Dany Heatley: next steps and options

Jason Gregor
July 02 2009 12:37PM

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The Oilers haven’t backed off from acquiring Dany Heatley, but it sounds like they will have to sweeten the pot if they are going to get him out of Ottawa. The price has just went up according to Sens GM Bryan Murray.

Whether that means the Oilers have to add in some prospects, or take another salary off the books of the Senators is unclear. The unique thing about this deal is that even though the Sens have paid Heatley $4 million, if they trade him before the season starts that money won’t count against their cap.

The team that gets Heatley will only have to pay him $4 million in salary this year, but he is a $7.5 million cap hit on their books.

"Edmonton is the only option that has been presented to us, and you can't tell that there aren't more," J.P. Barry told Sportsnet.ca.

Well I’m not sure how many other options they truly have. The Rangers aren’t interested now that they have Gaborik, and supposedly Glen Sather had targeted Gaborik over Heatley anyways.

The Canucks can’t take him now that the Sedins’ have re-signed for a combined cap hit of $12.2 million per year, and the Wild landed Havlat.

So who are the other options?

I’m betting you think it’s the Kings. They have lots of cap space, are stacked with young players Ottawa would like and are a sexy location for Heatley.

But watch this.

Does that sound like the Kings are interested?

I don’t think so. Sorry Dany you won’t be living the life in LA.

I’ve been told that Heatley has seen this, and it is clear that the Kings are an unlikely destination.

So who else is there?

The San Jose Sharks possibly. But they have 15 players signed for $51 million already. Patrick Marleau has one year left on his deal, the Sens aren’t in love with Cheechoo, and so will the Sharks give up Clowe, Setoguchi and a D-man for Heatley? That would be pretty steep.

The Coyotes and Predators won’t be in the mix, so that doesn’t leave him many options.

Heatley needs to decide today, and so do the Oilers. I think it is time the Oilers ask for a decision from his camp. Is he in, or out?

And then the Oilers need to live with the decision, move on and look at other options to try and improve their team.

They offered a great deal to Ottawa, and the Sens wanted it — for a moment even Heatley seemed like he was willing to come, but he got cold feet and now he is dragging them on the beach in Kelowna.

Enough is enough. Make a decision a move on.

The decision needs to come today, and I think the Oilers need to make it, because it is evident that Heatley can’t make it himself.

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#51 Curious
July 02 2009, 02:05PM
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The only way Murray regains control of this is if he holds on to Heatley hope he has decent half of a season and doesnt cause to much issues in the dressing room and has a great Olympics. Deal him at the Deadline to a team on the cusp of taking a serious run at things.

Lots of ifs and buts, but if he wants full value that is the only way he is going to get it.

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#52 DonDon
July 02 2009, 02:07PM
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@ Curious: Instead, keep Smeed and put Staois in his place. Better yet, go after Nash or Kessler. The Oil has the assets to make this trade, e.g., Gilbert and Penner.

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#53 ronald
July 02 2009, 02:07PM
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Wow, I need closure.

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#54 Jonathan Willis
July 02 2009, 02:07PM
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RE: The package for Heatley

Look, I don't like the guy. But his on-ice contributions are greater than any of Penner, Cogliano, or Smid's will ever be.

I don't care if he eats kittens in his at-home time, and as reprehensible as his behaviour is several teammates have said he's good in the room.

He's still worth the package.

On the other hand, if he isn't coming, he isn't coming, and Tambellini needs to move to Plan (B/C/D/E?) while options are left. Frolov. Tanguay. Maybe Gagne, if available.

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#55 Jonathan Willis
July 02 2009, 02:08PM
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@ DonDon:

Howson's not an idiot. He isn't going to trade his franchise player.

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#56 RossCreek
July 02 2009, 02:11PM
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FROM LA KINGS BLOGGER MATTHEW BARRY... Although the Kings have yet to confirm the best kept secret (ah, the age of internet superhighway), the Kings have signed Stanley Cup Champion D-man Rob Scuderi to a four year 3.4 million dollar per year contract.

