Oilers Hire Wayne Fleming As Assistant Coach

Jonathan Willis
August 25 2009 06:00PM

The Oilers have hired Wayne Fleming - last seen as the head coach of Avangard Omsk of the KHL (far right in the video above) - as an assistant to Pat Quinn.

Fleming, like virtually everyone who Steve Tambellini has hired since being named Oilers’ GM, has had extensive experience with Hockey Canada. Fleming served as the GM (and assistant coach) of Canada’s National Olympic Program from 1990-92. Under his watch, the Canadians won silver at the 1992 Olympics. The Canadian team featured (among others) former Dallas coach Dave Tippett, while current Oiler Nikolai Khabibulin was the third goaltender for the gold-medal winning Russians. Fleming also served as Team Canada’s head coach at the 2001 and 2002 World Championships (he coached Steve Staios at the latter event), and as an associate coach at the 2002 and 2006 Olympics and the 2004 World Cup of Hockey.

Outside of his work with Hockey Canada, Fleming’s had an incredibly diverse career as a coach. He spent nine seasons as head coach of the University of Manitoba Bisons (he was an assistant coach and player before that) before joining Hockey Canada, and during those nine seasons he won two championships. After his time with the Bisons and his first stint with Hockey Canada, Fleming took a job coaching Leksands in the Swedish Elite League, a position he held for four seasons. He also coached in Switzerland and Germany before taking a job as an assistant to Islanders head coach Rick Bowness in 1997-98. He lasted two seasons, and worked with three head coaches: Bowness, Mike Milbury, and Bill Stewart. Oilers’ defenseman Jason Strudwick played some games for the 1997-98 team.

During his time with the Islanders, Fleming was responsible for coaching the powerplay. Over his two seasons with the team, the Islanders ranked 10th and 13th in the NHL in PP%; in overall scoring they ranked 16th and 22nd. It seems safe to say that Fleming got the job done. Fleming’s time on the Island ended with the promotion of Stewart to head coach; Stewart’s first move was to move Fleming into scouting.

After two years, Fleming was hired as an assistant coach to Bob Francis in Phoenix (future Bruins’ coach Mike Sullivan was on the roster) then. He left the Coyotes to work for Hockey Canada, before returning to the NHL. His next job was in Philadelphia, where he spent three seasons as an assistant to Ken Hitchcock (Hitchcock had previously worked with Fleming at the 2002 Olympics). During the NHL lockout, Fleming considered a position in Switzerland, and his agent talked a little bit about why HC Bern wanted to hire him:

"Wayne is a kind of hockey god overseas. He spent a lot of time in Europe. He is considered a teacher over there, not a yeller. They really like people like him."

After resigning in Philadelphia, Fleming joined Jim Playfair’s staff in Calgary in time for the 2006-07 season, and worked for both Playfair and Mike Keenan. He resigned his position in Calgary to make the jump to the KHL after being recruited by Jaromir Jagr.

Last year, Fleming was the head coach for Avangard Omsk, and things went badly. Rangers prospect Alexei Cherepanov died in October because of a heart condition, and ex-NHL’er John Grahame was released by the club because of alleged off-ice issues (Grahame denies the team’s allegations). In early January, Fleming was fired mid-game, but then asked to return; he stayed on until the end of the month before resigning.

All things considered, I’m a fan of this move: from everything I’ve read, Fleming brings in experience on special teams, he’s done a ton of video work (and with the Oilers video coach being shown the door, it’s a good bet he’ll be doing it again) and he’s worked extensively with younger players.  It's also worth noting that Fleming's departure from Phoenix, Philadelphia and Calgary was on his own terms - he wasn't fired but instead chose to move on.  He’ll be a nice addition to an already loaded coaching staff.

