Team 1260: a good one gone

Robin Brownlee
July 27 2009 08:31PM

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Guys who've been around the media game as long as Bryn Griffiths see moves like what transpired today coming -- Griffiths was fired by Astral Media -- but that doesn't make it easy to swallow.

Griffiths, sports director at TEAM 1260 since the first minute the station hit the airwaves back in June of 2002, is taking his walking papers in stride, but I'd expect nothing less. That doesn't mean I like it.

I can't help but feel that Griffiths, who helped grow TEAM 1260 under boss Marty Forbes and served as co-host of More On Sports with Jake Daniels until Daniels was let go this spring, deserved better.

Whether you laughed at his morning shtick with Daniels or thought it was remarkably lame -- hardcore sports types voted for the latter -- it's never a good day when another veteran sports guy loses his job. Been there. Done that. It's no fun.

SAW IT COMING

"This is probably the most prepared I've ever been for a dismissal," Griffiths said. "There were little things that started to happen over the last year or so... Jake's dismissal, I didn't want to be a part of.

"When you work with somebody closely, that has to be done by higher-ups, not by you or else you've got blood on your hands."

With long-time co-host Daniels gassed by Astral Media in the wake of disappointing numbers in recent ratings periods, what unfolded today at a west end restaurant was of no great shock to Griffiths. Radio, like the newspaper biz, is a numbers game. If they don't add up...

"I was never involved in the process of finding a guy to replace Jake," Griffiths said. "I wasn't consulted, which is a good indicator of the fact you're out of the loop. I'd pretty much figured it out for the most part."

Word is, TEAM 1260 has hired a young broadcaster out of Fort McMurray and will add another voice out to take over the morning slot to complement the rest of its programming.

While some people will say "good riddance" over Griffiths' firing, just as they did with Daniels, he deserves better than that.

THE FIRST FLOOR

As a guy with input as sports director but never the final word or control of the budget, Griffiths deserves credit for trying to make TEAM 1260 a viable alternative to 630 CHED, which is never easy to do when taking on a rights holder with the keys to the big games in town, the Oilers and the Eskimos.

It was Griffiths who pushed to bring in Bob Stauffer in the days when nobody outside of family and friends knew who he was. Griffiths and Stauffer hatched Total Hockey in 2002, which morphed into Total sports and produced the best numbers TEAM 1260 has ever had. Stauffer got his shot because Griffiths was willing to roll the dice on him.

"Anytime somebody in the business gets let go you feel for them," Stauffer said. "I don't think the average sports fan realizes all the challenges Bryn was facing in his role.

"On a personal level, Bryn certainly was a major supporter of mine and I'm indebted to him for providing me with the opportunity he did."

Stauffer, of course, made Griffiths look pretty smart before he left to join 630 CHED as analyst to play-by-play man Rod Phillips.

"Bryn and Marty Forbes were my biggest boosters," Stauffer said. "Bryn helped get my career to the next level. For that, I'll be forever grateful."

-- Listen to Robin Brownlee every Thursday from 4 to 6 p.m. on Just A Game with Jason Gregor on Team 1260.

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A sports writer since 1983, including stints at The Edmonton Journal and The Sun 1989-2007, I happily co-host the Jason Gregor Show on TSN 1260 twice a week and write when so inclined. Have the best damn lawn on the internet. Most important, I am Sam's dad. Follow me on Twitter at Robin_Brownlee. Or don't.
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#151 OilersSuck
July 28 2009, 10:57PM
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Doug wrote:

@ OilersSuck: No, [Your Favorite Teams] Sucks!

Hahahah, intelligence on full display Doug. Tell me , how can you argue they don't suck? Good comeback though.

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#152 OilersSuck
July 28 2009, 11:00PM
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Oh and Doug, I seen an earlier post of yours on MMA, and the lack of respect it gets. I agree 100%with you on that, I thought Gregor would have had way more talk of it on his show.

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#153 DanMan
July 28 2009, 11:09PM
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The Scotty Bowman thing was stupid.

But Calgary does, indeed suck.

