GDB minus-6: Putting up the Wall

Jason Gregor
September 18 2009 11:34AM

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Does anyone know what Bulk Barn is? If you’re wondering why I’m asking such a random question so early in the morning it’s because, the Oilers were supposed to be on the ice at nine, and as of this writing, I’m sitting here watching Khabibulin and goaltending coach Freddy Chabot do through the paces. Bulk Barn is one of the logos on the ice, and I have no idea what they are.

As you know I’m not a fan of goalies — more so goaltender commentators, but it was interesting watching Chabot warm-up Khabibulin. They were out for at least 20 minutes before everyone else. Chabot had 50 pucks in the slot and he would rotate firing them at Khabibulin’s left and right side. Every shot the Bulin Wall would put into the corner. He put eleven straight from the left side in the exact same spot; directly to the corner under the NHL.com logo on the boards. Pretty impressive puck control from Khabibulin.

The lineup tonight looks very similar to Tuesday’s game in Calgary.

Jacques — Horcoff — Schremp O’Sullivan — Comrie — Stone Lazo — Brule — Linglet Brennan — O’Marra — Stortini Gilbert — Chorney Staios — Arsene Strudwick — Plante Khabibulin and Dubnyk

We’ll see Brule and Khabibulin for the first time tonight, along with O’Marra, Linglet and Lazo.

Brule was scheduled to play in Calgary but sat out due to the flu, and he says he feels fine now.

Things to watch tonight

  • JF Jacques needs to be much better than he was on Tuesday. He wasn’t physical and on four separate occasions he didn’t help Horcoff on draws. Quinn pointed it out on Wednesday, and I’ll be curious to see if Jacques “gets it” tonight. Jacques better show he knows he has to play a 4th line role regardless of who he plays with.
  • Brule has a job to win if he wants it. He is much more physical than Pouliot, is just as good in the draws, and plays way more aggressively. I spoke to him yesterday and he is eagerly waiting for tonight. He wants a regular spot in the lineup.
  • Can Schremp make some plays five-on-five? We know he is good on the PP, but he won’t make this team if he can’t contribute even strength. He has been much better moving his feet so far this year. It seems he has broken the habit of getting across the blueline and then coasting into the zone. He needs to keep moving his feet.
  • I know many of you were impressed by Stone on Tuesday, and you should have been. But he was playing against predominantly AHL players. He won’t stick here, but he can make a good impression and be one of the first guys called up when the injury bug hits.
  • Will O’Sullivan and Comrie have the same chemistry or was it only one game? At some point this pre-season, either Comrie or Cogliano will have to play a game on the wing. There isn’t enough room for both of them in the middle. Neither should centre the 4th line, so I’m curious to see which guy will be the first to play the wing.
  • How long will it take for Brennan to drop his gloves? He didn’t find a dance partner on Tuesday and you know he wants to make a statement with his fists tonight. Brennan firmly believes he can take MacIntryre’s spot on this team. I don’t see how, since he only has an AHL contract, but he is confident he can.
  • Will they play Cotton-Eyed Joe again tonight? I can’t believe they still play that song, since I don’t know any fan or player who gets fired up by that song. It is AWFUL. They played it on Wednesday, and the Islanders scored a minute after to tie the game in the 3rd period. The only way that song should ever be played again is if the actual “Joe” makes a one-night only return to Rexall.You remember him don’t you? The song would come on, and he’d jump out of his seat and start to dance up and down the stairs, then halfway through the song he’d take his shirt off, and finish his dance. He looked like an idiot, but it was entertaining for a year or so. It ended when he thought he should get paid more than just getting to gold seats every game.

***An aside about “Joe”. One night at the old Cocktail Club on the southside, I was drinking after an Oiler game. Brett Lindros was in there and a buddy of mine knew him through a friend. He was retired and now hosting the “Be A Player” show that aired on TSN. We are having few pops and Lindros is telling us some classic stories about his time with the Islanders, when “Joe” comes over and interrupts. “Joe” starts in on Brett about how he should do a variety of things differently on his show. He starts telling him how to ask question better.