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Jonathan Willis is Managing Editor of the Nation Network. He also currently writes for the Edmonton Journal's Cult of Hockey, Grantland, and Hockey Prospectus. His work has appeared at theScore, ESPN and Puck Daddy. He was previously founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue. Contact him at jonathan (dot) willis (at) live (dot) ca.
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#51 quicksilver ballet
August 25 2009, 10:38PM
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Bob Stauffer wrote:

First off you guys might be surprised by the quality of candidates that expressed interest in the Oilers Assistant Coach position. THE FACT THAT YOU DIDN'T MENTION ANY NAMES LEAVES US TO BELIEVE THERE'S NOBODY. Fleming is a suitable sort for this type of job, and is a good fit. DOUBT IT, WAYNE NEVER SEEMS TO STAY IN ONE PLACE VERY LONG Kelly Buchberger meanwhile is getting the mentoring experience of a lifetime. FIRE BUCHBERGER, HE WAS A LOUSY AHL COACH AND HISTORY WILL REPEAT ITSELF AT THE NHL LEVEL As an aside. No disrespect to Mr. Willis, but five JW stories on the front page of ON is at least three and probably four too many. NOBODY ELSE IS WRITING ANYTHING, WHAT IS HE SUPPOSE TO DO..LET THE SITE GO STALE, GUESS ITS EASY TO JUST CRITISIZE FROM YOUR PERCH. Around July 1st there was some quality breking-coverage type stories getting done on ON. NONE FROM A B STAUFFER I NOTICED. Given that JW has his own site do we really need all five lead stories on the ON site coming from someone who has no direct access to anybody that matters in hockey circles? Combine that with the fact that Jon resides in Mortheastern B.C., it can be argued he doesn’t really have a pulse for what is happening in Edmonton either. I can see getting Jon’s take once a week…but in this case I think less might be more. Take Care Bob Stauffer
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#52 Travis Dakin
August 25 2009, 10:40PM
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@ Bob Stauffer: I'll take these statements as a wish for the other guys to post more too but in a long summer with a whole lot of nothing going on, as one of the oldest readers of the site, I am very happy with the frequency and quality of posts that JW contributes. I look forward to 4 or 5 different articles again in the coming months but for now, JW is offering a perspective and a way of looking at the game that I have surprisingly never really looked at before. Not to kiss ass too much Jon but don't stop. I like the hockey fan I am becoming because of the info you are providing.

As for you Bob, feel free to contribute more often on here too. I've always enjoyed it when yourself or Dan Tencer make a post or two. That's why this site is so great.

And while I am ass kissing, Brownlee you are a God among men , Greggor is awesome, Wanye Gretz, you sir are the hotness and Bingofuel, well, you complete me.

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#53 oilitsinyoutogive
August 25 2009, 10:42PM
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yea i gotta say there was no reason for him to come on ON and bash the person who is putting fresh content up. Regardless of the reasons, he is the only one posting at least he is not just letting the site sit. New content every day means people check the site every day

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#54 oilguyry
August 25 2009, 10:51PM
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I kind of agree with Bob on this one I find the constant stat breakdown boring but at least we get something to read it can't all be quality this late in the summer

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#55 jeanshorts
August 25 2009, 11:07PM
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If this isn't a sign of J.Willis blowing up worldwide, then I don't know what is. I can't wait until this beef escalates into a full on Oilersnation, Oilers.com turf war!

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#56 analbumcover
August 25 2009, 11:08PM
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I for one enjoy reading JW's stuff (both on his site & here). Lowetide and JW heve turned into a daily read for me.

With regard to Stauffer's comment, although I do agree that there's often a lot of JW articles, I would have worded it a little differently. I'd prefer to see more articles from other writers as opposed to less from JW. As far as not being "connected to the pulse", I think if that were a prerequisite for writing on the Oil, there'd only be a handful of people doing it. Besides, speculation and statistical analysis is all that some of us hardcore fans have this time of year.

Finally, not to sound like too much of a brown-noser, I think Brownlee has done a great job in getting his name out there over the past couple of years. I thoroughly enjoy reading his articles & listening to him on 1260.