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#57 David S
July 02 2009, 02:12PM
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If they really want Heatley, the best thing the Oilers could do right now is walk away. They should say something like "that's our final offer, give us a call if you're still interested - within 48 hours please" and draw a line in the sand. Right now the power is in the opposition's court, as shown by the offer hike. Time to stop playing games and start playing chicken. Flush the deal out or flush it down.

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#58 Beukaboom
July 02 2009, 02:13PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

@ DonDon: Howson’s not an idiot. He isn’t going to trade his franchise player.

Maybe he still works for the Oilers? They had this senario played out 3 years ago.

* quietly goes back to cutting himself with small razor because pain makes him feel normal inside *

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#59 Curious
July 02 2009, 02:14PM
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@ DonDon:

The package is what it is. I wont go changing it. Murray is not in control of this anymore. His club gave a player a contract and is getting taken advantage of. Not entirely his fault but it is what it is. He is running the risk of losing his only trading partner now. It is time for him to turn up the heat on Healey and his camp and lay down the law. Becasue if the Oilers go to a plan B, he will have no option but to hold on.

I totally agree about abandoning this and looking at other options such as Kessel or Frolov. If I am Tambo (which I certainly am not) I am looking at other options so my press conference isnt about what could have been, it is here is our man.

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#60 oilcountry
July 02 2009, 02:15PM
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well first of all i would like to say gm murray is an absolute ideot. what makes him think hes going to get more for heatley now, if anything he would get less.. as LA, NYR,CAL,MTL,VAN....etc.. are no long interested. i find it really hard to take this guys serious, exspeshaly the stupid slure makes it even harder to talk him serious.. like spezza said lets just move on if he wants to go. cut you losses n be done with it. oil had to bite the bullet, someone elses turn..

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#61 RossCreek
July 02 2009, 02:18PM
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FROM FREQUENT JUST A GAME GUEST, ANDY STRICKLAND...

Don't Blame Heatley This Time! July 2, 2009, 1:55 PM ET

Look, I know I’ve been critical of Dany Heatley since he requested a trade a few weeks ago, but he should not be taking the heat (no pun intended) with this Edmonton situation.

Several days ago Heatley presented Ottawa with a list of teams he would accept a trade to and solid sources tell me Edmonton was NOT one of them.

Why should Heatley accept a trade to a city he never said he would go to?

So now Ottawa wants to basically trash Heatley publicly for not agreeing to this deal?

This is Bryan Murray’s fault for constructing a deal to a team Heatley never suggested he would play for.

Murray asked Heatley’s agent to provide Murray with a trade request in writing which specifically states Heatley will accept a deal to a “mutually” agreed hockey club.

They never mutually agreed to go to Edmonton.

You can’t force a trade on a player who has a no-move in his contract.

Murray had to have the trade request in writing to prevent a Joe Corvo situation from happening. If you remember Corvo said he didn’t ask for a trade after he was eventually moved. The club said Corvo did request to be traded.

So now it’s being painted like the club is waiting on Dany, but if the club would make a deal with a team he has identified as an organization he’ll play for we wouldn’t have this circus forced upon us. This is not about Heatley wanting to accept a trade on his terms. This is about accepting a trade to a team he said he would play for.

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#62 cm
July 02 2009, 02:18PM
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Pierre LeBrun with a great article.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?columnist=lebrun_pierre&id=4302680

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#63 DonDon
July 02 2009, 02:19PM
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@ RossCreek: Spezza has just entered a no trade contract.

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#64 BUCK75
July 02 2009, 02:19PM
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David S wrote:

give us a call if you’re still interested - within 48 hours please” and draw a line in the sand. Right now the power is in the opposition’s court, as shown by the offer hike.

I totally agree. I am getting sick of all this BS. I don't see this turning out very good. Murray is on crack if he thinks he has anymore leverage today than yesterday. I agree with Willis though thinking that giving up on Cogs is still worth the deal.

That was the best Hextall clip since this...the slash on Kent Nilsson lol. Take that Dany Heatley, you just got smacked the @%$# down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vyp1tNasFvw

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#65 RossCreek
July 02 2009, 02:19PM
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^^ wasn't all supposed to be bolded. WTF happened?

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#66 stolly
July 02 2009, 02:20PM
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RossCreek wrote:

FROM LA KINGS BLOGGER MATTHEW BARRY… Although the Kings have yet to confirm the best kept secret (ah, the age of internet superhighway), the Kings have signed Stanley Cup Champion D-man Rob Scuderi to a four year 3.4 million dollar per year contract.