To Lindros’ credit he was calm throughout. He said thanks for the tips and turned around to talk to us. Well, “Joe” wouldn’t let it go and gives him the “Don’t you know who I am” line. I’m not lying. Lindros, of course, had no clue who he was, so we filled him in. Lindros starts to laugh and says, “You keep dancing man, maybe one day you’ll be on Broadway.”“Joe” starts on with “My career will last longer than yours did”, and then he must have thought his song was playing because he took his shirt off in the bar and takes a step towards Brett.

Finally Lindros has had enough. He takes one hand and puts it on the face of “Joe” and literally picks him up by the face, and shoves him away and says get lost. The bouncers come over and grab “Joe”, who is fuming now. He challenges Lindros to come outside, but the bouncer steps in and says he’ll take care of it. “Joe” stood outside the bar for an hour and a half waving at Lindros through the window. One of the funniest things I’ve ever seen. The guy was off his rocker, and he really thought he was an Edmonton celebrity because of his song.

Coaches' roles

I asked Pat Quinn about what roles his coaches would have this season.

  • Tom Renney will be in charge of the defence and practice.
  • Wayne Fleming will run the powerplay and be one of the observers from up above.
  • Kelly Buchberger is in charge of the PK and will be an in game observer on the bench and relay info to Quinn.
  • Quinn will oversee all three of these facets and plans to work closely with all three.

Tune into Just A Game on the TEAM 1260 today, and I will play Quinn’s response about all three of them. I will play it right off the top at 3:05 MST. Or you can listen online at Just A Game.

You asked for it

Many of you asked to have Brownlee's Irritants of the week posted, so I put them up at Just A Game. They will be there every Friday from now on.

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One of Canada's most versatile sports personalities. Jason hosts The Jason Gregor Show, weekdays from 2 to 6 p.m., on TSN 1260, and he writes a column every Monday in the Edmonton Journal. You can follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/JasonGregor
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#51 jeff
September 18 2009, 01:17PM
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For the streamers, does NHL.com have something for games?

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#52 Jimmy
September 18 2009, 01:19PM
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I think NHL.com offers the option to pay to stream every game, iirc.

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#53 jeff
September 18 2009, 01:21PM
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@ The Menace: LOL. I never even really caught that.

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#54 ronaldo
September 18 2009, 01:23PM
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The Menace wrote:

Has anyone ever had the occassion to purchase *bulk* quantities of pinatas?

At the beginning of each season I stock up for my Stanley Cup party. And then smash them when the season ends in disappointment- though I do get delicious candy to sooth my emotional wounds.

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#55 OprahsSandwich
September 18 2009, 01:23PM
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Maybe I'm blind, but does anyone know the line up for the Panthers tonight?

That is who we're playing right?

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#56 G unit.
September 18 2009, 01:24PM
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@ W.T.:

I think you are missing an 'F' at the end of your name. As in WTF are you doing talking in 3rd person...???

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#57 jeff
September 18 2009, 01:25PM
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@ OprahsSandwich: 4 Dennis Seidenberg D 15 Christian Backman D 22 Jeff Taffe LW 24 Bryan McCabe D 27 Steve Reinprecht C 29 Tomas Vokoun G 35 Tyler Plante G 37 Jamie Johnson C 42 Martin Skoula D 44 Jordan Leopold D 45 David Brine C 48 Luke Beaverson D 49 Andrew Sweetland 52 Jason Garrison D 61 Cory Stillman C 64 Adam Keefe RW 65 Victor Oreskovich RW 67 Michael Frolik C 68 Mike Duco LW 75 Scott Timmins C 76 Eric Himelfarb C

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#58 Ssseth
September 18 2009, 01:27PM
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I wondered the same thing about the annoyingly yellow Bulk Barn logo at center ice as well on Wednesday. Why are they advertising in Edmonton when the only store they have in Alberta is in Lethbridge?... odd.