This is a STG true story. I'm at the Oasis concert there last September (big fan saw them here too) And midway through the concert and extremely $$$hitfaced guy a few rows behind us starts yelling "Oasis sucks" every 10 seconds or so. A few minutes later i noticed something fly in front of me. I look up and some people in the upper section are throwing full beers down at the people on the lower section. It wasn't just one or two people, beers were flying all over. Is this the local tradition or something?

Beautiful city, questionable people.

CALGARY SUCKS!!!!!

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#154 OilersSuck
July 28 2009, 11:15PM
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I just find it hilarious not being a calgary or edmonton fan how people take offense at a name "oilers suck" when they don't play for the team. If anything sucks, Oasis sucks, really really hard. You should be embarrassed you were at an oasis concert, let alone posting it.

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#155 David S
July 28 2009, 11:28PM
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Sounds like somebody's mom blocked the porn sites again.

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#156 DonovanMD
July 28 2009, 11:33PM
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The Brownlee/Gregor matchup is as previously said very entertaining. The closest we get now to the Stauffer/Spector matchup back in the day. When we got Stauffer/Brownle/Gregor on big shows like trade deadline day etc we were some lucky radio listeners.

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#157 Trent
July 29 2009, 12:36AM
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DanMan wrote:

The Scotty Bowman thing was stupid. But Calgary does, indeed suck. This is a STG true story. I’m at the Oasis concert there last September (big fan saw them here too) And midway through the concert and extremely $$$hitfaced guy a few rows behind us starts yelling “Oasis sucks” every 10 seconds or so. A few minutes later i noticed something fly in front of me. I look up and some people in the upper section are throwing full beers down at the people on the lower section. It wasn’t just one or two people, beers were flying all over. Is this the local tradition or something? Beautiful city, questionable people. CALGARY SUCKS!!!!!

I honestly thought this story was going to end with you turning around and it was Jake who was yelling and throwing beers.

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#158 DanMan
July 29 2009, 12:36AM
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@ David S:

LMFAO!

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#159 DanMan
July 29 2009, 12:39AM
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@ Trent:

Hahahaha "Take that flamer fans, I run the saddestdome, B@#!h! CCCCAAAALLLLGGRRRRRRIIEEEEEEE SSSSSUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKSSSSS"

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#160 thashiznit
July 29 2009, 07:15AM
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DanMan wrote:

Beautiful city, questionable people. CALGARY SUCKS!!!!!

I wholeheartedly agree...

I take pride in my ABC's and sports...

Anybody But Calgary!

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#161 Kung Pow
July 29 2009, 07:52AM
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Ender wrote:

This Dustin Neilson? That Dustin Neilson. I don’t know about this show specifically, but I know he just got hired by Team 1260 for a morning show. He has been between Fort Mac and Lethbridge over the last few years, so I’m assuming that’s who Brownlee’s talking about.

Dustin Neilson is on this morning. I'll give him the rest of the week before I start to judge.

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#162 Hat Pughes
July 29 2009, 08:48AM
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Ender wrote:

I’m fairly sure the new guy is Dustin Neilson. I went to high school with him. Hopefully he can keep his habs-fandom in reign on the air though, or he’ll have problems

Great!!! so we can all look forward to the Adil/Dustin Show

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#163 Librarian Mike
July 29 2009, 09:02AM
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Hat Pughes wrote:

Great!!! so we can all look forward to the Adil/Dustin Show

Now there's a dream come true.

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#164 Ender
July 29 2009, 11:11AM
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Apparently Dustin is sidekicking this week before taking over next week. Just so you know.

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#165 thashiznit
July 29 2009, 11:23AM
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Ender wrote:

Apparently Dustin is sidekicking this week before taking over next week. Just so you know.

As long as some one takes over AJ, that guy is brutall to listen too... way to serious for a morning show..

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#166 Travis Dakin
July 29 2009, 11:56AM
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Ender wrote:

Apparently Dustin is sidekicking this week before taking over next week. Just so you know.