Are you telling me Scuderi's deal is worth 13 million + ?

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#67 ronald
July 02 2009, 02:20PM
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oilcountry wrote:

exspeshaly

At the risk of being a dick (or do we call it a Heatley), if your argument is someone is stupid, you cannot spell "especially" this way.

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#68 Alon
July 02 2009, 02:21PM
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@ Jason Gregor:

Well the grounds are there, or atleast Bill Daily seems to think so.

I am not a lawyer but heres what I would expect the argument would look like:

When Dany Heatley asked to be traded he indicated a wish for a severance of ties with Ottawa, naturally this would also include the severance of any financial ties, such as salary, no longer obliging Ottawa to be responsible for the 4 mil bonus. Also, when Dany asked for the trade, he in a technical manner, acted to waive his No Movement Clause. No Movement Clauses (as far as I know) are broad and wouldn't specify whether or not if Player X demands a trade publicly, it is a true waive of the NMC, so there is an argument there. Now, with further information from Murray in which he says that Heatley and his camp were aware that the Sens were negotiating with the Oilers, and had even given Murray permission to negotiate with them, Murray can say Heatley led him on, and allowed him to negotiate in bad faith. Finally I think another argument could be made that Ottawa did all they could to move Heatley in an attempt to accomedate his request, and Heatley did not return the favour by nixing the deal.

All these prolly wouldnt matter though because if Murray files a grievance the NHLPA likely wont block it because regardless (as long as Heatley gets traded) Heatley still will get payed

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#69 Fish
July 02 2009, 02:21PM
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Why is this guy so batsh!t crazy?

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#70 Sweet Jimmy K
July 02 2009, 02:21PM
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This article has a great time line, with some behind the scenes info on it about the whole ordeal: http://mapleleafshotstove.com/index.php/2009/07/01/heatley-sag/

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#71 Matthew Barry
July 02 2009, 02:22PM
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stolly wrote:

Are you telling me Scuderi’s deal is worth 13 million + ?
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#72 Matthew Barry
July 02 2009, 02:22PM
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stolly wrote:

Are you telling me Scuderi’s deal is worth 13 million + ?

Yes

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#73 Curious
July 02 2009, 02:22PM
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@ oilcountry:

He is not an idiot. He is trying to appear to be in control of a situation, he clearly is not in control of anymore. He is trying to get the most out of bad situation for his club. He is trying to flush out another trading partner, another offer. He wants to get this done, the problem is he has a player under a contract his team negiotiated holding him hostage. He needs to talking to Heatley's camp before the Oilers go to plan B b/c if that happens he is screwed.

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#74 Doug
July 02 2009, 02:23PM
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Well sorry Andy Strickland but other "sources" have said Edmonton was on the list.

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#75 jenga
July 02 2009, 02:29PM
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Things are not as bleak as many seem to think. Look at the original plan going into the offseason (ie. Shore up the Goaltending situation (done) Acquire a real coach (done X 2), Get a goal scorer (TBA)).

This team is better than it was last year by the addition of Quinn and Renney. It is better by the addition of a goaltender who is not as old as I am (OLD). It will be better by the increased experience of Gagner. And it will be better because there are still trades to be made and the trade values of Smid/Gilbert/Souray/(insert name here) has gone up now that the values of their counterparts have been established in free agency.

It would have been great to get Heatley, but not like this. Not now. Move on.

Last, but not least, is nobody else as thrilled as I am to learn that Penner has at least some trade value???!!

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#76 Corey
July 02 2009, 02:30PM
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How about this?

Get Columbus involved in a 3 way trade with Columbus getting Heatley, Ottawa gets the 3 Oilers and Edmonton gets Nash.

Of course, Heatley would have to agree with going to Columbus which is no small feat!!

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#77 onehitwonder
July 02 2009, 02:32PM
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I don’t like to talk about players personal lives, so I’m just going to type one word of this post in ‘code’. Couldn’t all of Heatley’s erratic behavior in the past month be attributed to what’s rumored to have plagued him for years? That being of course that he’s a raging @L(0H0L!(

Let’s be honest here. He’s not alone at his summer home swimming 2 kms every morning, drinking protein shakes, catching up with old friends on Facebook.

