whoever else is on the bubble, he can do his developing in the AHL.

Prospects MUST earn roster spots - they shouldn't be given them.

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#80 DanMan
July 17 2009, 07:01PM
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@ Mowzie:

I see your points, and they are good ones.

I want to touch on a couple things you said.

First the "checking" center situation. MacT is gone. Pat Quinn is here. There wont be any shutdown centermen on this team, guaranteed. Quinn doesn't ice that style of hockey. I like checking centers, I dont like shutdown centers.

Here's an idea, though. Lets develop our own checking center. We have a guy, in Brule, who has all the makeup of this kind of player, but one with an offensive ceiling of 60-70 points. Instead of being the #1 guy in springfield, why not a 3rd liner here? How does Marty Reasoner, Pahlsson, Stoll, Malhotra become That guy?

Development. It has to start somewhere. Why not here?

You guys have all these rules:

Sam Gagner will never play on the 1st line as long as Horc is here because of the faceoffs and "responsibilty" or "compete level".

The 3rd line has to be a checking line, not a scoring line.

A young guy cant be on the first line or the third line.

Our young guys aren't ready for the "hard" minutes. This one really bothers me. If theyr'e playing in the NHL, theyr'e ready for "hard" minutes.

Do you want a team where your key players are in their 30's, because you wont win that way.

I'll say it again: MACT IS GONE!! HALLALEUJAH HE'S GONE!! The box that our creative hockey minds have been stuck in has been broken down.

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#81 Jonathan Willis
July 17 2009, 07:06PM
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Further on needing a defensive centre: Vic Ferrari does up a list of faceoffs taken in the offensive and defensive zone. A positive value indicates more defensive zone faceoffs, a negative value more offensive zone faceoffs.

Here are the numbers for the Oilers top four centres:

Horcoff: +156 Brodziak: +149 Cogliano: -39 Gagner: -39

Brodziak's gone. Someone is going to get slaughtered in that role next season, and I'd rather it be Malhotra/Bonk than any of the kids.

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#82 Jonathan Willis
July 17 2009, 07:10PM
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@ DanMan:

There's a difference between lining up against Ryan Getzlaf or Andrew Ebbett. Ilya Kovalchuk or Joe Crabb. Mikko Koivu or Benoit Pouliot. Jarome Iginla or Eric Nystrom.

Most coaches line match - even if ours elects not to. If you can't see the difference between lining up against the first line and the fourth line, or the offensive zone and defensive zone, I'm not sure what to say.

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#83 DanMan
July 17 2009, 07:19PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

@ DanMan: Brule isn’t ready for a third line centre spot. Andrew Cogliano isn’t good enough defensively.

Pat Quinn has the final say on who is ready for what spot. I've been a fan of his for a long time and I have a good idea of who he will like, and who he wont like.

I can guarantee you he will not like Tom Gilbert.

I think he will like Gilbert Brule.

Based on the limited minutes I got to see him play last year, no he's not ready for the 3rd line role. But players, especially young ones, generally progress and become better year by year until they break out, or hit the wall. We need to develop centers. The 3rd line is a big role, but how long does he have to wait? 1 year? 2 years? 5 years? In my mind, the time is now. We have missed the playoffs 3 years in a row, what do we have to lose?

Im tired of this "safe player" garbage philosphy that allowed a guy like Reddox a spot on the top line for more than a few games, when guys like Cogliano, Brule, Schremp, Gagner, even Pouliot shouldv'e gotten a shot.

Brule is a much better skater than the Pou. He's really better at everything than the Pou. I just can't see him not starting the season here.

I just don't get why the Edmonton Prospect Backlash Bandwagon is threatening to run over Brule now. He's played 11 GAMES! But, then again, Schremp played 2 and the fans turned on him.

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#84 oil dude
July 17 2009, 07:20PM
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KP did an interview on Tencer's show the night before Quinn and Renny were unveiled as the coaching tandem, when asked about the progress of the coaching situation he said that he didn't know anything. We now know for a fact that he was either a) Lying, or b) Not in the loop. With this in mind I believe this is posturing to try and speed up the Heatley camp, it sure was coordinated nicely with Ottawa's "the Oilers might move on soon" stories this week.