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#57 Grant
August 25 2009, 11:09PM
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Wow, drinking maybe tonight Bob? Slamming an amateur (is he anymore?) blogger for putting in too much work and almost singlehandedly generating content for a website throughout off-season? Jealous of what's getting built here and that you're left out?

How many hours of radio did you generate off a five word text message? Although JW doesn't have your status, I'd be shocked if you somehow came up with a quarter of the content on your radio show that he manages to fill us in on between this site and his.

When you were starting out did you ever have to deal with an old experienced peer who tried to treat you like a junior even though you had twice the talent he did? That's what I see happening here - it looks like you're feeling a bit insecure and threatened by the young pup. Stick to radio and let Willis stick to blogging. He doesn't come on your show does he?

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#58 Ogden Brother
August 25 2009, 11:12PM
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Bob Stauffer wrote:

First off you guys might be surprised by the quality of candidates that expressed interest in the Oilers Assistant Coach position. Fleming is a suitable sort for this type of job, and is a good fit. Kelly Buchberger meanwhile is getting the mentoring experience of a lifetime. As an aside. No disrespect to Mr. Willis, but five JW stories on the front page of ON is at least three and probably four too many. Around July 1st there was some quality breking-coverage type stories getting done on ON. Given that JW has his own site do we really need all five lead stories on the ON site coming from someone who has no direct access to anybody that matters in hockey circles? Combine that with the fact that Jon resides in Mortheastern B.C., it can be argued he doesn’t really have a pulse for what is happening in Edmonton either. I can see getting Jon’s take once a week…but in this case I think less might be more. Take Care Bob Stauffer

Wow

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#59 Gerald R. Ford
August 25 2009, 11:25PM
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Is that really Stauffer? Wow, indeed. That's sort of... unnecessary, isn't it?

"WILLIS ISN'T GOING ANYWHERE."

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#60 Colin
August 25 2009, 11:28PM
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One more vote for JW.

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#61 zig
August 25 2009, 11:33PM
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...these comments are more entertaining than the news story!

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#62 Rogue
August 25 2009, 11:36PM
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Gee, Bobby,why don't you fill us in on all the exciting Oiler player signings and give us the inside rumours you must know.Or maybe we could talk about the new line combos with our new tough forwards but wait,.....oh we have none of those yet, sorry,its only been 9 months since we knew of these issues, but I digress,there is nothing ELSE to talk about.Or tell me why the Oil did not talk to Heatley BEFORE they made a deal with Ottawa, knowing that they were not on his list of teams? Or who leaked the trade? Come on, keep this Oiler train rolling,at least backwards. Thank god for Jonathan and RB, no matter what they write. The "Summer of Our Discontent" continues....

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#63 Jonathan Willis
August 26 2009, 12:40AM
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To everybody:

Thanks a lot for the defense. I really do appreciate it.

Bob Stauffer:

Given that OilersNation is one of the fastest growing websites in Canada, I'm sure you can appreciate the need for daily content. I provide that.

As far as access goes, was anything in my piece inaccurate? For that matter, in terms of depth of coverage, how did it compare to Jim Matheson's Journal piece? That's not a shot at Matheson, who obviously has much less space in print format and less freedom than I enjoy here, but a simple observation that sometimes you don't need to know the owner to run up the resume of the new assistant coach.

If you'd like to petition the good men who run the site to cut back the number of articles I write, go ahead. The address is wanyegretz@gmail.com. But then again, I'm sure they prefer having ten new articles over the past five days to the two they would have had without me.

Incidentally, if you have any specific complaints about the stuff I write, my email is jonathan.willis@live.ca. I'd be more than welcome to hearing any criticisms you might have - I'm not so arrogant as to think what I do couldn't be improved.

Anyways, enough about me: since you're here, have you heard anything interesting about the hiring? Will Fleming be running special teams and doing video work, as I've surmised?

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#64 Jonathan Willis
August 26 2009, 12:54AM
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Bob Stauffer wrote:

Given that JW has his own site do we really need all five lead stories on the ON site coming from someone who has no direct access to anybody that matters in hockey circles?

