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Robin Brownlee
August 16 2009 02:20PM

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So, Edmonton Oilers GM Steve Tambellini might be considering dipping into his depth on defence to facilitate a trade? Gosh, that had never occurred to me.

I'm not sure about you, but items this week suggesting Tambellini might deal from the back end don't exactly strike me as a revelation. I thought attempting to move one of Lubomir Visnovsky, Sheldon Souray, Tom Gilbert or Denis Grebeshkov was a given, dating back to before the last trade deadline. A no-brainer. Obvious. No?

Apparently there is something new in that. David Staples, in his Cult of Hockey blog over at The Journal:

"There's been a few mentions -- which I would take as strong hints -- from media guys close to the Oilers, such as Dan Tencer and Jim Matheson, that the Oil might be thinking about trading a defenceman... "

Again, not to put too fine a point on it -- or drag out excerpts from this site in recent months pointing out that dealing a defenceman for a first-line left-winger or a proven defensive centre makes sense -- what's new?

Of course trading one of the Big Four is a move that's coming. Gibberish from assistant GM Kevin Prendergast about standing pat notwithstanding, it's not a matter of if but when. And who?

What I'm waiting to see, is who will claim they called this one.

This and that

— All the above, of course, depends on trading money for money. That, as much as all the time that was tied up in the fruitless pursuit of Dany Heatley, is why Tambellini hasn't pulled the trigger on anything yet. The Oilers have too much salary tied up in their top four.

The other complicating factor has been the status of Visnovsky's shoulder. Will he be 100 per cent to start the season? Take Visnovsky out of the mix and it gets dicey dealing away one of the other three until you know exactly when he'll be ready to go.

— If you've been a fan of the Oilers for more than 15 minutes, then you know Matheson telegraphs a lot of trades ahead of time. Part of it is he's plugged in like nobody else when it comes to this team. Occasionally, he'll fly a trial balloon of his own.

So, given the Oilers need for a third-line centre -- competition between Marc Pouliot and Gilbert Brule aside -- what do we make of his multiple mentions of UFA Blair Betts in recent weeks?

I can tell you that Betts is somebody the Oilers are looking at, but my understanding is Tambellini is lukewarm on him. That's not new, either, but for fans thinking Betts might be a good idea, don't hold your breath. Then again, if Betts doesn't get another offer, why not invite him to training camp without a contract for a look-see?

— If Jerry Reinsdorf get the Phoenix Coyotes and Wayne Gretzky gets bumped out in the process -- which sounds automatic if Reinsdorf gets the team -- I wouldn't be surprised to see Craig MacTavish end up in Arizona.

— Players are filing back into town and lot of them will be on the ice this week at Perry Pearn's conditioning camp at K of C Arena.

A fine mess

— Speaking of a look-see, I find it amusing that some fans are screaming about nepotism over the revelation Mark Messier was interviewed for a coaching position. So what? What's the harm.

I've got to admit I was asleep at the switch on this one -- Larry Brooks wrote about it in the New York Post.

I heard Messier's name come up before Pat Quinn and Tom Renney were hired, but I dismissed it. I thought, and wrote here, it was unlikely Messier would end up as a coach with the Oilers. I always had him pegged as going into management. That said, I didn't know he'd actually been interviewed.

-- Listen to Robin Brownlee every Thursday from 4 to 6 p.m. on Just A Game with Jason Gregor on Team 1260.

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#51 DangerMan
August 16 2009, 07:21PM
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@ Robin Brownlee: I think Buffalo would be tripping over themselves at a chance at Tom Gilbert when their highest point Dman is Craig Rivet with a whopping 24 points last season. I agree its not perfect as the haggling point would be Marc Pouliot and how useful Buffalo would have him be. I think any one of Pouliot/Brule/Schremp/Omark/Nilsson would be alright to deal from an Oiler standpoint and a no-go on Gagner/Cogliano/Eberle/MPS.

While its not perfect, I think its in the ballpark with some hardcore haggling involved.

