The Edmonton Oilers End of Camp Roster

Jonathan Willis
September 17 2009 04:16PM

Looking at the current contracts and waiver eligibility of the group of players assembled at the Oilers’ training camp, I believe we can say with near certainty (barring a trade or injury) who will be playing with the team to start the season.

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Let’s start by considering the locks:

  • Shawn Horcoff
  • Dustin Penner
  • Ales Hemsky
  • Patrick O’Sullivan
  • Fernando Pisani
  • Ethan Moreau
  • Sam Gagner
  • Andrew Cogliano
  • Zack Stortini

That’s a list of nine players who will be with the team. I think we can add five more players with a reasonable degree of certainty:

  • Robert Nilsson
  • Mike Comrie
  • Marc Pouliot
  • Gilbert Brule
  • Jean-Francois Jacques

There are very few question marks even with those six players. Robert Nilsson is a leading candidate to be dealt based on skill-set and cap space. Some have suggested Marc Pouliot is as well, but at 6’1” he adds some size to the lineup and can play a defensive role – both skills which are in short supply on this roster. Gilbert Brule would need to clear waivers and given the cost to acquire him (Raffi Torres) and his pedigree I think it’s extremely unlikely that the Oilers would risk it.

In reality, the only player whose spot is in any real danger (with the possible exception of Nilsson) is J-F Jacques, but his numbers (6’4”, 217lbs) and the fact that he would need to clear waivers make it extremely unlikely that he’ll lose his job.

All this means that it’s a good bet that Jordan Eberle will be returned to junior, guys like Potulny, Reddox, Minard and Stone will go back to Springfield, and that Rob Schremp will disappear on the waiver wire or join that foursome in the AHL.

Defense

Again, let’s start by considering the locks:

  • Lubomir Visnovsky
  • Sheldon Souray
  • Tom Gilbert
  • Denis Grebeshkov
  • Steve Staios
  • Ladislav Smid

Some might argue with the inclusion of Staios, but while his contract is hefty and the returns are diminishing I think there’s very, very little chance he ends up anywhere else on opening night. That leaves Jason Strudwick on the bubble, but given that the player with the best chance of passing him (Theo Peckham) was injured to start camp, I’d say he’s pretty safe too.

Goaltenders

Everybody’s a lock here. Nikolai Khabibulin is the team’s designated starter and there isn’t anyone who can challenge him for that role at this point. Meanwhile, Devan Dubnyk can clear wiavers and Jeff Deslauriers can’t. Honestly, Dubnyk probably has as good a shot at any of the guys on the outside of forcing his way on to the roster, since the Oilers need to make a choice on these two before next season, but it remains highly unlikely that he’ll be able to do it out of training camp.

That’s it. The only real mystery that remains is the line combinations.

Oh, and just to forestall the inevitable complaints (why is Hemsky listed third?) the players above are ranked by cap hit.

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#101 scorecoff hemmercules
September 18 2009, 09:01AM
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@ Fiveandagame:

I hate Theo. Always have always will.

This time of year my oiler goggles are glued to my head, no time for other teams. The only teams I root for in the playoffs are Edmonton and whoever is playing Calgary, after that, nothing alse matters.

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#102 Paul
September 18 2009, 09:06AM
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where`s Mcintyre fit into all of this?

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#103 Fish
September 18 2009, 09:12AM
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I've obviously been an Oiler fan all of my life. I am a season ticket holder, but I have to admit, I loved seeing Theo Fleury score that winner last night. I sincerely hope the guy makes the team.

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#104 Dallas
September 18 2009, 09:30AM
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@ scorecoff hemmercules: Not to mention that shootout goal was nothing special. Did you see the YouTube comments on that goal. BRUTAL like they were talking about seeing Gretz score SMFH loser flameout fans. They may need his little bit of offence though lol. We all know Jussi won't keep up the pace he was scoring at last night lol losers

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#105 The Menace
September 18 2009, 09:32AM
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Fish wrote:

I’ve obviously been an Oiler fan all of my life. I am a season ticket holder, but I have to admit, I loved seeing Theo Fleury score that winner last night. I sincerely hope the guy makes the team.

I hope he makes that team too, but probably for different reasons. ;)

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#106 BigE57
September 18 2009, 09:45AM
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@ RossCreek:

I don't know man, it looks to me like he leaves his feet at the last second to make the hit, I could be wrong. Borderline at best and definetly not the time or place.

