Pat Quinn Post-Game Comments

Jonathan Willis
September 16 2009 11:54PM

Quinn

The following is a transcript of Pat Quinn's comments to the media following the Oilers 3-2 preseason win over the New York Islanders.  Audio is available at the Oilers' official site.

Quinn: Early they came out with some vim and vigour, they jumped everything – according to Mike Sillinger, that’s the way they play. We weren’t expecting it, I don’t think; they challenged the passes and the puck everywhere. Early on, we get a rush and out player turns it over and that sets the tone for the next ten minutes or so, and it’s a bad thing. The ebb, flow, whatever you want to call it, it suddenly comes the other way and now you’ve got to get a hold of yourself again and for the first ten minutes – until they started taking penalties – we were under a lot of pressure and not ready for it.

Reporter: Is there much you’re not seeing out of Jordan Eberle that makes you believe he’s not ready to be an NHL’er?

Quinn: That’s the first game. We’ve been watching practice; I know Jordan has a lot of skill, and on a night like that when the whole group seemed to be surprised by what was going on and the aggressive pursuit of the puck by the Islander group, you get away from that early teamwork that we felt good about in our practices. We weren’t supporting the puck early, it was very individual and then we started guessing with the puck – and none of those things work. We finally, after the first period, seemed to get a little bit of a change in how we were playing and got ourselves some chances. Early on, especially on the power-plays we had a couple of ones that you thought were going to be in the net; we didn’t bear down well enough and they made a couple of good saves. It probably should have been 2 or 3-1 after the penalties since they scored the first one, 2 or 3-1 in our favour, but that’s what sports is; it wasn’t in our favour and we had to scramble.

Reporter: We’d love to have a mic on the bench and hear some of the things that you’re espousing to the players. Sam said he heard some things back there that “ok, yeah”, and Sheldon said the same thing, that you’re keeping them honest.

Quinn: It is early, and you tend to think that you’re going to get perfection right away. It doesn’t happen, and sometimes you may be impatient for that perfection. I’ve been experienced and around long enough to know that it’s ebb and flow. Early on, I just want to try to nip bad habits that are there and see if we can get them changed. Habits aren’t easy, as you all know, some of you smoke for crying out loud, I can smell it from here.

Reporter: (laughs) You’re missing it?

Quinn: (laughs) I am, as a matter of fact. Habits are tough to break.

Reporter: Two panes of glass from one player is pretty rare, right?

Quinn: I would rather see it break the net than break the glass. Well, not really; we know he can fire that thing with such great velocity and he’s got a tremendous shot, it’s his bread and butter for a lot of years. I’m sure the Rexall building people are starting to say ‘maybe we should get a penalty on him’ or something, you know…

Reporter: Send him the bill?

Quinn: Well…

Reporter: His legend’s growing now, with the shot.

Quinn: It’s funny what we cheer now a days, we cheer broken glass.

The only comment I'll make is this: I wonder if Quinn ever tried that hypnotist...

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, Sportsnet, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#1 Jonathan Willis
September 17 2009, 12:23AM
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Okay, one more comment: that "bad habits" remark had to be aimed at the Gagner line. Either that or Trukhno, but we all know he's going to the AHL.

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#2 Gerald R. Ford
September 17 2009, 02:39AM
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I was listening to it on the radio, and I laughed at the smoking line. It's so awesome to have some truly monumental Old Man Power leading the Nation. Respect The Mighty Quinn, or else.

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#3 Reagan
September 17 2009, 06:42AM
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Funny how Oilers Nation is hit by Spammers...

The Oilers sure dogged it in the first 20 mins. I'm kinda surprised that the NYI could only score one goal in the first.

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#4 B-rad
September 17 2009, 07:12AM
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Steve Macintyre needs to start moving his head from side to side. He takes a lot of punches before he gets mad.

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#5 rainonyourparade
September 17 2009, 07:15AM
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This is like the professor who lectures from the textbook. We all have access to the Oilers website you know.

Why not watch the game and then gives us some player analysis? How did Nilsson do?

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#6 jdrevenge
September 17 2009, 07:23AM
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@ rainonyourparade:

Hey Rain on your parade... Why dont you watch the game and make that up for yourself? Its also on the Oilers website.

Love that I'm going to learn a tonne about hockey this year. Quinn is like the encyclopedia bri-hockey-ttania.