They haven't really mentioned it on the station up here. He usually does the morning show with another guy and has been absent this week. We go through radio guys up here like toilette paper. Once in a while a good one comes in and he has been a good one. Pretty funny for a morning guy. Not sure how he will do on sports radio but he will be missed on the morning drive up here in Fort Mac. We used to have Adam Thompson up here too and he was great but he moved to sonic.

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#167 smiliegirl15
July 29 2009, 12:09PM
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The thing about radio signals is that not all signals are created equal. The bigger the number on the dial, the weaker the signal, which is why CBC is down in the 500s. Four digit signals are usually limited to the local programming area. This is why 630 CHED can be heard a lot farther than 1260. CHED's sister stations (all over the province) also share broadcasts (at least for Oilers games).

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#168 Ender
July 29 2009, 12:15PM
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@ Travis Dakin: Well, Dustin's moved back to Edmonton, and has an Edmonton phone #, so I'm pretty sure that he's not going back.

Doesn't surprise me that he's entertaining on the radio though. He always was in person.

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#169 freeze
July 29 2009, 12:20PM
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Travis Dakin wrote:

We go through radio guys up here like toilette paper.

People run away from Ft. Mac. at the first chance?!?! No way!

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#170 GarbageManBrian
July 29 2009, 02:08PM
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Very classy and succict Robyn ... well said indeed.

Good luck to both Bryn and Jake.

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#171 Jimbob
July 29 2009, 03:55PM
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Just another reason to stop listening to a Moribund Station...They will change formats soon..Gregor cant hold it all together...

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#172 oilers123
July 29 2009, 04:41PM
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Who cares 1260 sucks

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#173 Quicksilver ballet
July 29 2009, 07:26PM
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Best Wishes Bryn

Non voluntary change can be difficult....congrats on your freedom, hopefully you're better off in the long run.

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#174 FreeWheeling Fred Zepp
July 30 2009, 12:49AM
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Bryn you will be greatly missed.I have listened since day one to the team and am dissapointed to say the least.Jake was offered the job as co - host when the original co host to be Cubb Carson left town.You and Jake worked very well together.Both of you will land on your feet in very short order.You worked very hard for the station.The morning show is a tough gig on a all sports radio station.

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#175 RC
July 30 2009, 12:55PM
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Thanks fot the article Robin, had been away for a few days and was wondering what happened.

I started listening to the Team about a year ago. I was not a big fan of Jake, simply because I knew more than he did. But I certainly did appreciate Bryn. He was a little corny at times, but certainly had his heart in the right place.

Jason, I saw your comment earlier that you think the Team will be fine and that they are moving in the right direction...I hope so, but they better get a new advertising/marketing dept!!! Hearing the same spots 40 times a day is brutal (CanFab, Sherwood Dodge, Grove Dodge etc).

Robin, I quite enjoy the spots you do on Gregor, and would like to hear more. I think you have a great Radio personality because you come across as 'unrehearsed'.

Anything would be better than than horsecrap PMS show.

All the best Bryn. You deserved better treatment than you received.

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#176 gdawg
July 30 2009, 05:13PM
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its nice to have an alternative to the propaganda 630 ched dishes out regularily. When the oilers are playing bad a broadcaster should be able to tell it like it is. team 1260 is alright except for the commericials being played over and over like previous blog said. good luck jake and bryn. u guys had many years to try to make it work. it didnt the way the suits and ties wanted it to but they both left with class.

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#177 Benny
July 30 2009, 06:00PM
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Way too many REPEAT interviews throughout the day on all the local shows. I mean the morning show should be 2hrs if you take away all the repeat crap. Also, there is much too much local programing. J.T. the Brick has to be brought back at the 9pm slot.

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#178 Brian Rains
July 31 2009, 09:21PM
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@ RC: Have to agree with this one. I was away for a couple weeks in June and wasn't aware Jake had been gassed- just thought he may be on a vacation. Now this week Bryn goes. That rating score of 1 will just get smaller. I did listen to the "hosts" this week- underwhelming at this point Gregor is OK but his infatuation with MMA (Chris Benoit in waiting) is too much in my mind. My referance to Chris Benoit is not meant to be offensive to him and his family- only what the repercussions can be from sports like wrestling and MMA. Pretty hard to be a "fan" of that. Have to agree- the on air persoanlities weren't the problem- the sales and marketing dept is. Those constant "repeat" commercials are lame.