It really does speak to the class and character of the player or lack thereof. You could put together a pretty good video of the open ice hits that Scott Stevens laid guys out with over the years, but I doubt that you would be pulling any from preseason games.

Total lack of respect for a fellow NHL player at a time when most veteran players are just shaking off the rust and not going full out.

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#107 Pokey Reddock
September 18 2009, 09:46AM
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A true Oiler fan hates to see that horrible replay of Fleury doin' the knee slide after that goal Fish. Sorry I have to totally disagree with you there@ Fish:

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#108 Mr. Pink 17
September 18 2009, 09:46AM
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How can Comrie not be considered a lock, a past 30 goal scorer and lets face it a crowd favorite whether we like it or not. Where is McIntre in the end. Pouliot has to go. Say what you want about Staios he would do anything for the team. Schremp needs an opportunity somewehre else.

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#109 Fish
September 18 2009, 09:51AM
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That f%$#ng Phaneuf is such a pu$$y. The guy literally skated away when that young kid went after him. It was so pathetic. I'd like to see someone end his career.

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#110 scorecoff hemmercules
September 18 2009, 09:55AM
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@ Fish:

I would rather his career decline with each passing year leaving him without a contract and begging teams to sign him for league minimum.

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#111 Mr. Pink 17
September 18 2009, 09:58AM
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@ Fish: I like Phaneuf and i thought it was a clean hit. Too many people want hitting to go away. He might of left his feet a little bit but what is he suppose to do, not hit him, make a move and score a goal. I say play the game and play it HARD

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#112 Dallas
September 18 2009, 10:01AM
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scorecoff hemmercules wrote:

@ Fish: I would rather his career decline with each passing year leaving him without a contract and begging teams to sign him for league minimum.

You mean like what's happening to Iggy and Kipper and Jokinen lmao

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#113 scorecoff hemmercules
September 18 2009, 10:04AM
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Dallas wrote:

You mean like what’s happening to Iggy and Kipper and Jokinen lmao

Nice!

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#114 Fish
September 18 2009, 10:04AM
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@ Mr. Pink 17: Its pre-season against the Islanders. Not opening night against the Canucks. Also, if you're going to hit the guy and someone takes exception, at least answer the bell. Maybe it's just the guys face that annoys me so much. He's a "c" hair away from being a cro-magnon.

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#115 Dallas
September 18 2009, 10:07AM
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Pheneuf is a ugly loser that hit was totally uncalled for plain and simple. He is not a guy that is vying for a spot on the team so you can't even compare it to the paukovic greentree hit last year. The guy is a total douche bag and I hope to hell they do not play him on team Canada. I wouldn't even want him on our team the guy has serious issues

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#116 Bob Loblaw
September 18 2009, 10:08AM
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Dion Phaneuf reminds me of a young Derian Hatcher. Big and slow. Slow in the head too and I agree with Fish that Dion is a coward.

All the fights he's been in have been instigated by the other team because he's always running away from them.

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#117 scorecoff hemmercules
September 18 2009, 10:09AM
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@ Mr. Pink 17:

I'm sure the guy he hit learned something (the hard way) but there is no place for that type of thing in a meaningless game against a crap team. The hit didn't really look dirty but was it really neccesary? Caveman is a lock to make the team, its not like he's fighting for a roster spot.

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#118 Oilersordeath
September 18 2009, 10:21AM
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Just wait n see what comes around goes around, Dion will get his hence Tie Domi knockin that Swede cheap shot piece of sh!t out(Ulf). Someone will say fu$& this enough is enough and just blast the prick. Mark my words

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#119 Dallas
September 18 2009, 10:24AM
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@ scorecoff hemmercules: Were thinking exactly the same see my comment. If he tryed that on Gagner or cogs or anyone of our future stars Souray or SMac would not let him run away like the p$&@y he is.

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#120 DK0
September 18 2009, 10:27AM
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Could you imagine if an oiler got hit like that and Smack was on the bench? He would have solved the "where does Mac fit?" dilemma by getting a lifetime ban after murdering Dion

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#121 Word
September 18 2009, 10:28AM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

@ Word: I guess what I’m saying is that if we can all see that Pouliot > Schremp, I’m pretty sure NHL teams can see it too. Pouliot probably wouldn’t clear waivers.

But the Oilers are not like most teams. We actually need more Pouliots and less Schremps (assuming he doesn't blossom). I can't think of many teams in that position. Pouliot > Schremp, but you cannot field a team of Pouliots. Why would a GM pick him of waivers if it's not what the team needs? There's no reason for a team to "gamble" on Pouliot. You either need him or you don't. A Schremp on the other hand, if he proves to be more than what he's shown in all of 6 NHL games, is needed by almost all teams. Waivers is a supply and demand issue, not a BPA draft pick.