Oh, and one more point: there was a time this was true, but it's becoming increasingly less so all of the time. It's been a surprising, albeit not unwelcome, development.

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#65 A.T. Husky
August 26 2009, 01:03AM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

Listen up, smart guy. You’re going to come on here and take a dickish shot at me over something Stauffer wrote? For your information, assuming you’re interested in the facts, me not writing every day for ON has nothing to do with my willingness to dig up stories. Under my agreement with ON, I can only write 10 items a month. That’s what the website can afford right now. I have reached that limit for August. I’d happily write more and as the website grows I hope that’ll be the case. Willis has a different agreement and I’m not going to talk about it here. It’s not my business or yours. As for your as*hole remark about me not being employed, I write for Canadian Press and Metro Edmonton and co-host Just A Game with Jason Gregor on Thursdays on top of posting here. I’m working four different gigs, so don’t bring your weak sh*t around here.

Brownlee is my hero.

Bob Stauffer wrote:

First off you guys might be surprised by the quality of candidates that expressed interest in the Oilers Assistant Coach position. Fleming is a suitable sort for this type of job, and is a good fit. Kelly Buchberger meanwhile is getting the mentoring experience of a lifetime. As an aside. No disrespect to Mr. Willis, but five JW stories on the front page of ON is at least three and probably four too many. Around July 1st there was some quality breking-coverage type stories getting done on ON. Given that JW has his own site do we really need all five lead stories on the ON site coming from someone who has no direct access to anybody that matters in hockey circles? Combine that with the fact that Jon resides in Mortheastern B.C., it can be argued he doesn’t really have a pulse for what is happening in Edmonton either. I can see getting Jon’s take once a week…but in this case I think less might be more. Take Care Bob Stauffer

I'm sorry, but your post sounds rehearsed, Mr. Stauffer. You're saying, that Willis works too hard and lives too far to be taken seriously? Do you even understand the premise of online content by making such a suggestion?

Ever heard of an "ad hominem," Mr. Stauffer? I realize that English class must have been a million years ago or something for you but a simple Google search will suffice for such a common term.

By suggesting that since Willis isn't in Edmonton that he's without a pulse, but then backtracking into a fit of apologetics by saying that his opinion should be reduced in degrees, is shameful flip-flopping. Is his opinion important, or not? It's pretty much a black and white kind of question, and the answer "kind of important, but only in moderation" is a B.S. response. Who he knows, what he does, or how often he does it, frankly means jack sh*t.

Guys like Tencer. Brownlee and Matheson have the important task of taking important information and translating it back to the Oilers fans in a professional, objective manner. Willis has strived to write in much the same way though his style relies more heavily on hockey stats.

What's the point of having an independent website if it doesn't provide objective, frequently-updated content? A direct connection to the Oiler administration would only pervert that objectivity, not improve it. What you're suggesting is that we march in step and believe, as you want us to believe, that the Oilers website provides great Oiler content, which is hogwash. I don't consider Jen Sharpe's trivial writing or "Fishing with Zack" to be great Oiler content.

Direct access to the Oiler kingdom only guarantees increased exposure of the media content, but not increased quality. If sports media was a meritocracy then I don't doubt it would be the bloggers nods of approval, not puppets like you, Mr. Stauffer.

The Oilers Nation has voted, and you are off the island, Mr. Stauffer.

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#66 Kieso
August 26 2009, 01:10AM
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Long time reader - not much of a poster. Maybe add some content yourself smart guy. I like your show but that last comment about JW was uncalled for and arrogant and basically stupid.

Maybe you are looking for part-time work and implying you want to write on this site.

Ok he might not have a backstage pass but he never claimed to have one so his comments are opinions.

I guess I should just hang out at oilers.com to see what objective articles you brains have decided to indoctrinate oiler fans with today. Should be a great read about the all Stortini website.

Oh look Bryan Adams is coming to town the Oilers website says. Maybe if we are really lucky the Oilers will drop a big headline like - Bryan Adams - Signed and ready for the season - meet the Oilers new checking centre after the concert.