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#85 DanMan
July 17 2009, 07:28PM
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Faceoffs are the most overrated stat other than save% or plus minus. Half the time its a scramble and the wingers are the ones who actually win the draw. Advanced stats dont really work in hockey, and create a lot of circular arguments, but thats a whole other post.

Brule was 4/5 while he was here. Thats good. I know 5 faceoffs doesnt tell us anything. The fact that he only took 5 draws in 11 games illustrates MacT's genius for developing players.

What is the difference between a 52% guy and a 48% guy, really?

Lets see: 16 faceoffs per game is about average for a 1st/2nd line center who is on the PP and/or PK. 20 if its both, so lets go with 20.

Out of 20 faceoffs:

The 52% guy would win 10.4 faceoffs. The 48% guy would win 9.6 faceoffs.

Let the slaughter begin.

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#86 jeanshorts
July 17 2009, 07:29PM
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Ender the Dragon wrote:

A nice sentiment, but I have yet to see one single person come on here after the Oilers have lost 3 of the last 4 and comment on how happy they are with the Oilers recent level of competition. You especially, JS.

Because the level of competition was so terrible last year that not only were they losing, but on a lot of nights it didn't even look like they showed up to play.

Obviously I'm bullsh*ting a bit here because no one wants to see them lose regardless, but I remember fondly before the whole Smyth debacle, during many a game I'd sit there and say "jesus, if only these guys could catch a bounce every once and a while. They're firing with everything they've got they just can't buy a break". I can't remember the last time I had that thought watching an Oiler game, especially last season.

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#87 heavyd
July 17 2009, 07:47PM
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I don't know what to think about this. Why would pendergast, say this and not tambo, so until that happens or Heatly is traded then it will be dead imo.

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#88 Jonathan Willis
July 17 2009, 07:59PM
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@ DanMan:

It's not about winning the faceoff; it's about starting in the defensive zone.

As for winning the faceoff, I agree that 48-52% is negligible, but that isn't what we're talking about for the third line spot.

Manny Malhotra took 1380 faceoffs last year, with a 58.0% winning percentage. Meanwhile Andrew Cogliano took 702 at a 37.2% rate. Let's use Cogliano's numbers, even though we know Malhotra would take more draws as the Oilers' third line centre. Here's the difference on 702 faceoffs:

Malhotra: 407 wins Cogliano: 261 wins

That means 146 more times the Oilers start without the puck if they run out Cogliano. That's significant, Dan.

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#89 Jonathan Willis
July 17 2009, 08:01PM
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DanMan wrote:

But, then again, Schremp played 2 and the fans turned on him.

Nonsense. Schremp's been an Oilers prospect for five years, during which time he's played 342 games. More importantly, during his disappointing professional career, he's played 223 games.

The AHL counts, y'all.

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#90 DanMan
July 17 2009, 08:05PM
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We have to have some confidence in our players to play in ALL situations. This isn't football where its 3rd down and you bring in the nickelbacks and pass rushers.

Always matching lines and trying to "shut down" the other team is New Jersey/Minnesota hockey. Its ugly and it doesn't work anymore.

Its not 2004 anymore. In the new NHL, a good offense beats a good defence.

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#91 Jonathan Willis
July 17 2009, 08:06PM
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DanMan wrote:

He’s really better at everything than the Pou.

Fun comparison:

Brule - 157 GP, 35 pts, .223 points-per-game Pouliot - 141 GP, 39 pts, .277 points-per-game

That's a 20% difference in offense.

Maybe Brule is better at everything, but offense at the NHL level hasn't shown it.

While we're at it, here are the AHL numbers:

Brule - 55 GP, 34 pts, .618 points-per-game Pouliot - 153 GP, 123 pts, .804 points-per-game

That's a 23% difference in offense.

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#92 Jonathan Willis
July 17 2009, 08:09PM
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DanMan wrote:

In the new NHL, a good offense beats a good defence.