Waiving Schremp is letting other teams gamble with our money.

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#122 Dallas
September 18 2009, 10:28AM
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Souray could absolutly obliterate him nevermind SMac lol. Penner is no slight either that guy he one punched last year was classic.

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#123 Word
September 18 2009, 10:33AM
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Dallas wrote:

Souray could absolutly obliterate him nevermind SMac lol. Penner is no slight either that guy he one punched last year was classic.

Penner vs. Phaneuf was a lame fight, except Penner got in a few coward licks from on top, which makes me smile.

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#124 The Menace
September 18 2009, 10:36AM
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I think it's well covered here that Dion is ugly, and he seems to be a few bricks short of a load. Enough about that trash - It's fricken' Oilers (preseason) Gameday! wooo!

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#125 Mr. Pink 17
September 18 2009, 10:37AM
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@ Fish: I agree he should have answered the bell, but I think he was trying to down play the hit. He is ugly.

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#126 Chris.
September 18 2009, 10:38AM
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Dallas wrote:

Souray could absolutly obliterate him nevermind SMac lol. Penner is no slight either that guy he one punched last year was classic.

Moreau beat up Phaneuf pretty bad a few seasons back... After their altercation, Phaneuf pulled the ultimate disappearing act. Fact is, Phaneuf is a total pussy: he will never be of value in a seven game series, all you have to do is tune him up a little in game one and he'll be too scared to initiate contact.

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#127 Fiveandagame
September 18 2009, 10:38AM
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If you watch the highlights of the Calgary game, in the first period one of the NYI young guys took a run at Jokinen. Jokinen dropped the gloves. The NYI we running all over the ice.

I saw nothing wrong with the hit. Had Okposo bounced right up and played the next shift none of you would be saying a thing.

Clean hit with in the rules.

NYI wanted a physical game and one of their guys went down because of it, boo hoo, skate with your head up.

We sound like a bunch of leaf fans in here, crying about a hit. Had it been Souray we'd be celebrating it.

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#128 Mr. Pink 17
September 18 2009, 10:42AM
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@ Fiveandagame: we are on the same page, Why play the preseason any different than a regular season game. A true gamer does not take days off, even if he is not playing for a spot on the roster he is there to show the way for the young guys, play hard, bleed red or go to the AHL.

Go OIlers

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#129 Fro
September 18 2009, 10:48AM
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Fiveandagame wrote: Had it been Souray we’d be celebrating it.

Souray has a set and would have fought to back up the hit!

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#130 Dallas
September 18 2009, 10:48AM
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@ Fiveandagame: I wouldn't if you read my other comment I made the comment that it's kinda like the paukovic Greentree hit last year and that was a dirty hit as well and he was vying for a spot on the team. Pheneuf isn't, I do not know if the hit itself was dirty cause I have not seen it in slow mo but the fact he pulled that crap in exibition is dirty as hell especially when he is a lock for the team and does not need to impress like that. Like I said the guy has serious issues. Souray is a stand up guy who would never pull that crap in exibition so don't even try to compare that

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#131 Dallas
September 18 2009, 10:50AM
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Not to mention Souray would not be afraid to back it up. Unlike that mental case

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#132 Dan the Man
September 18 2009, 10:59AM
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Fiveandagame wrote:

We sound like a bunch of leaf fans in here, crying about a hit. Had it been Souray we’d be celebrating it. Reply

The BIG difference is that Souray wouldn't have made that hit in pre-season. He has far more class that Phaneuf. I don't think it was a particularly dirty hit but that garbage shouldn't happen in in pre-season, especially from a proven vet who isn't fighting for a roster spot.

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#133 Dallas
September 18 2009, 11:08AM
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Dan the Man wrote:

Fiveandagame wrote: We sound like a bunch of leaf fans in here, crying about a hit. Had it been Souray we’d be celebrating it. Reply The BIG difference is that Souray wouldn’t have made that hit in pre-season. He has far more class that Phaneuf. I don’t think it was a particularly dirty hit but that garbage shouldn’t happen in in pre-season, especially from a proven vet who isn’t fighting for a roster spot.