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#179 DMan
July 31 2009, 11:45PM
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Bryn, Thanks for bringing sports radio to Edmonton. This is what would be the best for the Team.

630 Ched purchase the1260 All pre and post game shows on TEAM than Oilers games on the big network 630 Bring back Bryn, with Bob, and Tencer, some Global Sports guys Bob can have drive home show on none Oiler nights All Eskimos Games on TEAM All Oil Kings Games on the TEAM Let 630 CHED be the (ABC Network) Let The TEAM be the (ESPN Network)

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#180 mike
August 01 2009, 12:33AM
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BAD MOVE by 1260!!!bryn & jake rocked.I think this could hurt ratings!let us know how they make out robyn, so i'll know where to tune my radio in the mornings now!!!!!

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#181 gdawg
August 03 2009, 02:12PM
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I cant say I enjoy the fox sports on the Team. The pace is at a snail's pace and most of the content sucks. As for the local programming side of things, I hope that they totally retool the morning show. Replaying interviews from the previous day is so lazy and dull. Keep the phone lines open longer and let the fans have more of a say. That is what the station is for right? The fans?

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#182 danoilfan
August 03 2009, 09:35PM
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@ Brian Rains: "only what the repercussions can be from sports like wrestling and MMA. Pretty hard to be a “fan” of that"

that is a very ignorant statement

MMA atheletes are probably tested more closely than the NHL, MLB, NBA, and NFL combined.

educate yourself before you speak.

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#183 lea
August 04 2009, 07:51AM
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I do try to listen to 1260 but it is so so disappointing that the reception is very poor. I do think this is a factor in your listening audience numbers. It is so frustrating that the reception is so poor. I live in Vegreville, and Calgary comes in much better, and I don't particulary enjoy listening to them. Try and up that power and you will surely get a larger listening audience. Thank you

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#184 Temmate Avry
August 04 2009, 10:01AM
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First Jake and now Bryn, its a shame two classy guys and some of the funniest on Edmonton Radio, their time was not bad, not bad.

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#185 BUCK75
August 04 2009, 11:01AM
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I was surprised to hear Dustin Nielson on the radio this morning after my vacation. Good for Him - Bad for Bryn.

That said I think Dustin will do just fine. He has been doing play-by play for the MOB in Ft Mac. Really good play-by-play guy who will be missed up there I am sure. He knows his hockey, has worked for Hockey's Future Radio so he knows what he is doing.

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#186 fritzeg
August 04 2009, 11:49AM
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This station is going in the toilet. When Stauffer left the replacements were (and still are) un-listenable. Now Bryn getting canned? I was never a fan of Jake, but Bryn was entertaining, knowledgeable, and had some good local sources. I listened to the new guy this morning and he talked for my entire commute about donairs! Plus the American shows talk about sports news I have no interest in. Last time my dial hits 1260 for awhile unfortunately.

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#187 Movin' on...
August 04 2009, 05:13PM
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The show was a big disappointment this morning. Totally unlistenable. I'll be listening to another station tomorrow morning. Big mistake by Astral...the beginning of the end...?

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#188 carry2
August 05 2009, 06:54PM
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Man, it's about time they got rid of those two bozos in the AM...Jake's hollering and Bryn's directing sucked.To bad they went to Fox...enjoyed Mike and Mike, but you can keep Jim Rome miwwions and miwwions of his wisteners. Nice to hear the change in the AM but the verdict is still out....Now if Brent Bullis would change his 6 yr old commercial.

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#189 zen guy
August 06 2009, 07:40AM
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I was never a fan of Daniels, however would GLADLY rather listen to him and Bryn, as opposed to AJJ and the new duo they have now.

Bryn was in a NO-WIN position and seems to me to have taken the fall by a bunch of suits that seem to think they know better. It's day 3 of the "new" morning lineup, and I don't think I can stick around for day 4.

Team 1260 is down one morning listener.

