Do you see what I see, edition V

Jason Gregor
August 10 2009 02:12PM

Another weekend came and went, and once again I ingested far too many Limons and water, grenades and copious beers, yet I still managed to make it home without acting like a complete douchebag towards a cab driver.

I don’t get why people treat cabbies with such disrespect. These guys get you home in one piece, they save you from an impaired charge and if there weren’t cabs we’d either all be getting impaireds or we’d have to have pick designated drivers every night out. Hands up how many of you guys willing offer to be the DD on a regular basis?

Patrick Kane you are a cheap ass idiot!

I’m sorry there is no defence for what he and his chicken-ass cousin James allegedly did to a Buffalo cab driver this past weekend. The Kanes have been charged with felony robbery and misdemeanour counts of theft and criminal mischief. All of this allegedly stemmed from the cabbie not having 20 cents in change.

20 cents? Really that’s what these two tight-asses were upset about? The original fare was $13.80 and the cabbie supposedly only had a dollar in change. Being that much of a tight-ass is just as embarrassing as allegedly beating up a 62-year-old cab driver.

It will be interesting to see what the NHL does regarding this situation. The NFL has a code of conduct that the players have to follow, and the NHL needs to follow suit. There is wording in each NHL contract that states the player needs to act professional on and off the ice, but the league doesn’t have anything close to what the NFL has right now. Gary Bettman should act quickly, regardless of what transpires in Kane’s case, and implement a code of conduct that clearly outlines suspensions and so forth when players act like baffoons.

Is shooting yourself in the leg any worse than allegedly beating up a 62-year-old cab driver? I might argue it's worse, since Plaxico Burress’ stupidity only hurt himself.

This has been a horrendous PR summer for the Blackhawks. Their franchise player, who never hits anyone on the ice, but is a tough guy against an old man, is in hot water. A front office blunder with contract offers got Dale Tallon demoted, Marian Hossa signs a 12-year deal and a month later it’s announced he needs shoulder surgery and the now the league is investigating that same 12-year contract. Not the "Summer of George" by any stretch for the Hawks.

The Kane incident is by far the most egregious, and unless some facts come to light that we haven’t seen it will be impossible for the league to defend his actions.

Tough little man

While many will snicker and ridicule Theo Fleury for wanting to make a comeback seven years after leaving the NHL, I don’t see it being an issue. If he proves to the league that he has followed their substance abuse policy why wouldn’t they re-instate him?

The bigger question is whether a team will give him a tryout. Why wouldn’t a team bring him to camp with just an invitation to prove he can play? If he shows well in camp and the preseason then they can sign him, if not, both sides will know that he’s done.

Right now I have way more respect for Fleury than Kane. Fleury battled the bottle and his demons for many years, and if he has them under control I’d give him a look. Addiction is tough to beat, and having seen my late uncle battle it for many years, it can beat a person down. After all he has been through if Fleury needs to go to camp and see for himself how good he is, I hope a team at least gives him a chance to find out.

Smid close

The Oilers and Ladislav Smid are close to getting a deal done. The Oilers would like him to sign for three years, while his camp is looking for a one or two year deal. Talks have been progressing and both sides are confident they will get something done soon.

No truth to the Smid for Plekanec deal at all. The Oilers don’t have room for another forward, unless the deal has them sending out a forward, and why would they want another 20- goal scorer. They need a 35-goal scorer, and Plekanec isn't that guy.

It sounds more and more like Andrew Cogliano will get a look at LW when camp opens. They tried him there in his rookie season, but he was lost. At that time he felt he was a centreman, but I wonder if he feels differently now that he has been schooled in the faceoff dot two years in a row. If he starts on the LW from the first day of camp I don’t see why he can’t make the change.

Don’t be surprised if Dustin Penner takes a few shifts on the RW as well. He admitted last year that while it isn’t his first choice, he isn’t against playing there.

Pat Quinn will implement a much more up-tempo style, and that should benefit guys like Nilsson, O’Sullivan and Cogliano.

Right now it seems the 3rd and 4th line winger slots are much clearer than the top two lines. Moreau and Pisani are 3rd liners while Jacques and Stortini occupy the 4th line.