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#59 Ogden Brother
September 18 2009, 01:30PM
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freeze wrote:

@ lol: I thought the YKOil post summed it up well: hxxp://ykoil.blogspot.com/2009/09/new-year-new-attitude.html We had high expectations going into the year. For the most part of the year we were in a playoff position and we were in pretty good shape. At the end we really didn’t fulfill those expectations and when that happens changes are made. I think the players lost their trust and faith in me and my ability to get the job done, and for a large part I think that was the same for me, that I lost faith in the players.” Craig MacTavish (TSN interview) That quote pretty much echoes everything that I, and a few others, were saying last year. And it hurt because I (and ‘we’ in some cases) am a MacT fan. Guy is a great freakin’ coach but he got thrown under the bus by this team’s player procurement department too many times and finally lost it. I can’t dismiss the fact that MacT may have said all that so as to take a fall for the team. I can’t. My third favorite Oiler ever, everything I have ever seen from the guy indicates that his first instinct is to take the hit to make a play. So maybe he did. But for now. Perhaps for me. I’ll take him at his words. If true it means that Quinn and Renney may be able to get a lot of mileage out of this roster and if so maybe they take 3rd in the division and if they can do that then maybe 7th or 8th is a possibility. 6th if another team completely falls off the map (it happens). Look. I’m trying to be positive here okay?!?

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Thanks for the quote, I never seen/heard it before. I think it sums the situation/season up perfectly. Well done MacT.

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#60 I'm a Scientist!
September 18 2009, 01:31PM
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*looks up from the SuperComputer for a brief moment*

Is it just me, or do the coaches roles cover everything except forwards?

Renney - Defence and practice Flemming - PP Buckie - PK Quinn...all three...

Where is the coverage for regular strength forwards? Seems like something we could use some help with?!?

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#61 Ender the Dragon
September 18 2009, 01:34PM
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@ I'm a Scientist!:

Just like many football coaching scenarios, the head coach (Quinn) runs the offense himself and farms out everything else, with the next guy in line (Renney) getting the defense.

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#62 ronaldo
September 18 2009, 01:35PM
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@ I'm a Scientist!: Maybe they have their own SuperComputer taking care of that.

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#63 NBOilerFan
September 18 2009, 01:38PM
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jeff wrote:

For the streamers, does NHL.com have something for games?

Yes, you can stream the preseason game through NHL.com for free and without the blackouts. See the "video" link on the menu bar.

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#64 jake
September 18 2009, 01:43PM
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1. warning - don't ever go into Bulk Barn on an empty stomach if you have even the slightest sweet tooth...

2. Khabibulin - love the west edmonton wall alias, however, a big part of me finds it silly for a 36 year old man to put bulin wall on his goalie mask, the brick layout is great but the words...hmmm....just me i guess

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#65 Tommy
September 18 2009, 01:43PM
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I said in the last game day thread that about a minute into the game I was hating on the bulk barn logo. It really pisses me off it is yellow, on a white background fine, but yellow ice doesn't have the classiest impression does it?

@Gregor - could it be a pre-season thing and they get a new sponsor logo for the regular season? I am going to rage seeing that ugly yellow logo at every home game.

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#66 Ducey
September 18 2009, 01:43PM
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Porter wrote:

@ DK0: YES… fantastic news…. Thanks…. * throws away rosary and bible, and puts on OILERS jersey!!! *

If you want the Oil to make the playoffs, you might want to hang onto those...

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#67 The Menace
September 18 2009, 01:48PM
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@ Tommy: Don't they usually have the Oilers logo at centre ice during the regular season? I hope this is just a preseason thing. bulk pinatas aside.

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#68 I'm a Scientist!
September 18 2009, 01:51PM
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@ ronaldo: Ummm, everyone knows that I own the world's only SuperComputer. Quinn may have a lesser computer, like the MediocreComputer...which comes complete with Windows Vista...