All the best to Bryn and Jake.

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#190 Neil
August 06 2009, 05:14PM
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I'm not sure if people understood the dynamic or the interplay between Bryn and Jake. Bryn was the straight man to Jakes goof ball schtick. I was a firm believer that it worked, but what do I know. I loved it when Jake would get out of control and Bryn would try to put him back in line. The conversations during commercials were probably very entertaining, Anyway, both deserved better. Both will land on their feet. I'd like to hear Jake on a rock station again(K-Rock, Hello!!!). Bryn should take some time. Go on a holiday, spend some time with his family and when he's ready, tune back into 1260 in time to watch it crash and burn. Another real article from Mr. Brownlee. No holds barred blog.

Thanks Robin.

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#191 Scott Mah
August 06 2009, 09:50PM
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i hope murph goes on more but these new guys are not doing so well i have had to change the station many times this week after hearing them balble on about supid stuff and time out for comedy has become a joke in its self ever since marty forbes left i hate to say it but the station has gone to hell

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#192 Oggie Ogilthorpe
August 07 2009, 09:44AM
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The place started a downhill slide when Stauffer left, then continuous "replays" of the previous days show,and too much US programming. I enjoyed More On Sports and Gregor, other than that, just couldn't be bothered to listen to the other shows. These new guys are pretty hard to take! I just don't get their shtick.

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#193 Brian Rains
August 08 2009, 12:05PM
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@ danoilfan: I am not only driving my point towards drug / steroid abuse, but you get your head slammed as many times as wrestlers and MMA do and health repercussions have to happen. Combine that with steroids- and don't be so naive to think that isn't happening- and you have a prescription for disaster. It isn't a matter of my being ignorant to the testing in sports, I know some sports are trying. It is a matter of people like you refusing to accept what is now normal behaviour in many athletes- just go to your local gym.

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#194 K. Kadla
August 10 2009, 05:45PM
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First Jake, now Bryn. Boredom now reigns...a station with the worst a.m. show in the nation. The a.m. slot with B & J was enlightening, the straight man & sidekick scenerio working well. Despite the ratings, when it's not broke, don't fix it. Perhaps if B & J were more aggressive towards callers with idiot comments, controversy always creates better listenership. Then again, who knows if the directive wasn't to offend the caller, 'cos you know, ratings. Well, the best anchors the a.m. show had went thru the bottom of the boat. And the show is sinking. Anyone want to start a new all Sports Station? Or R there competition laws? But what competition! B & J to the front of the line. Personally, as for The Team, per Jim Rome, I'm out!!!!

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#195 K. Kadla
August 10 2009, 10:57PM
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Oh yeah, the 'Calgary Sucks' has been superceded by...the Team sucks!!!! In memory of JD.

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#196 KenL
August 12 2009, 10:35AM
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I've been on summer holidays and thought maybe Bryn was too. And while I wasn't the biggest fan of Bryn and Jake, the first couple of years of Team's existence - they were a breath of fresh air.

Since Stauffer left for greener pastures, the Team has steadily been on a downward spiral. I can't stand Gregor, who comes off like a Bryan Hall wannabe. He doesn't let callers talk, and seems more interested in talking with guests and co-hosts.

Stauffer was great in that he let callers have their say, whether he agreed with them or not. Stauffer also has a great sense of humor and just comes off as people person. I sorely miss his shows with Laraque, Spector and Reid as co-hosts. If it weren't for Brownlee, Barnes, and Rishaud as co-hosts, I wouldn't listen to Gregor at all.

I'm sure Bryn and Jake will resurface on the radio scene in Edmonton. The early years of the Team was fantastic with the duo in the morning, Stauffer in the afternoon, John Short in the evening, Gregor late night (where he wasn't as annoying), Ron Rimmer and Tony Furillo on the weekends.

That was an amazing schedule of local talent. And it's disappointing that other Stauffer, none of these shows didn't make a dent on CHED's listener unfriendly options. Before the Team, there were no trade deadline shows, no NHL draft day shows.

I hope the Team is able to rediscover its past glories, which wasn't that long ago.

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