Right now only Hemsky and Gagner are locks in the top six. Hemsky will be the 1st line right winger, while Gagner will be one of the top two centres. Horcoff might find himself on the 3rd line, although I think that’s a long shot. Nilsson, Penner, O’Sullivan, Cogliano will battle for the other slots, but it seems clear that Quinn wants to evaluate these guys on how they play HIS system, not what they’ve done, or not done, in the previous few years.

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One of Canada's most versatile sports personalities. Jason hosts The Jason Gregor Show, weekdays from 2 to 6 p.m., on TSN 1260, and he writes a column every Monday in the Edmonton Journal. You can follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/JasonGregor
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#1 Al
August 10 2009, 02:23PM
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I agree about Cabbies...why do people treat them so poorly. And do you really think that Horcoff would play on the 3rd line making as much as he does? I can't see how that will work. Would he accept that role or pout.

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#2 Ogden Brother
August 10 2009, 02:23PM
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I hope Quinn keeps Hemmer/Horc together for Hemsky's sake.

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#3 Josh
August 10 2009, 02:26PM
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I wonder if Kane will get to be EA's cover boy for NHL 10 after that stunt he pulled with the cabbie. It doesn't surprise me that he did something like that cause I don't expect much from a classless puke like him....

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#4 Matty31
August 10 2009, 02:27PM
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Cabbies are usually nice guys and just out there making a living. All bad ones I have met are in Vegas. Most are pricks trying to make more than they are entitled to and trying to take guys for rides!!!

There better be more to the Kane story or he is a big idiot. He must have been wasted beyond belief. At least he was smart enough to take a cab.

Any word on Kessel and the Oil?

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#5 Curious
August 10 2009, 02:27PM
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isnt it customary to tip a cab driver... When I take a cab I feel bad leaving just a $20 for a $17.70 cab ride. Drunk or not, what the hell was Kane thinking? I really like him as a hockey player but he lost all respect from me.

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#6 Shifty203
August 10 2009, 02:28PM
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Meh, I am going to wait a little longer before I pass judgement on this kane situation. It sounds a little fishy still. No one knows what really happened. Maybe the cabbie recognized him and started the fight cause he figured the guy could afford to give him a decent tip. Thats not to say I think its all the cabbies fault, but I definatley think there is more to this story than what we have heard.

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#7 Red Tide
August 10 2009, 02:28PM
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It's to bad that Kane will get the celebrity judicial treatment. It would serve him well to get the average joe treatment of 3-4 for assualt and battery which is the norm in the US for this sort of crime.

Instead he will get a slap on the wrist and have to pay the cabbie a handful of what amounts to change to him. All he will learn is that as bad as these situations are, he can buy himself out because he gets to play by a different set of rules.

I hope I am wrong, but I doubt it...

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#8 scorecoff hemmercules
August 10 2009, 02:28PM
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Theo needs to stop dreaming and get a coaching job somewhere if he wants back in the game. Is he even in decent shape at the moment or even played pro hockey in the last 3 years? (too lazy to read lame articles about him and his comeback). I would be shocked if he ended up being signed or even invited to camp by any team. Sundin and C. Lemieux were weak, why would Fleury be any different?

Good news about Smid.

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#9 scorecoff hemmercules
August 10 2009, 02:33PM
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@ Shifty203:

I'm with you. I think here's more to this. All anyone really knows at this point is what some 60 cabbie said went down. How do we know he's not just trying for a money grab. Kane pleaded not guilty too. Nothing against cab drivers but this just seems fishy over 20 cents. That said, Kane was probably drunk (and underage) being an a**hole with his friends.

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#10 scorecoff hemmercules
August 10 2009, 02:34PM
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edit

*60 year old cabbie....

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#11 Oilersordeath
August 10 2009, 02:37PM
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Jeezus! this doesn't suprise me at all! Have you guys seen they way this little "wigga" acts and dresses? He's a little thug wanna-be. Hat sideways, pants hanging down to his knees. I'll let up on passing to much judgement for now, but it still just doesn't suprise me.