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#52 Dallas
August 16 2009, 07:45PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

Ulanov wrote: As far as trading one of our top d-men goes, it is most likely that Souray is the one being shopped. Truth be told, by the time the likes of Gagner, Cogliano, Smid, and Grebeskov etc. really come into their own to the point where the Oilers can truly become contenders, Souray will be done here anyways. The fact that he has been here for three years now and his family still hasn’t moved here from L.A. is telling - as is the for sale sign on his front lawn. Nobody should be surprised if he has already played his last game as an Oiler. Coming off a rare healthy season, his trade value may never be higher either. You’re trying to come off as something of an authority here but you’re not. – Based on your premise of Souray “being done” by the time younger players develop, Visnovsky is just as much of a candidate, no? More, if you consider he’s older. – Souray has been here for two seasons, not three, and him selling his house has nothing to do with anything. Neither does his “family” not moving here from Los Angeles — he and his wife are divorced. – Finally, when somebody asks me a question, don’t feel the need to jump in and answer it for me. Lmao you tell em Robin that was funny and anyone who know anything bout da oilers would know that Sourey is divorced even I knew that, and he could be selling his house to buy another one how do we know. Lmao
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#53 Dallas
August 16 2009, 07:50PM
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@ DangerMan: Agreed on all except for maybe Brule havnt seen enough of him to know what the oilers have there,but agreed the untouchables are UNTOUCHABLES might wanna throw Hemmer in there as well. But for forwards all the rest are tradeable

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#54 typol99
August 16 2009, 07:52PM
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players that need to go.........@ DangerMan: STAIOS SCHREMP pouliot moreau nilsson brule jacques PENNER nickerson

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#55 Gunner
August 16 2009, 09:05PM
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@ typol99: Why can't you just type like a normal person? Please do us all a favor and start responding in the same fashion most everyone else does on here. It will help the people on here take you more seriously. /rant

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#56 typol99
August 16 2009, 09:20PM
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indeed there gunner skull...No how exactly do i do that@ Gunner:

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#57 typol99
August 16 2009, 09:26PM
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Gunner wrote:

@ typol99: Why can’t you just type like a normal person? Please do us all a favor and start responding in the same fashion most everyone else does on here. It will help the people on here take you more seriously. /rant

im not following u..How is this not normal..im confused..maybe give me some direstion there gunner vet caquse typol99 is a rookie....jam packed with stats and oiler knowledge that will blow u away..gretzky seemed to think i was normal.infact i had him poissing him self laughing.." i like u tyler, your a very funny guy, the world need more funny people.. direct quote from 99 him self. Perhaps dont be so judgmental and thick headed..i bet ur still single..(thats me being judgmental now)

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#58 Robin Brownlee
August 16 2009, 09:31PM
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Gunner wrote:

@ typol99: Why can’t you just type like a normal person? Please do us all a favor and start responding in the same fashion most everyone else does on here. It will help the people on here take you more seriously. /rant

This is the web equivalent of the kid at school with the cattle ring through his nose, the streak of purple in the hair or doing the walking-dead goth thing. Hey, maybe our man typso I99 puts his Stanfields on over his pants so people will notice. And see? We bit. For shame.

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#59 typol99
August 16 2009, 09:34PM
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LOL hoe lay fahk bud..thats helarious yeee hawwwww mo fo...@ Robin Brownlee:

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#60 Robin Brownlee
August 16 2009, 09:48PM
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@ typol99: Yes it is. I'm imagining a pasty-faced little twirp with a Kate Gosselin haircut, probably some heinous Arnie (acne) on his chin and thumb rings who speeds around town in a crappy little car delivering pizza for Panago while fantasizing he knows Wayne Gretzky. Add the Stanfields, and, yes, it's damn funny.

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#61 oilFan
August 16 2009, 09:58PM
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Good call Robin. Robin please answer my question regarding listening to 1260 online. Can I catch the show online ? I'm out of town or 1260 range. I hve yet to hear you and Gregor but would love to listen in. You both write great articles and seem to have the knowledge. Does JW go on the show ever ? Look forward to the answer. If not Robin anyone else know?

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#62 David S
August 16 2009, 10:13PM
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oilFan wrote:

Can I catch the show online ?

Dude - the link to Gregor's show is on the right ->

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#63 Archaeologuy
August 16 2009, 10:45PM
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I have news,

This just in: It is a terrible idea to start using a mandolin to slice Sweet Potatos and look up for a second...unless of course you dont really care about the tip of your thumb.

This message was much harder to type than i thought it would be.

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#64 Batman34
August 16 2009, 10:46PM
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Vish , Souray and Staios are not going to be the one who are traded to get you the top scorer.Gilbert or gerb will be likly traded to get those players.