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#7 jdrevenge
September 17 2009, 07:25AM
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@ Jonathan Willis:

About Trukhno... did he move up to Gagners line during the game or did he start there? Phillips was making a comment that he felt he was a player... maybe Quinn sees something as well.

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#8 jayoilfan
September 17 2009, 07:35AM
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Watching the game on line was pretty cool. I got to see the second period and most of the third. A bit choppy at times and it disconnected me once but it was pretty cool anyways.

I thought JDD and DD played very well.

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#9 Racki
September 17 2009, 07:43AM
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Trukhno looked good to me. Twice he stripped the puck from Tavares, once in a dangerous area around our goal line. He seemed to be pretty decent in his own zone and even got PK time.

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#10 Lofty
September 17 2009, 07:59AM
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Lawson for the Islanders looked good... Calgary boy I think? hell of a save on Hemmer

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#11 scorecoff hemmercules
September 17 2009, 08:05AM
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I seen a few things in the first two periods last night that worry me:

1. We had a slow start and they were all over us for the first bit. We did this every game last year and often had to climb out of a hole early in the game. Are we not capable of coming out hard and fast?

2. Our plan on the PP is still "Everybody get it to Souray" (We actually got away with it more often than not but good teams won't let it happen so easily.)

3. Souray still can't hit the net to save his life. No wonder no one on this team will stand in front of the opposition net.

4. On a few break outs we got to the red line and then back tracked until we were behind our own net under pressure.

I know it's only pre season but our mistakes from last season seem to still be there. This team needs to work extremely hard or its heart break again this spring.

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#12 scorecoff hemmercules
September 17 2009, 08:09AM
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The opening video with Quinn was pretty sweet though, gave me chills. Eberle and Penner were looking pretty good out there too. Nice to know that if we lose either Gagner or Cogs after this season, Eberle will replace one of them nicely.

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#13 jeff
September 17 2009, 08:19AM
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@ scorecoff hemmercules: Smyth would, but sadly Smyth would probably be 6 feet under if he played with Souray.

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#14 jeff
September 17 2009, 08:21AM
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I posted this in the other thread. I will be very curious to see what Brule can do on the draw and if Pouilot can keep those numbers up. And WTF is with Cogs, did he ever get better then 40% last year?

Faceoff stats

Cogliano 6-11 55% Penner 1-3 33% Pouilot 9-15 60% Gagner 6-17 35%

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#15 jeff
September 17 2009, 08:28AM
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Okay I was kinda pissed to see Souray get 25 minutes. The complaint last year was he played too much and that he needed a break. I figured now would be the time to see what someone else does with more minutes, after all losing a preseason game means nothing.

I have to retract that statement as I now see Smid had 28 minutes and Motin had 20. What's with the stats at the Oil website only 15 skaters?

http://oilers.nhl.com/club/boxscore.htm?id=2009010013#bx-skater-stats

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#16 billmad
September 17 2009, 08:49AM
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jayoilfan wrote:

I thought JDD and DD played very well.

Agreed. JDD especially. Looks very comfortable in there. And I'm very pleased to see that, in case the Wall decides to take a few games off in the new contract.

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#17 Harlie
September 17 2009, 08:49AM
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@ scorecoff hemmercules:

Souray was tied for the most goals on the Team last year. Your comment about him missing the net is off the mark. It's pre-futtin-season dude. Of course his aim will be off. And he was leaning into those bombs hardcore to show everyone that he is back and he means business. Never mind pottin the winner on a non-slapshot. Pick on someone else. Souray's not the goat here.

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#18 Harlie
September 17 2009, 08:51AM
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@ jeff:

I didn't hear too much negative press on Souray getting too many minutes last year. It was Horcoff who in the off-season said that his extra minutes affected his game negatively. 1-2 Defenseman like Souray always log 20+ per night.

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#19 Bob Loblaw
September 17 2009, 08:51AM
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I'm very excited about this year's Oilers. We are going to have 3 scoring lines that skate well and play excited because of the new coaching staff. Our young goalies looked poised yesterday. They say that Souray's shot is incredibly hard and the only safe place from it is the net.

We are soooooo making the playoffs!

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#20 Antony Ta
September 17 2009, 08:52AM
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Dude the Refinery was hit by the same spammers. It's the commenting system that allows it, because it doesn't need you to be logged in like with a Google account.

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#21 scorecoff hemmercules
September 17 2009, 08:56AM
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@ Harlie:

All I said was he misses the net alot when he tries those huge shots, which he does. Not picking on him at all, he's our best dman IMO. Seems like when he tries to kill the puck (or someone in front of the net!) he often misses, yet when he just goes for a solid shot he's right on.