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#12 Ender the Dragon
August 10 2009, 02:46PM
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Here's a cute quip I saw today:

Eric Francis; Sun Media wrote:

My 20 cents on Patrick Kane: If his case does go to trial, he'll easily beat all charges. His lawyer simply has to summon any number of coaches and teammates who will wholeheartedly testify to the fact they've never seen Kane hit anything in his entire career.

Priceless.

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#13 Wanye Gretz
August 10 2009, 02:48PM
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Having read Gregor's article and his comparison to Plaxico Burress - I strongly suggest you go read my article about Patrick Kane and my comparison to former Superbowl Hero Plaxico Burress.

*facepalm*

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#14 team dean
August 10 2009, 02:50PM
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classless puke, douchebag, thug wanna-be, all fitting nicknames for kane. he was probably to drunk to navigate his skateboard home. it isn't suprising though with kane, maybe he needs to spend less time with his family and more time with the toews household and learn some values. if half of the report is true, the league and the chicago blackhawks need to come down on him with the hammer of god. especially the blackhawks with there summer of blunders need to act fast to save face.

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#15 team dean
August 10 2009, 02:51PM
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Ender the Dragon wrote:

Here’s a cute quip I saw today: Eric Francis; Sun Media wrote: My 20 cents on Patrick Kane: If his case does go to trial, he’ll easily beat all charges. His lawyer simply has to summon any number of coaches and teammates who will wholeheartedly testify to the fact they’ve never seen Kane hit anything in his entire career. Priceless.

lolololol once again proof eric francis is the biggest moron in sports journalism today

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#16 MattL
August 10 2009, 02:55PM
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I wouldn't be sad to see Horc at 3C. We have 3 other guys that are capable as offensive centermen, 2 of which can even take draws! Then Horc could be out for every PK, and maybe even some PP time, both of which are scenarios where faceoffs are even more important.

Cogs-Gags-Hemmer Nilsson-Sully-Penner (re-arrange first two lines at will) Moreau-Horc-Pisani Storts/Brule/Smac/MAP/Jacques/Stone/Struds/Kitchen Sink

Souray-Gilbert Vis-Grebs Staios/Smid/Peckham/Struds/Stick Drill Pilons

Bulin JDD Tommy Salo Comeback Special

8th place is a LOCK this year!

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#17 swany
August 10 2009, 02:56PM
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Gregor I just watched TSN clips and does Eberle have a realistic shot at making the club this year?

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#18 OvenChicken8
August 10 2009, 02:57PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

There is wording in each NHL contract that states the player needs to act professional on and off the ice, but the league doesn’t have anything close to what the NFL has right now.

Isn't this the same clause they used to suspend Avery? If so, I'd say make an example of this JA.

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#19 Heatly
August 10 2009, 03:00PM
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Most cabbies are fine, however a certain percentage a crooks too but doesn't justify physical voilence.

I was in Montreal last year and this cabbie took me around the block for $17.00. I gave him $20 and he said he didn't have change. I wanted to hit him after we got off the cab, but was too drunk to know it : )

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#20 Zamboni Driver
August 10 2009, 03:03PM
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5 am....in BUFFALO.

I'm pretty sure he wasn't recognized for being a 'celebrity'.

But he sure as hell will be now.

Somewhere in 'beautiful Buffalo' a boatload of ambulance chasers just started feeling funny in their pants.

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#21 just a thought
August 10 2009, 03:05PM
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Watched the oilers dvd last night of the '97 conference finals game 7. Low and behold, there was a young Todd Marchant playing LW on a line centered by Weight.

Seeing this, it occurred to me that this whole Cogliano on LW 'experiment' shouldn't be a big deal. And it definitely doesn't mean to the end of his days as a centre in the NHL. Put him with a good centre he can observe and learn a few things from, it seems so simple. A casual observer like me notices this yet Kevin Lowe, whom played on that team, doesn't.

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#22 MattL
August 10 2009, 03:16PM
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@ just a thought:

I guess you know more about hockey than Kevin Lowe. Yep, that makes perfect sense.

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#23 Jason Gregor
August 10 2009, 03:22PM
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swany wrote:

Gregor I just watched TSN clips and does Eberle have a realistic shot at making the club this year?