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#67 A.T. Husky
August 26 2009, 01:10AM
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Apologies to Jen Sharpe, she summed up my point very nicely in a recent blog post of hers:

Jen Sharpe wrote:

1 - Oilers fans are everywhere. EVERYWHERE. Including here, and over there. And probably under your stairs. As I’ve stated on 1,126 previous occasions, I spent four seasons with the AHL’s Manitoba Moose prior to joining the Oilers. The Moose are a successful team and they are an NHL-caliber club on multiple levels; as such, they have a lot of fans. But my experience in Moose-land left me dangerously unprepared for Oil Country. First of all, it’s called Oil COUNTRY, and I’m assuming that’s because there are enough Oilers fans to populate and sustain a small- to medium-sized nation. I see you – and your matching Oilers logos – everywhere: at the car wash, crossing the street, on the news, installing cable in my apartment, playing the role of “Groom” in my best friend’s wedding. It’s quite overwhelming – in a good way. I certainly don’t have to explain or justify my job to anyone while immersed in Oil Country. You immediately know what I’m talking about, and you often know the subject better than I do, which makes me a bit nervous but I’m trying to get over that. Keep up the good work, at any rate.

Proximity and pre-existing Oiler knowledge, it would appear, aren't even prerequisites for an Oiler website job.

"Who woulda thunk it, eh?"

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#68 jeanshorts
August 26 2009, 01:13AM
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@ A.T. Husky:

Alright, who the hell invited the guy with all the proper grammar and easy to understand points?

U tlk 2 guud!

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#69 A.T. Husky
August 26 2009, 01:23AM
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Hey, you guys!

-Sloth

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#70 vern
August 26 2009, 01:26AM
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*must fight sudden urge to do the truffle shuffle

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#71 Nate is Great
August 26 2009, 01:32AM
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@ Bob Stauffer:

that strange snipe sounds like the death rattle from a bloated, high-horse gas-bag struggling to maintain relevance in a shifting world. access? pffft. location? meh. but some leagues get it: hxxp://mashable.com/2009/08/25/st-johns-press/

for all your bluster about access, fat lot of good it does fans. you MSM are just puppets of the hockey clubs. say the wrong thing and you're done. what good are you to fans like me who want insider access if you never actually tell us anything, but claim you can't say anything because you'll burn your sources?

thanks for nothing. nate.

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#72 humantorch
August 26 2009, 02:44AM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

To everybody: Thanks a lot for the defense. I really do appreciate it.

JW, Stauffer's shot at you was immature, unprofessional, rude, and completely uncalled for. You've responded with grace and professionalism, and I doff my hat to you, sir.

@Stauffer

If you have a problem with the type of content being posted on ON, the best thing you can do is offer to hep out and provide content of your own for it. I'm sure bingofuel and Wanye would be happy to have another connected writer on board.

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#73 Hemmertime
August 26 2009, 02:53AM
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@ Bob Stauffer:

Dont click Willis' article then. Simple

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#74 Wanye Gretz
August 26 2009, 03:26AM
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Bob Stauffer wrote:

Where is Brownlee, Gregor, and Wayne Gretz?

Oh I believe you will be hearing from me first thing in the morning on this matter.

Love, Wanye

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#75 Dallas
August 26 2009, 04:25AM
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@ Wanye Gretz: Hahaha let em have it wanye I myself and many others visit this site ritually and I don't care who writes or where they are from or if they are connected inside to the oil. I just like to have something new and interesting to read and post on. So to all of you at ON and especially JW for his hard work. Keep up the great work. Thanks

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#76 Hemmer
August 26 2009, 04:28AM
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Stauffer is working for CHED now so his words are always in best interest of the Oilers Organization. Bob, don't take your frustration on this website just because you aren't allowed to voice your true opinions.