~its pre season??? and here I thought we were 2-0 to start the season, silly me~

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#22 Ogden Brother
September 17 2009, 08:57AM
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How did JT look?

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#23 ronaldo
September 17 2009, 08:59AM
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@ Odgen Brother He didn't bring sexy back last night. *wonders if he is mixing up his JT's*

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#24 ronaldo
September 17 2009, 09:01AM
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@Odgen Brother Seriously- he didn't stand out in any way. Eberle looked the better of the two.

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#25 ronaldo
September 17 2009, 09:03AM
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@ OB Sorry for screwing up your name twice.

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#26 Harlie
September 17 2009, 09:03AM
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@ scorecoff hemmercules:

i hope for all of ours sakes that his aim improves as the year progresses. I am confident it will. I'd rather his misses hit someone from the opposition (not to injure but to scare the H E double toothpicks out of them and gain us some room in the slot. Souray is firing some warning shots over the bow right now just softening up the opponents and making the Northlands workers sweat too.

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#27 billmad
September 17 2009, 09:07AM
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@ Ogden Brother: Nothing to rave about... yet. Won a few face offs but didn't really stand out to me. I think it'll take time for him to find his game in the big league. He's very different, IMO, from guys like Crosby and OV8. His skill set, again IMO, can't make an immediete impact. He's going to have to get comfortable and confident first.

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#28 jeff
September 17 2009, 09:08AM
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@ Harlie: Souray mentioned that other guys needed to step up so he didn't have to play in all situations and all the time.

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#29 jeff
September 17 2009, 09:09AM
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@ scorecoff hemmercules: I kinda agree. When Pronger was here he didn't miss that much did he? It seemed he knew when to take the big shot and he knew when to tone it down for the tip.

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#30 Jonathan Willis
September 17 2009, 09:10AM
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For everyone wondering what I thought:

The reason I didn't do a ton of analysis here was because I live-blogged the game at my other site.

I didn't have anything else to add.

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#31 billmad
September 17 2009, 09:19AM
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What's the AHL eligibility? I would prefer to see Eberle spend a significant amount of time there before playing up here. Not saying he may not deserve it but I would love to see what a properly developed high-end prospect could do eventually.

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#32 bingofuel
September 17 2009, 09:21AM
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@ Antony Ta:

We're in the process of making changes that will hopefully mitigate the spam in the comments.

Thank you to everyone who emailed or tweeted me about this!

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#33 Harlie
September 17 2009, 09:22AM
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jeff wrote:

@ scorecoff hemmercules: I kinda agree. When Pronger was here he didn’t miss that much did he? It seemed he knew when to take the big shot and he knew when to tone it down for the tip.

Pronger 05-06 - 155 shots/ 7.7% shooting percentage/ 12 goals Souray 08-09 - 268 shots/ 8.6% shooting percentage/ 23 goals

Souray shot more and he scored more and ended up with a better shot percentage than Pronger. If he pares back his shots we may get less production. His misses don't concern me when you look at the above stats.

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#34 Jason Gregor
September 17 2009, 09:23AM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Okay, one more comment: that “bad habits” remark had to be aimed at the Gagner line. Either that or Trukhno, but we all know he’s going to the AHL.

The bad habits were directed at everyone. Souray admitted that Quinn, "Is a bit of a drill sargent back there. In a good way. He and the other coaches are pointing out mistakes during the game and challenging us to get better."

Yes, Gagner has some, but pretty much ever player on this team has some habits the new coaching staff wants to break them of.

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#35 jeff
September 17 2009, 09:25AM
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@ Jason Gregor: Wow, so MacT and company weren't pointing out mistakes during a game? Isn't that their job?

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#36 Jason Gregor
September 17 2009, 09:29AM
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jdrevenge wrote:

About Trukhno… did he move up to Gagners line during the game or did he start there? Phillips was making a comment that he felt he was a player… maybe Quinn sees something as well.

Trukhno didn't play a regular shift with Gagner, but did have a few twirls with them. He can make nifty plays, like the breakout re-direct pass behind his back direct to Pouliot. But he needs to have a stand out year in the AHL and grab the attention of the staff. He has yet to do that so far.

jeff wrote:

I have to retract that statement as I now see Smid had 28 minutes and Motin had 20. What’s with the stats at the Oil website only 15 skaters?