My point exactly. Why is everyone thinking the same thing as me today lol

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#134 Fish
September 18 2009, 11:09AM
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@ Dan the Man: I agree. Souray would never have taken that hit on a guy in pre-season. Phaneuf is one of the best hitters in the game, but don't be a hero and end the guys season before it begins and if you choose to, back it up puss.I can't even stand to look at the guy anymore. It makes me physically ill.

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#135 scorecoff hemmercules
September 18 2009, 11:10AM
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Oilers 4-2 tonight. Horc with 2 goals. Bulin will look rusty but hold on for the win.

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#136 Fiveandagame
September 18 2009, 11:10AM
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You guys don't think Souray would have stepped up and made a hit like that after some young punk in a pre season game took a run at Horcoff? Cause thats what happened. Jokinen got ran early and Phaneuf picked his spot.

Don't delude yourselves guys.

Also don't you think Stortini or Strudwick would have tried to jump in and protect Souray had he made a hit like that? You don't want one of your star guys getting into it with an AHL punk who came off the bench to take a run at him. Many of the Flame players got in the way AND by avoiding the guy, Phaneuf was giving his team a chance to go on the powerplay.

Hate on's for Phaneuf aside. Nothing wrong with the hit.

NYI were playing hard, and Okposo got caught with his head down. All is fair.

Clean hit.

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#137 Eric
September 18 2009, 11:12AM
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The Jokeinen fight and the faneuf hit tell me something. The Flamers are going to play a hard hitting style this year. The game was pretty much like that. Anyway, that is the only way they have to play with no offense whatsoever.

GO OILERS!!!!

As far as Schremp goes, I think he should at least get something like 10-20 games just to be sure.

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#138 Bob Cob
September 18 2009, 11:18AM
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Dion Phanuef is a mouth breathing neanderthal meathead. It was a dirty check, he took a run at the guy, left his feet and led with his shoulder/elbow. The worst thing is that Okposo was just coming off a hit from Giordanno, I think, and was totally unprepared and vulneralble. Regher and Phanuef have been getting away with cheap hits for years, thats why the Oilers need a deterrant like McIntyre in the line up on certain occassions. And than does Phanuef fight? No, hes to much of a coward to back up the cheap hit that he just delivered, at least Tootoo, like him or not, has the balls to back up his actions.

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#139 Fish
September 18 2009, 11:20AM
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Clean hit: Yes. Necessary in a pre season game: No

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#140 Halibut
September 18 2009, 11:20AM
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Was the cost to get Brule more than the cost to get Shremp? Was Raffi Torres worth a 1st round pick? I dont see any reason to automatically give Brule the spot over Shremp if his play doesnt warrant it based on who he was traded for.

I'm of the opinion that the trade was more a salary dump of the inconsistent Torres than it was a move to acquire Brule.

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#141 risto
September 18 2009, 11:24AM
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Who's got a gameday lineup?

Will the Bulin Wall play?

Has Pat Quinn ruffled Shelly's feathers? He seemed surly against the New York Fishstickers. I like the surly Shelly.

What I'm really looking for on our roster this year is a Tikk-like pest the other teams hate to play against. Even better is the entire roster playing like that.

That is why Moreau has been a liability to our team as a leader.

He occasionally will try to rally the troops with a gung-ho move that ends up with him out of the lineup, or even more regularly in the box. The team sees how dumb that was, and then goes back to fancy finesse no-hitting hockey.

If you look at our last playoff year, 05-06, our road record is absolutely nuts. I forgot what a road warrior team we were that year!

*tries to remember to say "they" not "we", but the homer chip is too ingrained in what remains of the frontal lobe*

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#142 Chris.
September 18 2009, 11:27AM
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I was a Phaneuf fan... When he broke into the league the only problem I saw was the fact that he wasn't in Oiler silks. I lost a lot of respect for him when he made a dirty hit from behind on Gagner who was playing his first handful of games... Moreau immediiately forced Phaneuf to be accountable. (I mean Forced) It must have been embarrassing to Flames fan's to watch Phaneuf try to weasel out of fighting a man who is not even an enforcer type player... What would have been more embarrassing, was the fact that Moreau, throughout the game, made like he was going to re-engage and Phaneuf fled every single time. Days later, in the Saddeldome, on the other half of the home and home set; Moreau repeatedly caused Phaneuf to back off finishing checks just by making a motion like he was going to cross over to Phaneuf's side of the ice... My buddies and I were laughing our a$$es off at Phaneuf's expense... HD TV really can capture the fear in a man's eyes. I've never had much respect for Phaneuf ever since.