*lovingly embraces THE SuperComputer screen*

Siiiigh...

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#69 Tommy
September 18 2009, 01:59PM
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@ The Menace:

It isn't right at centre ice - it is one of the four logos in the neutral zone. I think Telus has 2 and then there is a different non-bulk barn one.

And yes it is weird that they only have one store in Alberta and it is in Lethbridge...

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#70 Jimmy
September 18 2009, 02:01PM
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It's a big chain, though, and the fact that they're streaming the games online means more exposure than just Alberta. There's one or two here in Winnipeg.

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#71 OpenAir
September 18 2009, 02:04PM
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Bulk Barn? I believe I saw that store in Miriamichi, New Brunswick when I was there this summer. It's the first time I've ever seen it. I wonder why they're advertising in Edmonton?

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#72 ronaldo
September 18 2009, 02:06PM
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I'm a Scientist! wrote:

@ ronaldo: Ummm, everyone knows that I own the world’s only SuperComputer. Quinn may have a lesser computer, like the MediocreComputer…which comes complete with Windows Vista… *lovingly embraces THE SuperComputer screen* Siiiigh…

If that is the case, perhaps your SuperComputer is...you may want to sit down...seeing other people.

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#73 Oilersordeath
September 18 2009, 02:06PM
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Steve from Yellowstone wrote:

Pooolots time has pretty much run out here – lets hope they dont hold on to him as long as Schremp. Send both of them and all Schremps mentally blind followers down to the AHL asap. 30 bux will get us one of these U-Haul trailers to put them all in and lets all pray for the lack of ventilation. I don’t know who has been in charge of music at Rexall for the last.. forever. Fired. Fired! Please someone fire them. How do they have a job? The music selection can get exactly zero people who don’t have dyed blonde hair that is still the same as it was in 1982 excited. It’s horrible. Is there a worse venue for musical atmosphere than Edmonton? It’s the worst. More Black Box! More Walking on Sunshine! My God! Play some metal… play anything that keeps the crowd wired. Stop trying NOT to offend the aging season ticket holders please. Ffrrrrrunkus!

Amen brutha!! Have you heard what they play in Pittsburg?? Nothing but Slayer, Metallica, Pantera, Megadeth! Now thats what I'm talking about!!

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#74 bingofuel
September 18 2009, 02:07PM
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I'm a Scientist! wrote:

*lovingly embraces THE SuperComputer screen* Siiiigh…

Where the hell did you get this supercomputer? I administer this site on an Apple IIe and am looking to upgrade...

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#75 Bruthah
September 18 2009, 02:08PM
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bingofuel wrote:

Where the hell did you get this supercomputer? I administer this site on an Apple IIe and am looking to upgrade…

Got some Karataka rocking on that thing?

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#76 bingofuel
September 18 2009, 02:11PM
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@ Bruthah:

No, that would take up far too much memory/involve switching "diskettes" too much.

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#77 jeanshorts
September 18 2009, 02:23PM
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Oilersordeath wrote:

Amen brutha!! Have you heard what they play in Pittsburg?? Nothing but Slayer, Metallica, Pantera, Megadeth! Now thats what I’m talking about!!

Seriously, it makes me hate Pittsburgh that much more. While they have "Raining Blood" cranked to get the crowd pumped up before a power play, Oiler fans get "Crazy Frog" or the Black Eyed Peas or some garbage. I understand they need to appeal to the family friendly sector, but the 12,000 drunk guys there want to hear a little "Hanger 18" from time to time! LET'S TEAR THIS PLACE APART!

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#78 BUCK75
September 18 2009, 02:23PM
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HAHAHA - I remember that kook dancing in the blues. I wouldn't have recognized the guy if I ever ran into him, but who would introduce himself as that guy. WOW.

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#79 Jason Gregor
September 18 2009, 02:28PM
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jeff wrote:

So early in the morning? 11:34 the morning is over.