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#77 99thoilerfan
August 26 2009, 05:03AM
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Wanye Gretz wrote:

Bob Stauffer wrote: Where is Brownlee, Gregor, and Wayne Gretz? Oh I believe you will be hearing from me first thing in the morning on this matter. Love, Wanye

Good Morning! Hey Wanye! Up and at them!!

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#78 Death Metal Nightmare
August 26 2009, 05:06AM
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hahah i love it. when the Oilers suck and the news is slow everyone starts biting each other in the ass. fishbowl typified, and it reeks like sh#&.

some of you people (Bob included) need to live outside of Edmonton/Oilers hockey for a while to see how lucky you have it in terms of media coverage, intimacy, and interest (sending Gregor to the draft just on donations is a great example of this - plus money to the Stollery. based solely on fan initiative). go live in any similar size market in the US for any other sport (where the Ivory Towers are way harder to climb or even peak into) and try to get this kind of interaction between the fans and the media. try to call a station and talk for more than 10 seconds before being cut off by the Robot Jockey running through his script of cheesy 1st grade level questions to get callers.

as much as Stauffer's comments were a Christmas Story 'Scut Farkas' punch to the shoulder, its still quality that everyone in the "Oilers neighborhood" comes out to stir the pot. and he might have a slight point. some of the stat based articles could be delayed a little with a little more categorical depth. but the articles and dialog is much appreciated in the off-season.

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#79 quicksilver ballet
August 26 2009, 06:06AM
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Maybe we should go easy on Mr.Stauffer.. he may still be recovering from having his spine radically removed last year.

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#80 Bob Stauffer (Or is he???)
August 26 2009, 06:16AM
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Testing the username.

Is there any sort of system in place that insures that when someone wirtes under the name "Bob Stauffer" it really is Bob Stauffer?

IF this shows up, I'm going to guess there isn't and 'Bob Stauffe's comments are a troll job.

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#81 Fiveandagame
August 26 2009, 06:58AM
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Wow, Stauffer vs Willis. It was like the MacT presser where he called out Shremp in an uncalled for 'dick' move... All that did was further galvanize the publics growing dislike for MacT and increase their desire for Shremp to get his shot.

Soooo, The way I see this playing out is Stauffer gets fired by the end of the season and Willis gets a press pass!

JW - best thing about your posts, is you're always open to discussion and will always politely argue with those who don't share the same view. Professional, respectful and prolific. Well, done, keep up the good work and let the Trolls rot under their bridge.

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#82 Clarkenstein
August 26 2009, 07:19AM
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Bob wrote:

Clarkenstein wrote: How many candidates said “no thanks” to the Oil offer before they got somebody to say “….mmmm…. well…ok… I guess so…” When somebody gets hired this late in the summer, just before camp, I would have to assume that their first ten choices said “… I don’t think I want to work for Kevin Lowe..” I think you totally misunderstand how rare these opportunities are. There are bout 1/5 as many coaches in the NHL as players. You simply don’t turn down an opportunity when offered unless you are garanteed another position elsewhere. There are very very few people that would turn this down. This hiring was largely Quinn, Tambi, and Renny taking the time to consider people, make a list, do interviews and then make the decision. Given that this is an assistant coach, it is normal for the coach to have a lot of say in the hiring. Tough to do when Quinn only got here 2 months ago. Really, it was a silly comment.

You missed the point I guess Bob... I was mocking the situation the team seems to be in with players...and, maybe it could be the same situation with coaches. Sorry... next time I'll spell it out a bit clearer for you.

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#83 Clarkenstein
August 26 2009, 07:20AM
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Tommy wrote:

I haven’t been around as much in the summer. Is Clarkenstein the new troll?

See above comment to Bob!!

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#84 Jonathan Willis
August 26 2009, 07:43AM
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@ Bob Stauffer (Or is he???):

We can review the email address submitted on a comment; if it doesn't match up than something's afoot.

But a good thought, all the same.

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#85 A.T. Husky
August 26 2009, 07:45AM
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Bob Stauffer wrote:

Testing the username. Is there any sort of system in place that insures that when someone wirtes under the name “Bob Stauffer” it really is Bob Stauffer? IF this shows up, I’m going to guess there isn’t and ‘Bob Stauffe’s comments are a troll job.