I think he is a long shot. He'd have to be unreal in camp and the preseason, otherwise they will let him dominate in the WHL and help Canada go for a 6th straight gold at the WJC.

If he sticks, it will be on the top two lines, and that means they'd have to get rid of another forward. Right now they have too many guys with similar size and skill sets as Eberle, not to mention one-way deals so I think he will be back in the WHL.

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#24 Nick Dynasty
August 10 2009, 03:29PM
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Lets hope EA sports bounces Kane from the NHL10 cover for his off ice antics and they replace it with this one (not mine, found it online)

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg193/sprimaging/Hemsky-NHL-10-PS3-1.jpg?t=1244398004

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#25 Ogden Brother
August 10 2009, 03:30PM
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just a thought wrote:

Watched the oilers dvd last night of the ‘97 conference finals game 7. Low and behold, there was a young Todd Marchant playing LW on a line centered by Weight. Seeing this, it occurred to me that this whole Cogliano on LW ‘experiment’ shouldn’t be a big deal. And it definitely doesn’t mean to the end of his days as a centre in the NHL. Put him with a good centre he can observe and learn a few things from, it seems so simple. A casual observer like me notices this yet Kevin Lowe, whom played on that team, doesn’t.

Riiiiggghhtt, Stupid Kevin Lowe for not realize Marchant playing LW in 97 means Cogs should be there.

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#26 Ogden Brother
August 10 2009, 03:34PM
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MattL wrote:

@ just a thought: I guess you know more about hockey than Kevin Lowe. Yep, that makes perfect sense.

Went to your site, oddly enough the guy in your video went to school with me. Small world.

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#27 team dean
August 10 2009, 04:06PM
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glad someone brought up the point of sean avery, sure i don't like the guy. but all he tryed to do is get into the kitchen of a neanderthal, who has the i'q of a wet fart. by making fun of his girlfriend( who to this day i don't get what she's saw in him, plus isn't he pierre maguires girlfriend already?) yet the league wanted to run avery out of hockey. kane, beating a senior citizen cab driver over 20 cents? much worse

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#28 OprahsSandwich
August 10 2009, 04:17PM
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Theo can't make a come back.

He has to finish his subsatnce abuse program first. He's only in stage three, I think.

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#29 ronaldo
August 10 2009, 04:24PM
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Oilersordeath wrote:

Jeezus! this doesn’t suprise me at all! Have you guys seen they way this little “wigga” acts and dresses? He’s a little thug wanna-be. Hat sideways, pants hanging down to his knees.

Agreed. We should have obviously seen this coming. I don't see why we just can't throw these punks in jail before they start committing crimes. Dressed like this it's only a matter a time before they before do. If only parents would ensure their kids dressed properly, we wouldn't have these problems.

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#30 David S
August 10 2009, 05:00PM
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Interesting that Smid wants a shorter deal and the Oilers are going longer. I thought it was usually the other way around. His camp is obviously betting he's going to have a big upside in the next year or so.

In other news, the Oilers posted the Gregor-Strudwick showdown in 'mo-town at their site. Pretty funny to see Gregor shag one to the warning track, completely destroying a pro athlete in the process. Nice one Jason!

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#31 BK
August 10 2009, 05:35PM
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GREGOR WROTE:

"Their franchise player, who never hits anyone on the ice, but is a tough guy against an old man..."

THAT is freaking funny!

By the way, I totally agree with your take on cabbies, and am I the only one who tips them!?!?! What was he doing asking for change when he only gave him 15 bucks anyway!

RE DICK YOU LUS!

20 cents will cost him tens of thousands in legal, and potentially hundreds of thousands in sponsorships.

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#32 Sandra
August 10 2009, 06:56PM
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BK wrote:

GREGOR WROTE: “Their franchise player, who never hits anyone on the ice, but is a tough guy against an old man…” THAT is freaking funny! By the way, I totally agree with your take on cabbies, and am I the only one who tips them!?!?! What was he doing asking for change when he only gave him 15 bucks anyway! RE DICK YOU LUS! 20 cents will cost him tens of thousands in legal, and potentially hundreds of thousands in sponsorships.