I started writing at 9...which part didn't you understand...sober up..

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#80 Jason Gregor
September 18 2009, 02:30PM
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jeff wrote:

Do NHL teams have to submit their gameday rosters at a certain time in the preseason? I remember last year that there were quite a few games that I didn’t know the roster until the puck was dropped.

Like regular season games, you don't have to submit a roster until after the pregame skate. The away team always has to submit it first. So, no teams aren't required in preseason to put out the list, although some do.

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#81 Jason Gregor
September 18 2009, 02:38PM
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I'm a Scientist! wrote:

Where is the coverage for regular strength forwards? Seems like something we could use some help with?!?

That is called practice and preparation, and what the head coach looks after. I don't know any team that has "five-on-five" coach. What do you think the head coach does? That is what he coaches.

Tommy wrote:

@Gregor – could it be a pre-season thing and they get a new sponsor logo for the regular season? I am going to rage seeing that ugly yellow logo at every home game.

Only a guess, but I'd bet they want to be there during the regular season games when the building is full, not just the preseason.

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#82 Ender the Dragon
September 18 2009, 02:41PM
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bingofuel wrote:

Where the hell did you get this supercomputer? I administer this site on an Apple IIe and am looking to upgrade…

Mmmmmmm . . . IIe . . . that's the new one with the white dots, right? I'm still stuck with the green-dotted IIc, but I bet I can still kick your butt at Lode Runner, your fancy-schmancy machine notwithstanding.

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#83 bingofuel
September 18 2009, 02:45PM
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@ Ender the Dragon:

Oh no, dude. I'm rocking the green monochrome screen as well.

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#84 Oilersordeath
September 18 2009, 02:45PM
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#77 jeanshorts September 18 2009, 2:23 pm.

Oilersordeath wrote:

Amen brutha!! Have you heard what they play in Pittsburg?? Nothing but Slayer, Metallica, Pantera, Megadeth! Now thats what I’m talking about!!

Seriously, it makes me hate Pittsburgh that much more. While they have “Raining Blood” cranked to get the crowd pumped up before a power play, Oiler fans get “Crazy Frog” or the Black Eyed Peas or some garbage. I understand they need to appeal to the family friendly sector, but the 12,000 drunk guys there want to hear a little “Hanger 18″ from time to time! LET’S TEAR THIS PLACE APART!

Yeeeeeeeeees!!! Hell even as a player, if I heard some "Raining blood" right before I was to get back on the ice I would be so pumped, I would probably steamroll someone through the boards!!

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#85 jeff
September 18 2009, 02:46PM
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@ Jason Gregor: So I guess it might just be that Quinn doesn't really care if the other team knows his roster, where as MacT kept things like area 51.

As for sobering up. I'll post after the game, then you can tell me to sober up. Also weren't you on the radio around 9ish this morning?

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#86 I'm a Scientist!
September 18 2009, 02:53PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

That is called practice and preparation, and what the head coach looks after. I don’t know any team that has “five-on-five” coach. What do you think the head coach does? That is what he coaches.

Well, your article says he was overseeing the other jobs... no mention of the 5 on 5 forwards. Sorry for my ignorance, but to me, if you have somebody running the regular strength defence (Renney), perhaps there should also be somebody responsible for the regular strength offence. This would allow the head coach to oversee everything, and make sure all the pieces mesh together...like a boss with all his minions.

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#87 I'm a Scientist!
September 18 2009, 02:57PM
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ronaldo wrote:

If that is the case, perhaps your SuperComputer is…you may want to sit down…seeing other people.

GASP!

I should have seen this coming...*weep*

I guess the proof will come if we make it to the playoffs... only then will i know that my SuperComputer is providing bits and bytes for somebody else!!!

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#88 Ender the Dragon
September 18 2009, 03:00PM
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@ bingofuel:

Your 'Crude Talk' poll needs a fourth option:

He's good, but barring injury the Oilers have better options.