“What? Kevin Lowe is coming HERE?” he screamed as he quickly scrapes up the three week old vomit off the carpet. “Are you kidding me? They have been talking about me in the press? OUCH!!!” as he stubs his toe on the dead call girl that he uses to cover the other crusty vomit patty on the carpet.

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#78 Harlie
July 02 2009, 02:34PM
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@ Sweet Jimmy K:

that article implies that Tambellini was the one who screwed up on the July 1st deadline for signing on when it actually came down. If that is true that is a huge rookie GM error. Absolutely huge! Not actually reading the whole contract document is crazy!

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#79 Sweet Jimmy K
July 02 2009, 02:40PM
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@ Harlie: That is what I thought. Add in what Slats had to say, and it starts to make this whole clusterf*ck, a bit clearer...and show that is it a complete and utter clusterf*ck.

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#80 Matthew Barry
July 02 2009, 02:40PM
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Doug wrote:

Well sorry Andy Strickland but other “sources” have said Edmonton was on the list.

Also from Strickland... Why would Edmonton sign Nikolai Khabibulin for $15 million when all they had to do was give Dwayne Roloson another year at $2.5? So instead of spending $15 they could have spent $5 million. Edmonton wouldn’t give Roloson the 2nd year he was looking for.

I’m told the Khabibulin deal was done about a month ago.

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#81 Doug
July 02 2009, 02:42PM
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@ Matthew Barry:

I have to admit I'm one of the ones scratching his head over Khabibulin as well.

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#82 OprahsSandwich
July 02 2009, 02:42PM
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@ onehitwonder

Ding ding!

There are some deep issues there.

But 50 goals dude......

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#83 Geoff
July 02 2009, 02:42PM
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Pretty pathetic Jason, that it sounds like you would still be open to bringing a guy like this to your team.

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#84 ronaldo
July 02 2009, 02:43PM
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What did slats say?

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#85 Deans
July 02 2009, 02:43PM
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For the last two years the Oilers have missed out on snabbing a quality offensive free agent b/c they have been too concerned w/ catching 'the big fish'. Unortunatly when they realize that either Heatley or Hossa isnt interested the plan b and plan c option has signed elsewhere. Next off season we should go for a double or triple instead of a home run. This home run or bust stradegy needs to stop. Another great article Greggor, you've done some great work in the last week.

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#86 Fish
July 02 2009, 02:44PM
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onehitwonder wrote:

I don’t like to talk about players personal lives, so I’m just going to type one word of this post in ‘code’. Couldn’t all of Heatley’s erratic behavior in the past month be attributed to what’s rumored to have plagued him for years? That being of course that he’s a raging @L(0H0L!( Let’s be honest here. He’s not alone at his summer home swimming 2 kms every morning, drinking protein shakes, catching up with old friends on Facebook. “What? Kevin Lowe is coming HERE?” he screamed as he quickly scrapes up the three week old vomit off the carpet. “Are you kidding me? They have been talking about me in the press? OUCH!!!” as he stubs his toe on the dead call girl that he uses to cover the other crusty vomit patty on the carpet.

Funniest post ever period

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#87 Robert....
July 02 2009, 02:45PM
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oilcountry wrote:

well first of all i would like to say gm murray is an absolute ideot.

Thanks...I needed that

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#88 RossCreek
July 02 2009, 02:46PM
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Marleau Gagne Kessel Frolov

There's other options

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#89 Curious
July 02 2009, 02:46PM
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@ Matthew Barry:

~Yeah it was done a month ago~

Thats the stupidest thing I have ever heard. You cant talk to a player when he is under contract to another team. Or are you implying the Oilers tampered with him and Bulin wasnt really injuried at the end of the Detroit - Chicago series and he was really in Edmonton signing a new contract.

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#90 VoiceOfReason
July 02 2009, 02:54PM
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Murray figures the cost of the deal just went up...right. Kind of like when Homer Simpson figured the price of pumpkins was going to skyrocket the day after Halloween. The fact that he can that with a straight face amazes me.