There's no system preventing someone to post a second time as Bob, but each post is tracked by email and ip address of poster, I believe.

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#86 Reagan
August 26 2009, 07:59AM
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Yes, there is a little haste here this morning. Wow, the all star cast of bloggers have all come. Wait Dan Tencer, still has to show up...?

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#87 jayoilfan
August 26 2009, 08:04AM
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This is so cool, the media types going at it while the rabble (me and the ON readers) join in.

This is what I love about this website, everyone can pitch in their two cents. Generally it all good stuff. Bob has some good points and all and we as fans should comment on stuff like he mentioned. I too am wondering about the other writers.

RB, it is interesting to know you have a limit to your articles, I had no idea about agreements and such like that. I love to read your articles and look for them everytime and I find myself a little dissappointed when something new is not available.

JW's articles are always top notch even though sometimes the numbers are beyond me (if I read and re-read them it slowly makes sense), they provide a way of looking at the Oilers I really did not contemplate before (like the Potulny vs schremp vs brule article).

Keep up the good work Wanye and Bingofuel!

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#88 BUCK75
August 26 2009, 08:05AM
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Hemmer wrote:

Stauffer is working for CHED now so his words are always in best interest of the Oilers Organization. Bob, don’t take your frustration on this website just because you aren’t allowed to voice your true opinions.

Not to be Mr. Picky Pants here, but Stauffer works for the hockey club. The hockey club has it's games on Ched so of course he is going to appear on CHED frequently with "inside" info.

Bob Stauffer wrote:

Is there any sort of system in place that insures that when someone wirtes under the name “Bob Stauffer” it really is Bob Stauffer?

This has happened a few times during last season as well. The admin's know who is who by the email address you include with your post. Unless you want to have to log in every time you post - it is a quirk we will live with (unless an upgrade is included in ON 3.0 Wanye has been teasing us with).

Seeing how his comments are still posted I have to assume the first comments of Stauffers are legit. Too bad, while I agree with you on some of your points of content, Brownlee & Willis have provided explantions of the reasons.

It does seem like you are taking a pot shot @ Willis. I don't know why you would, OilersNation provides the fans (which are VERY important to the hockey club) a free, mostly unmoderated forum to post their thoughts. As other posters have mentioned before don't read the articles if you don't want to.

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#89 Poo Czar
August 26 2009, 08:19AM
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I haven't checked yet, but I'm assuming Stauffer stopped by Lowetide's site to call him an @sshole...

Gregor is on his previously announced holiday, Brownlee is over the legal limit, Gretz is still recovering from his gender reassignment surgery, and Willis is covering for all of them.

I dunno Bob, but doesn't writing articles that consistently generate hundreds of daily comments clearly justify Willis and validate his articles? Good Lord, if it wasn't for my man Willis here, I'd probably have to work.

That and he's adorable!

LEAVE JONNY WILLIS ALONE!!! *sob*

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#90 rubbertrout
August 26 2009, 08:29AM
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It strikes me as odd that someone would take a shot at JW for doing his job. He writes intelligent, well thought out posts and also manages not to mangle the English language unlike several of the commenters(need a grammar checker there Bob?) If nobody else is writing then why shouldn't JW? Admittedly I'd love to see more stuff from Brownlee, Bingofuel and Wayner but there are obviously reasons for this.

In a perfect world we could trade Penner for a bag of pucks and an offensive draw and then use the cap space to sign Malhotra and someone for the 4th line. Maybe Stuaffer can use his inside info to tell us how.

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#91 Milli
August 26 2009, 08:45AM
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Bob, you are an IDIOT. Does ON tell you how often to be on the radio? Do the Oilers not want BC fans? I don't know, I'm in BC, still love the Oil, is that a problem for you? JW, although I am not a bigtime numbers guy. I love seeing new articles and I read ech and eveyone of them. Please keep it up. Bob, why not add something positive to the conversation? Or are the Oil execs really worried about how many articles JW posts?