Lets hope that if Kane gets away with it, that the cabbie at least can retire with what the Hawks pay/bribe him with. Grow up Patty, if your dad was a cab driver I would biatch slap him for this, and then watch as you cry. Does anyone know if he was balling when he got arested?

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#33 A few new Oilers updates courtesy of Oilers Nation | Putting on the Foil
August 10 2009, 07:33PM
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[...] off, credit to Jason Gregor for the great update on Oilers Nation (with it being off-season, I’ll take anything.. but these are some good Oil-related [...]

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#34 Heazues
August 10 2009, 07:37PM
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kane IS a douce. this doesnt look like it had ANYTHING to do with .20 cents. if a kid makes damn near a million dollars a year, you would think that cabbie would have made a hefty tip,(kids throw money away more often than not) but no. instead he gets beat up because he didnt carry the proper change....

did his parents not teach the little snot anything about respect? human decency? or was he brought up to know that once he made his fortune he would no longer be held to such trivial things as laws, or concience?

utterly discusting.

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#35 Archaeologuy
August 10 2009, 08:18PM
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@ Jason Gregor:

Hey Jason, did Fearless Fred actually chain a propane tank to your tire on Friday?

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#36 MattL
August 10 2009, 08:27PM
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@ Ogden Brother:

You mean the guy that's in the video I totally bash? Uh oh, I hope you aren't a fan of his hilarious videos...

World's getting smaller every day, which is why I don't worry about gas prices.

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#37 B.C.B.
August 10 2009, 09:22PM
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regarding Theo Fleury: he is a cheapskate. I worked as a bellmen/valet for many years at a hotel on the westend of Edmonton. He would bring his whole family and rent the cheapest rooms and ask for an up-grade every time. The whole time he order hotel workers around, like we were worthless and there at his beck and call. Never did he tip anyone ever: I mean what kind of cheapskate yells orders at a valet that makes $8/hour, or freaks out at the maid for not having his (disgusting) room clean by 2pm. Never a thank you, never a nice word, and never a buck or two (ps: most blue-colar folks give between $5-10 to park their car and carry their bags). I will never cheer for that man: I hope he gets that tryout and they send him packing because he is so bad. F*ck him and his battles with the bottle.

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#38 Sandra
August 10 2009, 11:31PM
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B.C.B. wrote:

regarding Theo Fleury: he is a cheapskate. I worked as a bellmen/valet for many years at a hotel on the westend of Edmonton. He would bring his whole family and rent the cheapest rooms and ask for an up-grade every time. The whole time he order hotel workers around, like we were worthless and there at his beck and call. Never did he tip anyone ever: I mean what kind of cheapskate yells orders at a valet that makes $8/hour, or freaks out at the maid for not having his (disgusting) room clean by 2pm. Never a thank you, never a nice word, and never a buck or two (ps: most blue-colar folks give between $5-10 to park their car and carry their bags). I will never cheer for that man: I hope he gets that tryout and they send him packing because he is so bad. F*ck him and his battles with the bottle.

Isn't Fluery divorced......Twice?

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#39 The Rush to Judgement - OilersNation.com
August 11 2009, 06:30AM
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[...] Jason Gregor: Patrick Kane you are a cheap ass idiot! …. I’m sorry there is no defence for what he and his chicken-ass cousin James allegedly did to a Buffalo cab driver this past weekend. The Kanes have been charged with felony robbery and misdemeanour counts of theft and criminal mischief. All of this allegedly stemmed from the cabbie not having 20 cents in change. [...]

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#40 shakey
August 11 2009, 12:59PM
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@ B.C.B.: Ask some people in Lloydminster what they think of Little Theo when he was playing in the Allen Cup there a few years ago. He couldn't have been a bigger prick and had to be 'escorted' out of the rink by security because of his on-ice side-show. He made a lot of enemies in his short stay there. But Theo doesn't give a sh*t what anyone thinks. He's a little timebomb just waiting to go off again. His fuse might just be a little longer now.

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#41 Milli
August 12 2009, 07:43AM
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I'm pretty sure that they shouldda just given the 15 bucks and left.....I believe it's called a tip.

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#42 tyler
August 12 2009, 03:52PM
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wonder if kaner was drinking the godforsaken Rye that would explain alot haha

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