Gilbert and Grebs are younger and cheaper then Vish ,Souray or staios .

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#65 bingofuel
August 16 2009, 10:53PM
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David S wrote:

Dude - the link to Gregor’s show is on the right ->

Quite often, I also remember to but the "Just a Game" link at the bottom of all of Robin's stories, as I did in this one.

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#66 oilFan
August 16 2009, 11:10PM
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Thanks guys. Sorry I use my crack berry don't know if it will work on the phone. I will try my labtop. Again Thanks

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#67 Gunner
August 16 2009, 11:22PM
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typol99 wrote:

indeed there gunner skull…No how exactly do i do that@ Gunner:

By not doing this. typol99 wrote:

LOL hoe lay fahk bud..thats helarious yeee hawwwww mo fo…@ Robin Brownlee:

@ Robin Brownlee: Huh?

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#68 Gunner
August 16 2009, 11:25PM
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Aaannyyyways..... Arch, how's that thumb holding up?

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#69 bingofuel
August 16 2009, 11:32PM
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@ Archaeologuy:

Ouch, really dude? You didn't bleed on a Nation t-shirt, did you?

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#70 Dallas
August 17 2009, 12:10AM
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Batman34 wrote:

Vish , Souray and Staios are not going to be the one who are traded to get you the top scorer.Gilbert or gerb will be likly traded to get those players. Gilbert and Grebs are younger and cheaper then Vish ,Souray or staios .

Your an idiot those are the guys you keep. If those are the guys teams want you sit back and wait for another option or until someone caves for the older guys you must be a clg fan cause that just defeats the purpose. You don't sacrifice the future for the present DUH

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#71 Rob
August 17 2009, 01:55AM
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It's what... 4 months or so since the Oil's season was officially over...about 2 months since the draft and 6 weeks into free-agency and we have seen Tambellini do exactly zip as far as anything of consequence. I'm not surprised that some fans are starting to lose hope that he has any clue what to do next. I'm willing to wait and see but his leadership of the Oil isn't looking too stellar at this point. This may be the reason he didn't get the bump to GM in Vancouver. Maybe people in high places took a read on him and they could see he didn't have what they wanted to be a dynamic or visionary GM. Big talk such as Tambo's season-ending speech should be backed up with action sooner or later. The Heatly blunder doen't count in my opinion.

As far as Messier coming back to the Oil, I don't think it would be a great idea. He is the last of the great Oiler players whose public image hasn't taken a bit of a public shot in the last few years. Returning Oiler vets haven't exactly distinguished themselves have they? Wouldn't it be a further embarassment for an organization that has already humiliated itself numerous times, to one day have to fire the 'Moose'...the ultimate Oiler?

Egads!

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#72 typol99
August 17 2009, 05:31AM
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@ Robin Brownlee: Robin Brownlee wrote:

@ typol99: Yes it is. I’m imagining a pasty-faced little twirp with a Kate Gosselin haircut, probably some heinous Arnie (acne) on his chin and thumb rings who speeds around town in a crappy little car delivering pizza for Panago while fantasizing he knows Wayne Gretzky. Add the Stanfields, and, yes, it’s damn funny.

LIsten u dumb fuc&. gimme ur fuc*n email so i can send u pics of me and the great one. I didnt say i know him i said i met him and i quoted him. And im not a kid u stupid bastar4D. Ill fuc*n piss pump u ya fuc*n fall down.. I garentee i no more stats, seen more games and played with more pro players than u could ever amagine u lil kronic masterbater. living with mom e in her basement.. Fuc* u, step up lil man ur nothin but a fucN nerd, typing from mommies lap.. eat shi^

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#73 DizzyD
August 17 2009, 06:11AM
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I thought the point of ON was to talk oiler talk...not a popularity contest...

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#74 DizzyD
August 17 2009, 06:11AM
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my dad can beat up your dad

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#75 Archaeologuy
August 17 2009, 07:25AM
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@ bingofuel: @ Gunner:

I cut the left tip of my right thumb clean off. Not the whole digit, just the finger-print part. It was gross. No Nation-Gear was damaged though, small miracle.

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#76 MattN
August 17 2009, 07:31AM
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Question for BingoFuel and the IT weinies.

Is it possible to program some kind of app into this webpage where we can culmulatively ban commenters?

Just a thumbs up/ thumbs down button that would shut down an IP address for a week or so after 50 thumbs down from seperate IP's.