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#91 BUCK75
July 02 2009, 02:57PM
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This should be one of the biggest reasons why we should have tanked it once in the last 3 seasons. If we can't get established players to play in Edmonton, I guess we have to DRAFT THEM!!!

Exactly why we get pissed off when the GM pulls some magica deal out his ass every trade deadline, only to finish in 9th.

Take your pick of the last 3 drafts of top 3 picks who could become a cornerstone player. Either of the Kanes, Tavares, Duschene, or even Stamkos. Getting tired of the same old drama every summer.

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#92 Hemmertime
July 02 2009, 03:01PM
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BUCK75 wrote:

If we can’t get established players to play in Edmonton, I guess we have to DRAFT THEM!!!

How do we draft them? We were unable to move up in the draft. Explain exactly how you want to draft superstars. Its not like we are going "Oh this guy rocks, lets leave him for the next team"...

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#93 Shutout
July 02 2009, 03:01PM
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VoiceOfReason wrote:

Murray figures the cost of the deal just went up…right. Kind of like when Homer Simpson figured the price of pumpkins was going to skyrocket the day after Halloween. The fact that he can that with a straight face amazes me.

LOL Great Line. Nobody was lining up for this guy when the return value was low (before july 1). What makes Murray think they'll being lining up today instead with much more to offer. Ottawa's screwed big time.

But something tells me there is more to this than what we've all read or heard. I get the feeling the Heatley camp wanted to screw the $4 million out of Ottawa on purpose for some yet unexplained reason.

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#94 RossCreek
July 02 2009, 03:03PM
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DarrenDreger status quo for Heatley. No decision and none expected. 9 minutes ago from mobile web

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#95 Librarian Mike
July 02 2009, 03:16PM
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@ Sweet Jimmy K: @ cm:

Thanks for the links. Lebrun calling this a mess is the understatement of the summer for sure. But hey, we got a really good goalie who should be a great mentor for JDD or whomever backs him up so that's good news.

I'm starting to feel a little deflated after all this craziness. It would be nice if the Oilers stepped back so we can all pull up a lawn chair and enjoy the implosion of the Senators around Mr. Heatley just like every other team in the league.

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#96 risto
July 02 2009, 03:18PM
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What's involved in getting Simon Gagne here? He's RFA, i'd assume.

Penner, MacIntyre, Gilbert - Let's go Tambo!

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#97 Dallas
July 02 2009, 03:20PM
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@ RossCreek: yes ok but was calgary one of them if so I would like to know what the hell is the difference between them and us i say we have way better fans than them losers and with heatley and a few other peices we also have a winning team so wtf also even with JBo clg does not make it past the first round lmao still 4 more cups to catch up you wangers

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#98 scorecoff hemmercules
July 02 2009, 03:21PM
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All I want to know is if we are after anyone else?? Anyone?? ANYONE!!!???

I've seen this has asked many times over the past couple days and never a response from a Nation writer (unless I missed it somewhere??). I'll take it that since no one has answered that question we aren't going for anyone, sigh, this Heatly crap makes me want to cry.

Grebs??? WTF is going on there??? 3 weeks ago he was inked supposedly, yet he isn't, do we even want him anymore?? Let me guess, we can't sign Grebs until we know what Heatly's answer is!

*blows brains out with shotgun*

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#99 Hemmertime
July 02 2009, 03:21PM
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risto wrote:

What’s involved in getting Simon Gagne here? He’s RFA, i’d assume.

Signjed for 2 more years at 5.25. And dude, hes like 30. Not RFA

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#100 vern
July 02 2009, 03:29PM
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The oilers were not in a cap position to sign a big free agent. The only way to get a top end player (without screwing the team cap wise ie calgary at the end of last season) is through trade. Im sure the oil are exploring other trades and will pull the Heatly deal if one works out. As far as Roloson goes he was not going to resign here unless ther was no other options for him. He moved his family back to Ontario after the way he and they were treated at the start of last season. Even if we gave him two years he wold have taken the Ilanders offer. Rather than going with two unproven kids in goal the oil signed the best goalie they could get.Contrary to what all the armchair GMs think deals don't just happen because you want them to. Give the oil brass time and see where the team is come training camp before proclaming next season lost.

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