May I present the 2007 Stanley Cup Champion Anaheim Ducks, where their great offense (including Scott Niedermayer, Chris Pronger and the "Nothing" Line, featuring noted scorers Sami Pahlsson, Travis Moen and Rob Niedermayer) beat the Ottawa Senators great defense (featuring Jason Spezza, Daniel Alfredsson, and one Dany Heatley).

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#93 DanMan
July 17 2009, 08:10PM
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@ Jonathan Willis:

I can't argue with you there, Jonathan.

I dont want Cogliano anywhere near a faceoff circle. I think 45% and up is enough for a 3rd or 4th line C.

Do you think Cogliano even fits on this team anymore, Jonathan?

He's too small to be a winger, can't take a draw, and apparently can't be on the PK either.

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#94 Travis Dakin
July 17 2009, 08:12PM
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jeanshorts wrote:

but I remember fondly before the whole Smyth debacle, during many a game I’d sit there and say “jesus, if only these guys could catch a bounce every once and a while. They’re firing with everything they’ve got they just can’t buy a break”. I can’t remember the last time I had that thought watching an Oiler game, especially last season.

haha sorry dude. It was too funny to me. But I completely agree. I took my GF to three games in the last two seasons. She doesn't know a thing about hockey but guess what she tells everybody about the games. "It looks like they don't even try compared to the other teams. They don't try to get the puck from the other team. They just lose the puck and stand around hoping the other team doesn't score"

That is an exact quote and THAT is exactly what Oiler hockey has been for the last couple of years. I'm sick and tired of it. The teams form 97-06 were a pain in the ass to play against and exciting as all hell but just needed a pretty player or two to take them over the top. Lowe was like Michael Jackson and went way too far trying to become pretty. Turned themselves into an unrecognizable mess.

@ DanMan: I want you to know that Everything you have said is exactly what I've been thinking for the last two years while reading Oiler blogs. I just haven't ever been able to say it like that. Preach on brother.

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#95 Ogden Brother
July 17 2009, 08:13PM
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Tambs is going to get an F if that is true.

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#96 DanMan
July 17 2009, 08:16PM
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Im talking regular season J-Will, but I'll bite.

4-time 50 goal scorer Teemu Selanne. Bona-fide 1st line center Ryan Getzlaf. Corey Perry Chris Kunitz 250 pounds of Penner.

Pahlsson's line shut down the big line from Ottawa, there is no doubt about that. But, for the most part, the Lemaire/Hitchcock model doesn't equal automatic success anymore.

Young skill wins: Malkin, Crosby, Toews, Kane, Staal, Getzlaf, etc. You can't deny that.

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#97 DanMan
July 17 2009, 08:17PM
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@ Travis Dakin:

I thought I was the only one.

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#98 Harlie
July 17 2009, 08:21PM
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Prendergast is Ted Turner's evil cousin..

Prender hxxp://cdn.nhl.com/oilers/bc/images/roster/all_staff/prendergast_kevin.jpg

Ted1 hxxp://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/ted-turner-WI-1108-lg-77848751.jpg

Ted2 hxxp://www.tvweek.com/blogs/blink/2008/11/14/TedTurnerBLINK.jpg

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#99 David S
July 17 2009, 08:32PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Malhotra: 407 wins Cogliano: 261 wins That means 146 more times the Oilers start without the puck if they run out Cogliano. That’s significant, Dan.

Which over the course of the season is less than two times a game.

I'm more worried about Cogliano's defensive skills and the fact he has to play with hacks most of the time. The kid could be an offensive jewel and he plays the majority of his time on a checking line? To me, that's the bigger issue at hand with him.

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Travis Dakin wrote:

Lowe was like Michael Jackson and went way too far trying to become pretty. Turned themselves into an unrecognizable mess.

Scientists are now saying that MJ's attempt to change his looks was based on the mental anguish he sustained after having a raging bonfire on his head when he filmed that Pepsi commercial back in the 80's. You see the video of that sh*t!? I remember hearing about it through the grapevine school rumour crap back in the day and we all laughed at the thought of him having his head on fire. Now that I've seen the video... http://www.usmagazine.com/news/video-michael-jacksons-tragic-commercial-accident-2009157 OUCH!!

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