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#77 Librarian Mike
August 17 2009, 07:34AM
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@ Archaeologuy:

Dude, I hope you're okay. Best wishes.

Also, this isn't part of your manifesto to recreate the 7 deadly sins, is it? (heh heh)

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#78 Robin Brownlee
August 17 2009, 07:45AM
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MattN wrote:

Question for BingoFuel and the IT weinies. Is it possible to program some kind of app into this webpage where we can culmulatively ban commenters? Just a thumbs up/ thumbs down button that would shut down an IP address for a week or so after 50 thumbs down from seperate IP’s.

A week or so? I'm guessing the wrath of Bingofuel and the weenies will extend well beyond that in the case of, ahem, Typol99. @ Archaeologuy: Sorry to hear about that. My vote is you get the first ceremonial thumbs-down in the pending send-off for our friend in the Stanfields. That, and I'll get you a Nation T-shirt signed by your favourite Oiler.

@ typol99: Adios.

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#79 bingofuel
August 17 2009, 07:57AM
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typol99 wrote:

LIsten u dumb fuc&. gimme ur fuc*n email so i can send u pics of me and the great one. I didnt say i know him i said i met him and i quoted him. And im not a kid u stupid bastar4D. Ill fuc*n piss pump u ya fuc*n fall down.. I garentee i no more stats, seen more games and played with more pro players than u could ever amagine u lil kronic masterbater. living with mom e in her basement.. Fuc* u, step up lil man ur nothin but a fucN nerd, typing from mommies lap.. eat shi^

On behalf of OilersNation writers and staff, I'd like to thank you, typol99, for providing a shining example of precisely how not to conduct yourself here. You've earned your way into the ON penalty box indefinitely.

The rest of you: these aren't the droids we're looking for. Move along. Move along.

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#80 BigE57
August 17 2009, 08:41AM
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@ Archaeologuy:

One question. Was alcohol a factor?

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#81 Archaeologuy
August 17 2009, 08:58AM
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@ Robin Brownlee:

Consider my heavily bandaged thumb down towards Dr. Typol Q. 99 My favourite Oiler is Hemsky

@ Librarian Mike:

No 7 deadly sin re-enactment, just making poor decisions around sharp objects. I'll be ok though, in a week or so all the bandages can go away and eventually things will grow back.

@ BigE57: I dont even have that excuse to fall back on. But this will make my new job as a video game tester a little more difficult.

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#82 Librarian Mike
August 17 2009, 09:05AM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

I dont even have that excuse to fall back on. But this will make my new job as a video game tester a little more difficult.

Looks like it's Wii Fit or DDR for you for the time being. I have a friend who did the same thing with a papercutter in Japan. It turned out okay after stitches, but she still has to endure 'Yakuza' jokes.

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#83 Chaz
August 17 2009, 09:10AM
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typol99 wrote:

LIsten u dumb fuc&. gimme ur fuc*n email so i can send u pics of me and the great one. I didnt say i know him i said i met him and i quoted him. And im not a kid u stupid bastar4D. Ill fuc*n piss pump u ya fuc*n fall down.. I garentee i no more stats, seen more games and played with more pro players than u could ever amagine u lil kronic masterbater. living with mom e in her basement.. Fuc* u, step up lil man ur nothin but a fucN nerd, typing from mommies lap.. eat shi^

How does the crazy guy who collects bottles in my alley afford a computer to post on ON?

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#84 BigE57
August 17 2009, 09:58AM
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@ Chaz: They give 10 cents out for beer and popcans nowadays.....Just cleaned out my garage

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#85 oil fan
August 17 2009, 10:02AM
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I never liked the idea of censoring the comments but I hve changed my mind thanks to Typol99. Ban this guy. He has nothing to say regarding the article and disses the guys whom write great reads/articles daily for us.

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#86 Fish
August 17 2009, 10:18AM
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He strikes me as being a touch slow.

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#87 Death Metal Nightmare
August 17 2009, 10:32AM
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Blair Betts is solid but hes not good enough in the dot overall or short handed for me to care. hes a solid 4th liner (who seemingly is a "third liner" in Oiler fans eyes), who will get in front of a puck or two on the PK. no thanks.