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#92 Librarian Mike
August 26 2009, 08:48AM
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Thank you, Mr. Stauffer, for rubbing our faces in how much more connected you are than anyone else. What you did was the equivalent of driving by in your limo and yelling at the guy in his Yugo to 'get a job'.

While I agree that it would be nice to have some more variety on this site, it doesn't make what you said any less of a dick move.

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#93 Ender the Dragon
August 26 2009, 08:56AM
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Although I like it when Tencer and Stauffer visit, I have to say I'd rather get my Oilers information from JW than either of them. I don't know how you can argue the guy isn't plugged in; I can't remember ever calling JW on a mistake. Rare difference of opinion, perhaps, but to catch JW just plain wrong? That's craziness. Add the depth of his submissions and I'll read them two-a-day every day. Thanks for visiting, Bob, but keep your opinions to the Oilers and away from the ON structure.

In a way related, though, we miss your posts Wanye. Yeah, we get that they're not always chock-full of news-breaking goodness, but that's not why we read you. Give us our fix, man. :-)

And RB, I respect your work a lot, sir, but you need to relax more. You're getting downright cranky lately. Yes, some trolls throw some undeserved mud and wise-ass remarks but that comes with being a celebrity. You have to let it go. Besides, you yelled at me the other day for an innocent remark that wasn't even about you; taking on all that stress can't be good for you. We just want you to be happy so your material will match Wanye's for humour. There's no happiness to be found taking shots at trolls.

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#94 bingofuel
August 26 2009, 08:59AM
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@ Bob Stauffer (Or is he???):

The real Bob Stauffer's comments are legit. IP and email all check out. You are clearly posting from a different IP using a different email address.

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#95 Racki
August 26 2009, 09:03AM
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Bear in mind that this could easily be someone faking they are Bob Stauffer. So before we all grab our pitchfork and torches and head over to his house, let's keep that in mind. I don't see any reason why the real Bob would make those comments to JW.

That all said, maybe we should still go take a round out of Bob just to be on the safe side. :P

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#96 Travis Dakin
August 26 2009, 09:05AM
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@ Racki: haha oops.

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#97 niinimaa44
August 26 2009, 09:05AM
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A note for you Bob Stauffer: I have seen you on the Oilers PPV telecasts and every time you give an interview you come off as angry, petulant, irritated and annoyed. I just thought maybe it was a freak coincidence, but after reading your comments about JW my initial opinion of you is dead on. First off, anger management would help. Second, quit it with the negativity dude because it is very unattractive and smacks of sounding vindictive. If JW wants to express his Oiler views he's allowed and by the way I enjoy them very much (even if JW's extensive stats do cause too much confusion and make hockey seem more confusing than need be). Lastly, I would love to be in your position as an individual covering hockey for a living. Be grateful for the career you have, smile a lot, be thankful and cut out the attitude. People will like you a whole lot more for it.

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#98 Jonathan Willis
August 26 2009, 09:09AM
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Ender the Dragon wrote:

I can’t remember ever calling JW on a mistake. Rare difference of opinion, perhaps, but to catch JW just plain wrong? That’s craziness.

Well, actually...

I've made a couple of factual erros in the past, but nothing (so far as I know) in the past year. I made one especially glaring mistake on here when I first started, and it made me take fact-checking to heart.

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#99 danjo1
August 26 2009, 09:16AM
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@Bob Stauffer: Jonathan Willis wrote:

But a simple observation that sometimes you don’t need to know the owner to run up the resume of the new assistant coach.

ZING!

Gerald R. Ford wrote:

“WILLIS ISN’T GOING ANYWHERE.”

LOL I'm waiting to see that on Wanye's twitter.

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#100 DK0
August 26 2009, 09:28AM
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danjo1 wrote:

LOL I’m waiting to see that on Wanye’s twitter.

Wanye posted at 3:26 am, that man is going to be comatose for another 5 hours at least :)

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