Last season Phaneuf was on the ice for more goals against than any other D-man in the western conference. He can no longer buy himself extra space through intimidation because he has been outted around the league for being the coward that he is. With the aquisition of J-Bow, I suspect Phaneuf's days in Calgary are numbered: Sutter probably hates a coward even more than I do. Regehr, on the other hand, is the real deal.

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#143 jeff
September 18 2009, 11:45AM
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@ risto: The new blog and the Oiler site had the roster first thing this morning.

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#144 BarryS
September 18 2009, 11:46AM
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The worry is not really anybody from Oilers getting picked off of wavers going down, 29 other teams will be filling the wire at the same time (maybe up to 200 guys at once), but getting picked off when called up. I believe they have to clear both ways. What's with the mancrush with Schremp? The guy has had three years to make the team, and the fact is he lacks the mental toughness to make the team, pure and simple. Guy thinks a spot should be given not earned. The only one who has kept Schriemp off the team is Schremp! Get over it, nobody will claim him to play the whole year on an NHL roster which is the effect of claiming him on wavers.

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#145 The Menace
September 18 2009, 11:47AM
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@ Chris.: Daryl Sutter loves Pha-goof, and Brent was his coach in the WHL, so I think Dion will remain a Flame for some time. I love the fact tehy can't see him for what he is - he will handicapp that frachise for his whole career, and they wil burn piles of cap space doing it.

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#146 Fish
September 18 2009, 11:49AM
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@ Chris.: That, my friend, was the best posts I have seen in a while, with the exception of you giving Regehr props. I don't like that c*nt either.

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#147 jeff
September 18 2009, 11:55AM
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@ BarryS: The thing is when calling someone up if it is to replace an injuried player they don't have to clear waivers. So unless we are just calling guys up and down for the hell of it, there shouldn't be a problem.

Also having Reddox and Peckham not have to clear waivers gives us two decent NHLers to call up and down.

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#148 Chris.
September 18 2009, 11:58AM
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@ Fish:

I don't like Regehr. I respect him. Players who consistantly play on the edge occassionaly cross the line. Guys like Regehr don't have the luxary of being proud of every single play... but at least Regehr will face the music when he crosses that line.

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#149 jeff
September 18 2009, 12:09PM
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@ Chris.: I wish we had a Regehr

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#150 EddieEdmonton
September 18 2009, 12:16PM
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i just saw the hit and i must say that is low and dirty i knew dion was a coward from youth, my friend picked on him through out junior and high school that hit is disrespectful on so many levels its preseason the islander is already being checked by two players, one who already stumbled the kid of the pack but being a weasely-serpent that he is dion sees this as an oppurtunity to not only hit the guy but to swing into him full momentum while leaving the ice and puting out his elbow to boot then scared but fully aware that people are watching and he cant hop the bench and look like girl, he skates with his back turned through a loop of players until he gets in a comfrontable position between two refs he then to save him slef attempts to hug the other guy down and fall with him so the refs can now escort dion to the bench safely dion is a coward with no class sad thing is sid tim and cabbie will hop on his penis and play that out like it was hockey but it isnt this is hockey hemsky gagner and company oilers baby fcuk those flamers down south heartless bastards if dion jay and inigla had any heart theyd play here for their people, fans and team the grew up on not down south in a bowl of ( ) anyways back to hockey couple of things i would like to ask the fellownation 1. forth line 2. schremp 3. ladi and theo

comrie gagner hemsky sullivan horcoff nillson penner cogliano pisani ( ) ( )moreau that is my take it on first three lines or top nine forwards so what do u do on the forth line with moreau switch between toughness and speed on diffrent nights? if you put schremp on the fourth you would need another someone there to balance him out, who ? pouliot could go there too but the again who do you put with him ? i cant see pouliot and schremp playin on the team at the same time expecially on the same line and one more thing before i go souray grebeshkov vishnovsky gilbert staios smid on my nhl2k10 franchise i got smid and pechkam on my third d-line im a fan of both kids and the heart and effort they put in the game(real not my videogame) i know they are both young and not mature enough but how good would it be if pechkam and smido was on the third line holding it down beating the crap out of those heartlees female dogs down south and every othere direction also im not a big fan of staios( my goat) he is getting old and he makes a good 3 mill plus late last season he was developing the fossil hip syndrome and take it forever to turn i think he is too old for the new faster game i just wish theo didnt get injured and oh that we trade staios(my goat) so with that id liek to ask what u guys have invisioned for the following seasoon?

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