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#88 Quicksilver ballet
August 17 2009, 10:59AM
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typol99 wrote:

players that need to go………@ DangerMan: STAIOS SCHREMP pouliot moreau nilsson brule jacques PENNER nickerson

I'd add Gilbert or Grebeshkov to that list. If we could move out 2/3rd of that list we could add 2 forwards to our top six.

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#89 Colin
August 17 2009, 11:48AM
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@ bingofuel:

You made my day. Thanks.

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#90 Faceoff
August 17 2009, 11:55AM
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@ typol99: Typo you let down the entire provice of Manitoba and their school system.

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#91 Faceoff
August 17 2009, 12:01PM
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And I can't spell province. For shame.

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#92 MrOiler
August 17 2009, 12:10PM
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bingofuel wrote:

On behalf of OilersNation writers and staff, I’d like to thank you, typol99, for providing a shining example of precisely how not to conduct yourself here. You’ve earned your way into the ON penalty box indefinitely. The rest of you: these aren’t the droids we’re looking for. Move along. Move along.

Thank you.

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#93 PaperDesigner
August 17 2009, 12:26PM
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typol99 wrote:

@ Robin Brownlee: Robin Brownlee wrote: @ typol99: Yes it is. I’m imagining a pasty-faced little twirp with a Kate Gosselin haircut, probably some heinous Arnie (acne) on his chin and thumb rings who speeds around town in a crappy little car delivering pizza for Panago while fantasizing he knows Wayne Gretzky. Add the Stanfields, and, yes, it’s damn funny. LIsten u dumb fuc&. gimme ur fuc*n email so i can send u pics of me and the great one. I didnt say i know him i said i met him and i quoted him. And im not a kid u stupid bastar4D. Ill fuc*n piss pump u ya fuc*n fall down.. I garentee i no more stats, seen more games and played with more pro players than u could ever amagine u lil kronic masterbater. living with mom e in her basement.. Fuc* u, step up lil man ur nothin but a fucN nerd, typing from mommies lap.. eat shi^

Were you attempting to prove that you're an idiot? Because if that was the cause, you succeeded brilliantly.

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#94 Quicksilver ballet
August 17 2009, 12:38PM
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Tough crowd here today....maybe i should go put on my can.

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#95 Hemmertime
August 17 2009, 12:45PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

I dont even have that excuse to fall back on. But this will make my new job as a video game tester a little more difficult.

OMG. Even better job than me, although do you have to jump down every hole and walk around every maps outskirts? Oh so many questions!

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#96 Jonathan Willis
August 17 2009, 12:50PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

I’d add Gilbert or Grebeshkov to that list.

You think Gilbert and Grebeshkov have to go? Really?

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#97 Archaeologuy
August 17 2009, 12:57PM
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@ Hemmertime: I'm only in my 2nd week and i signed my life away in a privacy contract, but there are so many things to test you could end up doing any number of tasks from playing 1 level 18 times in a row to playing the entire game in a specific way, or just looking for new ways to break the game.

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#98 BigE57
August 17 2009, 12:57PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Quicksilver ballet wrote: I’d add Gilbert or Grebeshkov to that list. You think Gilbert and Grebeshkov have to go? Really?

That someone would want to dump one of Grebs or Gilbert is a bit disconserting both seems ridiculous. But I think the more concerning part of his statement is that the guy wants to move 7 out of 11 players (grebs and gilbert included) for 2 top six forwards, I'm not sure but I think that would leave a bit of a hole in the line-up like no fourth line and only 2 defensive pairings......

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#99 Racki
August 17 2009, 01:14PM
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Honestly, as much as I like Tom Gilbert, I'd like to see him moved. He's the least likely d-man of our crew to hit anyone, and we're butter soft as is. I really would have liked to have seen the Oil move him before July 1st (as in this past July 1st) and signed Boynton (who the Ducks got for a steal), but no such luck.

It would be nice though if they could move him for someone with some size, but in order for us to pick up a forward, I would have to say it would be a good idea to move one of our forwards as well. I don't think I can watch someone like Cogliano being wasted on a bottom six line again.

So that all said, what do we move a D-man for? I'd love to see someone get moved for picks, but is anyone ok with picking up salary out there?

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#100 Librarian Mike
August 17 2009, 01:27PM
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@ Archaeologuy:

I've heard that game testing is one where at first people think it's an awesome job, but the reality is that it's a real grind. Playing through a game: loads of fun! Playing through an unfinished game 100 times...not so much.

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