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#89 Oilersordeath
September 18 2009, 03:02PM
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jeanshorts wrote:

Oilersordeath wrote: Amen brutha!! Have you heard what they play in Pittsburg?? Nothing but Slayer, Metallica, Pantera, Megadeth! Now thats what I’m talking about!! Seriously, it makes me hate Pittsburgh that much more. While they have “Raining Blood” cranked to get the crowd pumped up before a power play, Oiler fans get “Crazy Frog” or the Black Eyed Peas or some garbage. I understand they need to appeal to the family friendly sector, but the 12,000 drunk guys there want to hear a little “Hanger 18″ from time to time! LET’S TEAR THIS PLACE APART!

Thats why they are winning! Oh yeah also because of guys like Malkin, Crosby and Co.

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#90 I'm a Scientist!
September 18 2009, 03:03PM
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bingofuel wrote:

Where the hell did you get this supercomputer? I administer this site on an Apple IIe and am looking to upgrade…

I built her using the following parts:

3 Coswell Cogs 1 roll of duct tape 17 well chewed pieces of hubba bubba 1 abacus from Roloson's high school days (I built this last year... the 2009/10 version would take a Bulin abacus... much harder to find though) 103 strands of genuine Britney Spears hair (the original, not the weave) 1 aquarium 1 IT guy 3 packages of rope licorice 18 RX1 beers

Don't try and copy it though...the mixture can prove deadly if you don't know what you are doing.

*Takes a bite from the strawberry flavored network cable*

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#91 I'm a Scientist!
September 18 2009, 03:08PM
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Ender the Dragon wrote:

He’s good, but barring injury the Oilers have better options.

vote.

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#92 jeanshorts
September 18 2009, 03:10PM
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I'm a Scientist! wrote:

18 RX1 beers

I can't believe you spent well over 20,000 dollars on this machine! Well, actually it looks like it was worth it, so carry on.

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#93 rubbertrout
September 18 2009, 03:12PM
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@ Jason Gregor:

I can't get the rants to work on the site. It gives me 40 seconds of intro but nothing else.

I think Brownlee should do his rants after he gets riled up reading the comments here. That hatred flowing through his veins would make for excellent radio.

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#94 bingofuel
September 18 2009, 03:14PM
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@ Ender the Dragon:

Point taken. :)

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#95 Librarian Mike
September 18 2009, 03:19PM
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Oilersordeath wrote:

if I heard some “Raining blood” right before I was to get back on the ice I would be so pumped, I would probably steamroll someone through the boards!!

For sure. I mentioned in another thread once that if the Oilers played the first 30 seconds of Angel of Death just before a powerplay, I swear the other team would pee out of fear.

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#96 viss.99
September 18 2009, 03:28PM
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I think Bulk Barn is a large food retailer in Canada

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#97 The Towel Boy
September 18 2009, 03:28PM
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Ender the Dragon wrote:

Mmmmmmm . . . IIe . . . that’s the new one with the white dots, right? I’m still stuck with the green-dotted IIc, but I bet I can still kick your butt at Lode Runner, your fancy-schmancy machine notwithstanding.

AWWW!!! Lode Runner was one of my ultimate faves growing up. Also "Conan" and "Wings of Fury"....spent DAYS playing those classics.

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#98 DK0
September 18 2009, 03:35PM
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@ Librarian Mike: The only good song we have to amp them up makes me laugh my ass off cause no one knows what its called :P hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0eolloVe84&feature=fvw Sum 41 - Grab the devil by the horns and f#@$ him in the a$$ you'll know it as soon as you hear it, every offensive zone powerplay late in the game.

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#99 Jimmy
September 18 2009, 03:36PM
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I'm kind of disappointed that they skate out to that crappy generic Offspring tune. Back in the days of the Jets we at least had some Van Halen to rock out to.

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#100 DK0
September 18 2009, 03:36PM
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@ DK0: Offensive zone powerplay *faceoff* mumble mumble edit feature mumble

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