Go to NHL.com and click on scores. They have good breakdown of all the game stats.

billmad wrote:

What’s the AHL eligibility? I would prefer to see Eberle spend a significant amount of time there before playing up here.

Eberle is too young to play in AHL this year. Only Europeans can play as 19 or 18 year olds, or a guy who leaves College. If Eberle gets sent home he goes to Regina in the WHL.

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#37 jeff
September 17 2009, 09:32AM
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@ Jason Gregor: What is the logic to allowing Euro's to play at a younger age? Is it so NHL teams can get the players over here quicker? And then college players too, it seems pretty stupid.

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#38 Jason Gregor
September 17 2009, 09:32AM
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jeff wrote:

Wow, so MacT and company weren’t pointing out mistakes during a game? Isn’t that their job?

They did, but not as much, and I suspect that these coaches are on the guys more now because of the new system and style they want them to play. The mistakes should be fewer as the preseason and regular season progresses. If it doesn't then, guys won't stick or the team won't be that good.

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#39 ronaldo
September 17 2009, 09:35AM
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Everything I have heard about Quinn doing to this point I like. My favorite/ best coach I had growing up was also the biggest hard-ass.He knew what he was doing so he had everyone's respect. When he demanded attention to detail, we listened. It sounds like Quinn is like this at the NHL level and the players are eager to respond to it. It may take some time for the players to get rid of their old habits, but I'm encouraged by this noticable change in leadership.

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#40 Jason Gregor
September 17 2009, 09:36AM
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jeff wrote:

What is the logic to allowing Euro’s to play at a younger age? Is it so NHL teams can get the players over here quicker? And then college players too, it seems pretty stupid.

College players because if they attend a camp they lose their eligibility automatically. They can't send them back to college. Most guys who leave before they are 20 only leave because they think they will make the NHL team, so it is rare.

European players have this distinction so if they come over, going to the AHL is a way allows them to get used to the North American style. This doesn't happen very often.

The reason they don't allow major junior guys to go is because it would hurt the WHL, OHL and QMJHL. Eberle will sell tickets in the WHL this year, he probably wouldn't sell that many more in the AHL. It is a partnership between the NHL and CJHL teams. It makes sense. No point raiding those teams who help develop future NHL stars.

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#41 jeff
September 17 2009, 09:38AM
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@ Jason Gregor: Fair enough. At least someone can shed some light on this topic, and so quickly.

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#42 Woogie
September 17 2009, 09:41AM
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***Important***

What kind of gum does Quinn Chew?

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#43 jeff
September 17 2009, 09:50AM
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@ Woogie: Big League Chew

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#44 BUCK75
September 17 2009, 09:51AM
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Woogie wrote:

***Important*** What kind of gum does Quinn Chew?

He had an Extra commercial when coaching the leafs.

Hopefully it's stride now & Grebs gives him the horns to the solarplexes or zyphoid like the commercial.

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#45 scorecoff hemmercules
September 17 2009, 10:11AM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

For everyone wondering what I thought: The reason I didn’t do a ton of analysis here was because I live-blogged the game at my other site. I didn’t have anything else to add.

I must say thats an awesome write-up on last nights game at your other site JW, keep it up!

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#46 The Towel Boy
September 17 2009, 10:23AM
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Eberle had quite a few chances to pot some G's last night...he's going to be a pretty darn good player I think. I'd marry him if jeanshorts didn't already propose to him.

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#47 ScubaSteve
September 17 2009, 10:32AM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

For everyone wondering what I thought: The reason I didn’t do a ton of analysis here was because I live-blogged the game at my other site.

Good writeup on the other site, but your MAP man crush showed through pretty hard. He was a play killer all night. 16 mins TOI and 0 Shots? Pretty ineffective. If this game is any measure, he doesn't make the team.

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#48 Fish
September 17 2009, 10:37AM
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I thought Eberle was one of our best players. He didn't look out of place at all last night. I thought Pisani looked very average as did the red ox.

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#49 Asciutto
September 17 2009, 11:26AM
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"your MAP man crush showed through pretty hard. He was a play killer all night. "

60% on face-offs 8 of 15 were Own Zone draws I thought that line looked good

[Hemsky no shots 5v5, one 5v4 - bum]

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#50 billmad
September 17 2009, 11:41AM
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@ Fish: Pisani was non-existent last night. Probably the worst out of all the supposed top 9 guys. I actually don't mind Pisani but he did nothing last night.

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